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== Dubai Scripter == ==Piotr Kamler page==
Hi, Yamla. I just created a stub for Polish film director ]. The page name came with a warning that another page under that name had been removed by you in 2015 because it was created by a banned user in 2015. I couldn't find a reference to it in your logs so I proceeded, but thought it best to check and see if there is any issue I am missing. I believe my stub is all original content. ] ]


== About reference ==
I don't think it matters much if they're a paid editor. They've got just over 50 edits and pretty much all of them are either direct personal attacks, in contravention of arbitration sanctions regarding the Israel / Palestine conflict or both. I don't think they'll be around for long. ] (]) 13:38, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
:Also a non-trivial number of deleted edits of a clearly promotional nature. --] (]) 13:50, 4 December 2024 (UTC)


I want to clear some doubts i agree i made some disruptive edits on 1991 killing and Har krisha which was reverted and i didn't edit that page again but can you explain me how i made disruptive edit on Punjab king's As I said earlier, I only changed the words and there was no source mentioned even before my edit on ]. ] (]) 14:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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:You added new content. You are required to cite that content. That the previous, different information was unsourced is not an excuse. --] (]) 15:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::okay i will keep that in mind Just last question like page When I edit the list of battle or list of Sikhs page, Do I have to mention reference?, Because this is type of page are just list where people and Battles are mentioned, which already have Misplaced Pages pages. ] (]) 15:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::and i am not making any excuse it's just i feel block warning was not necessary in Punjab king case ] (]) 15:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Misplaced Pages policy '''requires''' citations "for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations, anywhere in article space." (]) --] (]) 15:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Okay i think it's help me to improve thank you ] (]) 15:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 ==
Would you like to tackle this one? You might want to check on the assertions of off Wiki co-ordianation by others, ] (]) 15:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:I'll grab it and take a look later this afternoon. --] (]) 18:37, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::The CU evidence is strikingly clear. Let's see how she responds. I tried hard not to make anything a trick question. --] (]) 22:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


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Sorry to bother you with this, but wanted to lyk @] has been hounding me (in addition to leaving transphobic forumy comments and pledging to edit a page in a ] way). I left him a message on his talk page pinging you, which he characteristically blanked, so I'm letting you know here with a link to the pre-blanked copy of the page and discussion there. I'd report at ANI or something, but given the IPs/sockpuppeting considerations which you're already aware of, I thought this made more sense. There's been years of homophobic/transphobic/downright weird problematic editing by this guy, think it's a straightforward ].
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Hello, Yamla,


] '''Guideline and policy news'''
After the new editor attempted to recall me, I looked at the date they mentioned (Oct. 8, 2023) and I did soft redirects from 3 alternative user pages for ] after that user page was deleted. That is what we do when editors delete their User page and so a User page from Meta shows up in its place. But it doesn't look like this editor has been socking recently and I don't know why they would hold this grudge for other a year when my actions had nothing to do with them being blocked. Thanks for dealing with this. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 23:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ].
:I'm very, very sure they are a sock of ''someone''. I suspect some sort of LTA, though, rather than Alpoin117. I'd be surprised if Alpoin117 had kept up to date enough to know about the admin recall process. --] (]) 00:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
::Well, then I'm mystified at why I was targeted. But every time I try to understand sock behavior when I participate in a SPI case, I am told that I'm wasting my time and to just shrug my shoulders and move on. <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 04:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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:::The ways of the trolls are mysterious and pointless. --] (]) 10:55, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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] '''Arbitration'''
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.

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* A ] is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the ]. ]


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== IP block exemption ==

I am not able to contribute to English Misplaced Pages because my IP address is used in an open proxy (sometimes I use mobile data, and it still shows the same that my IP is blocked for open proxy). I have been using English Misplaced Pages for more than 6 months and have made 7000+ edits and want to contribute more and more, but because of this problem, I am unable to do so. (I also mailed to Wikimedia stewards, and in reply they said that, to contact a checkuser directly ) In these circumstances, it will be very helpful for me if you grant me the IP address block exemption access and allow me to contribute to the English or global Misplaced Pages. Thank you. <span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:blue; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">] <span style="color:#FC0;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span>]</span> 20:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:Please clarify. That you are able to edit this page and that you have made 7000+ edits means that you are able to edit without ]. To be clear, I'm not accusing you or saying you are ineligible for IPBE, only that I'm unsure why you think you need it. Please clarify. --] (]) 22:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::@], I am able to edit this page because I used mobile data from another operator and was able to edit it, but in my home, where I use Wi-Fi, I am facing the issue that my IP is blocked for open proxy. I hope that you understand my situation. Mobile data is expensive in my country, so using it frequently is not easy for me. Thanks. <span style="font-family:Segoe print; color:blue; text-shadow:gray 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em;">] <span style="color:#FC0;letter-spacing:-2px">❯❯❯</span>]</span> 00:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

== I'm confused as to why you deleted my topic ==

Hi!

