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== ] reported by ] (Result: |
== ] reported by ] (Result: Page protected indef) == | ||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks| |
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|List of religious slurs}} | ||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|174.196.104.11}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Xuangzadoo}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# - Dec 31 "these are the correct results according to Dave Leips" | |||
# - Dec 31 "Per source of Dave Leips" | |||
# - Jan 1 "These are the correct results per Dave Leip’s. Don’t undo this edit again." | |||
# - Jan 1 | |||
# - Jan 1 "these are the correct results per Dave Leip’s. Don’t undo this edit again." | |||
# - Jan 1 "per source of Dave Leip’s" | |||
# - Jan 1 "These are the correct results per source of Dave Leip’s" | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br />All the differences on both pages concern whether to use the numbers from a website called (which cites the Kentucky State Board of Elections as its data source) or the Official 2024 General Election Results provided by the . The number for "other" votes on the page before the edit warring was 126 for Letcher County (per election board), which the IP insists on changing to 146 (per Dave Leip). | |||
I should also note that {{ping|Mad Mismagius}} reverted all but one and the current IP edits on these pages without warning the user or attempting to engage in talk page discussion. I made one revert and left a warning on the user's talk page, who later reverted my revert. | |||
Also, there are two other IPs (now dormant) that made identical edits on these pages with similar edit summaries. One on "Correct Letcher County votes" and another on "these are the correct results according to Dave Leips". ] (]) 05:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|a week}} {{IPvandal|174.196.104.0/23}} from articles. ] (]) 06:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I have had to deal with this IP address as well. The issue seems to be that they are conflating "third party candidates" with write-in votes. ] (]) 22:40, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 1 week partial block for both parties) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Salim Halali}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|174.93.89.27}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | '''Previous version reverted to:''' | ||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270068423|19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)" | |||
# {{diff2|1266895720|18:44, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Source is about Bone." | |||
# {{diff2|1270041541|16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)" | |||
# {{diff|oldid=1266892993|diff=1266895307|label=Consecutive edits made from 18:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC) to 18:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} | |||
# {{diff2|1270039369|16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed" | |||
# "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"." | |||
## {{diff2|1266895307|18:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "" | |||
# "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil" | |||
# {{diff2|1266892452|18:26, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) - No need for the talk page. Just click on the link for Bône in this article." | |||
# {{diff2|1266871456|16:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) - Be that as it may, it is now known as Annaba." | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | '''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | ||
# {{diff2| |
# {{diff2|1270041824|16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on ]." | ||
# {{diff2|1266895726|18:45, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* January 2025 */" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | '''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270040704|16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt" | |||
# {{diff2|1270045411|17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Kanglu */ add" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | <u>'''Comments:'''</u> | ||
* I have partially blocked the IP for one week. {{u|M.Bitton}} reminded not to edit war. ] (]) 18:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* Point well taken. The only thing I would add is that M.Bitton, who has been blocked before for edit warring, reverted four times, and passed the three-revert limit before I did. You might, therefore, consider blocking M.Bitton for one week as well. ] (]) 19:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:{{re|PhilKnight}} contrary to what the IP is claiming, I did not violate 3R. ] (]) 19:29, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: partially reverts the biography to a previous state. And anyway, I blocked you for edit warring, not 3RR. ] (]) 19:34, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Yes it does revert it to the stable and well sourced version (the one that actually makes sense, given that Annaba has been known as such for centuries). For the rest, no comment. ] (]) 19:37, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* Well argued. I have partially blocked M.Bitton for a week as well. ] (]) 19:28, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - ] (]) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Protected) == | |||
:I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me. | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Eagle Rock, Los Angeles}} | |||
:Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules. | |||
:] (]) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - ] (]) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: More reverts , can someone do something? - ] (]) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: {{AN3|p}} I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. ] (]) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Stale) == | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Horsechestnut}} | |||
'''Page:''' ] <br /> | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kelvintjy}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179 | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793 | |||
# {{diff2|1266945204|23:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081 | |||
# {{diff2|1266914884|20:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] I am in the process of deleting unnecessary text so that what remains is referenced, cited information, but can't complete this process if you keep on deleting my work before I have finished editing. Please give me time to complete my edits. Horsechestnut. Please do not delete this User talk:CurryTime7-24 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964 | |||
# https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562 | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1266922503|21:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 ''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy | |||
User has also been using the account ] to pursue this edit war. They have been warned on both accounts. ] (]) 23:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|p}} – One week by ] per a complaint at ]. ] (]) 03:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
== ], IP 2a01:4b00:b90c:6700:* reported by ] (Result: Blocked from article for a week) == | |||
Hello | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|French mother sauces}} <br /> | |||
the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the ] page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the ] page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Hippo43}}, {{userlinks|2A01:4B00:B90C:6700:6C91:81FE:34E1:80E0}}, also {{userlinks|2A01:4B00:B90C:6700:A9B8:61A6:B4BA:3525}} and other IP's with the same prefix | |||
*{{AN3|s}} ] (]) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@] you blocked this user from the page ] in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. ] (]) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. ] (]) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to ] or ]. Now, he is making a lot of edit on ]. ] (]) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Previous version reverted to (Hippo43):''' ] | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: 1RR imposed on article) == | |||
'''Previous version reverted to (IP):''' ] | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Elon Musk}} | |||
'''Diffs of Hippo43's reverts:''' | |||
# ] | |||
# ] | |||
# ] | |||
# ] | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ergzay}} | |||
'''Diffs of IP's reverts:''' | |||
# ] (probably same IP) | |||
# ] | |||
# ] | |||
# ] | |||
There are a few more, just look at which is nothing but reverts. | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' ] (IP), ] (Hippo43, the IP warned them) | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' ], discussion is still on talk at ] | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to Hippo43's talk page:''' ] | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to IP's talk page:''' ], ] | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
I made the table, so of course I would like to keep it in, but at this point neither the IP nor Hippo43 seems interested in a discussion at all. Please end this month-long edit war. :-( ] (]) 00:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{AN3|b|one week}} Both editors, from the article. ] (]) 05:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked from moving pages for 2 weeks) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Floorless Coaster}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|EclipseExpress}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | '''Previous version reverted to:''' | ||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270885082|18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Reverting for user specifying basically ] as their reasoning" | |||
