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== Leaving Wipedia ==


I noticed. Sorry to see you go. I think you did good editing work, as long as it didn't require you to deal with other editors. Maybe you should just take time off and see what happens at the arbitration case, before you decide to leave permanently.--] (]) 13:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
The only additional rule I have here is to keep your comments clean and concise&mdash;I have zero tolerance over unclean messages and messages that are detrimental to my personality, as they only hurt the talk page's appearance. Thanks.
:I am leaving Misplaced Pages <u>without any strings attached</u>. Officially, and '''FOR GOOD'''. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 15:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


== Sorry but I'm adios ==
Page last moderated by &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 23:50, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


Sorry but after 2 years, I'm voluntarily adios. The fact that you got involved in a conspiracy to place me under arbitration is the last straw. Therefore go to another editor if you want various articles to be edited. I don't have any time to waste with Misplaced Pages anymore. I leave Misplaced Pages with this one warning: there will be even more fragile editors like myself and soon there will be opposition to Misplaced Pages's oppresive rules that y'all will have to think things. I don't care about those articles anymore and nobody cared about my edits anyway. Sorry, but I'm voluntarily finished here. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 12:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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:I think that last message is very telling of what exactly is wrong with your attitude... There's no conspiracy nor are we, or have we ever, tried to oppress your content on Misplaced Pages articles. If anything, your edits to the articles were more than good for most editors I've seen around here. The entire point of all this was to get you to recognize that you are not the only person on Misplaced Pages and therefore you need to interact more respectfully with others. That's it. Somehow you keep seeing this as an attack on your edits but it seriously isn't... not remotely. What rule did you exactly find so oppressive? How have we treated you in a mean or vindictive manner? In either case, life will move on here with you here or not, no need for such warnings of doom. ''']''' ]|] 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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:I explicitly stated that it wasn't an attack. I'm only trying to lend a hand in solving the problem. You're a good editor; just have a bad attitude. &mdash; ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 18:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
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::Vesther, you're one of the editors I look up to. You've been contributing to '']'' articles and I've learned a thing or two from it. Actually, a lot more than that. I hope you'll change your mind and come back, because you're one of the Wikipedians that make up Misplaced Pages. --] 23:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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== OWN == == Hope to see you Soon! ==
Please read ] you do not own your talk page. Continually blanking warnings so you can choose to ignore them and continue your uncivil attacking nature is not conducive to the community spirit here on wikipedia. I suggest your familiarize your self with that, as well as ].--] 23:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


Sorry to see you go! After all its nice to have someone watch my back when I needed some help! I hope you don't mind but I put the Barnstar I gave you back on your user page... Since I think you still deserve it :-) Your pal Phoenix! -- ] 05:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
: This is called a harsh criticism. That is extremely abrasive. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 00:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

: On a side note, that is considered unwelcoming as you support harsh criticisms here in Misplaced Pages. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 00:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

::Regardless of the reason you got in to a heated dispute, you shouldn't engage in them, regardless of the reason. This isn't harsh criticism, its a reminder of the rules, since you continue to ignore them with uncivil behaviour while blanking warnings about that very thing. If you can't take part in a particular dispute without resorting to uncivil behaviour you should consider moving on and editing something else for awhile and return with a cool head.--] 00:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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:::That's unfortunate. If you're going to behave contrary to the policies and guidelines on wikipedia you're going to be reminded of them. If you continue to behave as such and ignore the warnings you will likely find yourself no longer able to edit wikipedia. The warnings you previously removed are standard warning templates used for when anyone behaves as you have so far and aren't personal. They're simple reminders, and owning your talk page to remove them isn't acceptable. Talk page content is generally archived after 7 days (see my page as an example) of non-activity in that subject. The page isn't yours to moderate and doing so will only lead to more conflict. Talk page content is only removed when its blatant trolling, none of which that content you removed fell under.--] 00:16, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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::::These aren't remotely abrasive criticisms. As I've pointed out, its a reminder to read the rules and follow them. If you can't handle being reminded about the rules on wikipedia you may wish to reconsider your involvement. Attacking other users and behaving uncivilly towards them because of a dispute in an article, or because their reminding you of the rules of participation here in some way damages you, is unacceptable. Ptkfgs left you a standard and appropriate warning for your behaviour which you deserved for the comments you made which included threatening him.--] 00:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::I didn't say your talk page was being archived after 7 days. I said its appropriate to do so. There is no reason anyone can't archive their talk page, wikipedia has unlimited space, and regardless of size anyone can archive their talk page (and I've seen some extremely large user talk page archives out there). The point was that you were blanking warnings for behaviour and using that same behaviour to remove those warnings and ignore wikipedia policy and guidelines on behaviour.--] 00:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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:Your edits are a matter of public record: . This is a threat ''...because if you do, then you will pay.'' and completely unacceptable behaviour on wikipedia. This is an uncivil edit summary . As is this, , it could have done without the snide remark tacked on the end. This is obviously an uncivil edit summary . etc etc, As well several of your comments on the ] are extremely uncivil.--] 00:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

