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A belated welcome

Hi Sokoreq. A belated welcome to Misplaced Pages. I see you've been editing for a few years and I hope you don't mind if I share some of my thoughts on starting out as an editor on Misplaced Pages: If I could get editors in your situation to follow just one piece of advice, it would be this: Learn Misplaced Pages by working only on non-contentious topics until you have a feel for the normal editing process and the policies that usually come up when editing casually. You'll find editing to be fun, easy, and rewarding. The rare disputes are resolved quickly and easily in collaboration.

Working on biographical information about living persons is far more difficult. Misplaced Pages's Biographies of living persons policy requires strict adherence to multiple content policies, and applies to all information about living persons including talk pages.

If you have a relationship with the topics you want to edit, then you will need to review Misplaced Pages's Conflict of interest policy, which may require you to disclose your relationship and restrict your editing depending upon how you are affiliated with the subject matter. Regardless, editing in a manner that promotes an entity or viewpoint over others can appear to be detrimental to the purpose of Misplaced Pages and the neutrality required in articles.

Some topic areas within Misplaced Pages have special editing restrictions that apply to all editors. It's best to avoid these topics until you are extremely familiar with all relevant policies and guidelines.

If you work from reliable, independent sources, you shouldn't go far wrong. WP:RSP and WP:RSN are helpful in determining if a source is reliable.

If you find yourself in a disagreement with another editor, it's best to discuss the matter on the relevant talk page.

I hope you find some useful information in all this, and welcome again. --Hipal (talk) 17:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you Hipal Sokoreq (talk) 17:47, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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@Hipal May I know why you are reverting my constructive edits, even though I have not added or deleted anything? Are you working with the organization and maintaining that article? If so, please disclose any conflicts of interest you may have. If you have any issues with my edits, please discuss them with me before reverting them again and again. Sokoreq (talk) 18:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for starting a discussion on the matter.

I believe my edit summaries give some insight into why, but to clarify and go into further detail:

You have both deleted and added content.

You deleted content without explanation.

You added an unreliable source.

You reorganized the content in a way that changes the emphasis, de-emphasizing the overall context.

You duplicated references for some unknown reason.

My apologies, but I'll have little time over the next week or so to address this promptly. --Hipal (talk) 18:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

@Hipal Thanks, for your explanation, but I disagree with your repeated reverts of my edits. I aimed to create a criticism section to simplify the article. This behavior suggests you may have a personal connection to the subject or feel ownership over the article. I only agree that Newsweek (pre-2013) was a reliable source, but articles after 2013 are generally not. I missed checking the source date.

but I hope you understand basics, that creating a new section or making minor formating edits doesn't change the overall context. Be WP:Bold but don't harass other editor through reverting there contrctive edits repeatedly, because your doesn't own the article.

Please reread WP:OWN "No one, no matter what, has the right to act as though they are the owner of a particular article (or any part of it)" Sokoreq (talk) 10:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Please stop

Your recent editing history at Science of Identity Foundation shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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• And regarding this edit: where do you see any occurrences of harassment at the article in question? —C.Fred (talk) 18:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  @C.Fred When someone reverts your edits repeatedly without explanation, it is frustrating and not a joyful experience, because editing an article takes effort, and this behavior from the editor seems strange! and an act of harassment. Sokoreq (talk) 19:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  @C.Fred May I know your reason for reverting my edit.? I didn't understand your edit summary. Kindly be specific so that I can improve myself for next time. Sokoreq (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  You initiated the change, so I reverted back to the version before your change. —C.Fred (talk) 21:10, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  Is that the reason? Sokoreq (talk) 21:21, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

  Yes. Please re-read WP:BRD for how you should have been proceeding, instead of edit warring. —C.Fred (talk) 22:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

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