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== Season's Greetings == == ] ==
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<s>Deleted PROD - please could you let me have the text of the deleted article ], as I think I have sources to warrant keeping it? Thanks, ] (]) 05:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
<div style="font-size: larger; text-align: center">Hello there! <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> wishes you & yours ]!<br /><br />Whether you celebrate ], ], ], ],<br />] (for the rest of us!) or even the ],<br />here's hoping your holiday time is wonderful and<br />- '''especially''' -<br />
and</s>Happy New Year! ] (]) 05:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
that the New Year will be an improvement on the old.<br />CHEERS!<br />
:Please don't trouble - the same text, such as it is, is on the Punjabi Wiki. ] (]) 18:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)


== Prod on ] ==
12:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)<br /></div>
{{clear}}</div> <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 12:46, 22 December 2024 (UTC)


Hi Explicit -- Liz suggested that I look at recently deleted prods because there was a bulge in numbers and we were worried that they might have received reduced attention over the holidays. I found ], which you deleted and which I think might be notable -- there's a respectable source in the deleted article (''Boston Globe'') and multiple hits in Proquest, many of which look reliable. Do you mind if I undelete it? Cheers, ] <small>(])</small> 21:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
:Also, I wanted to know how to add an edit notice like you have... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 12:58, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
::{{Reply to|Vestrian24Bio}} You can create your edit notice at ]. ]] 14:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC) :{{Reply to|Espresso Addict}} <!-- Begin Template:UND -->] '''Done''' – as a contested ], the article has been restored upon request.<!-- End Template:UND - prod --> ]] 01:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:::Is there a way to create a group edit notice to appear in all my userspace pages... <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 07:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::::{{Reply to|Vestrian24Bio}} This can be done on at ]. Additional information can be found at the ]. ]] 11:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Thanks. <span class="nowrap"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#50B849;">'''''Vestrian24Bio'''''</span> (<small>]</small>)</span> 12:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


== Removing link(s) undefined (XFDcloser) ==
== Appeal of deletion of "List of controversial elections" ==


You're leaving a lot of edits with this summary. Perhaps there's a problem with the XFDcloser tool. ~] (]) 04:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
I would like to appeal the decision to delete the article ], because the article has been on WP for 12 years, with dozens of editors contributing to it, yet it was removed in the midst of a controversial election in the US with only one week of discussion. Also, no opportunity was given to allow content from the article to be moved to other articles prior to deletion. <b>]&nbsp;(]•])</b> 19:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Sparkie82}} There was resounding consensus to delete the article. ] is not a valid argument to keep it. A week of discussion is the standard and is only extended if consensus is unclear, which was not the case here. There was no support to move the content anywhere else. ]] 03:52, 23 December 2024 (UTC) :{{Reply to|Kvng}} This is a ]. Unfortunately, it has gone unaddressed for several years. ]] 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::I was questioning the timing of the discussion, opening an AFD in the midst of a highly contentious election which could taint any consensus and suggested that the discussion/decision occur some time after the election. In any case, how can I access the information in the article which I need for my own purposes? <b>]&nbsp;(]•])</b> 22:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


== Happy Holidays == == File:Rafi malik.jpg ==


Hi Explicit and Happy New Year! What's your take on the licensing of ]? The file has EXIF data, but it says the image was generated in 2014. I can't find the full image anywhere online, but there's a crop from 2016 found ? Do you think this meets ] or should it be tagged with {{tlx|npd}}? -- ] (]) 09:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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:{{Reply to|Marchjuly}} Hi, I don't think this is a case that requires outright deletion as F9. Tagging it for lacking evidence of permission is the better way to go. ]] 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
'''Hello Explicit:''' Enjoy the ''']'''&#32;and ''']''' if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Misplaced Pages. Cheers, ] (]) 15:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for taking a look at this. I've tagged the file with {{tlx|npd}}. -- ] (]) 06:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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<div style="padding-left: 2em; margin-top: 1em; font-size: 88%; font-style: italic">Spread the WikiLove; use {{tls|Season's Greetings}} to send this message</div>{{-}} ] (]) 15:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


