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== Criticism of Electric Boat ==


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Hi (N) it's middim13 and I not very "wikisavvy" so I'm not even sure how to properly contact you. The Plunger was indeed the second submarine built after the proto-type Fulton (of the same size and class) but the Navy choose to name the A-Class boats after the (fourth) sub built (at Crescent) and named it Adder... (SS-2) if I'm not mistaken. Indeed this is somewhat confusing because the Navy assessed hull numbers to submarines sometime ''after'' 1911 and went back to assign these numbers to all the submarines that were built up until that point... about a dozen years worth of submarines developed for the U. S. Navy. (Please check out '''the Naval Historical Centers''' web page for a better understanding of this issue, although I can't say that their "version" is altogether accurate either. But the Director of the center has been helpful to me in the past and his name is '''Gary Weir PhD'''). He has written to me a couple of times and I have donated some early documents to his museum - I don't have my documents handy and so it is "out of my memory". '''But there is no doubt that these first fleet of submarines were indeed called the A-Class/ADDER-Class boats!''' So could you please correct this on Wiki! See: '''www.navsource.org/archives/08/08003.htm''' The USS ADDER (Submarine #3 was later known as SS-3... later to be renamed A-2/of the A-Class boats. '''John Philip Holland's''' primary biographer, and Electric Boat historian, '''Richard Knowles Morris''' is our country's premier submarine historian and helped me to "set ''"this"'' (and other) records straight". Read '''The Defender: The Story of General Dynamics''' to understand why I have these "attacking" feelings... i.e. $900.00 for one "high quality" screwdriver etc. The company has never been honest with the American people and is being run by the same types of individuals that overran Holland's company just over 100 years ago... i. e. corrupt financiers and pettifogging shysters etc. Also see: '''Who Built Those Subs?''' published by the USNI in '''Naval History Magazine Oct. 1998 125th Anniversary''' issue. More than happy to keep a fair and unbiased approach to disscussing this early submarine chapter with you... but I must tell you that I have done my (fair share of) research on this subject and there were all kinds of false claims (made) at the early Electric Boat Company... claims some still make today... and we've got ships named after some of these characters. Contact me at your convienance @ middim13 (at) hotmail (dot) com {{unsigned|middim13}}
*Your sources don't back up your claims. The "A" in A-Class does not stand for Adder. -] 23:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC) David, check out Electric Boat's article in Seapower magazine (supplement/advertisement) entitled: Electric Boat, 100 Years of Service to America, by former President of EB, John K. Welch. Go to www.navyleague.org/seapower/electric_boat.htm - There is a small "noteworthy" mention of Mr. Busch's unacknowledged role at the company as others took over his position and credit. Welch's article mentions "Adder Class" as U. S. Navy's first class of submarines. See also: Second page at google under Adder Class Submarines. Look at the book: The Illustrated Directory of Submarines of the World, by David Miller; ISBN 0760313458.


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Hey: quick question. This ] is listed as GFDL under the claim apparently that the uploader took the photgraph. Is taking a photograph of a work of art really valid to then say that its an original piece? I am considering listing this for IFD. What do you think? <em>&mdash;<font color="Indigo">]</font> <sup><small><b><font color="MediumSlateBlue">]</font></b></small></sup></em> 04:12, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
: Thanks for getting back to me. The only reason that it is not in use, is because I took it down. It has been in use . Should I put it back up, then list for IFD, or what am I supposed to do with this? Sorry about the headache...I can relate as I have been trying to come to terms with copyright policy now for several days.<em>&mdash;<font color="Indigo">]</font> <sup><small><b><font color="MediumSlateBlue">]</font></b></small></sup></em> 06:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


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Maybe there should be an automated (AWB, so I won't do it) {{tl|prod}}ing of middle school articles; only the ones that are non-notable, that is. ''']&nbsp;]&nbsp;]''' 23:37, 13 June 2007 (UTC)


