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I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. ] (]) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Thank you for standing for arbitrator. I am far away from it all (travel, mourning), not in the mood, so just an informal question you can answer or ignore: | |||
:Sorted, thanks. ] (]) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* ''']''' chose ]er by five composers whose music was banned by the Nazis—], ], ], ] and ]—for a recital at the ]. | |||
== Probation == | |||
What does this 2024 DYK tell you about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024? -- ] (]) 16:22, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I assume you mean the article and not the DYK hook itself (which has nothing to do with infoboxes). I suppose the article doesn't really tell me anything about infoboxes for classical composers in 2024, which... I guess is a good thing? I don't see any evidence of warring or dispute over the infobox. ] (]) 16:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:: I meant the hook mentioning 5 composers whose talk pages might tell you something about the degree of disagreement. --] (]) 12:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::I did not think to look at every talk page, will do so in the near future but I will be largely unavailable for probably <s>24</s> 48 hours. ] (]) 12:22, 20 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:::: How about now? - November was rich in sadness and happiness for me, expressed in ]. Regarding my (archived question), I found one so far who looked deeply into the matter, ]. There are two composers on the Main page today, ] and ]. I find the response of my friend ] to a question on Copland's article talk promising. What do you think? --] (]) 09:17, 2 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::It is quite refreshing to see discussions on talk pages that are civil, even if the participants disagree. I believe I said something similar in the last round of elections, but it does appear that the age of edit warring over infoboxes has passed. While it's probably not a hill I would die on, I will admit that I like seeing an infobox at the top of biographies, if only to get those "fast facts" about a subject, so to see them in all of these pages shows that general opinions may be shifting from those of a decade ago. ] (]) 17:08, 2 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::::: Thank you! - I agree. A few editors of a few FAs don't agree, and they revert a new set of people each year who are used to infoboxes and never heard of a conflict, - I was one of those in 2012 ;) - ] comes from a DYK about a concert that fascinated me, and you can listen! For my taste, the hook has too little music - I miss the unusual scoring and the specific dedication - but it comes instead with a name good for viewcount. --] (]) 16:41, 6 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::: On the Main page today ] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's ] from the ]. We ] today. --] (]) 21:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::As it should be. That sounds like a delightful day. ] (]) 11:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::: Thank you! - Listen today to the (new) ]. --] (]) 11:14, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::Very interesting! ] (]) 13:01, 12 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::: Thank you! - Listen today to ]'s 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the ] when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with ], because he was on my ] this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --] (]) 16:59, 16 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::::::::::: I come to fix the cellist's name, with ] and new pics - look for red birds --] (]) 20:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? ] (]) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Hello == | |||
:{{tps}} Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. ] (]) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:I cannot ''permanently'' remove your rights, but I have removed them as requested. ] (]) 16:56, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks a lot! ] (]) 16:57, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Your BRFA == | |||
== Request for Comment on Talk Discussion == | |||
Hello Primefac, your BRFA at ] was approved. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Hello :-) | |||
:Thanks. ] (]) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 == | |||
May I respectfully request your comment/opinion on Talk discussion? I would ask you directly, here, but I figured I should place it in a more public space should someone else have the same question as me. Thank you :-) ] (]) 23:37, 18 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Replied there. ] (]) 07:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation. | |||
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Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! ] (]) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. ] (]) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. ] (]) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{t|help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page ] to now be ] as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! ] (]) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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:Answered at ] (and fixed wikilinks). ] (]) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @]. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? ]? ] (]) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ]. | |||
:Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. ] (]) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space. | |||
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== My talk page reverts == | |||
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Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like ]. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by ] which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with ]. For example, see ]. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: ]. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. ] (]) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
* A ] is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the ]. ] | |||
:Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. ] (]) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
::Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! ] (]) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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== Template issues == | |||
I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. ] (]) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Sorted, thanks. ] (]) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
I don't think you intended (bot edit) with SNE. | |||
== Probation == | |||
And your change to ] yesterday has a ] and a ] complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. ] (]) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? ] (]) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
:The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks). | |||
:I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? ] (]) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". and is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. . ] (]) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. ] (]) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::So I ''think'' this has to do with the {{para|h}} parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really ''changed'' anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because {{para|h}} is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{t|r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. ] (]) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the <code><nowiki><div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected"></nowiki></code> is on the "::" line, while the closing <code><nowiki></div></nowiki></code> is on an empty line. This is easy to see on ], using <syntaxhighlight> | |||
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}}</syntaxhighlight> and setting the context title to that of a protected page. The opening div is at the end of the second line. I'm not sure what the correct place is to add the newline, whether it should be conditional on something, etc., but I hope this helps. --] (]) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. ] (]) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Uh... ]. ] (]) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Thanks, that worked! --] (]) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see. | |||
::::::::It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. ] (]) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== I won't to need the seasonal events == | |||
:{{tps}} Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. ] (]) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
In ] there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from ] to ]. Also, pages that use ] but are locked specifically on the ] page should be changed now and any pages that ] but are for a single game should be kept as well. ] (]) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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Hello Primefac, your BRFA at ] was approved. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
The legislation is neutral, unbiased content. | |||
I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood. | |||
The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. ] (]) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:It was also directly copied from the source, which is ]. ] (]) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. ] (]) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. ] (]) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Okay, thanks. ] (]) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC) |
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I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. NotAGenious (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Probation
Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? Taabii (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. NotAGenious (talk) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Your BRFA
Hello Primefac, your BRFA at Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/PrimeBOT 46 was approved. Best regards, — xaosflux 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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Template issues
I don't think you intended this outcome (bot edit) with SNE.
And your change to Template:Redirect category shell yesterday has a few articles and a few templates complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks).
- I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? Primefac (talk) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". articles here and templates here is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. This is one such page. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. Primefac (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- So I think this has to do with the
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parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really changed anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because|h=
is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. Primefac (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)- I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the
<div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected">
is on the "::" line, while the closing</div>
is on an empty line. This is easy to see on Special:ExpandTemplates, using{{redirect category shell| |h=Test }}
and setting the context title to that of a protected page. The opening div is at the end of the second line. I'm not sure what the correct place is to add the newline, whether it should be conditional on something, etc., but I hope this helps. --rchard2scout (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)- Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. Primefac (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Uh... that was easy. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, that worked! --rchard2scout (talk) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see.
- It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Uh... that was easy. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. Primefac (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the
- So I think this has to do with the
- I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. Primefac (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". articles here and templates here is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. This is one such page. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I won't to need the seasonal events
In Template:Country at games navbox there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from Template:Country at games navbox to Template:Country at games with seasonal. Also, pages that use Template:Country at games navbox but are locked specifically on the Munich massacre page should be changed now and any pages that Template:Country at games navbox but are for a single game should be kept as well. PanImage (talk) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- If improvements can be made to an existing navbox, suggest changes to that navbox, don't just make an entirely new one that is little more than a copy. Thank you for pointing out the flaws in the current template; I am working on an upgrade. Primefac (talk) 10:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
RE: STEAM education
The legislation is neutral, unbiased content.
I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood.
The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. Starlighsky (talk) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It was also directly copied from the source, which is not allowed. Primefac (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. Starlighsky (talk) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks. Starlighsky (talk) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. Starlighsky (talk) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)