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== Deleted page - Frank Golding (author) ==
Hi there,
You recently deleted a draft biography page I created for an author, Frank Golding, on the grounds that the sources were largely from the subject himself. I tried to include a substantial amount of source from reputable newspapers and archives, but I would be happy to return to the draft and add more if it could be restored. Finally, if there is any wikipedia guidance on striking a balance for sources for memoirists that would be helpful - the details of the subject's biography are of course sometimes unavoidably best drawn from his own published work because memoir is about the self. Many thanks for your consideration. ] (]) 02:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)DeEsCeHa‬
:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 09:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Post from new user moved to bottom of page ==


hello,
== Another Claesson sock ==
Can you help put me through the ways to write on here <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 09:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Guidance posted to user talk page ] - ] 09:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


== Burnt fynbos ==
Found another likely Samuel Claesson sockpuppet at ]. ] (]) 18:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)


Hi Jimfbleak. Hope 2025 has ricked off just right for you. I came across a reference to ''burnt'' in the Portuguese translation of the article, and I see that you introduced that element . Could you please clarify, so I can adjust the Portuguese to read better? Thanks. ] (]) 13:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:], thanks. Would you mind clarifying why this is a SC sock? I see a reference to Claesson added and removed, but I guess there's more to it than that ] - ] 11:06, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:], that's going back a bit! Bustards are birds of open country, and the bushy nature of ] would be unsuitable, but burning effectively creates open habitat, at least until the shrubs regrow. ] - ] 14:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks, that makes sense. As a child I used to see them running at dusk in the ] in ] in southern Angola, which – like you said – is open country. ] (]) 14:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)


==Notice of noticeboard discussion== == Deletion of ] ==
] There is currently a discussion at ] regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.<!--Template:Discussion notice--><!--Template:AN-notice-->] ] 22:23, 15 December 2024 (UTC)


This page wasn't a ]. For one thing, the user had made more than 700 edits to mainspace and rather than the "few or no edits outside of user pages" required for U5. For another, what the user had put on the page was just "Hi!", which is not a remotely problematic user page. The rest of what was on that page was a comment that another user left, which could just be reverted. ] (]) 11:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
:That thread has gotten very long very quickly, so I just wanted to pop by here and say, first, thank you for your explanation and apology. And second, I did assume from the start that this was simply an error and not abuse of the block button. We've all been there. I've blocked the wrong person entirely once or twice.
:My concern was much more to do with the two other admins who had to have seen the error but weren't doing anything about it and/or making the user wait as long as it took for you to be online to explain it, which I felt was completely unnecessary as, again, it was obviously an error. ] ] 19:30, 16 December 2024 (UTC)


::] thanks, that's pretty much as I read it, although, being Misplaced Pages, all sorts of distractions (''it's not spam'' in a sandbox and such soon led to text inflation ] - ] 06:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC) :] thanks. Obviously you are technically right, so I've restored. I'll leave any reversion to you, since the history doesn't suggest to me which version should be restored if it's not left as is. ] - ] 13:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
::Looking at the user's talk page, it seems that you also unintentionally deleted ] as "making way for a move" even though that page was not a redirect and the page to be moved, ], ''was'' a redirect. As ] notes, "{{tq|An administrator who deletes a page that is blocking a move should ensure that the move is completed after deleting it.}}" The person who nominated it really wanted to delete ] and move the article there (though that would be move warring despite a ]). ]&nbsp;] 13:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)


::::] I'm happy for you to make any remedy you feel is appropriate. It's clearly not appropriate in article space. I suppose it's just about acceptable as a poor draft, but whether its creator will leave it there is, as you suggest, problematic ] - ] 16:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
== Sock notice ==


== ] ==
Dear Jim,


Hello, would you be able to review it at FAC? ] (]) 02:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
I just got a notification about being a sock. I am not a sock though, and I don't know why anyone would think that. What should I do?