# {{diff2|1266972528|01:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC)}} "EclipseExpress moved page ] to ] over redirect: The title was "Floorleess Roller Coaster" before it was changed to "Floorless Coaster". " | |||
# {{diff2|1270881666|18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1270878417|17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Removing misinformation" | |||
# {{diff2|1270875037|17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" | |||
# {{diff2|1270724963|23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description" | |||
# {{diff2|1270718517|22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) Elon is not a multinational" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | '''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270879182|17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on ]." {{small|(edit: corrected diff)}} | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | '''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270885380|18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)}} "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" {{small|(edit: added diff, fix date)}} | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | <u>'''Comments:'''</u> | ||
Breach of ] {{small|(added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below)}}. ] (]) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
This is a new user who needs to be warned about moving pages without discussion. I need help restoring this. There seems to have been an intermediate move to a misspelled page, so I cannot restore it to the way it was. ] (]) 02:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Reverting a revert that explicitly pointed towards ] is a problem. ] (]) 08:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|2 weeks}} from moving pages. ] (]) 08:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
] seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 ] (]) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Reporting editor blocked 48 hours) == | |||
:Read the bright read box at ] (. ] (]) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Crunchyroll}} <br /> | |||
::@] So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. ] (]) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GachaDog}} | |||
:::]: {{tq|An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.}} – ] (]) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. ] (]) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. ] (]) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::]: {{tq|There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons}}. – ] (]) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. ] (]) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. ] (]) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it. | |||
:The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. ] (]) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. ] (]) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording followed by after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. ] (]) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. ] (]) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::What is a CTOP? ] (]) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::A CTOP is a ]. ] (]) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. ] (]) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::{{tq|Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.}} If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. ] (]) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. ] (]) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::This is an incorrect characterization of the discussion. The people you were edit warring with said, correctly, that he was accused of having made what looks like the Nazi salute. As you know from the video and the sources provided, this is objectively correct. You just don't like the fact that reliable sources said this about him. Nobody is trying to put "Elon Musk is a Nazi" in the article. ] (]) 23:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
: Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion, {{tq|"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"}}, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of ]. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general ] based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. ] (]) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that ''some'' of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers ''all'' edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the ''letter'', but not the ''spirit'', of 3RR (In other words, another case of ])) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. ] (]) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. ] (]) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. ] (]) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. Edit: And I'll additionally add, I'm most certainly interested in building an accurate encyclopedia. Misplaced Pages at some point in the past lost its mind and has determined that truth seeking is not the ultimate goal, but simply regurgitating sources. I'm still very happy to use sources that exist and they should be used whenever possible, but in this modern day and age of heavily politicized and biased media, editors more than ever need to have wide open eyes and use rational thinking. ] (]) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::"''Misplaced Pages at some point in the past lost its mind and has determined that truth seeking is not the ultimate goal, but simply regurgitating sources''" See ]. ] (]) 19:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::And ], while you're at it. ] (]) 19:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::"Use wide open eyes and use rational thinking (as defined by me)" seems to implicate ], as well. ] (]) 23:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Semi-protected one week; IP range blocked two weeks) == | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Paul Cézanne}} | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# "We don’t need an owners field to put bigger companies as the owner" | |||
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# "Because you can’t use the owner field to indicate top-level ownership if it differs from the direct parent. Crunchy roll is a Joint venture of SPT and Aniplex" | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> Hello, here I have a user who still removing the infobox field from articles related to streaming services, media companies, conglomerates, etc., without reason, explicitly saying that it should not be used to indicate which top-level property if It is different from the parent company if all this is demonstrated with or without sources than if they actually own the same company. ] (]) 07:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Because Crunchyroll is under Crunchyroll LLC. and is a “JOINT VENTURE” of both Sony Pictures Television and Aniplex. SPT is under Sony Pictures Entertainment which is under Sony Entertainment which is under Sony of America and the parent compamy Sony corporation. Aniplex is under Sony Music Japan which is under Sony Corporation. So yeah, Sony is not the direct owner of Crunchyroll. It’s owned through a joint venture, so that’s why i removed sony from owners field ] (]) 05:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{AN3|nb|48 hours}} First, Gacha's reported reverts are a) stale at this point and b) spread out over a period of several days so they would not have been a violation even if reported in a timely fashion. Second, in the interim, 64.32 has clearly violated 3RR in the last day or so. Since editing on ''all'' infoboxes is a ], I have blocked them for 48 hours and alerted them to CTOPS (I left a notice on the article's talk page a while back, also). ] (]) 05:36, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 3 months) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Khulna Division}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|76.68.24.171}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> This user keeps making disruptive edits in ]. Also, this IP address is violating ] by making personal attacks. Also violating ] as well. I warned the IP address to the ] but did not respond (see ]). Further information will be discussed on the ]. ] (]) 13:11, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*Blocked 3 months for block evasion.--] (]) 14:32, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@], | |||
*:what about their other ip addresses? | |||
*:They are using slang in edit summary. | |||
*:. | |||
*:@], | |||
*:check their contributions {{userlinks|2607:FEA8:571B:8000:21F7:A044:CB68:F9D}} ''']]''' 16:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*::@], | |||
*::User also uses these IPs to support their edits: {{smalldiv| | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2607:fea8:571e:ce00:d81a:9c9d:4833:65a4}} | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2607:fea8:571e:ce00:d8c:6de5:ff66:5c6c}} | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2605:8d80:6433:5419:acb6:e682:2454:6031}}<br>{{highlight|After block expiration|green}} | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2607:fea8:571b:8000:91c9:e741:c1ee:5aa2}} | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2607:fea8:571b:8000:9979:b44e:bfc2:f9e9}} | |||
*::##{{userlinks|2607:fea8:571b:8000:b072:749e:a671:e7ad}}}} | |||
*::I think a range block is needed. ''']]''' 16:51, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*I've blocked ] for one month and painfully/tediously reverted all their edits. The other IPs listed haven't edited since November.--] (]) 17:16, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:@] | |||
*:now check this | |||
*:] <br>{{vandal| 2605:8D80:6432:8C67:E42E:8C4:6EAF:1E4}} | |||
''']]''' 17:20, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I'm not going to block for one edit; what does it mean? A machine translation of the subject header works, but I tried the body and got nothing.--] (]) 17:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Wait I’m translating it. ''']]''' 17:26, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::{{highlight|“Breed of a beggar, dog. Breed of Bengali medium. You know nothing about wiki edit(with slangs), why have you come here? Tell me Where do u live? Otherwise I’ll call army and peel your skin. Breed of roadside slum.”|lightyellow}} | |||
:::::N.B chasa, baal has no English translation but a serious slangs in ], I’ve not added this in the translation. | |||
:::::It’s like this @] ''']]''' 17:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::@], | |||
::::::again with another IP | |||
::::::] ''']]''' 17:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::That's disgusting. Unfortunately, a range block that encompasses both IPs is too wide and has too much collateral damage. I've rev/deleted the posts and semi-protected your Talk page for one day.--] (]) 17:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::@], | |||
::::::::Thank you so much for your time. | |||