I've added a topic recently on the ] article's talk page. You then .

I'm not an experienced contributor, so if I've broken some kind of Misplaced Pages rule, I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me about it. As ], it came out as a bit aggressive to see my comment be deleted with no real explanation.

Conversely, if you disagree with the comment itself, the place to discuss that is the talk page, and deletion doesn't seem like an adequate reaction.

Have a great day,

Max ] (]) 01:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
:Please see what I left at the time on your talk page. You aren't permitted to edit articles or talk pages about the Arab-Israeli conflict as you are not an extended-confirmed user, except with a few small exceptions. That is, you haven't made enough edits yet to contribute in that controversial subject area. Again, please thoroughly read the material I left at the time on your talk page. --] (]) 02:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thank you for your answer.
::I've already read what you left on my talk page, and it makes no mention of talk pages at all. I also had a look at the page for ] which was linked, and nowhere could I find any mention of a ban on editing talk pages, let alone a systematic ban for all users that don't have enough privileges. In general, the snippet seems to mostly ask for good behaviour, which I believe I had. Maybe you posted the wrong snippet on my page? In any case, if you have a specific rule in mind, I would love to know where to read it in the documentation, I thrive to become a better Wikipedian.
::You also mention that I have restrictions as I'm not an extended-confirmed user, but from what I can see they seem to be automatically enforced, as I can't edit the page. Are you saying that the systematic ban from edititing the page is automatically enforced, but that there's a similar ban for the talk-page that high privilege users have to enforce by hand?
::Please don't see this as resistance to criticism or bad faith, I am truly confused as to what's happening, and from my perspective, looking at the snippet you left on my talk page and the page for ] only makes it seem like nothing in this situation should prevent me from writing in the talk page.
::Hopefully, understanding what I did wrong this time should help me avoid repeating the same mistake in the future ^^
::Have a great day,
::Max ] (]) 06:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Note that I'm not claiming you were editing in bad faith. I agree that you exhibited "good behaviour" and were clearly editing in good faith. You weren't aware of the restrictions, which is why I let you know. Specifically, check out ]. In that subject area, the "Extended confirmed restriction" applies. You are not yet an "extended confirmed" editor, meaning you are not permitted to edit in that topic area. That includes talk pages. Frankly, the standard template I left on your talk page does not do a great job of spelling this out so it's no wonder you were unaware. ] includes some additional information at the top (see "Warning: active arbitration remedies"), but I wouldn't expect people to notice that unless it was specifically brought to their attention. In summary, you need to avoid editing in that subject area until you are "extended-confirmed", which happens automatically on accounts at least 30 days old and which have made at least 500 edits. --] (]) 12:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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Piotr Kamler page

Hi, Yamla. I just created a stub for Polish film director Piotr Kamler. The page name came with a warning that another page under that name had been removed by you in 2015 because it was created by a banned user in 2015. I couldn't find a reference to it in your logs so I proceeded, but thought it best to check and see if there is any issue I am missing. I believe my stub is all original content. Wrightjack talk

About reference

I want to clear some doubts i agree i made some disruptive edits on 1991 killing and Har krisha which was reverted and i didn't edit that page again but can you explain me how i made disruptive edit on Punjab king's As I said earlier, I only changed the words and there was no source mentioned even before my edit on Punjab Kings. Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 14:18, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

You added new content. You are required to cite that content. That the previous, different information was unsourced is not an excuse. --Yamla (talk) 15:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
okay i will keep that in mind Just last question like page When I edit the list of battle or list of Sikhs page, Do I have to mention reference?, Because this is type of page are just list where people and Battles are mentioned, which already have Misplaced Pages pages. Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
and i am not making any excuse it's just i feel block warning was not necessary in Punjab king case Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages policy requires citations "for any material challenged or likely to be challenged, and for all quotations, anywhere in article space." (WP:CITE) --Yamla (talk) 15:33, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay i think it's help me to improve thank you Jaspreetsingh6 (talk) 15:35, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