I'm actually surprised that it still remains. I remember uploading it years ago. We never could get Amok to agree to the type of permission needed to keep it. I remember the email conversations explicitly. It all hinged around the Misplaced Pages regulations. He gave permission but some of the details regarding what entailed a free license were not to his liking, the result being that his artwork would be unusable to the site. I don not think that it can be saved.
== My recent RfA ==


As for the original email correspondences, I may or may not have them any longer. It's either on my old Yahoo Mail or Hotmail account, both of which has since been overrun by something on the order of 10,000 spam emails each and would be nearly impossible to sift through at this point. I'm not even certain that the Hotmail account still even exists. And it would likely be a pointless search since the permission that he granted was insufficient to the license that I loaded it under. ] (]) 11:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my recent, unsuccessful RfA. It's much appreciated. ] 15:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)


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*Don't edit my comments. -] 23:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
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==Fresnel Photo==
:: What does this have to do with canvassing? — ] 15:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
:::You posted on like 30 billion talk pages. -] 15:11, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
::::It was a fair notice. He posted to me also, and I had voted to delete in the AfD. ''']''' 01:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:::::Fine, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to make new arguments in the DRV, merely trying to point out the AfD was correct because the theory doesn't pass any kind of reliable sourcing. -] 01:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


Hi, I received a notice that the Fresnel photo is maybe deleted. I do not fully understand why.
''You were acting in good faith and I was not.''
I asked this from the Ausra media department, explicitly asking for permission. They are happy
if it is used.


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: Don't worry about it. I'm just frustrated with this whole situation. Apparently asking people to explain their opinions is "badgering" or "canvassing" now.


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: A number of people in the AfD argued this way, but a small majority disagreed. 19 voted keep and 15 voted delete, by my count, and both sides had a number of administrators amongst them. So you can't claim that the argument for no reliable sources is uncontested, and you can't claim that the people voting delete were meatpuppets or otherwise incompetent users, so I don't understand how the majority for keep can just be overruled like that. Deletion policy is pretty clear that without a strong consensus for deletion, the article is kept by default. The only exceptions are special circumstances like only ILIKEIT votes or meatpuppets or vote stacking or copyright violation, which don't apply here.


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: It seems to me like the person who closed the AfD ignored the actual discussion and just closed according to their own personal viewpoint. I could have done the exact same thing and closed it as keep instead of voting. If I had, everyone would be up in arms, so why aren't they up in arms about this? It defies all logic. — ] 13:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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:I'm sorry about the spite dripping from every word there; I discovered the situation late last night, and got really rather more angry about it than it warranted. I do, however, at this time, oppose your actions. ] (]) 09:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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== Hmm == == Notability Awards ==


Hello! <br> Happened to come across the essay ] and was wondering why it is dead. Could you revive that discussion somehow? Or is it already covered somewhere else? §§] (]) 19:26, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
Did not know that happened. My computer acts odd sometimes, and other times, accidents happen. I will restore that, if you didn't already. I was voting support so its not like I was doing anything bad.--<span style="font-family: Century Gothic;">]</span> 19:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)


== File:Rob De Luca Live 2011 nominated for deletion ==
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Hi there,
There is no actual picture because there is no actual insignia. See the article ] for details. <span style="font-family:cursive">]</span> ] 23:55, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I knew there would be trouble. Can you please help me in this uncomfortable situation: I found the free picture and added it to Wiki commons back then. I liked that picture and I'd still love to see it here but:It's from 2008 and does not reflect his appearance onstage properly as it is today. Rob De Luca wants this image down in any case, even if it's impossible to post the new one. They new picture was posted before, it was deleted. Now Rob De Luca himself asked me to re-post the new one or AT LEAST remove the old one.
*Right. Thank you for fixing me. -] 00:04, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


