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			The result of the move request was: '''not moved'''. ] (]) 11:44, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
	== ''Trials and Tribulations'' and "QWERTY" ==
	The name of the new CD has no where been confirmed to be ''Trials and Tribulations'', that was just what the interviewer guessed, so people need to stop putting that it is the official title. Also "QWERTY" has not been confirmed as "Lies", "Behind Your Lies", or anything else, as far as I know of. It may not even be on the final cut of the album, so until someone can link a source that says otherwise, "QWERTY" is still "QWERTY".], 9 December(UTC)

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	:"QWERTY" is "QWERTY", and it will not be on the album --] 14:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

			] → {{no redirect\|1=Minutes To Midnight (album)}} – Currently, the title is ''Minutes to Midnight (album)'', but when reading the booklet that comes with the album, it is stylized as ''Minutes To Midnight'' with the "t" of "to" being capitalized. I know this is a minor change, but this is the capitalization that the band used in the booklet that came with the album. ] (]) 07:42, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
	Not on the album? WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! They gotta reconsider that! ] 20:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

			*'''Oppose'''. ] does not make allowance for how the artist styled it; it says that ''to'' and other short prepositions should be lowercase. —''']''' (]) 23:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
	:Umm, what I heard is that the new album title is called ''The Morning After'' but that could be false. I just got a new single called "Giving In" and its from Linkin Park, so im really not sure. (] 00:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC))

			*'''Oppose.''' I agree with C.Fred. Misplaced Pages has clear style guidelines in this area. See also ] and ]. <span style="color:blue;"><big>N</big><small>oetica</small></span><sup><small>]</small></sup> 00:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
	"The Morning After" is the title of a song that Chester performed in 2001 and is not going to be the name of the album. "Giving In" is a song by Adema and has been mistakingly credited as Linkin Park for years. --] 06:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
			*'''Oppose''' per Noetica and C.Fred. ] (]) 20:21, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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			== Why does T and T redirect here? ==
	:"Giving In" features Chester on vocals ]

			I was looking for the old Mr. T tv show of that name...22:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	SayCheese, the title of the album could be ''The Morning After''. But no one has confirmed nor denied it. It remains a possibility. It is a song of Chester's, but so many albums have names that also the name is from a song.] 22:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

			:Checking links to see which one points here. Try ] for the dab page, which has an explanation for the link here and now has a link to '']''. —''']''' (]) 22:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
	:It could be ''The Morning After'', it could be anything. However, it is highly doubtful that ''The Morning After'' is going to be the album name since 1) As I said before, it is already a name of a song that Chester wrote which is also notably not a Linkin Park song because only Chester wrote and performed it and 2) "The Morning After" has been confirmed as a song on Chester's solo album. --] 22:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

			:And retargeted ] to the dab page. —''']''' (]) 22:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
	Funny how instead of ''Trials and Tribulations'' (T and T) its ''Minutes to Midnight'' (M to M). -- ] 04:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

			== Genre ==
	:Or they think something like : ''Minu<b>T</b>es to Midnigh<b>T</b>'' <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 09:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

			Maybe I'll say that I am fan of the ATS era of the band at the beginning.
	QWERTY is actually part of the linkin park underground albums. erm LPU 0.6 i think, and therefore it has already been released, hence the reason it came out like 6 months ago. And QWERTY is the same as LP's old sound (wich in my opinion was very good, and should really be changed) but yer the single What i've done is very good, and hopefully the rest fo the album will be like it. --] 12:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)Phill
			Honestly I don't understand why there is such a big deal with naming the record "pop rock". It is pretty obvious that there are pop rock songs on the album - In Between, Valentine's Day and Leave Out All The Rest. So why people are still changing it to alternative metal or nu metal? NU METAL? One reason, please. There is one metal song on the album - No More Sorrow - heavy guitar riff, marching percussion and screaming, no doubt about it. But it's just one song. Yeah, Given Up and Bleed It Out also contain heavy vocals, but the first in more punk/grunge with it's main riff, while the latter is a synthesis of rap rock and funk.
			Still, even if we count NMS, BIO and GU as metal songs, there are 3 metal songs and 3 pop rock songs on the record (the rest being alternative rock). So why can't we just agree with the fact that LP has recorded some of these on MTM and put the genre into the info-box? I know that there are some die-hard Hybrid Theory and Meteora fans out there who just can't accept that LP don't play nu metal anymore, but wikipedia shouldn't lie only because of that. Right now someone not knowing the band could think that Minutes... is just another Meteora-like record, and that's pretty unfair.
			Thank you and sorry for terrible english. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			== Redirection of "No More sorrow" ==
	:um ur almost right, bout 99% its LPU 6.0

			The rederection of the song "No More Sorrow" should be changed to the page ] instead of this page. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	== ''T and T'' ==
			* Absolutely not. The article name "No More Sorrow (Linkin Park)" will not replace "No More Sorrow" because almost every song on this website doesn't have the term "(Linkin Park song)" next to a song title unless if it's completely necessary. So therefore, it's not going to happen. I'm sorry. ] (]) 05:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
	Was it really necessary to change the article to ''T and T''? It would be more appropriate to keep it as ''Linkin Park's third studio album'' and then when the entire title is released change it to the name. --] 02:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

