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Bot is seemingly malfunctioning en masse

The User:WP 1.0 bot seems to not be updating the "WikiProject articles by quality pages" correctly for any WikiProject. Some pages have not updated in days, others are completely blank except for a notice that "the logs for this date were too large to upload", and all of them seem to be removing things that are still tagged with the project and creating massive walls of text with hundreds of redirects, such as Misplaced Pages:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Pokémon articles by quality log. Is there any way we can reasonably fix this and revive this page type, because it is effectively useless right now. (Oinkers42) (talk) 18:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

@Oinkers42: I believe this is related to the recent move of a load of category from names ending in "articles" to "pages" (see here and specifically here), as well as the code for Template:Articles by Quality being merged with Template:Category class (see here). Pinging MSGJ 🎅. Aluxosm (talk) 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I was hoping that 7 days after the last Sorry, all of the logs for this date were too large to upload. for WPVG that it would self-correct, but it didn't. Timing does seem like it choked on the countless thousands of fake importance changes - pinging Audiodude in case it just needs a restart or something. --PresN 16:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

The mass category and template title move could be part of it, but the bot was making its full run for several days after that happened. There were some erratic things going on prior though (such as an "Other" column here that shouldn't exist). There might have been some changes made to the banner shell or some assessment module somewhere causing this - I know the banner shell is now supposed to auto-detect set index articles, dab pages, and redirects, but the bot doesn't seem to always see that.

For the past four days, the bot runs for just under an hour before stopping, and then four hours later updates the OverallArticles table. There may be a specific project that's causing the bot to error out. (I tried running it manually for Automobiles a few days ago to no avail, but it appears that other editors have tried that with other projects as well with a similar result.) --Sable232 (talk) 22:18, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing this to my attention! I'll take a look now. audiodude (talk) 13:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Looks like the logging table ate up all of the disk space because of the superfluous changes. I've truncated it now, so WP1 should be running again as of midnight UTC today. I've also filed https://github.com/openzim/wp1/issues/778 in order to make sure we are deleting logs older than 7 days in the future. audiodude (talk) 14:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

audiodude, it started at midnight but ran for just under an hour before it choked again. Normally it would run for several hours. Nurg (talk) 05:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes thanks for pointing that out. It still has the same problem as before because the logging table did not get properly truncated. I'm having problems with the database at this point but will keep this channel updated. audiodude (talk) 10:24, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

An additional glitch happened overnight with WP:WPWW table. When I click any of the fields that have numbers, , e.g., Stub-class Mid-importance articles, I get a blank page instead of the list of articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:34, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Yes that's because the database is not currently operational. I don't know how to fix it, and I've reached out to Wikimedia cloud support. audiodude (talk) 14:57, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Okay the table has now been fully truncated, I'm going to kick off the update job and see if it completes tonight. audiodude (talk) 23:28, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

The update job has been restarted, let's see if it works tonight. I'll check back in a couple of hours. audiodude (talk) 00:30, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Things seem to be working properly again. Thanks everyone for your patience! audiodude (talk) 13:22, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting it out. Do you think you could implement a "number of changes" limit that it just stops logging changes once it reaches the limit to avoid having issues like this? If some similar drastic change happened again that affected nearly every page, having it stop the logging at 1000 changed pages (or pick a number) with a "sorry, too many changes" message would be ok for most of us, as it's too many to review anyway. The-Pope (talk) 13:25, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Audiodude. Really appreciate all you have done to get things working properly again. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Isn't that what it already does with the "Sorry, all of the logs for this date were too large to upload" message? It also does a thing in the code I originally implemented, where if there are too many logs for 7 days, it tries 6 days, then 5, etc.

The real problem we ran into this time was that there were so many logs that it didn't just overload the individual pages, but the entire database, which is what caused the prolonged outage. audiodude (talk) 03:03, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Biography (politics and government)

Biography (politics and government) is not manually updating with the bot. It only updates to about 50% and when I search Biography (politics and government) it doesn't load the table. ProfessorMaximillian (talk) 03:37, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Ditto regarding WP:WPWW which hasn't bot-updated since 20 Dec 2024. I'm unable to manually update it (it only reaches about 50%). --Rosiestep (talk) 15:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

This is the same root cause as above. It should be resolved today or tomorrow 🤞 audiodude (talk) 00:33, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Importance assessment glitch

Take a look at Special:PermanentLink/1265851819. Until the preceding table update, there was no "Other" importance for this project. From the looks of it, for pages that were newly assessed or moved over the past week, the bot isn't recognizing the importance assessment. The assessment templates are impossible to make head or tail of these days, so I don't know if there's been changes made to that which don't agree with the bot programming, or if this might be related to the issues above. --Sable232 (talk) 16:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

@MSGJ: Does any of these issues in this section and above seem to be related to the recent category cleanups? —CX Zoom 17:26, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

Since 29 December 2024, the WikiProject Crime-related assessment table has been showing an "Other" importance assessment column. This column contains all newly assessed and re-assessed articles, of any importance rating. The quality assessment log from 31 December 2024 shows that articles are being given a quality rating but are not receiving an importance rating. The assessment project web page indicates these articles are rated "NotA-Class" or "---", and the importance rating on any of these articles is not being recognised. However, all Category, File, Template and Draft pages are being given an "NA" importance rating, indicating the new "pages" maintenance categories ar being recognised. Also, Redirects with an importance rating in the banner also do not receive an importance rating, but when the importance rating is removed from the relevant banner then these articles wil then receive a "NA" (Non-Article) importance rating, and will then disappear from the "Other" column. It appears the existing Top, High, Mid, and Low "articles" categories are no longer being recognised, when they should be, because the names on these existing categories have not been changed. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 05:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

