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== Leaving Wipedia ==


I noticed. Sorry to see you go. I think you did good editing work, as long as it didn't require you to deal with other editors. Maybe you should just take time off and see what happens at the arbitration case, before you decide to leave permanently.--] (]) 13:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I prefer '''''clean comments'''''. Please don't watch this page as I consider that to be harassment. The additional rules I have is no name calling and no "wiki-bullying". Thanks.
:I am leaving Misplaced Pages <u>without any strings attached</u>. Officially, and '''FOR GOOD'''. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 15:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


== Sorry but I'm adios ==
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Sorry but after 2 years, I'm voluntarily adios. The fact that you got involved in a conspiracy to place me under arbitration is the last straw. Therefore go to another editor if you want various articles to be edited. I don't have any time to waste with Misplaced Pages anymore. I leave Misplaced Pages with this one warning: there will be even more fragile editors like myself and soon there will be opposition to Misplaced Pages's oppresive rules that y'all will have to think things. I don't care about those articles anymore and nobody cared about my edits anyway. Sorry, but I'm voluntarily finished here. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 12:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Page last archived by &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 13:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
:I think that last message is very telling of what exactly is wrong with your attitude... There's no conspiracy nor are we, or have we ever, tried to oppress your content on Misplaced Pages articles. If anything, your edits to the articles were more than good for most editors I've seen around here. The entire point of all this was to get you to recognize that you are not the only person on Misplaced Pages and therefore you need to interact more respectfully with others. That's it. Somehow you keep seeing this as an attack on your edits but it seriously isn't... not remotely. What rule did you exactly find so oppressive? How have we treated you in a mean or vindictive manner? In either case, life will move on here with you here or not, no need for such warnings of doom. ''']''' ]|] 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:I explicitly stated that it wasn't an attack. I'm only trying to lend a hand in solving the problem. You're a good editor; just have a bad attitude. &mdash; ] <sup><i>(])</i></sup> 18:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)


::Vesther, you're one of the editors I look up to. You've been contributing to '']'' articles and I've learned a thing or two from it. Actually, a lot more than that. I hope you'll change your mind and come back, because you're one of the Wikipedians that make up Misplaced Pages. --] 23:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
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== Hope to see you Soon! ==
== Notification AN/I ==


Sorry to see you go! After all its nice to have someone watch my back when I needed some help! I hope you don't mind but I put the Barnstar I gave you back on your user page... Since I think you still deserve it :-) Your pal Phoenix! -- ] 05:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
You should be aware that {{user|Crossmr}} has requested administrative intervention regarding your past incivility:
*].
You're a valuable contributor usually, but it appears that you're often provoked by others. I was reading what people have said to you people said to you and some of the comments were very upsetting. However, it is very, very important to stay civil in the face of such behaviour. Your opponents can use it against you to ignore and dismiss your arguments.


Regarding this AN/I request that Crossmr posted, don't worry too much about it. You won't be banned or indefinitely blocked just from this, though continuing on this road will lead to more trouble and eventually an indefinite block. Just focus on your future behavior and you'll be fine. –'']'' 18:26, 17 June 2007 (UTC)


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:Can you provide any diffs of the comments you find upsetting? I was reviewing this case on AN/I and the diffs provided there by Crossmr only show Mark is very easily provoked. Maybe you would like to tell your side of the story at AN/I.
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:On an unrelated note: no one needs your permission to watch your talk page, since you don't own it.--] (]) 15:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)


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== Anon from Singapore==
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In the future please refrain from referring to editors as "untrusted". An editor is by no means considered untrustworthy just because they don't have an account. A minor change such as that didn't warrant such a negative labeling. .--] 14:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:It was likely a vandal who did excessive cruft-editing. At this point, I'm going to have to consider this as being harassment. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 15:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
::You can revert that and make that change without referring to the editor as such. Regardless of who you think the editor might be, a change of "a bit" to "a lot" is not vandalism. That is a content dispute.--] 15:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:::I take editing patterns very seriously, and that anon's editing pattern was noticeable. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 18:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
::::His edit pattern is immaterial. Referring to an editor as "untrusted" in an edit summary is neither civil nor necessary to fix the content issue.--] 18:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

::::Still, this IP should not be reverted without prejudice due to its edit history alone. Misplaced Pages is ideally very leniant and forgiving of its contributors. This idea is partially covered under ]. –'']'' 22:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