			==Assessment comment==
	:I'd rather propose to cancel this article. Maybe their third studio album will be never released. --] 11:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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			{{y}} All the start class criteria<br/>
			{{y}} A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details<br/>
			{{y}} At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)<br/>
			{{y}} A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs<br/>
			{{y}} A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians<br/>
			{{y}} Categorisation at least by artist and year<br/>
			{{y}} A casual reader should learn something about the album.] (]) 20:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)}}
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			== Requested move 26 March 2017 ==
	u_u ... now someone changed the start of the article to read "''T_____ and T________'' is an upcoming album by Linkin Park. The record, whose title is currently provvisory, is set for a February 2007 release."--] 20:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
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			The result of the move request was: '''PAGE MOVED.'''<small>(])</small> ] (]) 12:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
	:And now you see why we don't change an album article's title until the title is confirmed. ''T and T'' isn't even close to ''Minutes to Midnight''. ''']]]]]''' 22:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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	This talk page is whack, who said "QWERTY" isn't gonna be on the album, they never confirmed or denied it.
	And of course the albums gonna be released....unless they all die... ] 02:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

			] → {{no redirect\|Minutes to Midnight (Linkin Park album)}} – Per ], as ] exists. Possibly uncontrovertial but as LP's album is ''way'' popular and notable than JE's, a RM might be needed. ] ]<sup>]</sup> (]). 06:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
	:"QWERTY" is not going to be on the album. "The six-track EP features two songs from the band's current studio session for their upcoming album and some unreleased live tracks. "Over the last year we have written so many new songs and really wanted to give some of the early ideas to our hardcore fans that '''will not be on the new album'''," said LP's Rob Bourdon. "Other tracks include a live version of an old track from back when our band was called XERO, and some special live tracks we played at the Japan shows this past August." --] 11:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
			*'''Support''' Yeah I also don't see a problem here. '''''<small>]]]</small>''''' 07:05, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
			*'''Support'''. The current title is incomplete disambiguation. --] <small>] • (])</small> 15:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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			== Removal of alternative metal? ==
	OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO told! ] 01:04, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

			Should alternative metal stay? There's no sourced genre in the infobox and there's only two songs there even close to metal, Given Up and No More Sorrow. I don't think it should stay as just alt rock though... Any other thoughts? --] (]) 15:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
	== Release date ==
	What happened to the February 20, 2007 release date? Was it not true?--] 17:55, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

			== In that movie Inglourious Basterds they say there is a hand sign ==
	:Linkin Park's third studio album is set for a April 2007 release. The vocals have been confirmed as completed and the album will be 100% and in the bands hands sometime in January. A video will be filmed shortly after and the video will hit the airwaves in February. The title has yet to be announced.

			Actually, within the Federal Republic of Germany the alphabetical numbering is considered a crime vs §130 StGB.
	OFFICIAL <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 16:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

			888 ist somewhere beyond Heil Hitler ( which is just 88 ) <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 11:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Please don't edit the page with that information until you have a website source which proves it. As of right now, the band has only said that they are almost done with vocals and that the album will be released in the spring. --] 19:48, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
			== "]" listed at ] ==

			]
	No it wasn't true. March/April seems to be the most likely date, but knowing Linkin Park, it probably won't come out until June/July. They did that to us with Collision Course. Supposed to come out in Autumn (Fall for you Yanks), came out beginning of December. ] 11:45, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
			The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink\|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 27#Linkin park 3}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- from Template:RFDNote --> Sincerely, ]. <sup>Tools:</sup> (], ]) 17:22, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

	:Who added June 26, 2007 as the release date, and whoever it is, please provide proof from a reliable source. ''']]]]]''' 01:07, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	:Uh, since when did "us Yanks" not understand what 'Autumn' meant? I mean sure, I'd wager it's not used ''as'' often as 'Fall' here, but it's still a VERY common word. --] 04:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

	June 26th is speculation that carried over from the LPU and should not be on this article.--] 02:08, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	:LPfuse says on the LPU newsletter that the album will be released on the 15th for the USA and the 14th to everyone eles? (] 20:17, 6 March 2007 (UTC))

	=== Summer release ===
	Is there really any link or evidence that the album is going to be released in the summer? In the LPU chat Rob said that it would be released '''by''' the summertime and that is the only reference I've seen to summer. Unless there is some sort of source I think it needs to be changed to what it was before, and that is spring. --] 20:29, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

	:I'm ticked now first they say Summer 06 then Fall 06 then Febuary 07 then March and now Summer. Just pick 18 songs and put the rest in under ground CD's.] 23:10, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

	It'll be released in the summer see, Linkin Park: "They really are reinventing themselves," Rubin said of the band, mixing now for a summer release. "It doesn't sound like rap-rock. There's very strong songwriting. I've heard guys in the band say that it transcends everything they've done before, like it puts them in a whole different light in their minds, and they really like that. It's very melodic. It's a progressive record."
	<nowiki></nowiki>] 04:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC) Utopian12

	:Some articles say summer, some say spring. It's only definite once the band actually sets a date. --] 04:38, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

	Don't you wanna understand that their third studio album will be NEVER released? The truth is that they won't release another record until they disbanded. Rick Rubin probably knows it. --] 21:35, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

	:What were you saying? -- ] 04:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

	Now I wish this wasn't a lie. --] 22:32, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

	:Now I wish this ''was'' a lie. ] 21:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	=== Release date pattern? ===
	What is this supposed to be? Does anyone object to deleting this section? It seems like complete original research to me, not to mention you can't determine patterns from just two dates. ] 22:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

	:How about putting an infamous ''TBA''? ] 23:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

	I'm just gonna delete the section. A release date hasn't been announced. The section is unencyclopedic and original research anyway. ] 04:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

	:It has been officially announced as 14th May outside the USA and Canada, and the 15th May in USA and Canada.--]] 19:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