::::::::You gave me a lot of support, and it means a lot. 😊 ''']]''' 18:05, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Already blocked) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Paul Pelosi}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| |
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|203.115.14.139}} | ||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | '''Previous version reverted to:''' | ||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | '''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | ||
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# {{diff2|1271008376|06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Three revert rule */ new section" | ||
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# {{diff2|1271010383|07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion." | ||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | '''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | ||
*See ] | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | <u>'''Comments:'''</u> | ||
*This is straight-up vandalism. {{U|BusterD}} semi-protected the article for one week, and I've blocked ] for two weeks.--] (]) 14:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Reported user had self-reverted before the report was made) == | |||
EW with IDHT and copyvios. – ] (]) 17:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
User uses disingenuous edit summaries ("Edit Citation") to reassert edits , as noted by the difference between successive attempts (addition of three do-nothing spaces to cite template). <small><sub>''signed'', </sub></small>] (]) 18:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|ab}} ] (]) 03:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Wounded Knee Massacre}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|GreenMeansGo}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> I do not often use ANI, as I feel that it is far preferable to discuss and find a peaceful resolution, but in this case I feel my hand has been forced. I attempted to speak with the edit warring editor many times, and even asked them to self revert on many occassions, both on their own talk page as well as the article in question's talk page. They mockingly said "Have fun I guess." about coming to ANI, though I would have much rather we continued to discuss the subject and the sources in dispute on the talk page. At this point they are 5 edits in to a edit war and I politely stopped at 3 edits so as not to violate ]. I am a bit surprised it came to this and I apologize in advance to any admin who may now need to block the offending editor and revert to the prior consensus and stable lead on the article which had been present for many months before this editor aggressively became involved just today.<!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> | |||
* Well, the first edit is just a crappy source that I randomly found pop up in a change on my watchlist. The two edits are consecutive. I have attempted to discuss the issue on the talk page and offer a resolution. But since this seems to be a slow-motion edit war by OP going back , we may have some OWN issues to unpack. ]] 18:36, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:And again, I would just say that any points to be made should be made on the article talk page, but that reverting 5 times (or 4 depending on how you count them), still is in violation of the 3RR rule which is pretty clear and strict. ] (]) 18:41, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I see three reverts, . , and . maybe could maybe be a revert, depending on how long that source has been sitting in the article and if you're squinting hard enough. Iljhgtn also has made three reverts. ] (]) 18:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:: counts as a partial revert not of the full text with all sources included but absolutely includes the primary material being discussed in the talk page. ] (]) 18:45, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::That was captured in my first diff. Consecutive edits are a single revert. ] (]) 18:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::The request currently stands out there for the editor to self-revert and for the discussion to resume on the article talk page. ] (]) 18:49, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Oh good lord. You've been . ]] 18:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Where have you been in this discussion since you mentioned that this article is on your talk page? My first seeing you there was today, and you proceeded to force a new version of the lead and revert in rapid succession to your desired version. Again, I am happy to discuss this on the article talk page if you would self-revert and continue the discussion there. ] (]) 18:56, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::If you dispute a single source, I think that made sense for removal, due to the letter submission aspect of it, but in general I think it would have been best to discuss further on the talk page as well as maybe provide some reliable sources of your own or dispute the content of the other sources at the point of the talk page, and not simply to angrily enter into a series of reverts. | |||
:::::::Here were some of the other sources by the way, and I don't think you've disputed the reliability of these: , , . | |||
:::::::Though you've now removed all of these from the article. ] (]) 19:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Cool. Go...like...''get consensus''. Just because you made a change and reverted it for a year and half doesn't mean you have consensus. ]] 19:04, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Consensus is not always clear, and does not always merely side with a majority. Consensus is also reflected at least in part by reflecting what the reliable sources say. All I have asked is that we have a discussion around the reliable sources, and you self-revert in the meantime. Your response has been only to be dismissive and to not engage with the point raised, which is that we must ]. ] (]) 19:07, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::: is a partial revert of a . I would not consider this part of 3RR for today. ] ] 18:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|nv}} {{U|Iljhgtn}} and {{U|GreenMeansGo}}, take the discussion elsewhere. ] ] 19:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*:Ok. Thanks for reviewing this. ] (]) 19:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: No violation) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks| |
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Droop quota}} | ||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| |
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|68.150.205.46}} | ||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | '''Previous version reverted to:''' | ||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
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## {{diff2|1271020237|08:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | ||
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## {{diff2|1271021017|08:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | ||
## {{diff2|1271021273|08:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|1271014641|07:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)}} "there is no consensus in talk. there is no government election today that uses your exact Droop. it is not what Droop says his quota was" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | '''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | ||
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | '''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | ||
# {{diff2|1270714484|22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ reply to Quantling" | |||
# {{diff2|1270714531|22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ edit reply to Quantling" | |||
# {{diff2|1270714949|22:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ addition" | |||
# {{diff2|1270715070|22:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ edit addition" | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | <u>'''Comments:'''</u> | ||
User has been edit-warring for the past 9 months to try and reinsert incorrect information into the article, despite repeatedly having had this mistake corrected, and a consensus of 5 separate editors against these changes. Request page ban from ], ], ], and ]. ] (]) 22:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Also at '']''. His edits don't match the sources, and reverts good edits that do. Also biased towards the subject as he removes mixed/negative reviews, as seen in '']''. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family: Papyrus">] ] </span> 05:24, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{An3|noex}} There's only ''two'', their first edits to the article in a couple of months. And, if there are issues at other articles, maybe this is properly handled at AN/I. ] (]) 05:40, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:{{u|Closed Limelike Curves}}, the user appears to have self-reverted less than an hour after their last edit warring continuation, and 14 hours before your report. ] (]) 00:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Warned user(s)) == | |||
::Thanks, I missed that (I didn't notice the last edit was a self-revert). ] (]) 00:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:68.150.205.46, thanks for self-reverting. Can you agree not to re-add the same material until a real consensus is found? An ] could help. ] (]) 00:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked indefinitely) == | |||
'''Page:''' ] | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Tiwana family of Shahpur}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' ] | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Farshwal}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' ] | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' , the whole section | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | |||
User insists on adding irrelevant material in the lede. Irrelevancy aside, he fails to get consensus to include the challenged material (by 2 users at least in the talk page) per ] and edit-wars instead to get it in. | |||
I'd love to add also that he argued that the religion of the suspect in the lede is {{tq|Absolutely relevant to the potential motive for the attack and therefore}} in this edit summary which can only imply that he believes that being a Muslim is enough of a motive to commit terrorist attacks. | |||
*{{AN3|w}} No 3RR violation and user was warned of the 1RR restriction after their last edit. ] ] 07:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Talk:Subcompact crossover SUV}} <br/> | |||