:Done at ] ] - ] 11:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
Sincerely,


== Blocked user using his talk page to advertise ==
Sisvan Hart ] (]) 01:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC)


See . Thanks. ] (]) 10:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:],if you look above, I've asked {{u|AllTheUsernamesAreInUse}} for clarification ] - ] 06:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{tps}} Jim hasn't edited for some hours, so I removed talkpage access. Thank you, {{u|BilCat}}. ] &#124; ] 10:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC).
::Sdhart has the same pattern of editing as almost all other accounts at ] (removing "invalid hyperlinks", adding sources) and also recreated the page ] for the 5th time with identical material, hoping we wouldn't notice by slightly changing the title. ] (]) 03:45, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|BilCat|Bishonen}} thanks to both ] - ] 10:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
:::And thanks to you both too. ] (]) 10:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


:::] thanks, looks pretty clear-cut, will block ] - ] 06:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)


== COI workaround? == == WERYPEAS ==


] (]) 11:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC) I want to contact with you somehow, cause I'm new to Misplaced Pages, so if I am able to, I would appreciate the opportunity.. You deleted the page, and as I think the situation which happen right now is misunderstanding.
Hi Jim,
:*Replied on user talk page. Unreferenced autobiography in Russian for non-notable musician ] - ] 11:49, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Got your message, thanks. First article attempt got deleted. Probably quite common. Still sad.

As you rightly mentioned, conflict of interest (COI) is the problem. Is there a workaround? Do I get someone else to write about me or are there more ways to just about keep article neutral enough for publication? Can I trouble you to have a look whether if it's worth my time requesting for a retrieval of the deleted content for another try? Thanks.

Cen2mftn
] (]) 01:13, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:Replied on user talk page ] - ] 09:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

==Io Saturnalia!==

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:], many thanks <small> and it's my birthday</small>. Best wishes to you and yours and the horses, a bit late for the bishops though. ] - ] 16:04, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

== NOTHERE user ==

This user edited the article about himself and added a family ] - . ] (]) 18:42, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

:], thanks. I notice that the user concerned has not been warned or even welcomed, so I'm reluctant to block at this stage. I'll welcome and warn, then there are no excuses if he continues ] - ] 08:25, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

::], I've nominated the image for deletion at Commons ] - ] 08:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks jim] (]) 18:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

== Request for Review of Deletion of "Derek Warburton" Misplaced Pages Page ==

Dear Jimfbleak,

I hope you're doing well. I noticed that the Misplaced Pages page for Derek Warburton was recently deleted under the reason "G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion."
I believe the deletion may have been made in error, as I have reviewed the content of the article and would like to provide clarification regarding its notability. Derek Warburton has been covered extensively in independent, reliable sources such as:

* '''Forbes''': An interview discussing branding in the media and entertainment sectors. ()
* '''Elle Canada''': Featured for promoting international emerging designers. ()
* '''Flaunt Magazine''': Covered for launching a makeup line in collaboration with FACE Stockholm. ()
* '''Glamour Magazine''': Featured for his philanthropic work encouraging self-love. ()
* '''Mr. Warburton Magazine''': As the founder and editor-in-chief, showcasing art, fashion, and celebrity. ()

Furthermore, we understand the importance of adhering to Misplaced Pages's guidelines for neutrality and verifiability, and we are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards.

I would be grateful if you could review the article again, considering these improvements and the sources supporting his notability. If the article can be restored, I will continue to monitor and improve it to meet Misplaced Pages's guidelines.
Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,
Jenn Salmorin ] (]) 04:24, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:], you claim to know the content of a deleted article that you cannot see, and you say '''''we''' are currently in the process of editing the article to ensure it aligns with these standards''. You have an obvious ], please read ] (sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the person or an associated organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the person claims or interviewing them), the ], ] (articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic, with verifiable facts, not opinions or reviews) and ]. I note that your supposed refs include an interview with him and his own magazine, how are these independent third-party sources as we require here? If any new version appears that is non-compliant with our rules, I'll delete it and consider blocking the creator. ] - ] 06:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::@]Thank you for your response, and I appreciate your dedication to maintaining Misplaced Pages’s high standards.
::I’d like to clarify a few points regarding my involvement:
::My Role: I am not the creator or editor of the deleted article. I represent Derek Warburton in a professional capacity and was made aware of the deletion by others. My intention in reaching out is to understand the concerns that led to the deletion and explore how the content might be improved or reinstated in line with Misplaced Pages’s guidelines.
::Conflict of Interest: I fully acknowledge and respect Misplaced Pages’s Conflict of Interest (COI) policy. As Derek Warburton’s representative, my intention is not to edit or recreate the article myself but to ensure that accurate, verifiable, and neutral information is available to support its potential inclusion.
::Sources and Compliance: I understand the need for independent, reliable third-party sources and neutrality. Derek Warburton has been covered by publications such as Forbes, Elle Canada, and Flaunt Magazine, which I believe meet these standards. If necessary, we are happy to provide a full list of these sources for your review.
::'''My main objective is to ensure that any future article on Derek Warburton is fully compliant with Misplaced Pages’s policies. Could you advise on the best way to move forward? '''
::I understand the importance of relying on independent, reliable third-party sources. Going forward, I will ensure that the team references only notable publications excluding interviews, press releases, or any sources affiliated with Derek Warburton or his organizations.
::The primary goal is to ensure that any future article fully meets Misplaced Pages’s standards for neutrality and verifiability. I would greatly appreciate your guidance on how to proceed constructively. Would preparing a draft and submitting it through the Articles for Creation (AfC) process for community review be the appropriate next step? If there are other considerations or steps we should follow, I am happy to relay this to the team and ensure they are addressed.
::I sincerely apologize if my initial outreach caused any misunderstanding about my intentions. I fully respect Misplaced Pages’s guidelines and your authority in this matter. My goal is to address the issue constructively and ensure compliance moving forward.
::Thank you again for your time and insights. I look forward to your advice on how best to resolve this matter.
::Best regards, ] (]) 07:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