If you add a picture to your CV, usually you don't own the copyright, the photographer who took the pic owns it. Nevertheless you have the right to use it in your CV and even post it on the internet. You wouldn't be happy if someone told you to use another picture instead. And you would use different pictures for different prospective employers, e.g. a pic showing your six-pack abs for a film casting a a photograph showing you in suit and tie for a job in a bank. You might even apply for both jobs at the same time.
== What is a notable award ==


Misplaced Pages articles for performing artists (actors, bands, musicians...) function as when performing artists apply for a gig and if the prospective employer is not satisfied with the public image the picture on Misplaced Pages represents, they might not get booked/employed. Misplaced Pages is neutral and reliable about facts, so I think they have the right to choose their picture that does not bring any disadvantage for their career as any other human being has with their CV. It's all cool about Misplaced Pages policies about free and copyrighted content, but I think neither concert promoters, nor average fans know and understand them.
== Deletion review Kari Schull et al ==

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I have informed him that this does not meet all Misplaced Pages criteria and it's likely to be deleted, I have suggested a couple of newer free pictures to him, none meets his expectations he want this picture up, so I've decided to try it this way and open a discussion about it. Because I think he's right. He can have the whole article deleted as a living person, but he does not have the right to choose the picture? Somehow doesn't match, right?

I think Wiki policies need to be changed that publicity pictures of performing artists, and existing bands may replace a free picture if the artist or their management insist on it. The wrong picture can be resulting in not being booked, which is (I'm sure abuot that) NOT the intention of Misplaced Pages. I think there should be a category "replaceable with a free picture category only if approved by ..." with a link to the responsible contact.

I respect absolutely agree with the principles of Misplaced Pages, it is a treasure for mankind to be able to look up things and it's a good thing to have everything for free. I do not get paid by the records company or anyone else to do this. I have removed commercial links from other articles. A
One of the five pillars of Misplaced Pages is neutrality. I don't think replacing the new picture with the old one is neutral. He has really long hair on it, now it's much shorter. So bands looking for a (touring) bassist might not choose him because he does not match their image (either instantly for the long hair, or later for the short hair) So this is clearly a disadvantage for his career.

I'd suggest the following: Until the possible policy change is discussed let the new (copyrighted) pic up and in the article. Please start the discussion in the right place or find someone who does this and set all tags in order to give the picture time until the end of the discussion. I don't know how to do it and I really don't have the time to learn it know.

If you feel you need this "unbelievable" story to be confirmed or for more details contact Lovember Records. www.lovemberrecords.com

You can also suggest alternate free pictures there or discuss other ways to get an appropriate picture up with management or the man himself. I'm totally in between two chairs and want to get out of this discussion as soon as possible. I'm sure you understand I will not disclose neither my my real name nor my e-mail address here. If you want to discuss via e-mail, also contact Lovember Records, they will give you my email address as well.

If the old picture keeps popping up I won't have any other choice than get the photographer withdraw his permission and have the pic deleted from Wiki commons. I don't want to to that, it's a good picture and might be nice to illustrate either Rob De Luca's or the UFO band article at some stage, but it is not applicable as a picture to introduce the subject of the article any more due to the reasons mentioned above.

Thank you for understanding!

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Hello, just replying to you message on my talk page. The editor originally thought if the MCPON did not have 12 consecutive years of good conduct, he/she would be a "red chevron" MCPON, which is not the case. There has never been a red chevron MCPON in the history of the office. The MCPON is personally appointed by the CNO. Prior to 2019, an enlisted sailor is not entitle to wear gold chevrons unless they have had 12 consecutive years of good conduct. A sailor could loose their gold chevrons and revert back to red chevrons, if their bad conduct warranted such a discipline. In turn, the sailor would have to serve an addition 12 consecutive years of good conduct to earn their gold chevrons again. With that being said, the chances of a MCPON being appointed, who did not have 12 consecutive years of good conduct is unheard of, since the MCPON represents the interest all Navy enlisted forces. The CNO would not appoint a leader with such a cloud of controversy.