	=== Release Date Changes? ===
	Since when is this coming out in EU on the 11th and AU on the 12th? Source or it's getting changed back to the 14th. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 12:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:The Herald Sun in Australia first reported the release date, or so i believe. This date is also backed up by Australian retail websites such as www.sainity.com.au which all list the release as the 12th. - D.Kelly, Melbourne, AU ] 15:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

	LP's official site has a countdown timer & release dates, as does their MySpace. so unless that changes, don't trust some random paper, store, or site. ] 21:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

	:LP's timer counts down to the official North American release date. If the album is in fact being imported to other countries prior to May 14 then that isn't information that should be completely disregarded. ] 05:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

	Sainity and JB hi-fi are not random stores, they are the largest entertainment stores in Australia. And the Herald sun is one of two major papers in Melbourne with quite a large readership. Not meaning to argue but you did ask for sources. And to put 4 different countdowns on the likin park site would be ridiculous and over-cluttered. Also, the Australian iTunes has listed the release date as 12th of May and the promo material contains the date as the 12th of May. Sourced enough? - D.Kelly, melbourne, AU ] 07:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Track listing ==
	=== Working Titles ===
	Uhh, duz working titles mean working album names or working track namez, thanx - ]

	:Track names ] 22:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

	Thanx man :) - ]

	=== Song listing wrong? ===
	what are some of the new song names?
	in the club, wangsta, nuthin' but a g thang. -joe

	:This is one of the questions answered by the band to one of the questioners in the talk to the band thing.

	So isn't the confirmed track listing
	In the Club
	Wangsta
	Nuthin' but a g thang?
	--] 14:02, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Sarcasm is golden. Expecially to Joe Hahn. ''']]]''' 23:59, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

	Ye, even i checked it out...... the listing in wikipedia is wrong........ in one of the questions they also replied that the band' fav song is the little things give you away and bleed it out...... so this brings the confirmed track listing to 5.......... and do you guys really think LP will write a song "Valentine's Day", sure the sun will rise in the west if that happens, no matter how much the band changes. --] 15:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Do you think LP would write a song called "My December"? Oh wait they fucking did. The track listing is not wrong. Source , Source , Source , Source , Source , Source , Source , Source , Source , and Source . Don't say stupid shit, if it wasn't sourced it wouldn't appear on Misplaced Pages. And on a side note, "In Da Club" and "Wanksta" are ] songs and "Nuthin' But A "G" Thang" is a ] song. ] 16:26, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	Hey tizzi chill..... i have no information about their songs........ buh i think i belierve you now... cool yer temper.--] 14:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Just saying 0:) ] 15:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

	=== Title track? ===
	Where is it confirmed that the band recorded a title track called "Minutes to Midnight", and that it's an iTunes Pre-Order exclusive? I can understand why they could have pre-order exclusive tracks since it's nothing new, but for a title track to be one of them? It should have been on the album if it exists at all. ] 16:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
	: No it wasn't. No one knows what the pre-order exclusives are. --] 17:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	Sumone edited the 14th track as mtm, i dunno, is it true?--] 03:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Album cover ==
	Why is the new logo serving as the album cover? There's been no confirmation of it. ''']]]]]''' 18:46, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

	:This is true which is why I'm going to take it off. It seems that people are getting ahead of themselves and can't wait for an actual cover to be released. --] 18:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

	slaps self* Now, why is the splash page serving as the album cover? It's quite likely but it's not confirmed, and Misplaced Pages is not a crystal ball. ''']]]''' 16:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Found this picture on the Warner Bros Record website an hour ago but as now been taken down so I'm guessing it is fake or just someone who runs the website messing about.
	:http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8807/warnermtmltdty7.jpg

	Look at the bands default myspace photo - a minutes to midnight album cover! use it! ] 18:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

	:k, we've got the official album cover. No changing it. Unusually simple for LP. ''']]]''' 19:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

	It may be simple but it's the first album (I don't know about ''Live in Texas'') that the whole band is featured on the cover. It's a nice image. that's all I got. I guess when the Actual album comes out we can explain about the "Visual" aspect of the album.-] 11:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Leak (real) ==
	Just lettin ya all know. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 09:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:Wow, this early? ] 12:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	Are we sure it's actually the real thing? I could tell if I listened to it, but I'm at school. I'm confirm when I get home. ] 12:58, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Yeah it's real, and 69.143.159.10, it isn't that early. the album's out in 10 days (7 if you live in Australia or some place like that). Look at it this way, Manson's album leaked on May 1 and it doesn't come out until June 5 (a whopping 35 days) lol. ] 13:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	its real and its sweet, but if your at school shouldnt you do school work, i cant do this at school, block counts it as forum ] 00:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	=== Leak and Official Time Information. ===
	What I did was put the leak info under the release info and The TIME IS CORRECT ACCORDING TO MY CD PLAYER. NOTE: WHEN I BURN CDs I HAVE NO GAP IN BETWEEN THE SONGS. So I guess that would be the official time of the CD.
	- ] 22:21, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	:People who keep changing the time of the album need a back up of what they have of the time. Once again as I stated my CD has no gaps in between the tracks so the OFFICIAL TIME is 43:57 on the album PLEASE STOP CHANGING IT!