== Deletion of Akidearest article ==
== Please undelete Draft:Santikaro ==


Happy new year!
Hi Xplicit and happy holidays to you and all your loved ones!
I saw you deleted the article for YouTuber Akidearest last month and wanted to ask if there is any way to gain access to the article, since I would like to re-write it and reference the old article. I would of course revamp the sources so it doesn't get taken down again. ] (]) 10:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Maehii}} Hi, I can restore it as a draft where you can work on it. Then, you can submit it as an ] submission. Would you happen to have any new sources available now? ]] 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
::Hi, that would be wonderful. Yes, I collected some new sources so the article will align with Misplaced Pages guidelines. Here are some examples:
::https://metropolisjapan.com/beyond-the-view-counter/
::https://www.tokyocreative.jp/en/influencer-47-akidearest
::https://youtube.fandom.com/Akidearest
::https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/h9y57-4dc32/The-Anime-Show-with-Joey--AkiDearest-Podcast (podcast with The Anime Man)
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-y5RjZOLw (collaboration video with Netflix and CDawgVA) ] (]) 08:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{Reply to|Maehii}} The content is now available at ]. ]] 00:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Thanks so much! ] (]) 09:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)


== ] ==
I've left a message on my talk page and on the deletion page to ask for please reinstating / undeleting my draft
Would you be willing to undelete this? It was deleted for having two links but it should have had three (] was missing). I ] the nominator (who is also an admin) if he would be willing to undelete it but he suggested deletion review, which I'm not sure is necessary or not since there was nothing wrong with the delete outcome at the time. ] (]) 17:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:Santikaro
:{{Reply to|WikiOriginal-9}} The general rule of thumb is that navigational templates require five blue links. This would not survive TFD if only one additional link was added. ]] 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Deletion review for ] ==
The only reason I did not get to edit it for six months is that I started teaching and it took all my time. I have been intending to make a minor edit before the deadline but forgot by mistake to set the calendar reminder.
An editor has asked for ] of ]. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.<!-- Template:DRV notice --> ] (]) 05:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== In a case like this... ==
I believe this article can be easily accepted - a number of people on here have given me useful advice on what needs to be done for the article to be easily accepted.


] was a G4 which you originally deleted, and I did again today. I'm inclined to salt something like this, but wonder what a more experienced hand has to say. I'm deleting several dozen at once this afternoon (by the same sock) so while I might make some of my own choices, I'd like your opinion: what's the sweet spot on salting? Twice G4'ed seems slam dunk to me. I've also been experimenting with some short term salting, to discourage multiple attempts for now. ] (]) 23:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
I would greatly appreciate undeleting it, please.
:{{Reply to|BusterD}} When I became an admin, the general practice seemed to be that salting was done when a page was deleted three times. That's what I continue to do, kind of like a "three strikes and you're out" rule. It does differ from person to person, though. I think it's ultimately a personal decision. ]] 00:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::Thanks for the sage advice, such as it is. I noticed the policy suggests shorter term salting (as I have been trying) in some cases. Three strikes makes perfect sense to me. I've been spending some time every morning on the speedy list. (I'm now #35 among current admin deleters; a dubious distinction but surprising to me.) For clarification, technically any EC editor could potentially (and under policy) recreate a salted title, right? It's not a form of full protection. I'm not sure this is fully understood by the trolling community... ] (]) 00:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::{{Reply to|BusterD}} I usually use short-term protection if a page is recreated three times in quick succession, like in a month, as I suspect the person loses interest if they are unable to create a page three to six months down the line. You're correct that EC editors can recreate a page if protection is set that way. ]] 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