In the case of MCPON ], he ended up resigning and voluntarily retired in 2018. There has never been a MCPON would has decided to remain in the Navy after leaving office. Even if Giordano had wanted to remain in the Navy he would not be serving as MCPON, and would have reverted back to being a master chief. I'm basing this under the assumption that he would not have been demoted from E-9 paygrade, since the Navy did allow him to retire as a MCPON. No other MCPON had ever faced discipline while in office, so there is no other precedence. Since Giordano retired as a MCPON, and since the Navy has never had a "red chevron" MCPON insignia before, I truly doubt that the Navy would waste the time and taxpayer money to specially make a red chevron MCPON insignia for one, lone, retired individual.

Finally, the policy governing "red chevrons" and "gold chevrons" was by the ]. All enlisted sailors now automatically transition from red to gold after hit their 12-year mark, regardless of good or bad conduct. Even so, the possibility of there being a MCPON with less than 12 years of service in the Navy is virtually impossible, as the CNO would usually set a minimum 16-20 years of service, as well as the master chief must have also held a senior leadership position in their E-9 paygrade: command master chief, fleet master chief, or force master chief). I hope this explanation helps clears up your confusion. ] (]) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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Re: http://commons.wikimedia.org/File:53_daenarys.jpg

I'm actually surprised that it still remains. I remember uploading it years ago. We never could get Amok to agree to the type of permission needed to keep it. I remember the email conversations explicitly. It all hinged around the Misplaced Pages regulations. He gave permission but some of the details regarding what entailed a free license were not to his liking, the result being that his artwork would be unusable to the site. I don not think that it can be saved.

As for the original email correspondences, I may or may not have them any longer. It's either on my old Yahoo Mail or Hotmail account, both of which has since been overrun by something on the order of 10,000 spam emails each and would be nearly impossible to sift through at this point. I'm not even certain that the Hotmail account still even exists. And it would likely be a pointless search since the permission that he granted was insufficient to the license that I loaded it under. Unak78 (talk) 11:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

nard, change it back immediately or we will block you have nikon, lamillie and the others prove that they have the films, we want your name and address, we can prove all rights worldwide, if you dont we will withdraw the copyrights of all our 843 photographies and graphics and texts to wikipedia and sue you professor dr. uwe kils , photographenmeister, president of FOTO KILS foundation http://www.uhse-elite-university.com/fotokilsfoundation.html user kils

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Fresnel Photo

Hi, I received a notice that the Fresnel photo is maybe deleted. I do not fully understand why. I asked this from the Ausra media department, explicitly asking for permission. They are happy if it is used.

Lkruijsw (talk) 22:34, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Clark Gable and Myrna Loy.jpg

See: discussion. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:56, 19 May 2012 (UTC).

Since you haven't replied, I will be removing the tag on this image. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 05:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC).

Nomination for deletion of Template:FoP-USonly

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RedirectBypasser: Redirect bypass issues

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With the exception of the above, the replacement seems to be complete and I've turned off the task. Sorry for the problems that led to multiple posts to your talk page. Anomie 03:30, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Freedom of panorama

The Angel of the North. This is a featured picture

Now, I'm a massive fan of assuming good faith and all that, but I just wanted to share a picture with you. The Angel of the North is a statue erected in the 1990s in the North East of England. Now, as a piece of artwork, it is within copyright, but, in the United Kingdom, there is a freedom of panorama. Now, as I'm sure you're aware, this freedom does not exist in the United States. I think you can see where I am going with this. Just in case you can't, I'll ask you this- seeing as you seem to be under the impression that, for Misplaced Pages's purposes, only the American law on freedom of panorama matters, and under the American law this would not be valid, I ask you this- do you want this image to be deleted? If not, can I ask you to explain to me how your position is not utterly inconsistent? J Milburn (talk) 22:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the spite dripping from every word there; I discovered the situation late last night, and got really rather more angry about it than it warranted. I do, however, at this time, oppose your actions. J Milburn (talk) 09:49, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
The English Misplaced Pages and Commons have different policies. I'm not responsible for that. If you feel so strongly that this file should have non-free tagging, you can create a local image description page, and add the tags. And, you're right, that would make it ineligible for featured picture status. If you do so, please remove it from my talk page as well. -Nard (Hablemonos)(Let's talk) 13:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Notability Awards