	:- ] 23:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	In iTunes it's 43:51.] 00:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:omg 6 seconds, dear lord, some silence at the begining of the tracks, perhaps hmmmmm dunno just wanted to be included ] 00:26, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	43:51 is right. Shouldn't the info be right? There's no way for iTunes to be wrong about that.] 00:31, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:now that it leaked for real all that clutter is just waste ] 01:00, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	Ok. I really can't translate the .xx that iTunes gives. Also i know it's not in this area but how is given up the next single and does anyone have proof of it?
	- ] 13:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:OK I'm defiantly not changing the time, if you're changing the time then what you have is FAKE! The Leak's time is 43:57 and iTunes time is 43:51 so that's what the values should be. If you change the time please discuss it first and leave a note of proof where you got the time. Also whoever removed "Given Up" as a single you get "PROPS" from me. - ] 15:27, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Semi-protection ==
	Whoever semi-protected the article just did a HUGE favor to the active contributors of this page who actually don't add crap. Thanks! ] 22:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

	:On a similar note, to whoever CAN edit the article should take out a bit of the fine print at the bottom of the tracklisting, as it has basically been confirmed on LP's official Pre-Order page at Bandmerch.com. Source: http://bandmerch.com/java2/BandMerch/linkinparkexclusive/?referrer=&content=/store/css5/ProductPage.jsp&product=2887 - Anonymous

	On the tracklisting, a user with the authority to edit the article added this
	"This track listing is, as of yet, unconfirmed by the band themselves."

	:Can anybody who has the power to edit the page remove that sentence please? That tracklisting is the one that appeared on US iTunes store (I don't think they'd screw that up) and the link at the top (http://lptimes.com/news2007/april/news04042007.html), is an extract from Kerrang with the band members discussing these tracks. So, it's pretty fair to say that the tracks HAVE indeed been confirmed by the band members themselves. Please edit.

	I don't understand why whoever it was added that it was unconfirmed, but I've removed it. Thanks for noticing. ] 00:06, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

	:i requested the protection because of the repeated street team referral links; why did you revert the itunes bonus tracks and the passive phrasing for where you could read the descriptions of the tracks? it seems to fit better with the rest of wp as passive, rather than by somewhat breaking the ]. Impasse 03:36, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

	That's a good point. I've tweaked the text above the tracks where the link to descriptions is provided so that it represents the neutrality of Misplaced Pages. As for the placing mention of the iTunes bonus tracks in small text under the track listing? The titles haven't been revealed yet so there's no use in adding it directly to the track list. When the titles have been revealed they can be combined to the track list (also when a valuable source is provided, seeing as how people thought it would be funny to vandalize the bonus track titles, when the 2 tracks were directly part of the track listing). ] 06:09, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

	:For that matter, I added a citation needed tag to that little tid-bit. Also, can someone tell me what is the importance of April 19th, 2007? If there is no significant importance of this date, then why not extend it till say... between May 8th and May 14th? ] 17:38, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

	== Sound ==
	To the people who have the leak, do you find the sound disappointing or refreshing? i love it, its not better or worse, just different. ]

	:It's different but in a good way. I haven't been able to cut it off. I think some tracks are stinkers... but for the most part an overall good album. I personally think meteora was their best work. also if you want to say something "personal" please make a statement about the article. Like... This album sounds different than their last maybe we should say something about it.-] 11:01, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Do one thing.......... listen to the album thrice and you will be encaptivated forever, some tracks are better than even numb and in the end............--] 12:37, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:In my honest opinion, this is their best album. They really matured, they couldn't have manipulated their old sound in any other way. The song Shadow of the Day is what I see as a formal goodbye to their old sound. I like this album so much, and I'm a die hard LP fan..--] 02:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	yea i agree, i LOVE Leave out all the rest, i couldnt help but think of when goku died in dbz in cell saga when it was playing. great song, and bleed it out is fuckin sweet to, very upbeat, with a bit of downer lyrics ]

	:Not to be rash, but Misplaced Pages isn't a forum for personal discussions. Rather, you should go to my Facebook group and discuss it there. I made a ''Eat Me, Drink Me'' one a while back and so last night I made this one. Looking for more potential members and since everyone is prone to bombard Wiki with their takes on the album, maybe I can herd a people there as well :P ] 18:43, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	=== Parental Advisory ===
	Nice to see this, not because I wanna hear them swear all the time but because when you listen to there albums and then hear them live its like two different bands, there albums make them too child friendly and P.C but live you hear the true them, so I'm glad this album is getting away from the friendly radio and Mtv style bullshit. ] 7 April 2007

	:Misplaced Pages is not a forum. ] 23:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

	Crack that whip, mr. 68.13.147.241. :p ] 20:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

	:I don't see a tag on the cover. Why would they just start cursing now and not since the beginning? Is this one of the changes they're talking about?--<span style="font-family:Tahoma;">] ]</span> 22:18, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

	There's other variants of the album cover that feature the Parental Advisory sticker. Some albums that feature heavy profanity don't even have the sticker (]'s '']'' record is a perfect example). Linkin Park did in fact feature explicit lyrics in the beginning (''Xero'' and ''Hybrid Theory EP'' respectively) but upon the release of their first major label debut they didn't feature any, probably to appeal to more audiences. "High Voltage" (which features profanity) was initially track 10 on ''Hybrid Theory'', but the band removed it before the release. The song can still be found as a bonus track on the Japan import edition of the record. Chester and Mike aren't shy to swearing during live performances either, on ''Live In Texas'' one of the vocalists (I can't remember which it was) swore while conversing with the crowd; this was semi-edited but one can make this out (It might have been while introducing "P5HNG ME A*WY" but again I really don't remember). ] 22:40, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