'''Previous version:''' <br/> | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
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'''Comments:''' | |||
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This editor has reverted many useful edits, and most of my edits, other users' edits, without explaining their reverting of edits with citations . | |||
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*{{AN3|nv}} ] ] 07:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: ) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Zionism}} <br /> | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|إيان}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
*Note: ] is active on this page. | |||
# (removes 1885 which I added) | |||
# (removes 1885 and the quote "The man credited with coining the word ‘Zionism’ in 1885, Nathan Birnbaum," which I added) | |||
See , | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | '''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' ] | ||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' ] | '''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' ] (from User:Farshwal themselves) | ||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | '''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' ] | ||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | <u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> | ||
Hi, I'm just an uninvolved third-party editor who came across this 3RR violation involving the change of "Parmar Rajputs" to "Jats" in the article lead sentence. The editor themself has made a post on the talk page as seen in the diff above, but they continued to edit-war without getting a consensus first at that talk page discussion. Also worth noting the editor had received a in Sep 2024 for similar disruption, such as ], where they also made an edit changing something to "Jats". — ] ] 09:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Note attempt to invite user to self-revert 1RR violation. Yes, consensus required is also active on this page, but 1RR is still being violated here. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 07:59, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* '''Comment''': In ] , they are using a slur against the ] caste by calling it "R***put" meaning "Son of Wh***", which is also the caste they are deliberately removing from the article. That in itself merits an indef.] (]) 12:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*Blocked indefinitely.--] (]) 14:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: OP indeffed) == | |||
:@] but إيان is correct that the addition market no sense... This is not something to drag someone to ANEW over. ] ] 19:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::So 1RR is waived when the edits don't appeal to someone? I thought 1RR was a bright line rule. ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 21:22, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::And in my view the edits make sense and I thought edit warring is wrong, even if you're right? Are you weighing in on the content, or the behavior? ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 21:28, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Wow, this is so petty AndreJustAndre. ] vibes. When they brought this up on my talk page, they ] the tenuous nature of their grievance: {{tq| While '''the two edits are slightly different''', in both cases you removed the addition of 1885, '''arguably, two reverts, '''violating the 1RR sanction on this article,}} emphasis my own. When they ] me to self-revert, I ] them to seek consensus on the talk page. Instead, they decided to waste everyone's time at ANEW. | |||
:I didn't go in and explain my edits because I didn't think it was worth it, but it appears the first time I 1885 was accidental as I was trying to manually manage an edit conflict. I thought the only addition was the source. (Pharos ] on the talk page that AndreJustAndre's information aobut 1885 information was erroneous; AndreJustAndre then felt it was to include 1885 and used wording that makes no sense. ] (]) 19:33, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::POINT is when you ''disrupt'' Misplaced Pages to prove a point. I invited you politely to revert yourself and reminded you of 1RR. Is 1RR waiveable? ''']'''<span style="border:2px solid #073642;background:rgb(255,156,0);background:linear-gradient(90deg, rgba(255,156,0,1) 0%, rgba(147,0,255,1) 45%, rgba(4,123,134,1) 87%);">]</span> 21:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Bhanot}} <br /> | |||
== ] reported by ] (Result: Warned; indefinitely blocked) == | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|DoctorWhoFan91}} | |||
{{Comment}}Now what should I say, this reckless person has crossed all limits for three revert rule and spamming on user talk with thrustful comments , and he keeps bothering me repeatedly with the same fabricated nonsense. He keeps giving those mocking statements against me for commissioning an report and is persistently stuck on the same matter over and over again. I want him to be punished for his vile actions, and for the offensive things he has said in his statements, which had a bad influence on people. He is going to everyone’s talk pages | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Shahada}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Zyn225}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | '''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | ||
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# {{diff2|1267343878|18:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Corrected the true name of Allah. In the holy Quran; the holy revelation from the creator of the universe Allah is the name introduced to humanity. A name has no translation. Thus changing it to a translation in English does not provide the true information about Islam. More so it removes the whole integrity of the Shahada. The Shahada must be testified on the true name of Allah." | |||
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# {{diff2|1267343718|18:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Corrected the true name of Allah. In the holy Quran; the holy revelation from the creator of the universe Allah is the name introduced to humanity. A name has no translation. Thus changing it to a translation in English does not provide the true information about Islam. More so it removes the whole integrity of the Shahada. The Shahada must be testified on the true name of Allah." | |||
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# {{diff2|1267343494|18:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Corrected the true name of Allah. In the holy Quran; the holy revelation from the creator of the universe Allah is the name introduced to humanity. A name has no translation. Thus changing it to a translation in English does not provide the true information about Islam. More so it removes the whole integrity of the Shahada. The Shahada must be testified on the true name of Allah." | |||
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# {{diff2|1267342322|18:10, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Corrected the true name of Allah. In the holy Quran; the holy revelation from the creator of the universe Allah is the name introduced to humanity. A name has no translation. Thus changing it to a translation in English does not provide the true information about Islam. More so it removes the whole integrity of the Shahada. The Shahada must be testified on the true name of Allah." | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1267343727|18:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Disruptive editing." | |||
# {{diff2|1267343865|18:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Final warning notice on ]." | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
Single purpose account, does not grasp ] ]. ] 18:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' | |||
:I understand I should have discussed this but I can't seem to find the discussion page. | |||
:I think some people are talking a Misplaced Pages page personally. Especially the anti Islam users. | |||
:A translation for the name chosen by Allah in his holy revelation to humanity sounds illogical to me. Do you use the translation of your name when you travel to a new country? | |||
:It's very clear some people are deliberately ignorant because of their personal beliefs. I am surprised this is even allowed from a non Muslim to edit a page about Islam. Clearly you're doing what you like. This is a Misplaced Pages page where people come to learn. How would they even say the Shahada if you misguide them like this. The Shahada must be said with the True name Allah. ] (]) 18:44, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::{{re|Zyn225}} The place to discuss your change is at ]. The reasons I'm not blocking you for edit-warring is because you are new and because you were not warned about edit-warring. I must also tell you, though, your idea of how Misplaced Pages works is wrong. We work by consensus, not by an editor's personal beliefs. Also, we do not restrict editors from voting on articles because of their religion, nationality, ethnicity, or even their "expertise" in the subject matter. You are '''warned''' that if you return to edit-warring, you risk being blocked without further notice.--] (]) 19:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::@] the user was warned about disruptive editing, but not edit warring and 3RR specifically. ] ] 19:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::I know.--] (]) 19:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::New yes but if I knew this is how information is served to normal people I would have stopped coming to this site ages ago. So let's be logical about the Shahada; the Testimony. So basically according to editors and consensus if someone says "There's no God but God" and "Muhammad (peace be upon him) is the servant and messenger of God" -- th | |||
:::FYI Prophet Muhammad did not even know the word "GOD". This is not the message that the messenger delivered. The Holy revealation; The Holy Quran is very clear about the identity of Allah. If you make a translation of the name you literally misguide everyone including yourself. This needn't debating when you think of it. Basically if a non Muslim from Siberia would come to Shahada page they'd get a word that English speakers non Muslims use. No Muslim uses the word "God" not in the Adhan, not in the prayers. Somethings should be transliterated otherwise it's misinterpretation. Also some translators in hope of selling religion and making people believe have normalized using the word God. Because let's be honest there is some kind of fear in some non Muslims when used the word Allah. | |||