::Misplaced Pages has no constraint on space. Its effectively unlimited. There is plenty of room for every user to archive their talk pages 10 fold. If you consider any criticism of you to be too harsh and requiring uncivil personal attacks as a response, then like I said, you may wish to move on from Misplaced Pages, because no matter what you do here, there is always going to be someone who disagrees with it. This time your behaviour is blatantly unacceptable and contrary to the policies and guidelines. --] 00:36, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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:::That is considered assuming bad faith with all the harsh criticisms and abrasiveness you placed on me. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 00:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
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::::We don't assume good faith blindly. Your continued uncivil behaviour and personal attacks don't afford you any good faith since you continually demonstrate that you have no respect for the policies and guidelines here and that you continually express that you can't seemingly work in a group since even warranted reminders of those rules that you choose to disregard are considered harsh criticism.--] 00:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::it doesn't matter what he did in the past. Nothing he could have done justifies your behaviour. There is ''no'' excuse it for it. If you can't be part of an article civilly, don't edit it. I'm not defending Ptkfgs at all. it doesn't matter who the other editors involved are. They don't control your behaviour, you do. Any editors editing style will be called in to question if they don't edit in accordance with the policies and guidelines of wikipedia. They're there for a reason. The community has decided what is acceptable behaviour here and that isn't it. --] 00:47, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:I could care less about the link in the Bose article. My dispute lies with your behaviour and has absolutely nothing to do with the link. I've never seen nor heard about the article until today. I noticed your uncivil edit summary on the Dell article. As is my custom I checked your history quickly to see if this was an on-going issue which it obviously is.--] 00:57, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::My problem wasn't with you restoring the content, it was with the snide uncivil comment you made. Further checking showed a history of personal attacks and uncivil comments.--] 01:01, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::I knew I recognized your name. Obviously you've decided to change your editing style and behaviour .--] 01:04, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::How many silly comments you have made with your edits? Some other people in Misplaced Pages does that too, so don't blame me solely. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 01:06, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::As I pointed out, it doesn't matter what other editors have done. Another editor acting inappropriately doesn't justify your doing so. I'm telling you that the behaviour you're doing is inappropriate. What editor X, Y or Z do, is immaterial. In the past you've had problems editing articles without getting in to fights over them. In fact that was the last time I spoke with you, a year ago. If you're going to make this a life long habit here and continue on ignoring the rules, you really need to take a critical look at what you're doing.--] 01:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:I came across you behaving inappropriately and you were warned for it, yet you've continued, and you've continued even a year later with the exact same behaviour. Again, other editors behaviour is immaterial. The locking of articles also has no bearing on this. You threatened and attacked other users and behaved uncivilly towards them.--] 01:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::You're not being singled out. If you did go through my contrib history you'll notice I've warned dozens, probably hundreds of users. There is no singling out. In fact the last time we talked was because someone got in a fight with you and I warned them, and then you after looking at both sides. you've obviously chosen to ignore that. There is a very simple fact here: You've continually behaved contrary to the policies and guidelines on wikipedia, you can either choose to address that or not. If you choose not to and continue to attack and threaten other users, you will eventually find your ability to edit severely restricted. So its up to you. You can complain about other users all you want, or bad links, or whatever, but in the end you're going to have to decide if you're willing to edit in a manner considered acceptable by the community.--] 01:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::It is never acceptable to threaten other users. If your viewpoint is neutral and verifiable, threatening other users isn't necessary to have it reflected in the article. Misplaced Pages has a number of dispute resolution procedures, I highly recommend you read them.--] 01:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:If you can't defend your viewpoint within the constraints of the policies and guidelines of wikipedia, no you don't. You have been here long enough, and had this conversation before. You should be well aware of whats considered acceptable behaviour here.--] 01:26, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
::Your reasoning doesn't matter. No matter the dispute, no matter the article. Either defend it within the confines of the policies or step away. There is no other acceptable method there. You don't get to attack and threaten users because you think you are right.--] 01:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
:::Again, it doesn't matter. No one else's behaviour justifies your own. If you want to try and ignore the rules and excuse away your behaviour, feel free, however wikipedia has very clear consequences outlined for dealing with that. That is all I will say. You make your choice on how you want to edit here and the community will respond appropriately. That goes for you and any other editor, including myself.--] 01:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

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Leaving Wipedia

I noticed. Sorry to see you go. I think you did good editing work, as long as it didn't require you to deal with other editors. Maybe you should just take time off and see what happens at the arbitration case, before you decide to leave permanently.--Atlan (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I am leaving Misplaced Pages without any strings attached. Officially, and FOR GOOD. — Mark Kim (U * T/R * CTD) 15:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but I'm adios

Sorry but after 2 years, I'm voluntarily adios. The fact that you got involved in a conspiracy to place me under arbitration is the last straw. Therefore go to another editor if you want various articles to be edited. I don't have any time to waste with Misplaced Pages anymore. I leave Misplaced Pages with this one warning: there will be even more fragile editors like myself and soon there will be opposition to Misplaced Pages's oppresive rules that y'all will have to think things. I don't care about those articles anymore and nobody cared about my edits anyway. Sorry, but I'm voluntarily finished here. — Mark Kim (U * T/R * CTD) 12:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that last message is very telling of what exactly is wrong with your attitude... There's no conspiracy nor are we, or have we ever, tried to oppress your content on Misplaced Pages articles. If anything, your edits to the articles were more than good for most editors I've seen around here. The entire point of all this was to get you to recognize that you are not the only person on Misplaced Pages and therefore you need to interact more respectfully with others. That's it. Somehow you keep seeing this as an attack on your edits but it seriously isn't... not remotely. What rule did you exactly find so oppressive? How have we treated you in a mean or vindictive manner? In either case, life will move on here with you here or not, no need for such warnings of doom. Sasquatch t|c 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I explicitly stated that it wasn't an attack. I'm only trying to lend a hand in solving the problem. You're a good editor; just have a bad attitude. — Selmo 18:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Vesther, you're one of the editors I look up to. You've been contributing to The Apprentice articles and I've learned a thing or two from it. Actually, a lot more than that. I hope you'll change your mind and come back, because you're one of the Wikipedians that make up Misplaced Pages. --Sli723 23:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hope to see you Soon!

Sorry to see you go! After all its nice to have someone watch my back when I needed some help! I hope you don't mind but I put the Barnstar I gave you back on your user page... Since I think you still deserve it :-) Your pal Phoenix! -- UKPhoenix79 05:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


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