	:As previously mentioned, High Voltage features profanity. Also, in Live Performances, expample song being: "Place for My Head" in which at the end, Chester adds "Mother Fucker" at the end. In addition, Right before closing, Mike informed Dallas that they "are the shit" and are "fucking amazing". ] 02:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	As the sticker was clearly visible in the previous image displayed and the commercial albums prior to the subject can be verified to not display those stickers, I'm going to remove the "citation needed" tag on the reasonably simple-to-deduce factoid. ] 09:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

	:who really gives a shit about swearing, anyway? ] 17:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

	The PTC (Whom for professionalism reasons, I'll keep my opinion to my self on). Just ask Rage Against The Machine... ] 02:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	:The PA sticker could be on the back, like Collision Course. ] 20:42, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

	Yeah but ''Collision Course'' was a DVD so it's already arbitrary from the format of common albums. It doesn't matter where the PA sticker is situated anyways, the discussion is as to why this record could possibly be parental advisory as a first for Linkin Park. ] 21:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
	:Is it PA'd simply for swearing, or is it for other types of explicit lyrics? ]]]] 00:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

	It's PA'd strictly for swearing so far from what information is out. ] 02:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

	:That's good; I just can't seem to bring myself to imagine LP singing (and/or rapping) about those other forms of explicity. As well, that will make it easier to talk my parents into letting me buy it. Cheers!! :) ] 23:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Sorry, forgot to sign in before making that last comment. Cheers!!!! :) ]]]] 23:28, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

	Well "Given Up" is a song that can be interpreted as being about suicide (given the intensity of the content of the track), but that's just one interpretation. Knowing the direction of this record, this theme can be seen as part of a "bigger picture" in the sense of "starting over" per se. I guess to the RIAA it doesn't matter. If a song sounds like it's interpretation is of negative concept, it's explicit all the same. Knowing LP there will be an edited version to appeal to the "cleaner" audiences like the standard versions of their prior studio albums though. ] 02:59, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Why should this album receive a Parental Advisory (PA)? I mean there's not that much cussing/swearing. Maybe it's another RIAA mistake. Or just a ploy to get the album in more hands of younger people. iTunes has a clean Version on Pre-Order and you still get the exclusive tracks. - ] 14:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	The fact that there is any swearing is probably enough. Or maybe you're right, there is some kind of massive conspiracy. ] 14:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:OK, I've checked ] and they don't say it has a PA, yet the ] claims that it does. So we'll have to wait and see what happens.

	What are you talking about? There's nothing to wait for, we've all heard the leak and know for a fact that this is a parental advisory album. ] 04:23, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	:i heard a clip of ''Given Up'' on a page of their and it uses the f-word. so swearing is definitely there. just wait and don't speculate about any other types of explicit lyrics.
	:also, there's an advisory sticker on a Best Buy preorder site, on the . ] 04:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	I'll say it again. <big>We have all heard the leak</big>. Maybe not "ALL" but as I can see, the vast majority of us did. We happen to know for a fact each and every track that features profanity. There is nothing to wait for. iTunes exclusives? Even they are not album tracks. Geez. ] 16:38, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	=== METALCORE? ===
	This isn't even close at all...sounds very pop rock and stuff. Remove that genre now. ] 18:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Actually, the song Given Up could be considered a metalcore song, but as it is only one song out of 12, I don't think it should be listed as a genre for the album.
	:] 21:53, 4 May 2007

	Basically, whatever Linkin Park has been, that's what this album is NOT. Disappointing.] 02:06, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
	True there is only one song that can be tagged as metalcore yet the other songs are typical Alternative Rock (excluding NO more sorrow, Given up and Bleed it out) NOT pop rock. BTW this is their best work yet you must be really dull to think its "disapointing"

	:EHEM, it's NOT their best work, Meteora is their best work.] 13:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	I agree with Tonich03, this album isn't Linkin Park's best work, not to undermine the album because it isn't a bad record at all. Personally I am one of the disappointed population of the fan community. This album is good in it's own way, as it's incredibly diverse. I think this is just one of those albums whose songs will sound much better when they're performed live-- and that isn't a bad thing at all. ] 15:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
	:I never knew they can write an album better than meteora, but they did.................. its perhaps the best works by them. i love the songs.............. though i don't support leaks, i downloaded it, and ill wait for the itunes edition to come out.

