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== Thanks == == Joaquim Nero ==
I got my shoulder replaced this week and my one-handed typing needs improvement.
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:I had trouble believing it was intentional. Sorry about your shoulder.--] (]) 23:38, 21 December 2024 (UTC)


Hello Bbb23, I have noticed you often resolve things when I post in ] so I thought I would tell you directly here. Please tell me if that is not okay and I won't do it again. I noticed this user ] after a page he created ] was added to ]. It looks like many articles he has created have problems. Could you take a look please? ]] 18:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
== G11 ==
:Pardon my barging in: just noticed the link from ] here, and am happy to point out ], closed a few minutes ago. ] (]) 19:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hi Wikishovel, thank you for responding. Looks like I was right about the account. ]] 20:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)


== Is all caps OK? ==
Out of interest, why was the G11 declined (for The Misguided)?


? ] (]) 20:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Kind regards, ] (]) 01:55, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:(laughing) It's fine.--] (]) 22:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


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:{{tpw}} {{yo| Axad12}} It's not irredeemably " exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten". Some clean up is all it would need. ] (]) 02:00, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::Okay, thank you.
::Can I request clarification on one point, albeit that it was not relevant to the decision here? In my admittedly limited experience of speedy deletion requests it seems that some users are prepared to authorise speedy deletion of material in draftspace and some users are not. Is this just a question of the luck of the draw (in terms of who deals with a request) or is there some underlying policy issue which I'm failing to grasp and which therefore looks like inconsistency due to a misunderstanding on my part?
::Any help on this point would be much appreciated. ] (]) 02:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::{{yo|Axad12 }} I have stricter criteria for G11's that some (most?). Bbb23 is more insightfully incisive/decisive than I. There is a wide range of admin discretion at work, so sometimes it does depend on who sees it first, though I do not generally decline myself. ] (]) 02:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::I will say though that I don't care where the promotional content is. If it meets my criteria, I will delete it, though I only do one iteration. ] (]) 02:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::There is a fair amount of discretion on G11s, but mostly on the gray ones. I don't think this particular one was gray at all; indeed, I thought it was relatively well written.--] (]) 02:17, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Indeed. ] (]) 02:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::], that's a G11 that will most likely be declined by every admin, including me. Please keep that in mind when you put things up for speedy deletion. ] (]) 02:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::To clarify...
:::::I nominated the article under G11 as "Unambiguous advertising or promotion", which it seemed to me was in accordance with the recent result of the declined AfC which described the draft as "reading like an advertisement".
:::::While accepting that the text might have been amended, the fact that the SPA creator had recently been blocked made that prospect rather unlikely.
:::::For the sake of my future understanding, where have I erred here? Is it the fact that the likelihood of clean-up is irrelevant and even if I was correct (and there were no future edits to the draft) it would have been deleted after 6 months anyway with no harm done? ] (]) 02:31, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::It doesn't particularly read like an advertisement either. Even assuming that ]'s comment that "The quotations from reviews are decidedly cherry-picked" is correct (I haven't checked), while that's still a neutrality issue, it's not one that calls for deletion of the draft - it would still be coherent if the Reception section were just removed. —] 03:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I'd still be grateful for clarification on my post above (assuming, for the sake of argument, that a draft ''did'' read like an advertisement). ] (]) 05:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::For anyone trying to follow this thread, the page in question is ], and a block of the creator was . The article may continue to languish at AfC due to its issues but I agree with others that the page is not an obvious G11 candidate. ] (]) 06:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{yo|Axad12 }} Perplexingly, blocking does not always mean the content met ]. I weigh each candidate on its merits. Creator in this instance, "is indef blocked for ] and ] among many other issues," so that's apart from the quality of the draft in question. I infer the creator has a serious ] with more at stake than, "don't delete my babies!' Having ones "babies" deleted is traumatic enough on its own. Hope that helps. ] (]) 09:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Agreed that the block was unrelated to the quality of the article - although the user could as easily have been blocked as a promo only account if he hadn't made a complete fool of himself at ANI.
:::::The reason I mentioned the user being blocked was because that meant that the draft was unlikely to be improved - but as I said above, presumably that is irrelevant if it means that the draft would then just remain unpublished for 6 months and then get deleted. ] (]) 09:49, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::Speaking as an administrator who had a lot of frustrating interactions in the last week with the blocked editor, I too agree that the draft does not qualify for G11 deletion. We should not let the fact that the primary author behaved like a monumental pain in the ass cloud our assessment of the draft. ] (]) 10:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::As I mentioned above, the G11 nomination wasn't due to the pedigree of the creator but was rather to do with the comments left by the AfC reviewer - albeit that I now see that that was not grounds for a G11 nomination in any event.
:::::::Thanks all for clarifying my understanding of the process, very much appreciated. ] (]) 10:42, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


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Hey, Joeypike2021 you blocked but they are using their talk page inappropriately afterwards so may need a talk page revoke. Cheers ] (]) 21:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Thanks ==
Not sure if this would be prefer to have a new SPI page created or not, but I've stumbled across the account '' which (at least to me) appears to be similarly-named to the blocked account ''. Along with that, both have a similar, "I am ______ and joined Misplaced Pages on _______" opening intro, Harold's on the userpage and Jake's on their talk page. It also that Harold attempted editing Untamed1910's talk page, which Jake has previously edited.

I also decided to report it here rather than make an SPI page as I see Jake's block is for sockpuppetry, but from what I'm seeing, it's not to avoid a block on another account (unless I'm missing something). Thanks. ] (]) 10:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


{{Thank}} for banning the disruptive IP address {{userlinks|203.30.15.99}} Appreciate it. (]) &#124; (PS: Have a good day) 20:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:Also looking a bit more into it, there appears to be both a '' and '' account. Also not 100% sure here, but looks a bit similar to ... so maybe it is a possible block evasion case altogether? Unless my mind is playing tricks on me at 5am, lol. ] (]) 10:30, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::If you haven't already, you should look at that tortured conversation I had with Jake on his Talk page. I've blocked Harold as a sock of Jake, but I see no point in blocking the other accounts, even if they're obvious socks, who haven't edited in a while - that would include the two Knowledgeseeker accounts. However, if you're interested in finding more, you could file an SPI and request a CU. It's highly unlikely I'll find them on my own because I don't pay any attention to the articles they edit. Feel free to come here, though, if you see a new one. Thanks! --] (]) 15:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)


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Hi. Can you please check if is a potential sock of . Thanks. ] (]) 08:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
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Joaquim Nero

Hello Bbb23, I have noticed you often resolve things when I post in Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard so I thought I would tell you directly here. Please tell me if that is not okay and I won't do it again. I noticed this user User:Joaquim Nero after a page he created Deebs Magazine was added to Category:Articles with a promotional tone from January 2025. It looks like many articles he has created have problems. Could you take a look please? 🄻🄰 18:41, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Pardon my barging in: just noticed the link from Deebs Magazine here, and am happy to point out Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/3ydepartment, closed a few minutes ago. Wikishovel (talk) 19:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi Wikishovel, thank you for responding. Looks like I was right about the account. 🄻🄰 20:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Is all caps OK?

? Knitsey (talk) 20:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

(laughing) It's fine.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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 Thanks for banning the disruptive IP address 203.30.15.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Appreciate it. (3OpenEyes's talk page. Say hi!) | (PS: Have a good day) 20:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Hi. Can you please check if this user is a potential sock of this indef blocked user. Thanks. DaHuzyBru (talk) 08:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)