== ffdc template bot ==
Happy holidays and happy new year, may you be well, happy and safe,
Hello. I am currently working on Fatily's task, to remove ffdc templates which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD (]). I came across some cases where your input would be appreciated. eg, ] where the template is incomplete: <code><nowiki>{{ffdc|log=2019 May 3|date=September 2019}}</nowiki></code> (no file name), and ] <code><nowiki>{{FFDC|file_name.ext|log=2024 December 28 |date=December 2024}}</nowiki></code> (incorrect file name). Currently, I have programmed the bot to skip such instances (). What should be done? skip it (no action), or to remove these templates? Courtesy ping to {{ping|CX Zoom|Marchjuly}}, as they were involved in the original bot request/BRFA. —usernamekiran ] 04:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
-Peaceful-D ] (]) 15:27, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:I just removed the ffdc templates and associated captions from ]. I don't think it was a case of the template being incomplete or otherwise used incorrectly; it's just that everybody forgot to remove it and its associated caption from the article after the FFD related to the relevant file was closed as "Delete". It seems like something a bot should be able to do, but removing the templates is actually something mentioned in point 7.2 of ] as post of the post close cleanup; there are, however, so few admins working at FFD these days that it's probably something that slips through the cracks every now and then. FWIW, I try to go back and check for these templates when I notice the file they're related to has been deleted and will remove them myself, but I probably miss some too. I'm not sure whether there are enough of these cases to warrant tasking the job to a bot, but I'm also not sure how to otherwise find them, except perhpaps digging through the results of a "What links here" search for the template. The problem with the template used in ] seems to be a combination of two user errors, and I've fixed that as well: the person who nominated the file for discussion just forgot to add the template, and the person who subsequently added the template just forgot to add the file's name. I don't know whether those types of errors can be resolved entirely by a bot, and probably some type of human review is also necessary for such cases. However, even when there's no file name provided, the malformed template should still link to the correct date of the FFD discussion; so, its use still sort of works as intended. -- ] (]) 09:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:{{ping|usernamekiran}} Why did KiranBOt remove ]? The relevant FFD discussion is still ongoing. Is a syntax issue? A false positive? Are you going around checking on KiranBot's removal of these template to make sure it hasn't prematurely removed any of them? -- ] (]) 09:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
::{{re|Marchjuly}} I had checked some of them, by actually going through the deletion page, and rest of the edits only by viewing the diff. I have added some new code/eligibility criteria for removal of the template, so such instances would not happen. But I would check every edit manually for a few runs. For the low-confidence occurrences, similar to examples provided above, would it be a good idea to create a list somewhere? similar to ]? It is transcluded on ] to be handled by humans. —usernamekiran ] 10:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I really don't much about how bots work from a coding standpoint; so, I'm not really a good person to ask about that. Perhaps {{u|JJMC89}} might be a good person to ask since they run various bots for checking on images, and they also have some corresponding userspace pages for "reports" for checking up on their bots. -- ] (]) 01:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::::I can code the bot any way that you'd like. I mean, dont think about technicalities, I want opinion from you guys about what the bot should remove/update/keep as it is. —usernamekiran ] 03:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::My apologies {{u|usernamekiran}} for not responding sooner. I personally don't use bots or scripts when editing, but I think the most important thing for any bot tasked to remove ffdc templates is going to be to minimize mistakes as much as possible. This means the bot is going to somehow need to know when an FFD about a particular file has been closed. The bot is then going to somehow need to figure out which articles the file that was discussed was/is being used and check those articles for ffdc templates. I'm not sure how a bot can do this, particularly when a file ends being deleted, but if it can create a page like {{u|JJMC89}} has done with ], then perhaps a human editor could review the page and check on the bot. According to the "What links here" for ], there are where the template is being transcluded, and I don't know whether that's a little or a lot. Some these pages seem to be articles in which the file in question is being discussed at FFD, but others like ] are archived pages where the relevant file has long been deleted but template wasn't removed. In these other cases, perhaps the template was left for reference purposes (even though it probably should've been removed), but I don't know how a bot can determine that. So, perhaps the bot should only remove ffdc template for files kept per FFD because these might have little value to readers since there is going to be at least a link to the FFD found on the file's talk page. -- ] (]) 06:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::{{re|Marchjuly}} no need to apologise {{p}} I have added function so that bot would know if an FFD about a particular file has been closed, or ongoing (thats what I was referring to by "eligibility criteria" in previous comment). The bot goes through the list of transclusions, ]. Out of 80, only 20 are in article space. That answers your second doubt. I ran the bot a few minutes ago, it removed template from two articles: ], and ] (there were 22 before the run). The bot created ] with fourteen entries (three templates on single page), I guess rest of the discussions are ongoing. Kindly let me know if this is okay. —usernamekiran ] 11:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