	I think there is some content here that'd be good for the ] page.] 18:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:LOL Chrisj, and for the record, "Given Up" isn't even close to metalcore. See ], ], ], or even the ] page for examples of metalcore. Just because the breakdown at the end of one song is significantly heavier than the rest of it, don't mean you should go around classifying the entire record metalcore. ] 18:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	btw meteora was <big>NOT</big> their best, if it wasnt minutes, it was theory. and at best given up is a bit more of their old sound'''<font color="green">]</font>''' ''<font color="blue">]</font>'' '''<font color="red">]</font>''' 18:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:I guarantee you this: If Minutes to Midnight was a debut album by a band, they would never get very big. Linkin Park would never have been this successful of they came out with Minutes to Midnight first. And you know why? Because it's simply not that good. It's not nearly as creative or unique, nothing about it sticks out, and some of it is downright lame. Hybrid Theory, I think, may be one of the best albums by the decade. Meteora was a fantastic follow-up. I mean think about a kickass song like "Faint". When you first heard it, you knew it was going to be huge. There are NO songs like that on Minutes to Midnight. Quite simply, it's a boring and plain album. I envy you if you can actually enjoy it. Unfortunately, Hybrid Theory and Meteora will have to hold me over until they return to form, if that ever happens.] 19:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Most of the album is soft and suttle; sounding like they went back to the sounds of the particular old track "My December". Even some of the rhyming they used seemed a little amateur for such an extended period of time to have been writing. "Given Up" is okay, "What I've Done" is overplayed, and "No More Sorrow" sounds like ] (who I in fact like so this isn't a bad thing lol). These three tracks are the only standout songs on the record. "Bleed It Out" does too sort of, but it's basically a redux of Fort Minor, with an unrelated 2-line chorus. Linkin Park has always been an outstanding band and even though they became famous for their rapcore/nu-metal sounds, extending to different genres isn't exactly "wrong".. But this change was so abrupt. I've always been a fan of ]'s productions, but I think for the sake of the band's sound they should possibly consider ] returning as producer on subsequent albums. Linkin Park has always remained a strong band despite 4 years of no releases, so the best way to look at this I find is that there ''will'' be future albums, be it only one, or more. ''Minutes to Midnight'' isn't the final Linkin Park record, and that provides hope. ] 19:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:probably the reason that is sounds just so freaking different is that mike is ''singing'' a lot and Chester's is not screaming. I'm listening to them both right now and like old way more, retract previous statement. and if minutes is the last album it'll be because some crazy lunatic girl killed a member because of the album's change(you know the kind of person im talking about). that would stop `em because they don't seem like the band to go on with out an original member, unlike ''Queen'' '''<font color="green">]</font>''' ''<font color="blue">]</font>'' '''<font color="red">]</font>''' 19:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Lol yeah I guess there's that to consider, but really negative things like that seem a bit rash. Basically other than tragedies (fatalities, which seems very extreme and unlikely, creative differences, label disbandings) a fourth studio album will be in the works within the next few years (], ], ], ], ], ]). The band remains fairly consistent with their releases and now that they've returned to the spotlight (we'll see how the public reacts to the album when it is released in its entirety though), it shouldn't be that long before we see another release. It seems this band works better under pressure, something we don't see people admit. Linkin Park needs more assertion, but I won't tell them how they should do their job, I just hope they can meet their old style and their new style at a halfway point or something, if they honestly want to change. ] 19:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:yea, (man ur people write alot!!<small>myspace-ers)</small> but does live in texas count as an album i thought it was just a concert on CD? and collision course diddnt feature and new work, tho it sounded great.. '''<font color="green">]</font>''' ''<font color="blue">]</font>'' '''<font color="red">]</font>''' 20:05, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Geuhh I hate MySpace lol. ''Live in Texas'' is still a release so I counted it. Regardless, ''Meteroa'' was released earlier that year so they still had a 2003 studio album. ''Collision Course'' again I counted because it was simply a Linkin Park release; Even ''Reanimation'' wasn't a studio album. The idea though is that despite not releasing a studio album since 2003, Linkin Park have remained fairly consistent with their releases, so we can expect something, anything, by 2009 (excluding ''LPU'' EP's which are released every year. ] 20:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:all right i get what ur saying. so yea pray to whoever your god is that their will be more, unless you have no god, then start a petition, or be lazy and go see spider man 3 again. imma go with three.<br>P.S. i hate myspace too'''<font color="green">]</font>''' ''<font color="blue">]</font>'' '''<font color="red">]</font>''' 20:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Guys, my thoughts were the same when i first heard the album, i asked w\questions like y did they become too soft et al.... but let me tell you........................... the album is having a slow intoxicating effect on me.......... some songs are too soft i agree...... but they are not bad...... i love hard rock, but this new- genre still manages to encaptivate me.... i dunno y.--] 13:40, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

	:I've listened to the entire album a couple of times and it still isn't growing on me. I tried. ] 20:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

	Most of the critics rate it as LP's best album, it is really good............ i never thought they will come out with gr8 stuff like this...................
	P.S. I hate MySpace three.
	--] 06:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	:I agree with you guys, the album still isn't growing on me. It seems they haven't grown up with their audience, and this album is still targeted at teenagers (a la alternative rock/emo bands like PATD, Fall Out Boy, 30STM, My Chemical Romance) - not saying Linkin Park are anywhere near as bad as those 'bands', at least what Linkin Park does can be classified as music. But, at risk of sounding like a goth kid, this album is 'conforming to the mainstream' in ways that the previous albums did not. I don't even know what genre I would call this - probably 'Alternative Rock', as it's an infinitely broad genre that every band can fit into. Even with the new sound, I could've possibly enjoyed this album if it wasn't for the political messages in /EVERY/ song. Give it a break guys, you're not making a difference to the Bush administration by singing about the war. Linkin Park, R.I.P. ] 07:04, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

	For god's sake osmodious, thats a huge underestimation, and why the hell r you calling LP, RIP? And political messages are, atleast meaningful..... not the usual boring love songs by majority of the $#%@#$%@#$ bands. My whole point isa that the listeners are taken aback by the change in genre, they will take time to realize how good an album it is.--] 15:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Nine Inch Nails' new album ''Year Zero'' is entirely political an it wasn't disappointing. Not NIN's best album but for only a wait of two years Trent Reznor seemed to pull off something completely different far grander than what Linkin Park seemed to accomplish here. No one is saying Linkin Park sucks or anything so don't be offended. This could be because of Rick Rubin. Personally I think he's a very accomplished producer, but I think his style here wasn't suitable for Linkin Park. He gave them the absolute freedom to roam to just about anything, unfortunately they roamed too far from the true Linkin Park and somehow got lost. If they somehow "find themselves" per se, the next album (presenting mutuality between the ''Minutes'' era and pre-''Minutes'' era of the band) could be incredible. ] 15:43, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

	== AOL Review ==
	When did AOL review Minutes to Midnight? Unless there is a link to verify this the starred review needs to be taken off. --] 23:59, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Probably came from of What I've Done. ] 00:19, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

	That is the average user rating so it really doesn't count. --] 03:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

	:How can users rate the album? It isn't out nor has it leaked hahahaha. It's just silly. ] 04:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

	I can't believe how behind you are on the news of this album, you guys are constantly questioning new information being added

	:Misplaced Pages standards are that all general information be sourced to prove its authenticity. You could write anything but sources help to denote true information from vandalism and mistakes. ] 16:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Trivia section ==
	This is not the first time Mike will sing lead vocals.

