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whats up just wanted to see waht was going on!! Whats your email ? reply to jiggulad@yahoo.com <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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A discussion in which you are mentioned is currently under way ]. This is a courtesy notice. --]] 09:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
:Hum? Did find nothing there. Am I late or something? ] (]) 22:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yep, late. It's at ] now. --]] 23:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
:::Gosh, this sh*t again... Thanks. ] (]) 23:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
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:Thanks. No need to, the link is now gone (was said to be a false positive but it's not needed anyway). ] (]) 02:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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:About what. There's not even a subject yet. ] (]) 22:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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== CSI ] ==

Hi, I am going to collect evidence for the Scientology RFAR as an ]. I want to point out that I am not the wiki-police nor do I have any kind of official role.

On ] you talk about an overwhelming need for an arbcom case. What do you feel the past arbcom case was not able to address?

You state that there will be no peace ever as long as the discrimination continues. Can you specify what you mean by that?


To what extent are you involved with the Scientology dispute? Have you made any significant contribution to Scientology related topics?
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:-} ] 04:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)


:Tku! ] 04:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC) --<small> ]</small> <sup>]</sup> 18:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::Who be dancin? ] 17:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
:::We be dancin! ] 17:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Woo hoo! people are the funniest animals. I've been around ''responsible'' people for so long, I had forgotten what it was like to work with people who don't know what ''Personal Responsibility'' is and don't realize that they are responsible for everything that happens as a result of their choices. ;)
::::Its interesting to watch some here that have to be right''eous''. Maybe that should be an axiom for wiki: Its more about being right than getting along and writing a good article.
::::Its good to see you back. ] 17:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
nicely put. ] 18:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
: tku ] 18:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)


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yep. I saw it too. He clearly went to a Landmark course, thats obvious. ] 06:20, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


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*Please do not disrupt Misplaced Pages to make a point, ], as you did here: This is highly inappropriate. Sarcasm is not conducive to constructive dialogue. Thanks. ] 05:30, 2 May 2007 (UTC).
3O:I see no violation of WP:POINT in this citation. In my opinion the warning can be removed. ] 06:00, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
*Sarcastic comments to make a point which disrupt constructive discussion. ] 06:05, 2 May 2007 (UTC).
:*''Sarcastic'' / ''Sarcasm'' are never mentioned in WP:POINT. My opinion stands. ] 06:12, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
::*It is "a disruption of the project to make a point", and thus a violation of ]. ] 06:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC).
:::], no intent to be mean about your heavy work on this template business. ] 16:56, 2 May 2007 (UTC)


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Assuming that the expression "smiling snakes" means every editor who had a different viewpoint than the person/people editing from "that proxy", I consider it a personal attack and ask you to use a more moderate language. While I can't speak for others, I can reveal to you that I didn't open the Champagne bottle after learning of the sock-block. I just took notice of it and went on with my work. --] 17:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
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::That is very nice of you. Why the h... then do you feel affected by "smiling snakes"? Don't need to be you. Could be those stabbing my back during the last week. Could be those wasting my time on talk pages during the last week with "smiling snake babble". How'd you now? It's more a class of people y'know. ] 05:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


Any editor who is subject to remedies in this proceeding, or who wishes to edit from an open proxy, is restricted to a single current or future account to edit Scientology-related topics and may not contribute to the topic as anonymous IP editors. Editors topic banned by remedies in this proceeding are prohibited (i) from editing articles related to Scientology or Scientologists, broadly defined, as well as the respective article talk pages and (ii) from participating in any Misplaced Pages process relating to those articles. Editors topic banned above may apply to have the topic ban lifted after demonstrating their commitment to the goals of Misplaced Pages and their ability to work constructively with other editors. Applications will be considered no earlier than six months after the close of this case, and additional reviews will be done no more frequently than every six months thereafter.
:::I consider myself and other editors to be human beings. Calling humans "smiling snakes" denies them any humanity. --] 06:13, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
::::Indeed. Personally I think smiling snakes are cute.. However, would you be so kind as to post an NPA on Anynobody's page on my behalf, as he wrongly accused me of being a SOCK. I'd have to say that pretty much denied me of more than humanity, it denied me of life itself and my very existence! And per your definition, it was NPA NPA NPA.. go warn him. You know you want to. ] 06:16, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


Any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, ban any editor from editing within the Scientology topic. Prior to topic banning the editor, the administrator will leave a message on the editor's talk page, linking to this paragraph, warning the editor that a topic ban is contemplated and outlining the behaviours for which it is contemplated. If the editor fails to heed the warning, the editor may be topic banned, initially, for three months, then with additional topic bans increasing in duration to a maximum of one year. Any editor who, in the judgment of an uninvolved administrator, is (i) focused primarily on Scientology or Scientologists and (ii) clearly engaged in promoting an identifiable agenda may be topic-banned for up to one year.
:Mr Tilman, ] would suggest that you assume it was '''not''' a personal attack. Furthermore, you were not even mentioned in the comment. Issuing spurious and frivolous NPA warnings is disruptive and distracting. Stop taking things so personally. It's not always about '''you''' and its not always an attack. ] 19:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