== Pictures Deleted? == == Deleted article IPSOS ==


Hi! Could you please userify this at ]? I've been intending to write an article on the book from which this word was sourced. Kinda weird there was an article on the word but not the book, since there are way more sources on the latter than the former. As I am likely to include some portion of the content of the deleted article, I'd like to make sure the edit history is preserved for that content, unless you think it would be better to restore the article and make it a redirect for that purpose... ] (]) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I recently uploaded 2 pictures that you then moved to the delete log, and I’m not sure why. Both of the are from a public website of a public university, UL. Wouldn’t that make them free content? What is needed to allow these to be published? Thanks. ] (]) 15:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Frank042316}} I guess you're referring to ] and ]. At the upload form, you must have indicated a licensing restriction, like noncommercial use or no derivatives, as these were automatically tagged for speedy deletion in accordance with ]. What are the source links for these images? ]] 00:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC) :{{Reply to|Skyerise}} Hi, I've userfied the page as requested. ]] 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::they are from the universities web page, and were used to nnou de the purchase of the 2 pieces of property, so very much in the public domain. Thanks <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:02, 25 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
:::{{Reply to|Frank042316}} Being available on the university's webpage does not mean the files are in the public domain, unless it explicitly states so. Can you provide links to determine the copyright status of these two files? ]] 11:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Sure:
::::https://louisiana.edu/news/ul-lafayette-our-lady-lourdes-finalize-property-acquisition
::::https://louisiana.edu/news/ul-lafayette-our-lady-lourdes-finalize-property-acquisition
::::Thanks again. ] (]) 11:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{Reply to|Frank042316}} There is nothing on the website which indicates these image are freely licensed. The only copyright notice reads, "© 2024 University of Louisiana at Lafayette. All rights reserved." These images can not be used on Misplaced Pages. ]] 06:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


::Thanks muchly! ] (]) 00:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
== Template:Blockquote protection ==


== File:Sankranthiki Vasthunnam Release Date(2).jpg ==
No rush, but I think {{tl|Blockquote}} was at template editor protection, not full protection, before the most recent merge/delete/undelete fun adventure that you appear to have had. It has been useful for me to be able to edit it over the past few years as people change their minds about tiny parts of MOS. – ] (]) 16:43, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Jonesey95}} Ah, I see it now. The protection log of {{tl|Blockquote}} shows full protection from 2011, but over at its previous title {{tl|Quote}}, it was reduced to template editors three years later. I've adjusted it accordingly. ]] 00:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::Tricky. Thanks for investigating. I think with under 200K transclusions, we'll be OK with template editor protection. – ] (]) 00:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


The file does not show for me. When I click on the file image or thumbnail image, I get {{tpq|File not found: /v1/AUTH_mw/wikipedia-en-local-public.a8/a/a8/Sankranthiki_Vasthunnam_Release_Date%282%29.jpg}}. Do yuou know what would cause this? -- ] (]) 15:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
== F7 deletions ==
:{{Reply to|Whpq}} The image displays normally for me when I click on the file and thumbnail image. Does the error message persist even now? ]] 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
::Yes, I am still getting this error. I have tried it on my desktop and tablet which are both on my home network. I tried it from my phone after disconnecting from my home network and it still shows as an error. All of these are from some form of Chrome browser with me logged in. I tried from my desktop while logged out and it still has the error. I tried using an online web-based emulator emulating Opera under Win10. It still does not show. -- ] (]) 01:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


