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	== Semi-protected edit request on 12 ~~August~~ ~~2022~~ ==		== Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2023 ==

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			When we think of Manmohan Singh, the image of a calm, composed leader often comes to mind. Known for steering India through economic liberalization, Singh was also a figure of many contradictions. Behind his soft-spoken demeanor lay a leader whose tenure was marked by both groundbreaking achievements and significant controversies. As we reflect on his journey, three controversial aspects of his leadership stand out.
	Manmohan Singh was succeeded by Amitav Gosh as Governer of India in 1985. However the profile is for incorrect Amitav Ghosh. https://en.wikipedia.org/Amitav_Ghosh is a writer, whereas https://en.wikipedia.org/Amitav_Ghosh_(banker) is the banker who replaced Manmohan Singh. ] (]) 05:33, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
	:{{done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 14:20, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

	== Second term: 2009–2014 ==

	The summary of the second term(2009 elections) is stated as given below in the second section in this paragraph
	''''Strong showing in Andhra Pradesh, Rajasthan, Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Kerala, West Bengal and Uttar Pradesh helped the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) form the new government under the incumbent Singh...''''

	Here are the actual seats won comparison in terms of 2004 > 2009.

	Andhra Pradesh - 29 > 33

	Rajasthan - 4 > 20

	Maharashtra - 13 > 17

	Tamil Nadu - 10 > 8

	kerala - 3 > 13

	West Bengal - 6 > 6

	Uttar Pradesh - 9 > 21

	It is abundantly clear that the states mentioned under 'strong showings' are incorrect. The phrase should be re-worded to

	'Strong showing in Rajasthan,Kerala and Uttar Pradesh helped the United Progressive Alliance (UPA) form the new government under the incumbent Singh...' ] (]) 08:31, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

	:Since the page is locked for editing, requesting admins to have a look at the above proposed changes ] (]) 09:28, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
	::Hi Admins?anyone watching this space :) ? ] (]) 08:13, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
	:::anyone watching this space ??? ] (]) 16:38, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
	::::feels like knocking on a brick wall, the page is locked and no admins ever look at this..way to go!!! ] (]) 11:55, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

	== Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2022 ==

	{{edit semi-protected\|Manmohan Singh\|answered=yes}}
	He is known as Father of Modern Indian Statistics ] (]) 15:50, 16 October 2022 (UTC)
	:] '''Not done:''' please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 19:37, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

	== Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2023 ==

	{{Edit semi-protected\|Manmohan Singh\|answered=yes}}
	in all the line referring him as Mr. Singh, it should be replaced by Dr. Singh ] (]) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)		in all the line referring him as Mr. Singh, it should be replaced by Dr. Singh ] (]) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
	:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> per ]: the subject is not widely known as "Dr. Singh". ] (]) 17:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)		:] '''Not done:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> per ]: the subject is not widely known as "Dr. Singh". ] (]) 17:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
	::In , he is referred to as 'Dr.'.] (]) 11:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)		::In , he is referred to as 'Dr.'.] (]) 11:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
	:::{{notdone}} We do not use honorifics per ] ] unless it is part of the article name/]. If the article name contained "Dr." as a prefix then we had to use it. Quotes in the article that are taken verbatim are exceptions. - ] (]) 13:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)		:::{{notdone}} We do not use honorifics per ] ] unless it is part of the article name/]. If the article name contained "Dr." as a prefix then we had to use it. Quotes in the article that are taken verbatim are exceptions. - ] (]) 13:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
			::::Why do we rely on consensus? I thought we would rely on the individual person himself, as he is dead and this is a memorial for him, in many ways. I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. ] (]) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

			:::::Misplaced Pages is not a one-person blog but an encyclopedia supposed edited by a community of users who agree to set common standards to prevent edit-warring and make articles readable by all and not just singular individuals users with varied and sometimes ridiculous whims. 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) ] (]) 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
	== Mistake in infobox ==
			::::::In case you still don’t understand, read ]. ] (]) 08:41, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

	The infobox lists Mr. Singh's Rajya Sabha tenure as ending on '''3 April, 2024'''. Shouldn't this date be removed until he actually leaves office, considering that he ''can'' still die or resign in a one-month span? ] (]) 02:19, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

	== Edit request, Silent PM label ==

	While this label is perhaps less prevalent in the online news media, I strongly recommend the “Public Image” section include a line or two on his being labelled the “Silent Prime Minister” by opposition parties.


	The term has a strong presence colloquially and in informal online conversation. Singh even mentioned it himself in a speech in 2018 — https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/called-silent-pm-but-i-was-never-afraid-of-media-manmohan-singh/amp_articleshow/67153504.cms ] (]) 09:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

	== Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 ==		== Semi-protected edit request on 26 December 2024 ==
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	He was born in an undefined provinces in India. ] (]) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)		He was born in an undefined provinces in India. ] (]) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
	:{{notdone}} The sources support him being born in Gah (now in Punjab, Pakistan). - ] (]) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)		:{{notdone}} The sources support him being born in Gah (now in Punjab, Pakistan). - ] (]) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

	== Mon mohan singh history of is life skills history of his of joinery ==

	Mon singh history history history life of skiill of his history of his life 🧬 ] (]) 01:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

	== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2024 ==		== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 December 2024 ==
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	== Edit request ==		== Edit request ==
	{{Edit extended-protected\|Manmohan Singh\|answered=no}}		{{Edit extended-protected\|Manmohan Singh\|answered=yes}}
	The word 're-elected' should be changed to 're-appointed' in last line of 1st paragraph, as the ] is appointed by the president. ] (]) 09:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)		The word 're-elected' should be changed to 're-appointed' in last line of 1st paragraph, as the ] is appointed by the president. ] (]) 09:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

			::{{notdone}}: no evidence provided. It shall remain '''re-elected''' until further evidence is provided. ](] • ]) 02:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

			:::It is mentioned in 's article 75(1) on page 34. ] (]) 10:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
			: RS use the word "re-elected" ] (]) 08:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
			::@] An official publication should be treated as more reliable source than opinion of an editor. ] (]) 17:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
			:::Both words are used in RS. See the ] article for example. it can stay as is. ] (]) 11:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Request to update Manmohan Singh's infobox picture ==

			The current file on the infobox (the official portrait) is over 21 years of age. This image, File:Prime_Minister_Dr._Manmohan_Singh_in_March_2014.jpg, shows a more recent image. Should we remove the official portrait and replace it with this one? ](] • ]) 00:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

			:How recent an image is is no longer relevant now that the subject of the article is deceased. Even then, with high office holders like PMs, Presidents, VPs, etc. we use official portraits regardless of how old they are. Look at Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd, etc. Look at Mr. Singh's predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, his official portrait is from 1998 but it captures him during his time in office and is years old. ] (]) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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When we think of Manmohan Singh, the image of a calm, composed leader often comes to mind. Known for steering India through economic liberalization, Singh was also a figure of many contradictions. Behind his soft-spoken demeanor lay a leader whose tenure was marked by both groundbreaking achievements and significant controversies. As we reflect on his journey, three controversial aspects of his leadership stand out.

in all the line referring him as Mr. Singh, it should be replaced by Dr. Singh Pramit.b.dutta (talk) 17:17, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

Not done: per MOS:CREDENTIAL: the subject is not widely known as "Dr. Singh". M.Bitton (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2023 (UTC)

In official communication, he is referred to as 'Dr.'.Riteze (talk) 11:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done We do not use honorifics per WP:NCIN MOS:DOC unless it is part of the article name/WP:COMMONNAME. If the article name contained "Dr." as a prefix then we had to use it. Quotes in the article that are taken verbatim are exceptions. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Why do we rely on consensus? I thought we would rely on the individual person himself, as he is dead and this is a memorial for him, in many ways. I would love to hear the reasoning behind this. SimpleSubCubicGraph (talk) 01:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is not a one-person blog but an encyclopedia supposed edited by a community of users who agree to set common standards to prevent edit-warring and make articles readable by all and not just singular individuals users with varied and sometimes ridiculous whims. 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC) Borgenland (talk) 08:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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2405:201:5804:E891:58EC:E107:6085:DF14 (talk) 16:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

He died

Already done -- Parnaval (talk) 05:37, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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Want to Add Death Date place and Time 103.96.45.111 (talk) 17:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Already done place has been added; precise time would not be required in article -- Parnaval (talk) 05:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

what is the harm in adding the time? Riteze (talk) 11:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Death

He died on 27 december 2024. He suddenly became unconcius and declared died at 9:51 pm in aiims hospital delhi. Rp1178 (talk) 18:33, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

All sources indicate he died on the night of 26 December 2024. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 18:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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He was born in an undefined provinces in India. 49.183.134.174 (talk) 19:07, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done The sources support him being born in Gah (now in Punjab, Pakistan). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:11, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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49.204.11.64 (talk) 02:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC) Please add that Manmohan singh died in AIIMS, New Delhi

Already done -- Parnaval (talk) 05:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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</ref>Former Pr. Dr. Manmohan Singh has passed away, Appealing wikipedia to update the status.<ref> 152.58.72.48 (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Already done -- Parnaval (talk) 05:43, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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The word 're-elected' should be changed to 're-appointed' in last line of 1st paragraph, as the Prime Minister of India is appointed by the president. Riteze (talk) 09:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Not done: no evidence provided. It shall remain re-elected until further evidence is provided. 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 02:25, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

It is mentioned in Constitution of India's article 75(1) on page 34. Riteze (talk) 10:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

RS use the word "re-elected" Rainsage (talk) 08:31, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

@Rainsage An official publication should be treated as more reliable source than opinion of an editor. Riteze (talk) 17:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

Both words are used in RS. See the Prime Minister of India article for example. it can stay as is. Rainsage (talk) 11:25, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Request to update Manmohan Singh's infobox picture

The current file on the infobox (the official portrait) is over 21 years of age. This image, File:Prime_Minister_Dr._Manmohan_Singh_in_March_2014.jpg, shows a more recent image. Should we remove the official portrait and replace it with this one? 🗽Freedoxm🗽(talk • contribs) 00:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

How recent an image is is no longer relevant now that the subject of the article is deceased. Even then, with high office holders like PMs, Presidents, VPs, etc. we use official portraits regardless of how old they are. Look at Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, Kevin Rudd, etc. Look at Mr. Singh's predecessor, Atal Bihari Vajpayee, his official portrait is from 1998 but it captures him during his time in office and is years old. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 20:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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