:::] I'll post further guidance on your talk shortly ] - ] 08:58, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

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Deleted page - Frank Golding (author)

Hi there, You recently deleted a draft biography page I created for an author, Frank Golding, on the grounds that the sources were largely from the subject himself. I tried to include a substantial amount of source from reputable newspapers and archives, but I would be happy to return to the draft and add more if it could be restored. Finally, if there is any wikipedia guidance on striking a balance for sources for memoirists that would be helpful - the details of the subject's biography are of course sometimes unavoidably best drawn from his own published work because memoir is about the self. Many thanks for your consideration. DeEsCeHa (talk) 02:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)DeEsCeHa‬

Replied on user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Post from new user moved to bottom of page

hello, Can you help put me through the ways to write on here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss Dike (talk • contribs) 09:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Guidance posted to user talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 09:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Burnt fynbos

Hi Jimfbleak. Hope 2025 has ricked off just right for you. I came across a reference to burnt in the Portuguese translation of the article, and I see that you introduced that element here. Could you please clarify, so I can adjust the Portuguese to read better? Thanks. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 13:13, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia, that's going back a bit! Bustards are birds of open country, and the bushy nature of fynbos would be unsuitable, but burning effectively creates open habitat, at least until the shrubs regrow. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that makes sense. As a child I used to see them running at dusk in the Iona National Park in Namibe Province in southern Angola, which – like you said – is open country. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 14:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of User:SdHb

This page wasn't a WP:U5. For one thing, the user had made more than 700 edits to mainspace and rather than the "few or no edits outside of user pages" required for U5. For another, what the user had put on the page was just "Hi!", which is not a remotely problematic user page. The rest of what was on that page was a comment that another user left, which could just be reverted. SilverLocust (talk) 11:09, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

SilverLocust thanks. Obviously you are technically right, so I've restored. I'll leave any reversion to you, since the history doesn't suggest to me which version should be restored if it's not left as is. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:20, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
Looking at the user's talk page, it seems that you also unintentionally deleted Aminullah Khan as "making way for a move" even though that page was not a redirect and the page to be moved, Draft:Aminullah Khan, was a redirect. As WP:G6 notes, "An administrator who deletes a page that is blocking a move should ensure that the move is completed after deleting it." The person who nominated it really wanted to delete Draft:Aminullah Khan and move the article there (though that would be move warring despite a WP:DRAFTOBJECT). SilverLocust 💬 13:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
SilverLocust I'm happy for you to make any remedy you feel is appropriate. It's clearly not appropriate in article space. I suppose it's just about acceptable as a poor draft, but whether its creator will leave it there is, as you suggest, problematic Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Dusky dolphin

Hello, would you be able to review it at FAC? LittleJerry (talk) 02:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Done at Misplaced Pages:Featured_article_candidates/Dusky_dolphin/archive1 Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Blocked user using his talk page to advertise

See User talk:Willamthomus. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 10:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Jim hasn't edited for some hours, so I removed talkpage access. Thank you, BilCat. Bishonen | tålk 10:46, 13 January 2025 (UTC).
@BilCat and Bishonen: thanks to both Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:56, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
And thanks to you both too. BilCat (talk) 10:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC)


WERYPEAS

WERYPEAS (talk) 11:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC) I want to contact with you somehow, cause I'm new to Misplaced Pages, so if I am able to, I would appreciate the opportunity.. You deleted the page, and as I think the situation which happen right now is misunderstanding.