'''Update''' - Datbot also when trying to resize it. The image now shows for me. Some weird backend glitch I guess has resolved itself. -- ] (]) 21:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, please restore the following images so I can fix them.
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:{{Reply to|1989}} {{Done}}, files restored. ]] 11:34, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::So because both the taken photograph and the box set are non-free, it can’t be hosted here? I would need to find a free image of the non-free box set covers then use it as fair use? Both of the images were taken by Viz Media, who also owns the box art. Given that, there shouldn’t be a layered copyright issue since there is no two separate owners. Correct me if I’m wrong. ] (]) 14:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


== File:Russian Paralympic Committee special emblem (Tokyo 2020, Beijing 2022).jpg ==
== Deletion:Akidearest ==


Hi, you deleted ] as "F8: Media file available on Commons" but the version on commons was deleted hours later as "CSD G4 (recreation of content previously deleted per community consensus)". Can the file be undeleted as it is causing errors on a large number fo pages ( more than 100, closer to 700+). Cheers ] (]) 18:48, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi there!
:{{Reply to|KylieTastic}} {{Done}}, file restored. The relevant discussion is ]. Based on the admin's closing rationale, the licensing of the image may still have unresolved issues. ]] 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I wanted to reach out about the recent deletion of the article on YouTuber Akidearest. I understand the sources in the old article weren't sufficient or notable enough, so I would like to fully revise the article and put it up again for review. The original author's account is gone, so I don't know how to access the old article. I would like to reference it, if possible! ] (]) 13:32, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks ] (]) 10:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)


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==Deleted article==
== A misplaced file (commons/enwiki) ==
Please can I see the deleted article ]. ] (]) 20:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
A confused new user has recently uploaded obviously non-free logo to Commons. They clearly meant to upload it to enwiki, as an updated version of file that you have recently correctly deleted as unused. Since you, the deleting admin, are conveniently an admin both here ''and'' on Commons, would you mind fixing this little mess? It seems to be as simple as deleting from Commons, restoring , and then updating that outdated local version with that's on Commons right now. Thanks. ] (]) 03:50, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I have deleted the Commons file and restored the local file with the recent logo. ]] 06:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC) :{{Reply to|Davidgoodheart}} . ]] 13:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)


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== Deletion review for ] ==
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== File:Ramesh Panigrahi.jpg ==


== ] ==
Hi Explicit. Could you take a look at ]? I can't tell whether it's a reupload of the same file you deleted the other day per F4 or whether it's a different image with the same file name. The uploader is the same person so I'm thinking the image also has F4 and F11 issues even if it's a new image. -- ] (]) 22:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Marchjuly}} Hi, it's a different picture from the deleted version. A bot has already tagged it for lacking a source. ]] 06:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for checking on this. -- ] (]) 07:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


Totally unhelpful. ] (]) 15:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
== Deletion Review for ] ==

You have deleted ] without any discussion having taken place. I have posted a delete review request. Please restore this image until an actual discussion & review have occurred. ] (]) 15:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

== File:The Computer Book (BBC 1982).jpg ==

Hi,

I only got back to editing Misplaced Pages today, and read the file talk page a little earlier. It was only later in the day that I have time to do some editing and was planning to convert the deletion request to an FFD as the uploader (]) was quite passionate in his defence of the image. Would you be willing to restore so I can take it to FFD? -- ] (]) 00:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reply to|Whpq}} Very well, I have restored the file. ]] 00:45, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks -- ] (]) 00:48, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

== File:Bokontayev.jpg ==

Hi Explicit. Can you take a look at ]? This is another file that you've previously deleted twice before (once per F4 and once per F11) that could be a reupload or a new file with the same name. -- ] (]) 07:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

==Happy Holidays!==
And happy new year as well! ] (]) 19:48, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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Deleted PROD - please could you let me have the text of the deleted article here, as I think I have sources to warrant keeping it? Thanks, Ingratis (talk) 05:00, 1 January 2025 (UTC) andHappy New Year! Ingratis (talk) 05:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Please don't trouble - the same text, such as it is, is on the Punjabi Wiki. Ingratis (talk) 18:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Prod on Wordhunt