:::::The user, known as "S8823140F", a.k.a. Denise Christie Chan, apparently utilized that IP address to "fly under the radar" to damage the IP's reputation for being a good editor. There will be people who will have a wanton disregard of ], ], even ]. Some users who have created Misplaced Pages accounts in the past decided to demonstrate their wanton disregard by editing as anons. There are also responsible anons who don't commit such wanton disregard.
:::::There has been some good anons who are resourceful and try their best to keep their cool here in Misplaced Pages (I've seen some good anons in some articles that I watch), but this anon from Singapore, who is usually Denise Christie Chan (wikipedia account S8823140F, likes to "fly under the radar" as an anon) likes to demonstrate their wanton disregard of WP:NOT and WP:VSCA by putting nothing but cruft on the article, even damage the talk page with all crystal-ballism that I had to revert/remove a couple of times. Because I know what this anon has been doing on Time Crisis 4 pretty much before (and judging from the cruft removal notices this anon has been receiving), I believe that caution should be used and anons be monitored heavily to ensure that they do not damage Misplaced Pages. Wordiness also came to mind as well, as all RVs/RMs had been WP:VSCA.
:::::Therefore, I believe that anons have to be monitored carefully to ensure they do not damage Misplaced Pages, as there have been anons who've been showing wanton disregard by vandalising and/or damaging the articles. Dell and Bose are high-profile brand names and in the past they've been severely damaged. Other articles also have been damaged as well, though articles that have been damaged in the past was not from a resulting vandalism act, but rather a heated dispute. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 00:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

::::::Yeah, ] appears to have a history IP sock puppet abuse, as seen ]. As for the IP, it appears to belong to ] meaning it's likely utilized by many more people than just S8823140F. You're right that this situation and others like it should be watched very closely to preserve the integrity of articles. It's very important, and is good work. However, you cannot be indiscriminate. Look closely and try to keep any good edits. If you don't like an edit, revert it and explain what's wrong with the contribution itself in your opinion. –'']'' 01:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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The reason why that anon's edits were easily reverted is because of a couple of things: wordiness, cruft, crystal-ballism, WP:VSCA, ]&mdash;the anon had a wanton disregard of ] and ]. &mdash; '''''Mark Kim''''' (] * ] * ]) 23:59, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
:All those things clearly don't apply to this very small edit you reverted. Also, who is to say this IP address is always used by the same person? An anon's long-term edit history is irrelevant because IP's aren't bound to a person. Anyway, you failed to assume good faith, which is considered a paramount principle of Wiki-editing. No need to keep defending it, just let it go and don't do it again.--] (]) 00:28, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:Your edit was to restore a sentence to equally fail ]. Whether that sentence read "a lot" or "a bit" it was inherently unverifiable. If you were that concerned about the edit meeting ] you should have removed the entire sentence. Instead you changed it to read what you wanted, and insulted the editor while doing so.--] 03:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

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Leaving Wipedia

I noticed. Sorry to see you go. I think you did good editing work, as long as it didn't require you to deal with other editors. Maybe you should just take time off and see what happens at the arbitration case, before you decide to leave permanently.--Atlan (talk) 13:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I am leaving Misplaced Pages without any strings attached. Officially, and FOR GOOD. — Mark Kim (U * T/R * CTD) 15:34, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry but I'm adios

Sorry but after 2 years, I'm voluntarily adios. The fact that you got involved in a conspiracy to place me under arbitration is the last straw. Therefore go to another editor if you want various articles to be edited. I don't have any time to waste with Misplaced Pages anymore. I leave Misplaced Pages with this one warning: there will be even more fragile editors like myself and soon there will be opposition to Misplaced Pages's oppresive rules that y'all will have to think things. I don't care about those articles anymore and nobody cared about my edits anyway. Sorry, but I'm voluntarily finished here. — Mark Kim (U * T/R * CTD) 12:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I think that last message is very telling of what exactly is wrong with your attitude... There's no conspiracy nor are we, or have we ever, tried to oppress your content on Misplaced Pages articles. If anything, your edits to the articles were more than good for most editors I've seen around here. The entire point of all this was to get you to recognize that you are not the only person on Misplaced Pages and therefore you need to interact more respectfully with others. That's it. Somehow you keep seeing this as an attack on your edits but it seriously isn't... not remotely. What rule did you exactly find so oppressive? How have we treated you in a mean or vindictive manner? In either case, life will move on here with you here or not, no need for such warnings of doom. Sasquatch t|c 15:56, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I explicitly stated that it wasn't an attack. I'm only trying to lend a hand in solving the problem. You're a good editor; just have a bad attitude. — Selmo 18:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Vesther, you're one of the editors I look up to. You've been contributing to The Apprentice articles and I've learned a thing or two from it. Actually, a lot more than that. I hope you'll change your mind and come back, because you're one of the Wikipedians that make up Misplaced Pages. --Sli723 23:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hope to see you Soon!

Sorry to see you go! After all its nice to have someone watch my back when I needed some help! I hope you don't mind but I put the Barnstar I gave you back on your user page... Since I think you still deserve it :-) Your pal Phoenix! -- UKPhoenix79 05:16, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


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