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File:Rob De Luca Live 2011 nominated for deletion

Hi there, I knew there would be trouble. Can you please help me in this uncomfortable situation: I found the free picture and added it to Wiki commons back then. I liked that picture and I'd still love to see it here but:It's from 2008 and does not reflect his appearance onstage properly as it is today. Rob De Luca wants this image down in any case, even if it's impossible to post the new one. They new picture was posted before, it was deleted. Now Rob De Luca himself asked me to re-post the new one or AT LEAST remove the old one.

If you add a picture to your CV, usually you don't own the copyright, the photographer who took the pic owns it. Nevertheless you have the right to use it in your CV and even post it on the internet. You wouldn't be happy if someone told you to use another picture instead. And you would use different pictures for different prospective employers, e.g. a pic showing your six-pack abs for a film casting a a photograph showing you in suit and tie for a job in a bank. You might even apply for both jobs at the same time.

Misplaced Pages articles for performing artists (actors, bands, musicians...) function as when performing artists apply for a gig and if the prospective employer is not satisfied with the public image the picture on Misplaced Pages represents, they might not get booked/employed. Misplaced Pages is neutral and reliable about facts, so I think they have the right to choose their picture that does not bring any disadvantage for their career as any other human being has with their CV. It's all cool about Misplaced Pages policies about free and copyrighted content, but I think neither concert promoters, nor average fans know and understand them.

I have informed him that this does not meet all Misplaced Pages criteria and it's likely to be deleted, I have suggested a couple of newer free pictures to him, none meets his expectations he want this picture up, so I've decided to try it this way and open a discussion about it. Because I think he's right. He can have the whole article deleted as a living person, but he does not have the right to choose the picture? Somehow doesn't match, right?

I think Wiki policies need to be changed that publicity pictures of performing artists, and existing bands may replace a free picture if the artist or their management insist on it. The wrong picture can be resulting in not being booked, which is (I'm sure abuot that) NOT the intention of Misplaced Pages. I think there should be a category "replaceable with a free picture category only if approved by ..." with a link to the responsible contact.

I respect absolutely agree with the principles of Misplaced Pages, it is a treasure for mankind to be able to look up things and it's a good thing to have everything for free. I do not get paid by the records company or anyone else to do this. I have removed commercial links from other articles. A One of the five pillars of Misplaced Pages is neutrality. I don't think replacing the new picture with the old one is neutral. He has really long hair on it, now it's much shorter. So bands looking for a (touring) bassist might not choose him because he does not match their image (either instantly for the long hair, or later for the short hair) So this is clearly a disadvantage for his career.

I'd suggest the following: Until the possible policy change is discussed let the new (copyrighted) pic up and in the article. Please start the discussion in the right place or find someone who does this and set all tags in order to give the picture time until the end of the discussion. I don't know how to do it and I really don't have the time to learn it know.

If you feel you need this "unbelievable" story to be confirmed or for more details contact Lovember Records. www.lovemberrecords.com

You can also suggest alternate free pictures there or discuss other ways to get an appropriate picture up with management or the man himself. I'm totally in between two chairs and want to get out of this discussion as soon as possible. I'm sure you understand I will not disclose neither my my real name nor my e-mail address here. If you want to discuss via e-mail, also contact Lovember Records, they will give you my email address as well.

If the old picture keeps popping up I won't have any other choice than get the photographer withdraw his permission and have the pic deleted from Wiki commons. I don't want to to that, it's a good picture and might be nice to illustrate either Rob De Luca's or the UFO band article at some stage, but it is not applicable as a picture to introduce the subject of the article any more due to the reasons mentioned above.

Thank you for understanding!