:::Well what can I say except that everything would be clear when our soul reaches the throat. When we become corpses decomposing to skeletons. Then would we believe. Then would we become mindful of our creator. Grateful for every creation of Allah we enjoy everyday and every breath we take without paying anything. Gratitude that is not within disbelievers. Misplaced Pages needs better management. This is not acceptable that you let whoever hav upe an opinion about things they don't know. What do you except from disbelivers when you put this to vote? Do you expect them to accept the name Allah? ] (]) 19:38, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::@] you can either learn to work with disbelievers or you can go elsewhere. ] ] 19:42, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::No disbelievers have the right or the knowledge to educate the world about their creator Allah, and about religion. It's mockery when you do that. I am working with disbelievers; the Shahada should be properly translated so they are properly educated. If you say the translation you made of the Shahada you are not a Muslim. Jibrail (as) brought the word "Allah" with the revelations as per the command of Allah. Its not from Arabic speaking people and their tradition as you've stated. | |||
:::::Listen wether you believe or not believe its your choice, wether you accept or not that too your choice but to put the wrong and misinterpreted knowledge to the mass that's a heinous crime. It seems to me all the fuss and debate about this issue because these editors just can't accept the word Allah. Muslim is someone who submits their will to Allah as every other creation have done. Because the will of Allah is what people call the law of physics but its the law and will of Allah. So a non Muslim disbeliever should go elsewhere and not try to edit an Islamic page. ] (]) 20:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::::Blocked indefinitely per ] ] ] 20:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::::{{re|EvergreenFir}} I don't think my warning worked. Thanks for taking care of it - I was eating lunch. :-) --] (]) 21:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::"There is no God but God" --- is that your translation of the Shahada? Do you realize how illiterate and illogical the translation sounds when you don't use the true name of Allah? Not to mention the above statement is not the Shahada anymore. One of the 3 questions asked in the grave is Who is your Creator/Lord/Ilah/God? The true answer is Allah, I suppose you would not answer them with the very question you would be asked. Majority of humans can not say the truth. Because they did not worship their creator and now we are here trying to debate the Name? Well guess what all these translations would do no help. You would be called a liar. So consider the information people taking from here; it's far from being right and the truth. I do not accept this as a Muslim. How is this even logical that non Muslims are creating and editing topics about Muslims. Like thanks but no thanks. Not like this; misinterpreted to the core. ] (]) 19:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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== ] reported by ] (Result: Blocked 24 hours) == | |||
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|2017–2019 Saudi Arabian purge}} | |||
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Jabust}} | |||
'''Previous version reverted to:''' | |||
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1267352536|19:08, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (]) reverted vandalism by grudge-bearing stalker" | |||
# {{diff2|1267352090|19:05, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
# {{diff2|1266663622|17:59, 1 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision ] by ] (])" | |||
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' | |||
# {{diff2|1267340515|18:02, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notice: Edit warring softer wording for newcomers ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1267350962|18:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notice: Edit warring stronger wording ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1267352206|19:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "ONLY Warning: Unexplained content removal ]" | |||
# {{diff2|1267352678|19:09, 4 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Final Warning: Unexplained content removal ]" | |||
'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' | |||
<u>'''Comments:'''</u> | |||
:I suspect a ] is coming here, but for now I'll say to OP, don't make personal attacks . Bafflingly, you linked to the NPA policy in the same edit summary. — ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 11:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
Repeated edit warring on multiple pages with multiple users. User has strange knowledge of Misplaced Pages policy for an account only 5 days old, I would request a ] on this individual also. ] (]) 19:11, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:This is a bad faith report by a user who is seemingly just enraged that I can find guidelines in the manual of style and follow them. They reverted four times at ], where I had removed a redundant restatement of the article's title. Then they evidently decided they would like to bother me more, so reverted an edit I had made several days ago to ], for no reason whatsoever. I find their behaviour to be extremely unpleasant and very consciously harmful to Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 19:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::@] I've seen your frivolous edits in multiple pages of "List of people executed in the United States (Yearly)" and I blatantly disagree with your edits. | |||
::He isn't "enraged", @] is actually right about reporting you, you've made multiple frivolous edits on other pages such as ], in every article, you'd see a "talk" page, which you can discuss about what to edit, and you've blatantly ignore his messages and repeatedly purging his message in your profile talk page. | |||
::In your message, you've stated that his behavior is "extremely unpleasant", but apparently, you're the one that is purging his messages in your profile talk page as stated above, ignoring his verbal warning, therefore, you are being condescending by doing so. | |||
::You're currently blocked by @] for 24 hours, next time before proceeding to edit, please kindly used the "talk" page to discuss before proceeding to make frivolous edits. ] (]) 19:57, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:The OP account has been reported to AIV by ] with the suspicion that it's yet another sockpuppet account of User:Truthfindervert: ]. — ] ] 11:14, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
{{re|Jabust}} I am not the one continuing to revert edits. You found the guidelines on the manual of style only 4 days after creating a brand new account??? That is extremely suspicious. You also refused to even discuss the matter and just reverted all the edits. I undid my edit on the ] in good faith because I am not continuing to edit war unlike yourself. ] (]) 19:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, kinda funny isn't it, a sockpuppet accusing others of edit-warring after move-vandalising. OP has been reported to AIV and SPI btw, so this will just led to them being blocked faster lol. ] (]) 11:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
*{{AN3|b|24 hours}} ] ] 19:39, 4 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::Could somone move the page back after OP is blocked, they have done it again. ] (]) 11:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::Yeah let's give the bots that fix the double-redirects a break and stop move-warring the page until the account is blocked. It's only gonna clutter the page histories and logs more and more, and the title the person is trying to move the page to isn't an unconstructive title anyway. — ] ] 11:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::::Apologies, I got carried away trying to stop the bot. ] (]) 11:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::::Sock, not bot, sorry. ] (]) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:I will now direct any visiting mods to Tested account , so yes, this should be a ]. I do not know this user but there are multiple accusations of this being an LTA sock. — ''']''' <sup>''(])''</sup> 11:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
::The account is a suspected sock of ], see ]. Pinging {{Ping|Ivanvector|zzuuzz|Izno}}. - ] (]) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:::I had said this before as well—you are the same people @]@] who want to manipulate the article in your own way and keep editing it to portray it in the same context of that past misunderstanding and conflict. So, I have nothing for you. You just keep putting in your efforts, but the consequences of your violative actions will come to you eventually. I have no answers for that, but when you are found guilty, you will have to deal with them on your own. | |||
:::This is my last reply, requesting administrative intervention as the accuser under the three-revert rule. ] (]) 11:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
* I have '''indefinitely blocked''' ]; almost certainly a sock but even if they aren't, they're being wildly disruptive and attacking others. ] 11:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
:The page has also been move-protected for 2 days following a ] I made at RPP/I. — ] ] 11:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC) |
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User:Xuangzadoo reported by User:Ratnahastin (Result: Page protected indef)
Page: List of religious slurs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Xuangzadoo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 19:29, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270059834 by 25 Cents FC (rv, none of that contradicts my edits. There are no sources which call "pajeet" a religious slur directed at Hindus. It's only a religious slur for sikhs. There are no sources which call Chuhras Christians or Hindus, they are muslims. There are no sources which mention "cow piss drinker" originating in the US, it's from South Asia. None of my edits contradict what the talk page says.)"