	:Songs such as; Step Up, High Voltage, Dedicated, It's Going Down feature Mike having the role of being the lead vocalist.

	Please edit that statement in the trivia section as it is false. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 07:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:Edit it yourself. Why can't you do it?--] 08:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

	The page is protected. Unregistered/Newly registered user can't edit the page. ] 13:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Yeah, you ignorant person

	Note the key word SINGS. This won't be the first time he's a lead vocal (rap-wise), but it WILL be his first time SINGING vocals. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 17:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:How do you know that's what he/she meant by "sings." This could just denote that Mike performed the lead vocals in general. Until the album (or the track itself) is heard there's no knowing for sure. ] 18:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

	He's SINGING on this track. There's a track-by-track overview of the album from Kerrang! Magazine where it is said that he 'sings.' "Chester: I knew that Mike should really sing this song. I tried it once, I did a good job, but it just didn’t have the power of Mike’s performance because he really believed what he was singing. Whatever it is that the motherfucker is apologising for on this track, he’s fucking serious! It comes from the most sincere and heartfelt place." Source - http://lpassociation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24261 (link to a scan of the article in post) <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 16:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:Hmm, I wonder why they never seem to have more than 12 songs on major albums. -- ] 03:53, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

	I guess it's just the band's preference. Not that I'm a big fan of Slipknot anymore, but they did the same thing, albeit with each major label studio album containing ''14'' tracks. ] 13:16, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

	:Metora had 13 tracks, if you count session.] 06:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

	Well if you count that little 11 second (or something like that) intro to ''Meteora'', then you pretty much have to count "Session", being a much more established track haha — so 13 tracks it is. ] 15:42, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

	:hmmm yea i suppose i forgot about it cause it just sounds like the beginning to Don't Stay buy take out the instrumentals and the first two each have 11 tracks, with minutes having 12(counting the instrumental "Wake Up") otherwise its 11 with that two, pattern?? ] 05:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	12, 13, 12... What the next album (if there is one) will have 13? I guess we'll see when they announce a 4th album. Oh to add this CD is OK... but ] was their best work. - ] 22:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:dude ur daft, if this wasnt the best it was ] hands down!<font color="green">]</font><font color="green"> ]</font> <font color="red">]</font> 18:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	I was just mentioning that the trivia was switched around, so I edited it. 21-Stitches was the demo name for Given Up not No More Sorrow and EBow Idea(not just EBow) was the demo name for No More Sorrow. My reference for the EBow Idea demo name was http://lptimes.com/news2007/april/news04042007.html ]

	=== Trivia is unreferenced ===
	I am adding a <nowiki>{{references}}</nowiki> tag to the Trivia section. If someone could find sources for the information please go ahead and add them. --''']]''' 07:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Half of the trivia section is based on "xx" will be the first Link Park song to feature.... so on. You can't source that. If you listen to the leak or buy the album on the 15th (or before depending what country to live in), that's how you source that. ] 16:59, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	The sources are the songs...] 17:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Exactly, but the album isn't out yet, it leaked but it isn't out still. You can't exactly link to the song and use that as a reference. If the album were out it would be common knowledge, but it isn't so people just have to believe it. ] 17:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	::I gotta go with R-Tiztik on this one. The exact problem is that the source is a leaked album. The posting individual(s) might as well have placed a big red luminescent sign over their head stating "I pirate music, please sue me". As far as I'm concerned, "comment" them out till the 14th/15th.... ] 01:45, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Heads Up: Links ==
	One of the links at the bottom of the page is incorrectly noted as the official 'Minutes to Midnight' page, when in fact it is just as fan-site. I'm willing to delete it, but I don't want to get yelled at lol.--] 02:58, 22 April 2007 (UTC) <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 02:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

	:if i'm not mistaken, fansites get removed. it's not there now, and shouldn't be added back in. ] 07:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

	I'm just asking before I edit... but shouldn't the Links be before that whole Linkin Park chart dealie<--(Not Real Word)? Also, how I would go about moving a section if needed?-] 11:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Singles ==
	I know "What I've Done" is a single that's burning up radio stations but, does any one have proof that "Given Up" is the next single. If I don't hear anything I'll remove it. More than likely we'll have to get '''ALL''' of our info from . If we don't then it's all just a rumor. - ] 14:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:Exactly, there is no proof so I've removed it for the hundredth time. ] 15:35, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	Hmmm, that's strange, I heard Given Up on the radio today, 5 May 2007. Possibly got that track form the leak? ] 22:54, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

	:It's been playing on the radio for a few days (before the leak anyways), this isn't enough proof to say this song will be the next single though. The probability is bumped up due to radio play, but Wiki isn't a crystal ball. ] 00:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	Strange... I guess North Carolina's radio stations are a little behind. I haven't heard anything besides "What I've Done" and that took a month after the single was released to even get played.-] 11:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Lyrics ==
	http://www.metrolyrics.com/minutes-to-midnight-album-linkin-park.html. i didnt know if this should be in the article

	:Lyrics don't belong on Misplaced Pages, well maybe this link could go in the External Links section. Regardless I've been looking for the written lyrics so this is nice. ] 05:15, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	allright ill put it there] 05:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC) edit: its there Edit2:when i find eat me ones ill add that to it as well fell MM fan

	:Lyrics don't belong on Misplaced Pages. There is a lyric site, but I don't think it's associated with Misplaced Pages, but it's . There you should find lyrics. Minutes to Midnight is on there. They're still in the editing stages but they'll get it right... I hope this helps out a little.-] 10:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

	of course lyrics shouldnt be here but a link probably should, simply because it is directly related to the article, and your source is complete. include it.]