Moonslide (talk) 11:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

There is a discussion about this at WT:BLPN#Wiki image policy collides with guidelines for biographies of living persons (or at least with their personal rights) GB fan 13:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

This is an encyclopedia, not a hiring hall or publicity venue. If he wants a web page of his own, he can set up one for nothing on MySpace or some other popular website that allows the subject to control his public image. And the license has already been granted, irrevocably. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Williams v. Pryor

{{db-copyvio}} should be used "in unequivocal cases, where there is no free-content material on the page worth saving and no later edits requiring attribution". In this case, the entire "Recent challenges" section was not a copyright violation and I had already blanked the suspect areas with {{subst:copyvio}} for further investigation. If there is a complaint via OTRS, in the future it would be greatly appreciated if you could indicate that in both the edit summary and the speedy deletion template (and just to nitpick, the correct link is either Ticket:2012080710007952 or OTRS:6642248, not otrs:2012080710007952) so that admins are aware that there is more to the situation and where to look. VernoWhitney (talk) 15:03, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Secret Service codename

Added the Keyes article to the refs for Hillary in 2008. Says "His opponent in the Democratic primary, Hillary Clinton, kept "Evergreen," her codename from husband Bill Clinton's presidency." I agree that that is needed.Naraht (talk) 17:55, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, I noticed with this edit you reverted the page to a previous vandalized version, that ClueBot has reverted, (and was the final disruptive edit before that user was blocked indef), and you left no edit summary. Your unexplained revert popped up on all the watchlists of those watching that page. I don't know about the others, but I was in the process of reverting you when you made your subsequent edit. I know that shortly after you changed that edit again, correcting the content and adding both a ref and summary, but can I suggest that in the future you just do all that with a single manual edit? Thanks - WOLFchild 17:38, 18 February 2018 (UTC)

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Steven Giordano

Hello, just replying to you message on my talk page. The editor originally thought if the MCPON did not have 12 consecutive years of good conduct, he/she would be a "red chevron" MCPON, which is not the case. There has never been a red chevron MCPON in the history of the office. The MCPON is personally appointed by the CNO. Prior to 2019, an enlisted sailor is not entitle to wear gold chevrons unless they have had 12 consecutive years of good conduct. A sailor could loose their gold chevrons and revert back to red chevrons, if their bad conduct warranted such a discipline. In turn, the sailor would have to serve an addition 12 consecutive years of good conduct to earn their gold chevrons again. With that being said, the chances of a MCPON being appointed, who did not have 12 consecutive years of good conduct is unheard of, since the MCPON represents the interest all Navy enlisted forces. The CNO would not appoint a leader with such a cloud of controversy.

In the case of MCPON Steven S. Giordano, he ended up resigning and voluntarily retired in 2018. There has never been a MCPON would has decided to remain in the Navy after leaving office. Even if Giordano had wanted to remain in the Navy he would not be serving as MCPON, and would have reverted back to being a master chief. I'm basing this under the assumption that he would not have been demoted from E-9 paygrade, since the Navy did allow him to retire as a MCPON. No other MCPON had ever faced discipline while in office, so there is no other precedence. Since Giordano retired as a MCPON, and since the Navy has never had a "red chevron" MCPON insignia before, I truly doubt that the Navy would waste the time and taxpayer money to specially make a red chevron MCPON insignia for one, lone, retired individual.

Finally, the policy governing "red chevrons" and "gold chevrons" was amended on June 1, 2019 by the Chief of Naval Personnel. All enlisted sailors now automatically transition from red to gold after hit their 12-year mark, regardless of good or bad conduct. Even so, the possibility of there being a MCPON with less than 12 years of service in the Navy is virtually impossible, as the CNO would usually set a minimum 16-20 years of service, as well as the master chief must have also held a senior leadership position in their E-9 paygrade: command master chief, fleet master chief, or force master chief). I hope this explanation helps clears up your confusion. Neovu79 (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

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