All IP addresses owned or operated by the Church of Scientology and its associates, broadly interpreted, are to be blocked as if they were open proxies. Any current or future editor who, after this decision is announced, makes substantial edits to any Scientology-related articles or discussions on any page is directed to edit on these from only a single user account, which shall be the user's sole or main account, unless the user has previously sought and obtained permission from the Arbitration Committee to operate a legitimate second account. They shall edit in accordance to Misplaced Pages policies and refrain from advocacy, to disclose on the relevant talk pages any circumstances (but not including personal identifying information) that constitute or may reasonably be perceived as constituting a conflict of interest with respect to that page, and not through a proxy configuration.
::If it isn't meant against me, then Misou will certainly clarify this. But even if it was against other people, it is still a personal attack. --] 19:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)


- ''For the Arbitration Committee'', ] 01:31, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
:::Making such an assumption and posting an NPA warning is not a good example of ]. If it were personal, I'm sure that you (or someone) would have been mentioned directly. Misou should not be required (or even requested) to explain or clarify what he ''didn't'' mean in something he wrote to another user. You should ] and stop creating conflict where none exists. ] 19:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::::One does not have to be the target of an insult to warn a user of a ] violation. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 19:27, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::], thank you for pointing out that perspective. I did read it as if Tilman was complaining on his own behalf. You are correct that it could also be interpreted more broadly. ] 19:44, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::Indeed. And a personal attack would be an attack on against an individual, yes? If not, I would think that the charge should be more in line with ]. Mr Tilman seemed to indicate that he took it personally and thus that he was filing the WP:NPA on his own behalf.
:::::I suppose we're off into semantics now. My reply was based on Mr Tilman clearly stating that he ''made assumptions'' (in bad faith) that the comments were a personal attack. I believe that WP:AGF is fairly clear, that when in doubt, assume the ''best'' not the ''worst'' and that was my point. ] 19:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::] is often, erroneously, interpreted as "stick your head in the sand and always assume good faith no matter what the evidence actually suggests". Given Misou's history of warnings for civility infractions (including a week-long block by yours truly), it requires no stretch of the imagination that his intent behind the statement was less than wholesome. ] <span style="color: #999;">// ] // ] //</span> 19:49, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
:::::::As I said on your page, I will not defend uncivilized comments. I also believe it is too easy to ''create a history of warnings'' where ''serious'' violations didn't actually exist.
:::::::I believe that Misou takes Tilman's edits too personally. I believe that Misou responds verbally from emotion, rather than mentally. I believe that Misou gets a bit overly colorful in some of his responses. And, I also have seen Mr Tilman repeatedly insert irrelevant and prejudicial anti-CoS information into articles. I believe that Mr Tilman has acknowledged his disdain for CoS and appears to me that he is making it a personal mission to make sure that negative views of Scientology are well documented on wikipedia.
:::::::], if I were to post 10 NPA warnings on your page, would that make you a WPA abuser? Of course not. If I were to get 10 other editors to each post 1 NPA warning on your page, would that make you a WPA abuser? Of course not.
:::::::Misou is not innocent, '''and''' neither is Mr Tilman.
:::::::They should both stick to writing articles and stop poking the nest. ] 20:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Is ok, Daddy! ] 05:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hi there!

Please feel free to discuss all kinds of things here, as long as the Talk page of an article is not the better choice. Misou whats up just wanted to see waht was going on!! Whats your email ? reply to jiggulad@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.196.88.45 (talk) 22:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What's up? Misou (talk) 23:45, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Dianetics: The Original Thesis

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AfD nomination of Dianetics: The Original Thesis

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Incident notice

A discussion in which you are mentioned is currently under way here. This is a courtesy notice. --GoodDamon 09:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Hum? Did find nothing there. Am I late or something? Misou (talk) 22:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Yep, late. It's at WP:AE now. --GoodDamon 23:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
Gosh, this sh*t again... Thanks. Misou (talk) 23:25, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

L. Ron Hubbard

FYI, you've made three reverts within the last 2 hours or so ( ). Another revert in the next 24 hours will place you in violation of the three revert rule. Best, - auburnpilot talk 01:11, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. No need to, the link is now gone (was said to be a false positive but it's not needed anyway). Misou (talk) 02:13, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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I've opened a request for arbitration and listed you as a named party. You may wish to make a statement. Best wishes, Durova 18:29, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

About what. There's not even a subject yet. Misou (talk) 22:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

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On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Daniel (talk) 04:20, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

CSI WP:RFAR/Scientology

Hi, I am going to collect evidence for the Scientology RFAR as an independent third party. I want to point out that I am not the wiki-police nor do I have any kind of official role.

On your statement you talk about an overwhelming need for an arbcom case. What do you feel the past arbcom case was not able to address?

You state that there will be no peace ever as long as the discrimination continues. Can you specify what you mean by that?

To what extent are you involved with the Scientology dispute? Have you made any significant contribution to Scientology related topics?

-- Cat 18:33, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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