Hi Explicit -- Liz suggested that I look at recently deleted prods because there was a bulge in numbers and we were worried that they might have received reduced attention over the holidays. I found Wordhunt, which you deleted and which I think might be notable -- there's a respectable source in the deleted article (Boston Globe) and multiple hits in Proquest, many of which look reliable. Do you mind if I undelete it? Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 21:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Done – as a contested proposed deletion, the article has been restored upon request. plicit 01:39, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Removing link(s) undefined (XFDcloser)

You're leaving a lot of edits with this summary. Perhaps there's a problem with the XFDcloser tool. ~Kvng (talk) 04:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Kvng: This is a known issue. Unfortunately, it has gone unaddressed for several years. plicit 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Rafi malik.jpg

Hi Explicit and Happy New Year! What's your take on the licensing of File:Rafi malik.jpg? The file has EXIF data, but it says the image was generated in 2014. I can't find the full image anywhere online, but there's a crop from 2016 found here? Do you think this meets WP:F9 or should it be tagged with {{npd}}? -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Hi, I don't think this is a case that requires outright deletion as F9. Tagging it for lacking evidence of permission is the better way to go. plicit 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for taking a look at this. I've tagged the file with {{npd}}. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion of Akidearest article

Happy new year! I saw you deleted the article for YouTuber Akidearest last month and wanted to ask if there is any way to gain access to the article, since I would like to re-write it and reference the old article. I would of course revamp the sources so it doesn't get taken down again. Maehii (talk) 10:06, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@Maehii: Hi, I can restore it as a draft where you can work on it. Then, you can submit it as an Articles for creation submission. Would you happen to have any new sources available now? plicit 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Hi, that would be wonderful. Yes, I collected some new sources so the article will align with Misplaced Pages guidelines. Here are some examples:
https://metropolisjapan.com/beyond-the-view-counter/
https://www.tokyocreative.jp/en/influencer-47-akidearest
https://youtube.fandom.com/Akidearest
https://www.podbean.com/podcast-detail/h9y57-4dc32/The-Anime-Show-with-Joey--AkiDearest-Podcast (podcast with The Anime Man)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-y5RjZOLw (collaboration video with Netflix and CDawgVA) Maehii (talk) 08:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
@Maehii: The content is now available at Draft:Akidearest. plicit 00:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks so much! Maehii (talk) 09:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Template:Colorado Crush starting quarterback navbox

Would you be willing to undelete this? It was deleted for having two links but it should have had three (Bobby Pesavento was missing). I asked the nominator (who is also an admin) if he would be willing to undelete it but he suggested deletion review, which I'm not sure is necessary or not since there was nothing wrong with the delete outcome at the time. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

@WikiOriginal-9: The general rule of thumb is that navigational templates require five blue links. This would not survive TFD if only one additional link was added. plicit 00:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Fulbright Scholars

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Fulbright Scholars. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. RubyEmpress (talk) 05:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

In a case like this...

Tafajjal Hossain was a G4 which you originally deleted, and I did again today. I'm inclined to salt something like this, but wonder what a more experienced hand has to say. I'm deleting several dozen at once this afternoon (by the same sock) so while I might make some of my own choices, I'd like your opinion: what's the sweet spot on salting? Twice G4'ed seems slam dunk to me. I've also been experimenting with some short term salting, to discourage multiple attempts for now. BusterD (talk) 23:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@BusterD: When I became an admin, the general practice seemed to be that salting was done when a page was deleted three times. That's what I continue to do, kind of like a "three strikes and you're out" rule. It does differ from person to person, though. I think it's ultimately a personal decision. plicit 00:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the sage advice, such as it is. I noticed the policy suggests shorter term salting (as I have been trying) in some cases. Three strikes makes perfect sense to me. I've been spending some time every morning on the speedy list. (I'm now #35 among current admin deleters; a dubious distinction but surprising to me.) For clarification, technically any EC editor could potentially (and under policy) recreate a salted title, right? It's not a form of full protection. I'm not sure this is fully understood by the trolling community... BusterD (talk) 00:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@BusterD: I usually use short-term protection if a page is recreated three times in quick succession, like in a month, as I suspect the person loses interest if they are unable to create a page three to six months down the line. You're correct that EC editors can recreate a page if protection is set that way. plicit 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