@MSGJ Do you know what this issue is and how to fix it? I'm a member of the same project and the issue bugs me. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry I have no idea what might be causing this. The ones I checked all had low-importance assigned. You should ask the bot's operator — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:49, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Mercedes-Benz M119 engine is one of the articles whose importance is not being picked up. I checked on PageAssessments and everything seems to be correct — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 06:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

@PARAKANYAA and @MSGJ: Ok, so I noticed that this issue was only happening with the main Crime-related table and not happening with other crime-related task forces, such as Organized Crime, Serial Killer, Terrorism or Australian crime. Following a hunch that this issue could be related to the way categories are configured - the issues is mentioned in relation to other Australian projects and is mentioned in the next topic about Draft-class articles not appearing in a table, (see below) That issue appeared to be related to the way categories were set up according to the documentation at Template:Release version parameters. So I checked the Category page Crime-related articles by importance and discovered it only listed the categories for NA-importance Crime-related pages and Unknown-importance Crime-related articles. The other importance categories were not listed. I now have added them back in by adding the top level category to each Importance category page. I know the template on each of these pages should have caused those pages to appear in the top level category but either this was not happening or the categories had disappeared for some reason, possibly related to changes in the names of some of the importance category pages. Now that I have made these changes I am now curious to see what happens on the next Bot run. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 04:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Well, adding the missing importance categories worked for the Crime-related table. Also adding the "Draft Class" as an extra assessment category, as described in the documentation at Template:Release version parameters caused the "Other" article category to be replaced with a "Draft" category. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sable232: I think the issue with an "Other" importance column appearing is due to the relevant importance categories missing from the Category:Automobile articles by importance. I have made some "no changes" edits to the missing categories and expect the "Other" importance column will disappear on the next bot run, now the various missing importance categories all appear in the upper level category. The "Other" article class occurs because the "Draft Class" category has not been set up as described in the documentation at Template:Release version parameters. (See next topic.) - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

PS: I have now updated the Category:Automobile articles by quality page to add in the extra parameters needed to display a "Draft" class row. Hopefully, this will cause a row labelled "Draft" to appear after the next bot run. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 03:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Cameron Dewe: Thank you! That worked for everything but a couple categories.

I'd always wondered why some projects had drafts appear as drafts in the table, but some had them as "Other". --Sable232 (talk) 00:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sable232: Yes, so it did. The problem with the two remaining categories in the "Other" importance column appears to be due to the way the individual pages are being processed. The page Category:NA-importance Automobile pages has been renamed from "... articles" to "... pages", so I have made a small edit to the Talk page banner so that the assessment bot will reassess the page. The page Category:Pre-war vehicles has the assessment categories hard-coded on the talk page, so I have added a WikiProject banner and renamed the NA importance category ending from "... articles" to "... pages". The hard-coded categories merely duplicate what the Talk page banner should do, and are probably unnecessary. The assessment bot appears to detect which categories articles/pages are in, not the text of the WikiProject banners. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 01:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Draft-Class articles not appearing in the big project tables - labelled as Other

For some of the projects I track, Draft-Class pages correctly appear as a row in the standard WP 1.0 table (ie User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Australia) but they don't for other projects (ie User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/Western Australia). The category Category:Draft-Class Western Australia pages exists, and has the 3 pages in it that appear in the big table under "Other". Draft-Class also does appear in the colourful horizontal table that is at the top of each of the other category classes (ie Category:FA-Class Western Australia articles). How can this be fixed, or is it a similar bug to the "Other importance" (not class) issue mentioned above? Note that this isn't the issue of articles/pages not appearing in the right class after a move (stuck at NA), until an edit (even a null edit) is done, this is about the draft row not appearing at all in the big tables for some projects. The-Pope (talk) 14:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

The behaviour you (and I) like does not happen by default (I can't remember why). There is a 2nd problem that you haven't realised yet, which is that although the 'Draft' row appears in the 'Australia' table, it is not fully populated – there are also 43 drafts among the 121 pages in 'Other'. To fix that you need to edit Category:Australia articles by quality, changing "Draft-Class Australia articles" to "Draft-Class Australia pages" on the 6th line.

Then, for Western Australia, copy the four "extra1-" parameters from Category:Australia articles by quality to Category:Western Australia articles by quality. Of course, insert 'Western' on the 3rd of those lines. Documentation is at Template:Release version parameters.

I assume that changing 'articles' to 'pages' as for 'Australia' needs to be done for all projects that have the "extra1-" parameters for drafts, but I'm not aware that this is generally known. I have just done the NZ one in the last 48 hours – it seems to have worked ok. Nurg (talk) 22:30, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! I knew there had to be a configuration setting somewhere, I just couldn't find it. I'm assuming the mix in other and draft is just needs the null edit done after a move, or maybe the articles/pages issue. The-Pope (talk) 09:03, 4 January 2025 (UTC)