- 16:57, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270040967 by Ratnahastin (The articles specifically mention "pajeet" as a religious slur directed at sikhs and/or as a racial slur directed at other south asians. There is no mention of "pajeet" being directed as a religious slur at Hindus.)"
- 16:44, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Hindus */ not a religious slur targeted at Hindus, removed"
- 01:28 15 January 2025 "The two sources added for "Pajeet" specifically mention that it's directed at Sikhs or at south asians racially, not at Hindus religiously, removed. "Sanghi" does not have a separate mention for Kashmir in any of its sources, removed. Added disambiguating link to Bengali Hindus. Corrected origin of "cow-piss drinker" to the correct country of origin as mentioned in the source. Added further information for "Dothead"."
- 11:55, 14 January 2025 11:55 "Undid revision 1269326532 by Sumanuil"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 16:58, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Edit warring on List of religious slurs."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 16:52, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* 'Anti-Christian slurs' */ cmt"
- 17:18, 17 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Kanglu */ add"
Comments:
All these reverts yet not a single response at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:42, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am replying here as I'm not sure what you want from me.
- Every edit I made is fairly accurate and doesn't contradict or vandalize any of wikipedia's rules.
- Xuangzadoo (talk) 07:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
- You are still edit warring without posting at the talkpage. - Ratnahastin (talk) 16:07, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
- More reverts , can someone do something? - Ratnahastin (talk) 01:06, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected I also note the user has been alerted to CTOPS, which I protected the page under, so there will be no room for argument if this behavior continues. Daniel Case (talk) 23:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Kelvintjy reported by User:Raoul mishima (Result: Stale)
Page: Political dissidence in the Empire of Japan
User being reported: Kelvintjy (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1217491179
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1227039793
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1229865081
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230019964
- https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan&oldid=1230184562
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: See July 24th 2024 https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: See "Biased" https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Political_dissidence_in_the_Empire_of_Japan
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Kelvintjy
Comments:
Hello the user Kelvintjy has been engaged in another war last summer and was banned from the Soka Gakkai page. He's been pursuing an edit war on the Dissidence page too without daring give explanations on the talk page though he was invited to do it many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raoul mishima (talk • contribs) 19:58, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stale Bbb23 (talk) 20:03, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Bbb23 you blocked this user from the page Soka Gakkai in Aug. 2024 for the same reasons. Raoul mishima (talk) 12:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- You also block Raoul but later unblocked him after he made his appeal. Kelvintjy (talk) 00:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't understand the user always keep targeting me. I am more of a silence contributor. I had seen how the complainant had argue with other contributor in other talk page and after a while the complainant stay silent and not touching certain topic and instead keep making edit on articles related to Soka Gakkai or Daisaku Ikeda. Now, he is making a lot of edit on Soka Gakkai International. Kelvintjy (talk) 05:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Ergzay reported by User:CommunityNotesContributor (Result: 1RR imposed on article)
Page: Elon Musk (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ergzay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 18:31, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270884092 by RodRabelo7 (talk) Reverting for user specifying basically WP:IDONTLIKETHIS as their reasoning"
- 18:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270880207 by EF5 (talk) I believe you have reverted this edit in error so I am adding it back. Rando tweet from a random organization? The Anti-defamation league is cited elsewhere in this article and this tweet was in the article previously. I simply copy pasted it from a previous edit. ADL is a trusted source in the perennial source list WP:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources#Anti-Defamation_League"
- 17:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270877579 by EF5 (talk) Removing misinformation"
- 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270854942 by Citing (talk) Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well"
- 23:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Revert, this is not the purpose of the short description"
- 22:28, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1270715109 by Fakescientist8000 (talk) Elon is not a multinational"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 17:57, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule on Elon Musk." (edit: corrected diff)
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC) "stop edit warring now or it all goes to ANI" (edit: added diff, fix date)
Comments:
Breach of WP:3RR (added comment after 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC) comment added below). CNC (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
User:CommunityNotesContributor seems to be making a mistake here as several of those edits were of different content. You can't just list every single revert and call it edit warring. And the brief edit warring that did happen stopped as I realized I was reverting the wrong thing. https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Elon_Musk&diff=prev&oldid=1270879523 Ergzay (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Read the bright read box at WP:3RR (. O3000, Ret. (talk) 18:54, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page—whether involving the same or different material—within a 24-hour period.