ffdc template bot

Hello. I am currently working on Fatily's task, to remove ffdc templates which reference files that are no longer being discussed at FfD (BRFA). I came across some cases where your input would be appreciated. eg, Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film) where the template is incomplete: {{ffdc|log=2019 May 3|date=September 2019}} (no file name), and The Computer Programme {{FFDC|file_name.ext|log=2024 December 28 |date=December 2024}} (incorrect file name). Currently, I have programmed the bot to skip such instances (sample edits). What should be done? skip it (no action), or to remove these templates? Courtesy ping to @CX Zoom and Marchjuly:, as they were involved in the original bot request/BRFA. —usernamekiran (talk) 04:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I just removed the ffdc templates and associated captions from Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film)#Music. I don't think it was a case of the template being incomplete or otherwise used incorrectly; it's just that everybody forgot to remove it and its associated caption from the article after the FFD related to the relevant file was closed as "Delete". It seems like something a bot should be able to do, but removing the templates is actually something mentioned in point 7.2 of WP:FFDAI#Standard closure guidelines as post of the post close cleanup; there are, however, so few admins working at FFD these days that it's probably something that slips through the cracks every now and then. FWIW, I try to go back and check for these templates when I notice the file they're related to has been deleted and will remove them myself, but I probably miss some too. I'm not sure whether there are enough of these cases to warrant tasking the job to a bot, but I'm also not sure how to otherwise find them, except perhpaps digging through the results of a "What links here" search for the template. The problem with the template used in The Computer Programme#Book seems to be a combination of two user errors, and I've fixed that as well: the person who nominated the file for discussion just forgot to add the template, and the person who subsequently added the template just forgot to add the file's name. I don't know whether those types of errors can be resolved entirely by a bot, and probably some type of human review is also necessary for such cases. However, even when there's no file name provided, the malformed template should still link to the correct date of the FFD discussion; so, its use still sort of works as intended. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Usernamekiran: Why did KiranBOt remove this ffdc template? The relevant FFD discussion is still ongoing. Is a syntax issue? A false positive? Are you going around checking on KiranBot's removal of these template to make sure it hasn't prematurely removed any of them? -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
@Marchjuly: I had checked some of them, by actually going through the deletion page, and rest of the edits only by viewing the diff. I have added some new code/eligibility criteria for removal of the template, so such instances would not happen. But I would check every edit manually for a few runs. For the low-confidence occurrences, similar to examples provided above, would it be a good idea to create a list somewhere? similar to User:KiranBOT/List of mismatched QID? It is transcluded on Category talk:Infobox person Wikidata using qid to be handled by humans. —usernamekiran (talk) 10:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I really don't much about how bots work from a coding standpoint; so, I'm not really a good person to ask about that. Perhaps JJMC89 might be a good person to ask since they run various bots for checking on images, and they also have some corresponding userspace pages for "reports" for checking up on their bots. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
I can code the bot any way that you'd like. I mean, dont think about technicalities, I want opinion from you guys about what the bot should remove/update/keep as it is. —usernamekiran (talk) 03:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
My apologies usernamekiran for not responding sooner. I personally don't use bots or scripts when editing, but I think the most important thing for any bot tasked to remove ffdc templates is going to be to minimize mistakes as much as possible. This means the bot is going to somehow need to know when an FFD about a particular file has been closed. The bot is then going to somehow need to figure out which articles the file that was discussed was/is being used and check those articles for ffdc templates. I'm not sure how a bot can do this, particularly when a file ends being deleted, but if it can create a page like JJMC89 has done with User:JJMC89 bot/report/NFCC violations, then perhaps a human editor could review the page and check on the bot. According to the "What links here" for Template:ffdc, there are currently 83 pages where the template is being transcluded, and I don't know whether that's a little or a lot. Some these pages seem to be articles in which the file in question is being discussed at FFD, but others like Talk:German language/Archive 1#Image removal are archived pages where the relevant file has long been deleted but template wasn't removed. In these other cases, perhaps the template was left for reference purposes (even though it probably should've been removed), but I don't know how a bot can determine that. So, perhaps the bot should only remove ffdc template for files kept per FFD because these might have little value to readers since there is going to be at least a link to the FFD found on the file's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
@Marchjuly: no need to apologise I have added function so that bot would know if an FFD about a particular file has been closed, or ongoing (thats what I was referring to by "eligibility criteria" in previous comment). The bot goes through the list of transclusions, similar to this]. Out of 80, only 20 are in article space. That answers your second doubt. I ran the bot a few minutes ago, it removed template from two articles: special:diff/1267934090, and special:diff/1267934114 (there were 22 before the run). The bot created User:KiranBOT/reports/List of malformed FFDC template with fourteen entries (three templates on single page), I guess rest of the discussions are ongoing. Kindly let me know if this is okay. —usernamekiran (talk) 11:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Deleted article IPSOS