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IP block exemption

I am not able to contribute to English Misplaced Pages because my IP address is used in an open proxy (sometimes I use mobile data, and it still shows the same that my IP is blocked for open proxy). I have been using English Misplaced Pages for more than 6 months and have made 7000+ edits and want to contribute more and more, but because of this problem, I am unable to do so. (I also mailed to Wikimedia stewards, and in reply they said that, to contact a checkuser directly ) In these circumstances, it will be very helpful for me if you grant me the IP address block exemption access and allow me to contribute to the English or global Misplaced Pages. Thank you. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 20:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Please clarify. That you are able to edit this page and that you have made 7000+ edits means that you are able to edit without WP:IPBE. To be clear, I'm not accusing you or saying you are ineligible for IPBE, only that I'm unsure why you think you need it. Please clarify. --Yamla (talk) 22:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
@Yamla, I am able to edit this page because I used mobile data from another operator and was able to edit it, but in my home, where I use Wi-Fi, I am facing the issue that my IP is blocked for open proxy. I hope that you understand my situation. Mobile data is expensive in my country, so using it frequently is not easy for me. Thanks. Niasoh ❯❯❯ Wanna chat? 00:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm confused as to why you deleted my topic

Hi!

I've added a topic recently on the October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel article's talk page. You then deleted it on January 7th.

I'm not an experienced contributor, so if I've broken some kind of Misplaced Pages rule, I would greatly appreciate it if you could tell me about it. As I was trying to help, it came out as a bit aggressive to see my comment be deleted with no real explanation.

Conversely, if you disagree with the comment itself, the place to discuss that is the talk page, and deletion doesn't seem like an adequate reaction.

Have a great day,

Max Maxime182752 (talk) 01:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Please see what I left at the time on your talk page. You aren't permitted to edit articles or talk pages about the Arab-Israeli conflict as you are not an extended-confirmed user, except with a few small exceptions. That is, you haven't made enough edits yet to contribute in that controversial subject area. Again, please thoroughly read the material I left at the time on your talk page. --Yamla (talk) 02:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your answer.
I've already read what you left on my talk page, and it makes no mention of talk pages at all. I also had a look at the page for contentious topics which was linked, and nowhere could I find any mention of a ban on editing talk pages, let alone a systematic ban for all users that don't have enough privileges. In general, the snippet seems to mostly ask for good behaviour, which I believe I had. Maybe you posted the wrong snippet on my page? In any case, if you have a specific rule in mind, I would love to know where to read it in the documentation, I thrive to become a better Wikipedian.
You also mention that I have restrictions as I'm not an extended-confirmed user, but from what I can see they seem to be automatically enforced, as I can't edit the page. Are you saying that the systematic ban from edititing the page is automatically enforced, but that there's a similar ban for the talk-page that high privilege users have to enforce by hand?
Please don't see this as resistance to criticism or bad faith, I am truly confused as to what's happening, and from my perspective, looking at the snippet you left on my talk page and the page for contentious topics only makes it seem like nothing in this situation should prevent me from writing in the talk page.
Hopefully, understanding what I did wrong this time should help me avoid repeating the same mistake in the future ^^
Have a great day,
Max Maxime182752 (talk) 06:01, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Note that I'm not claiming you were editing in bad faith. I agree that you exhibited "good behaviour" and were clearly editing in good faith. You weren't aware of the restrictions, which is why I let you know. Specifically, check out Misplaced Pages:Contentious topics/Arab–Israeli conflict. In that subject area, the "Extended confirmed restriction" applies. You are not yet an "extended confirmed" editor, meaning you are not permitted to edit in that topic area. That includes talk pages. Frankly, the standard template I left on your talk page does not do a great job of spelling this out so it's no wonder you were unaware. Talk:October 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel includes some additional information at the top (see "Warning: active arbitration remedies"), but I wouldn't expect people to notice that unless it was specifically brought to their attention. In summary, you need to avoid editing in that subject area until you are "extended-confirmed", which happens automatically on accounts at least 30 days old and which have made at least 500 edits. --Yamla (talk) 12:35, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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