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Should it be "Media freedom in Russia", "Freedom of expression in Russia", or "Censorship in Russia"? ] 21:57, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
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== NPOV ==
I propose to create both three articles and fill them with equal stuff, to make editors' life impossible. ] 10:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


Check this article for objectivity. Remove links to western propaganda and to pseudo-independent organisations. Links should point to authoritative independent sources and show all views with no cuts. Links should represent official position of russian government, and view of all russian and international media, including asian countries. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 05:48, 28 January 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
==TV directors in Kremlin==
:Are reptilians still shit in your pants, not allowing to talk about UFOs?
Approx. english translation of at ] account of Russian journalist ] (LJ user "another_kashin"):


Despite having been asked four years back, the telling points made in this NPOV comment are yet to be addressed. Or would to do so risk highlighting how this article breaks Misplaced Pages's rules on balanced reporting and the need to avoid pushing an agenda? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:'''user:
:Yevgeniya Albats claims that directors of TV companies and newspapers are every thursday invited to Kremlin at meetings with ], where they are told which news where to present. Strictly, "Today the directors of the television channels and the newspapers are invited every Thursday into the Kremlin office of the deputy head of administration, Vladislav Surkov to learn what news should be presented, and where."
:Would you comment on this?


== poetin is same person as hitler ==
:'''user: another_kashin
:As far as I know, such meetings are no longer with Surkov; also two years ago they were cancelled by incentive of Kremlin, and soon restored by incentive of directors of TV companies.
:Western media (and Albats especially) don't understand nothing at all about Russia.


poetin is a massa murder. He looks like hitler.
:'''user:
a person like poetin does not care about people. even his own people off russia he does not care about.
:And may be, you would take into it and write, what do directors of TV discuss inside Kremlin walls? The theme for journalist investigation is great, topical and uncovered. Perhaps, dangerous too. But we have, the hell, democracy! and you are representative of fourth branch of power. We would be proud of you! :)


poetin must be killed for the freedom off whole the world. ] (]) 13:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
:'''user: another_kashin
:Perhaps it's really a great and uncovered thema, but as soon as number of participants of such meetings hardly exceeds five, and moreover, hardly any of them has inclination to spread contents of the conversations beyond bounds of that office (and it's since that he works, that he doesn't has such inclination), so perhaps it's even impossible to learn that for sure.
:But it's very simple to guess, what happens there and what's the sense of such meetings. Two leading channels of the country derectly belong to the state, the third belongs to the state company "Gazprom". Has the leading stockholder the right to carry consultations with heads of its companies? Undoubtedly has. Has it the right to get involved in editorial policy? The law sais nothing about it, and the shareholder, obviously, gets involved -- it's brilliantly seen from contents of broadcasts, by the way, which I believe is rarely taken seriously by anybody in Russia, TV is industry of entertainment and ratings are quite convicting to witness that.
:Then, may such meetings and on the whole interference in editorial policy be considered violence upon good will of managers of TV companies? I guess, no. In exchange for that interference, TV companies obtain, at first, perceptible preferences towards access of any information (there are many places, institutions, people, accessible only by state TV companies, and inaccessible for journalists of private newspapers), and what's more important, unlimited opportunity to earn money in spheres, which do no interest the state — movies, show-business, and so on (in these domains state companies became serious players only now, under Putin, and it's because share of responsibility looks approximately so.)


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== Misplaced Pages editor detained for violating Russian law ==

"," Yahoo.

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== ] deserves to be mentioned ==

Her participations in The ]. ] (]) 10:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

== No Freedom to Present Evidence? ==

Seems that Russia does not have the freedom to put across it's Point of View within this article. Is it a case of being innocent - until proven Russian? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:The article speaks of facts. It does cover Kremlin's justifications for the restrictions, but the absence of media freedom is not a point of view, it's a fact. ] (]) 12:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

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NPOV

Check this article for objectivity. Remove links to western propaganda and to pseudo-independent organisations. Links should point to authoritative independent sources and show all views with no cuts. Links should represent official position of russian government, and view of all russian and international media, including asian countries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.167.168.10 (talk) 05:48, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

Are reptilians still shit in your pants, not allowing to talk about UFOs?

Despite having been asked four years back, the telling points made in this NPOV comment are yet to be addressed. Or would to do so risk highlighting how this article breaks Misplaced Pages's rules on balanced reporting and the need to avoid pushing an agenda? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.196.0 (talk) 12:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

poetin is same person as hitler

poetin is a massa murder. He looks like hitler. a person like poetin does not care about people. even his own people off russia he does not care about.

poetin must be killed for the freedom off whole the world. 82.217.161.18 (talk) 13:58, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Give it is illegal, why is Misplaced Pages letting people use it as a platform for Hate Speech? Would this comment been allowed is if had been aimed at the US President? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.196.0 (talk) 13:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages editor detained for violating Russian law

"Prominent editor of Russian Misplaced Pages pages detained in Belarus," Yahoo.

"Authorities in Belarus have arrested and detained ... one of the top editors of Russian Misplaced Pages.... Bernstein was reportedly accused of violating the "fake news" law Russia passed in early March by editing the Misplaced Pages article about the invasion of Ukraine. Under the new law, anybody found guilty of what the country deems as false information about the Ukraine invasion — remember, the Kremlin calls it a "special military operation" — could be imprisoned for up to 15 years." --2603:7000:2143:8500:19EE:D8B5:8A85:4329 (talk) 06:11, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Margarita Simonyan deserves to be mentioned

Her participations in The Evening with Vladimir Solovyov. Xx236 (talk) 10:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

No Freedom to Present Evidence?

Seems that Russia does not have the freedom to put across it's Point of View within this article. Is it a case of being innocent - until proven Russian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.166.190 (talk) 09:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

The article speaks of facts. It does cover Kremlin's justifications for the restrictions, but the absence of media freedom is not a point of view, it's a fact. Cloud200 (talk) 12:40, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

The again, while the article speaks of facts - are they not mixed in with a degree of (anti-Russian) agenda pushing? (Updated) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.166.242 (talk) 19:59, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

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