– Muboshgu (talk) 19:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Well TIL on that one as that's the first time I've ever heard of that use case and I've been on this site for 15+ years. 3RR in every use I've ever seen it is about back and forth reverting of the _same content_ within a short period of time. It's a severe rule break where people are clearly edit warring the same content back and forth. Reverting unrelated content on the page (edits that are often clearly vandalism-like edits, like the first two listed) would never violate 3RR in my experience. Ergzay (talk) 19:04, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd honestly love an explanation on that rule as I can't figure out why it makes sense. You don't want to limit people's ability to fix vandalism on a fast moving page. Ergzay (talk) 19:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
There are certain exemptions to the three-revert rule, such as reverting vandalism or clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons
. – RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- No I mean even in the wider sense. Like why does it make sense to limit the ability to revert unrelated content on the same page? I can't figure out why that would make sense. The 3RR page doesn't explain that. Ergzay (talk) 19:13, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Vandalism is an exemption. But vandalism has a narrow definition. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:12, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- WP:3RR:
- WP:3RR:
- @Objective3000 So let me get this straight, you're saying making unrelated reverts of unrelated content in a 24 hour period hits 3RR? You sure you got that right? As people violate that one all the darn time. Never bothered to report people as it's completely innocent. If you're heavily involved on a page and reverting stuff you'll hit that quick and fast for a rapidly updated page. Ergzay (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Should be added, that I was in the process of reverting my own edit after the above linked comment, but someone reverted it before I could get to it.
- The 18:12 edit was me undoing what was presumed to be a mistaken change by EF5 that I explained in my edit comment as they seemed to think that "some random twitter account" was being used as a source. That revert was not reverted. The 18:31 edit was a revert of an "i don't like it" edit that someone else made, it was not a revert of a revert of my own change. Ergzay (talk) 19:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- A CTOP is a WP:CTOP. RodRabelo7 (talk) 19:59, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is a CTOP? Ergzay (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Looks like you have seven reverts in two days in a CTOP. I've even seen admins ask someone else to revert instead of violating a revert rule themselves. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- We can agree to disagree, but the reasons I called it IDONTLIKEIT was because the person who was reverted described the ADL, who is on the perennial sources list as being reliable, in their first edit description with the wording "LMAO, this is as trustworthy as Fox News" followed by "cannot see the pertinence of this" after another editor restored the content with a different source, which is the edit I reverted. Ergzay (talk) 19:34, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Frankly, I thought your characterization of IDONTLIKEIT in your edit summary was improper and was thinking of reverting you, but didn't want to be a part of what I thought was your edit war. O3000, Ret. (talk) 19:26, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- In Ergzay's defense some of these reverts do seem to be covered under BLP, but many do not and I am concerned about the battleground attitude that Ergzay is taking. The edit summaries "Discussion ongoing and it's incorrect as well" and "Removing misinformation" also seems to be getting into righting great wrongs territory as the coverage happened whether you agree with the analysis or not. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 20:05, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages.
If your argument is that Misplaced Pages is wrong about things and you have to come in periodically to fix it; that’s not an argument that works very well on an administrative noticeboard -- and certainly not a good argument here at AN3. O3000, Ret. (talk) 22:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I wouldn't worry all too much about it, 1rr for the article will slow things down and is a positive outcome all things considered. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 03:26, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is an incorrect characterization of the discussion. The people you were edit warring with said, correctly, that he was accused of having made what looks like the Nazi salute. As you know from the video and the sources provided, this is objectively correct. You just don't like the fact that reliable sources said this about him. Nobody is trying to put "Elon Musk is a Nazi" in the article. MilesVorkosigan (talk) 23:34, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Horse Eye's Back Thanks but at this point things are too heated and people are so confident Musk is some kind of Nazi now nothing I say is gonna change anything. It's not worth the mental exhaustion I spent over the last few hours. So I probably won't be touching the page or talk page again for several days at least unless I get pinged. The truth will come out eventually, just like the last several tempest in a teapots on the Elon Musk page that eventually got corrected. Misplaced Pages is gonna be Misplaced Pages. Ergzay (talk) 21:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Based on the comment in response to the notification for this discussion,
"I've been brought to ANI many times in the past. Never been punished for it"
, I was quite surprised to see that the editor didn't acquire an understanding of 3RR when previously warned for edit warring in 2020. That's sometime ago granted, but additionally a lack of awareness of CTOP, when there is an edit notice at Musk's page regarding BLP policy, is highly suggestive of WP:NOTGETTINGIT. This in addition to the 3RR warning that was ignored, followed by continuing to revert other editors, and eventually arguing that it must be because I am wrong. If there is an essay based on "Everyone else must be wrong because I'm always right" I'd very much like to read it. As for this report, I primarily wanted to nip the edit war in the bud which appears to have worked for now, given the talk page warning failed to achieve anything. I otherwise remain concerned about the general WP:NOTHERE based indicators; disruptive editing, battleground attitude, and lack of willingness to collaborate with other editors in a civil manner. CNC (talk) 23:55, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- We are likely to see Ergzay at ANI at some point. But as I was thinking of asking for 1RR early today; I'm fine with that decision. O3000, Ret. (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Good decision. I otherwise think a final warning for edit warring is appropriate, given the 3RR violation even excluding BLPREMOVE reverts (first 4 diffs to be specific). There's nothing else to drag out here given Ergzay intends to take a step back from the Musk article, and per above, there is always the ANI route for any future incidents. CNC (talk) 00:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CommunityNotesContributor My statement that you quoted there is because I'm a divisive person and people often don't like how I act on Misplaced Pages and the edits I make. People have dragged me to this place several times in the past over the years and I've always found it reasonably fair against people who are emotionally involved against dragging me down. That is why I said what I did. And as to the previous warning that you claim was me "not getting it", that was 3 reverts of the same material, and with a name 3RR the association is automatic. Edit: And I'll additionally add, I'm most certainly interested in building an accurate encyclopedia. Misplaced Pages at some point in the past lost its mind and has determined that truth seeking is not the ultimate goal, but simply regurgitating sources. I'm still very happy to use sources that exist and they should be used whenever possible, but in this modern day and age of heavily politicized and biased media, editors more than ever need to have wide open eyes and use rational thinking. Ergzay (talk) 09:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Misplaced Pages at some point in the past lost its mind and has determined that truth seeking is not the ultimate goal, but simply regurgitating sources" See WP:VNT. Daniel Case (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- And WP:KNOW, while you're at it. Daniel Case (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Use wide open eyes and use rational thinking (as defined by me)" seems to implicate Misplaced Pages:No original research, as well. MilesVorkosigan (talk) 23:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- And WP:KNOW, while you're at it. Daniel Case (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Misplaced Pages at some point in the past lost its mind and has determined that truth seeking is not the ultimate goal, but simply regurgitating sources" See WP:VNT. Daniel Case (talk) 19:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have decided, under CTOPS and mindful of the current situation regarding the article subject, a situation that I think we can agree is unlikely to change anytime soon and is just going to attract more contentious editing, that the best resolution here, given that some of Ergzay's reverts are concededly justified on BLP grounds and that he genuinely seems ignorant of the provision in 3RR that covers all edits (a provision that, since he still wants to know, is in response to certain battleground editors in the past who would keep reverting different material within the same 24 hours so as to comply with the letter, but not the spirit, of 3RR (In other words, another case of why we can't have nice things)) is to put the article under 1RR. It will be duly logged at CTOPS. Daniel Case (talk) 00:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
