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== Situational question ==


I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. ] (]) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Have a question about a situation I've run across and would like guidance. Not sure if its a "Take to AN for clarification from two accounts, report both users for possible meat or possible noncontributing behavior, or an ignore it for odd but not actionable behavior at this time" situation.
:Sorted, thanks. ] (]) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


== Probation ==
Person A created their account in November, made 6 edits to their userpage, and has since made 388 edits to Person B's sandbox. Person B (created Dec 2022) is still actively editing, made 20 or so edits to mainspace a year or two ago, but has made 5900+ edits to their own sandbox. When I asked Person A last month if there was any connection between the two accounts or that was also their account, I received no response. I have not asked Person B anything since they haven't done anything questionable other than the predominate sandbox editing.


Your, or any TPS thoughts on this situation? Thanks, happy holidays! ] (]) 18:02, 20 December 2024 (UTC) Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? ] (]) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
:My immediate thoughts are that it is/was two students working on a school project. I would probably ask B what their intentions are, especially if they're not actually editing other than their userspace. ] (]) 18:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks, their sandbox content didn't give me the impression of student project since it was a Big Brother reality show type of page in Spanish with contestant details and tables with elimination status by week. I've run into a fair number of student assignments here and I can typically identify those by their language, focus, and the not infrequent "In Conclusion" section. I'll ask Person B to clarify their intent and connection to Person A and see if I get any response. Thank you. ] (]) 21:32, 20 December 2024 (UTC)


:{{tps}} Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. ] (]) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
== Follow Up ==


== Your BRFA ==
What up Primefac! So thankful you responded to my question a while back about switching my name on my Wiki page. Can you {{t|help me}} with a {{subst:Requested move ...}} for my page ] to now be ] as I’m no longer rockin under Rawsrvnt? Thanks! ] (]) 13:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
:Answered at ] (and fixed wikilinks). ] (]) 13:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)


Hello Primefac, your BRFA at ] was approved. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
== Declined history merge of ]/] ==
:Thanks. ] (]) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)


== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 ==
Hello Primefac, I noticed you declined the history merge, but now that lists me as the page creator when the creation should rightfully be attributed to @]. I draftified the article as it was an unreferenced BLP and then requested the cross-namespace redirect be deleted. Is there any way to fix this? ]? ] (]) 20:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
:Meh... who creates an article isn't always who edits the page first, but sure, I'll go back to your R2 and delete those. ] (]) 20:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


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Hi! You have called me out for reverting edits on pages like ]. Although that one looks benign, it's part of a pattern of disruptive editing by ] which led to them being blocked for three months. Their use of talk pages does not line up well with ]. For example, see ]. Currently they are evading their three month block by using a mobile address range: ]. I can stop reverting borderline talk page edits, but I thought you might like some of the context. ] (]) 14:38, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Okay, if you are reverting socking/block evasion, please make sure to use that in your edit summary; otherwise, it looks like you are simply removing talk page sections that might not be perfectly formatted. Thank you for the explanation. ] (]) 14:41, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
::Will do. Thanks for the very quick reply! ] (]) 14:48, 25 December 2024 (UTC)


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I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. ] (]) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? ] (]) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{tps}} Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. ] (]) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Your BRFA ==
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ].
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
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Hello Primefac, your BRFA at ] was approved. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}.
:Thanks. ] (]) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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== Template issues ==

I don't think you intended (bot edit) with SNE.

And your change to ] yesterday has a ] and a ] complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. ] (]) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks).
:I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? ] (]) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". and is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. . ] (]) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. ] (]) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
::::So I ''think'' this has to do with the {{para|h}} parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really ''changed'' anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because {{para|h}} is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{t|r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. ] (]) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the <code><nowiki><div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected"></nowiki></code> is on the "::" line, while the closing <code><nowiki></div></nowiki></code> is on an empty line. This is easy to see on ], using <syntaxhighlight>
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::::::Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. ] (]) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
:::::::Uh... ]. ] (]) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks, that worked! --] (]) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
::::::::Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see.
::::::::It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. ] (]) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

== I won't to need the seasonal events ==

In ] there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from ] to ]. Also, pages that use ] but are locked specifically on the ] page should be changed now and any pages that ] but are for a single game should be kept as well. ] (]) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:If improvements can be made to an existing navbox, suggest changes to that navbox, don't just make an entirely new one that is little more than a copy. Thank you for pointing out the flaws in the current template; I am working on an upgrade. ] (]) 10:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

== RE: ] ==

The legislation is neutral, unbiased content.

I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood.