Hi! Could you please userify this at User:Skyerise/sandbox/Liber Pennae Praenumbra? I've been intending to write an article on the book from which this word was sourced. Kinda weird there was an article on the word but not the book, since there are way more sources on the latter than the former. As I am likely to include some portion of the content of the deleted article, I'd like to make sure the edit history is preserved for that content, unless you think it would be better to restore the article and make it a redirect for that purpose... Skyerise (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Skyerise: Hi, I've userfied the page as requested. plicit 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks muchly! Skyerise (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Sankranthiki Vasthunnam Release Date(2).jpg

The file does not show for me. When I click on the file image or thumbnail image, I get File not found: /v1/AUTH_mw/wikipedia-en-local-public.a8/a/a8/Sankranthiki_Vasthunnam_Release_Date%282%29.jpg. Do yuou know what would cause this? -- Whpq (talk) 15:12, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@Whpq: The image displays normally for me when I click on the file and thumbnail image. Does the error message persist even now? plicit 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes, I am still getting this error. I have tried it on my desktop and tablet which are both on my home network. I tried it from my phone after disconnecting from my home network and it still shows as an error. All of these are from some form of Chrome browser with me logged in. I tried from my desktop while logged out and it still has the error. I tried using an online web-based emulator emulating Opera under Win10. It still does not show. -- Whpq (talk) 01:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Update - Datbot also gagged on the file when trying to resize it. The image now shows for me. Some weird backend glitch I guess has resolved itself. -- Whpq (talk) 21:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

File:Russian Paralympic Committee special emblem (Tokyo 2020, Beijing 2022).jpg

Hi, you deleted File:Russian Paralympic Committee special emblem (Tokyo 2020, Beijing 2022).jpg as "F8: Media file available on Commons" but the version on commons was deleted hours later as "CSD G4 (recreation of content previously deleted per community consensus)". Can the file be undeleted as it is causing errors on a large number fo pages ( more than 100, closer to 700+). Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:48, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

@KylieTastic:  Done, file restored. The relevant discussion is c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Russian Paralympic Committee flag (2021).svg. Based on the admin's closing rationale, the licensing of the image may still have unresolved issues. plicit 00:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks KylieTastic (talk) 10:05, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

A WAM Barnstar for you!

Misplaced Pages Asian Month 2024 contest
Explicit Thank you for your additions in Misplaced Pages Asian Month 2024.5 of your articles have been accepted. Warm Regards, ZI Jony 18:39, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Deleted article

Please can I see the deleted article List of missing people from Nepal. Davidgoodheart (talk) 20:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

@Davidgoodheart: Here it is. plicit 13:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 6 § States and territories (dis)established in YYYY on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. harrz 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Draft:EMD GT42CU AC

Totally unhelpful. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)