	:OK I got the link to the album. Just giving a heads up before I change the "Lyrics" link.-] 10:31, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

	What was wrong with the last list of lyrics?'''<font color="green">]</font>''' ''<font color="blue">]</font>'' '''<font color="red">]</font>''' 22:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

	:The tracks are out of order or not in the same order as the tracks on the album.-] 16:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	Some of the lyrics at the MetroLyrics link are also entirely wrong. "Wake" has no lyrics, yet the site lists lyrics anyways, and "Leave Out All the Rest" doesn't have remotely the same lyrics. The LyricWiki link has the correct lyrics however. ] 16:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

	== Cleaning ==
	if some topics are irrelevant, or impossible to purposefully discuss, shouldn't they be removed, they take up space.<font color="green">]</font><font color="green"> ]</font> <font color="red">]</font> 18:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 11:44, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Minutes to Midnight (album) → Minutes To Midnight (album) – Currently, the title is Minutes to Midnight (album), but when reading the booklet that comes with the album, it is stylized as Minutes To Midnight with the "t" of "to" being capitalized. I know this is a minor change, but this is the capitalization that the band used in the booklet that came with the album. JDC808 (talk) 07:42, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Oppose. MOS:CT does not make allowance for how the artist styled it; it says that to and other short prepositions should be lowercase. —C.Fred (talk) 23:54, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

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I was looking for the old Mr. T tv show of that name...22:46, 14 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.133.186 (talk)

Checking links to see which one points here. Try T&T for the dab page, which has an explanation for the link here and now has a link to T. and T.. —C.Fred (talk) 22:49, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

And retargeted T And T to the dab page. —C.Fred (talk) 22:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Genre

Maybe I'll say that I am fan of the ATS era of the band at the beginning. Honestly I don't understand why there is such a big deal with naming the record "pop rock". It is pretty obvious that there are pop rock songs on the album - In Between, Valentine's Day and Leave Out All The Rest. So why people are still changing it to alternative metal or nu metal? NU METAL? One reason, please. There is one metal song on the album - No More Sorrow - heavy guitar riff, marching percussion and screaming, no doubt about it. But it's just one song. Yeah, Given Up and Bleed It Out also contain heavy vocals, but the first in more punk/grunge with it's main riff, while the latter is a synthesis of rap rock and funk. Still, even if we count NMS, BIO and GU as metal songs, there are 3 metal songs and 3 pop rock songs on the record (the rest being alternative rock). So why can't we just agree with the fact that LP has recorded some of these on MTM and put the genre into the info-box? I know that there are some die-hard Hybrid Theory and Meteora fans out there who just can't accept that LP don't play nu metal anymore, but wikipedia shouldn't lie only because of that. Right now someone not knowing the band could think that Minutes... is just another Meteora-like record, and that's pretty unfair. Thank you and sorry for terrible english. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.24.88.94 (talk) 22:23, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Redirection of "No More sorrow"

The rederection of the song "No More Sorrow" should be changed to the page No More Sorrow (Linkin Park) instead of this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chopra.nitin96 (talk • contribs) 04:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely not. The article name "No More Sorrow (Linkin Park)" will not replace "No More Sorrow" because almost every song on this website doesn't have the term "(Linkin Park song)" next to a song title unless if it's completely necessary. So therefore, it's not going to happen. I'm sorry. Skylar3214 (talk) 05:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Minutes to Midnight (Linkin Park album)/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Article requirements:

Y All the start class criteria
Y A completed infobox, including cover art and most technical details
Y At least one section of prose (excluding the lead section)
Y A track listing containing track lengths and authors for all songs
Y A full list of personnel, including technical personnel and guest musicians
Y Categorisation at least by artist and year

Y A casual reader should learn something about the album.Andrzejbanas (talk) 20:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 20:34, 19 July 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 00:10, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 26 March 2017

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: PAGE MOVED.(non-admin closure) Kostas20142 (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Minutes to Midnight (album) → Minutes to Midnight (Linkin Park album) – Per WP:NCM, as Minutes to Midnight (Jon English album) exists. Possibly uncontrovertial but as LP's album is way popular and notable than JE's, a RM might be needed. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 06:27, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Support Yeah I also don't see a problem here. Insert CleverPhrase Here 07:05, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Support. The current title is incomplete disambiguation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Removal of alternative metal?

Should alternative metal stay? There's no sourced genre in the infobox and there's only two songs there even close to metal, Given Up and No More Sorrow. I don't think it should stay as just alt rock though... Any other thoughts? --Solitude6nv5 (talk) 15:25, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

In that movie Inglourious Basterds they say there is a hand sign

Actually, within the Federal Republic of Germany the alphabetical numbering is considered a crime vs §130 StGB.

888 ist somewhere beyond Heil Hitler ( which is just 88 ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A0A:A549:23BF:0:1985:31CA:BA8D:8F51 (talk) 11:34, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

"Linkin park 3" listed at Redirects for discussion

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