The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. ] (]) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:It was also directly copied from the source, which is ]. ] (]) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. ] (]) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
:::You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. ] (]) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
::::Okay, thanks. ] (]) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

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I saw you fulfill my CSD G8-requests regarding these. I've filed a Twinkle ticket so these are deleted automatically from now on, but if you want to, you can go through the list. NotAGenious (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Sorted, thanks. Primefac (talk) 17:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Probation

Can I review article at WP:AFC being in "Probation", where you just added me? Taabii (talk) 16:12, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Yes, you can. Being on probation only means that during the probation timeframe, you can be removed from the list of reviewers without discussion or warnings. NotAGenious (talk) 12:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Your BRFA

Hello Primefac, your BRFA at Misplaced Pages:Bots/Requests for approval/PrimeBOT 46 was approved. Best regards, — xaosflux 12:17, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. Primefac (talk) 12:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Template issues

I don't think you intended this outcome (bot edit) with SNE.

And your change to Template:Redirect category shell yesterday has a few articles and a few templates complaining (just those with "Redirect category shell" or "Rcat shell" mentioned, a few others that show in the searches are unrelated). Given how widely used the template is, I suspect these are just a "quirk, fix at end page" type of issue rather than something in the main template, but that's just based on quantity. I can't identify the specific issue and hope that you know what the issue is. Zinnober9 (talk) 06:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The first was a quirk of AWB subst'ing a template, thought I caught all of them but clearly not (thanks).
I am not seeing any lint errors related to rcat shell on that page, nor when I search for the template. Where should I be looking to find them? Primefac (talk) 07:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Oops, broke the links in thinking I could wikilink them by removing the part before "Special:". articles here and templates here is where I'm seeing these issues. And in case these links post funny, they are in Stripped tags, article and template space. This is one such page. Zinnober9 (talk) 13:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I am headed out the door, but when I'm back in a few hours I'll give it my full attention. Primefac (talk) 14:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
So I think this has to do with the |h= parameter in the rcat shell. Nothing I did really changed anything: it went from a switch that called four different templates to a switch that called a single template (which, incidentally, called the same four templates which had simply been moved to subpages). If there are errors it's probably because |h= is using :: whereas the other rcats (including {{r protected}}) use **. I'm not really sure why my edit triggered the lint errors if that's the case, though. Primefac (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure why your edit triggered the lints either, but I think the problem is that the <div class="rcat rcat-R_semi-protected"> is on the "::" line, while the closing </div> is on an empty line. This is easy to see on Special:ExpandTemplates, using
{{redirect category shell|
|h=Test
}}
and setting the context title to that of a protected page. The opening div is at the end of the second line. I'm not sure what the correct place is to add the newline, whether it should be conditional on something, etc., but I hope this helps. --rchard2scout (talk) 12:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Oh! Interesting. I'll play around in rcat's sandbox and see if I can get a fix going. Primefac (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Uh... that was easy. Primefac (talk) 13:39, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked! --rchard2scout (talk) 15:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you both! Yup, that cleared everything related to this issue in Mainspace, and cleared most of the templates. I'm not sure if the remaining 6 templates claiming this issue are being lazy and haven't picked up the change yet (despite purging) and just need a bit of time, or if they need an additional tweak, but it doesn't seem to be affecting functionality, so I'm not too concerned and tempted to wait and see.
It never fails to surprise me how some things can't stand other things being on the same line, and others can't stand being apart. Zinnober9 (talk) 16:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I won't to need the seasonal events

In Template:Country at games navbox there are many pages that use this template, especially the Olympics, so it is necessary to change from Template:Country at games navbox to Template:Country at games with seasonal. Also, pages that use Template:Country at games navbox but are locked specifically on the Munich massacre page should be changed now and any pages that Template:Country at games navbox but are for a single game should be kept as well. PanImage (talk) 08:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

If improvements can be made to an existing navbox, suggest changes to that navbox, don't just make an entirely new one that is little more than a copy. Thank you for pointing out the flaws in the current template; I am working on an upgrade. Primefac (talk) 10:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

RE: STEAM education

The legislation is neutral, unbiased content.

I only added quotes from notable people. It was not self-promotion, and it is unfortunate that that was misunderstood.

The legislation alone really helps the article on an education topic. Starlighsky (talk) 17:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

It was also directly copied from the source, which is not allowed. Primefac (talk) 18:20, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
I changed the wording for the legislation. I can drastically improve that part. The article is about education, and the legislation addresses the education issue. Education is an important issue in terms of articles. Starlighsky (talk) 18:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
You are welcome to re-add any content that was removed, provided you write it in your own words. Primefac (talk) 18:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Starlighsky (talk) 18:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)