User:203.115.14.139 reported by User:Flat Out (Result: Semi-protected one week; IP range blocked two weeks)
Page: Paul Cézanne (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 203.115.14.139 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 06:52, 22 January 2025 (UTC) to 06:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 06:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
- 06:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC) ""
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 06:50, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Three revert rule */ new section"
- 07:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Notifying about edit warring noticeboard discussion."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
- This is straight-up vandalism. BusterD semi-protected the article for one week, and I've blocked Special:contributions/203.115.14.0/24 for two weeks.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:19, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
User:68.150.205.46 reported by User:Closed Limelike Curves (Result: Reported user had self-reverted before the report was made)
Page: Droop quota (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 68.150.205.46 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 08:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC) to 08:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 08:11, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1271015371 by 68.150.205.46 (talk)"
- 08:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1271015536 by 68.150.205.46 (talk)"
- 08:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1271014641 by 68.150.205.46 (talk)"
- 07:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC) "there is no consensus in talk. there is no government election today that uses your exact Droop. it is not what Droop says his quota was"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ reply to Quantling"
- 22:01, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ edit reply to Quantling"
- 22:04, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ addition"
- 22:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Inclusion of plus-one in Droop quota */ edit addition"
Comments:
User has been edit-warring for the past 9 months to try and reinsert incorrect information into the article, despite repeatedly having had this mistake corrected, and a consensus of 5 separate editors against these changes. Request page ban from Droop quota, Hare quota, electoral quota, and single transferable vote. – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 22:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Closed Limelike Curves, the user appears to have self-reverted less than an hour after their last edit warring continuation, and 14 hours before your report. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:41, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I missed that (I didn't notice the last edit was a self-revert). – Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 00:51, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- 68.150.205.46, thanks for self-reverting. Can you agree not to re-add the same material until a real consensus is found? An RfC could help. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 00:42, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Farshwal reported by User:AP 499D25 (Result: Blocked indefinitely)
Page: Tiwana family of Shahpur (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Farshwal (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: diff
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 10:20–10:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 10:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 13:59, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- 15:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: diff
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: diff (from User:Farshwal themselves)
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: diff
Comments:
Hi, I'm just an uninvolved third-party editor who came across this 3RR violation involving the change of "Parmar Rajputs" to "Jats" in the article lead sentence. The editor themself has made a post on the talk page as seen in the diff above, but they continued to edit-war without getting a consensus first at that talk page discussion. Also worth noting the editor had received a prior 7-day block in Sep 2024 for similar disruption, such as this, where they also made an edit changing something to "Jats". — AP 499D25 (talk) 09:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: In Special:Diff/1271043038 , they are using a slur against the Rajput caste by calling it "R***put" meaning "Son of Wh***", which is also the caste they are deliberately removing from the article. That in itself merits an indef.ArvindPalaskar (talk) 12:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked indefinitely.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:16, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
User:DoctorWhoFan91 reported by User:Tested account (Result: OP indeffed)
Page: Bhanot (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: DoctorWhoFan91 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Comment:Now what should I say, this reckless person has crossed all limits for three revert rule and spamming on user talk with thrustful comments , and he keeps bothering me repeatedly with the same fabricated nonsense. He keeps giving those mocking statements against me for commissioning an report and is persistently stuck on the same matter over and over again. I want him to be punished for his vile actions, and for the offensive things he has said in his statements, which had a bad influence on people. He is going to everyone’s talk pages
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:
Comments:
- I suspect a WP:BOOMERANG is coming here, but for now I'll say to OP, don't make personal attacks as you did here. Bafflingly, you linked to the NPA policy in the same edit summary. — Czello 11:11, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- The OP account has been reported to AIV by User:Ratnahastin with the suspicion that it's yet another sockpuppet account of User:Truthfindervert: diff. — AP 499D25 (talk) 11:14, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, kinda funny isn't it, a sockpuppet accusing others of edit-warring after move-vandalising. OP has been reported to AIV and SPI btw, so this will just led to them being blocked faster lol. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Could somone move the page back after OP is blocked, they have done it again. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah let's give the bots that fix the double-redirects a break and stop move-warring the page until the account is blocked. It's only gonna clutter the page histories and logs more and more, and the title the person is trying to move the page to isn't an unconstructive title anyway. — AP 499D25 (talk) 11:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, I got carried away trying to stop the bot. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sock, not bot, sorry. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, I got carried away trying to stop the bot. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah let's give the bots that fix the double-redirects a break and stop move-warring the page until the account is blocked. It's only gonna clutter the page histories and logs more and more, and the title the person is trying to move the page to isn't an unconstructive title anyway. — AP 499D25 (talk) 11:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Could somone move the page back after OP is blocked, they have done it again. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 11:18, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I will now direct any visiting mods to Tested account clearly edit warring, so yes, this should be a WP:BOOMERANG. I do not know this user but there are multiple accusations of this being an LTA sock. — Czello 11:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- The account is a suspected sock of Truthfindervert, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Summerbreakcooldown. Pinging @Ivanvector, Zzuuzz, and Izno:. - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I had said this before as well—you are the same people @Czello@DoctorWhoFan91 who want to manipulate the article in your own way and keep editing it to portray it in the same context of that past misunderstanding and conflict. So, I have nothing for you. You just keep putting in your efforts, but the consequences of your violative actions will come to you eventually. I have no answers for that, but when you are found guilty, you will have to deal with them on your own.
- This is my last reply, requesting administrative intervention as the accuser under the three-revert rule. Tested account (talk) 11:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- The account is a suspected sock of Truthfindervert, see Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Summerbreakcooldown. Pinging @Ivanvector, Zzuuzz, and Izno:. - Ratnahastin (talk) 11:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I have indefinitely blocked User:Tested account; almost certainly a sock but even if they aren't, they're being wildly disruptive and attacking others. Black Kite (talk) 11:36, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- The page has also been move-protected for 2 days following a request for move protection I made at RPP/I. — AP 499D25 (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)