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==Happy New Year==
* Wow... knew you'd gone inactive, but since summer of 2007 I find surprising... getting so I don't know any admins anymore. Sigh. Be well. Hope the book went well. // <b>]</b>] 01:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


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== my proposal ==

Hi,

I just announced I am stepping away from the proposal discussion for several days. I know I have polarized the discussion, which I didn't want to do. If you are willing, I hope you will visit the page periodically and do whatever you can or think is appropriate to facilitate discussion between '''both''' sides.

Thanks

Steve

== Album Format ==

Why do you continually revert my edits in which I use the standard album format for albums like ]? You do not provide any feedback as to why you are violating the standard format, which leaves me no option but to revert it back. How many times do I have to ask you to please please please explain why you revert something? This is just good practice.

--] 15:48, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

You keep referring to the Naming Convention page as your reason. I don't see how that applies to the page format, can you please be more specific?

--] 03:41, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Please read my comment from 18 May on ] and respond explaining where my logic is flawed. Unless you explain to me otherwise I'm going to assume I'm right, as is the case with most people. And how come you get to revert articles before a decision but I can't?--] 01:28, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

== Universism ==

Sorry - didn't realize that was a previously vfd'd article! I was trying to fix the redlink in ] - I'll unlink it to avoid future recreations. --] ]<small>] 17:53, 2005 May 17 (UTC)

== Don't waste my time ==

. <big>''''']'''''</big> 23:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

:And don't revert my talk page. Thanks, <big>''''']'''''</big> 23:05, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

== Titles ==

Hi. I've looked for any mistakes I might have made in my headers and titles, and only have really found one. I have used "The album" as a non-descriptive header which I should have probably called something else. The titles of my articles for the Donovan albums are simply the name of the album. The only time I add (album) after the title is if someone has created or might create another article with that name. For example, I put "Catch the Wind (album)" because another user may want to write about "Catch the Wind (song)". If this is incorrect or if I'm completely missing the boat, please let me know. --]

== ] ==

Thanks. I know, that my English is too far from good, being influenced by Lithuanian, Russian and other languages, all of them are synthetic, but majority of our “Lithuanian” users aren't native English speakers, so they simply skip this thing and I almost don't have chances to improve my “Wikipedian” English. (I wrote the article in English anyway, a translation would be ''better''). But when You see this criterion, I see yet another thing: the present article is biased too much. I can add only few notes here: 1) Lithuanian mythology isn't an old mythology anyway (differently from archaic Lithuanian language). Perhaps it have some archaic elements, but it isn't old as whole. 2) Only few details are known from earlier stages of Lithuanian mythology before the 19th century, but exactly these details are the most interesting for many scholars, being a part of “more pagan” heritage than the later ones. 3) Thus many scholars tried to reconstruct (or perhaps we should use the word 'restore' instead of 'reconstruct' in English?) system of these earlier stages of mythology. Their works, including studies of P. Dundulien&#279;, are mostly speculations on mythology, but not an actual mythology. Unhappily there are many different point of view on this problem with no any prevalent point of view. - And I don't think, that my version is perfect, looking from this point too, but I tried to write the main things, that it become more possible to write a future not biased version of the article. This is the second thing, why my version could be less understandable than the earlier one.

And I could also add few ideas there:
#What concerns term ''pagan'' mythology, many users consider this word ''pagan'' offensive. But I have more serious reasons to avoid this word. The definition in the article ] includes not Jewish, not Christian, and not Islamic, but many people understand “monotheistic” under this word. The idea of the supreme God and “a cabinet” of Gods isn't expressed in Lithuanian mythology (except in speculations of one school restorations), and we can't call it polytheistic. It was rather pantheistic than monotheistic or polytheistic and confronted neither with monotheistic point of view nor with polytheistic one. Thats why I'd like to avoid this ''pagan'', that can be misunderstood. I don't want to add pantheistic too, for this word has a bit different sense in Western philosophy, than what I mean, but I think some suitable definition is possible.
#The all present list of gods in the article is actually alphabetic list of names, mentioned as divine entities, in old (13th - 16th centuries) treatises on history or philosophy. Only few of them are known from known myths. The authors of these treatises often use word 'gods' in the sense of 'idols' or 'worshipped objects', and looking both from the point of the modern mythology and from the point of deeper analyzing of these texts, the objects, meant under these names, shouldn't be called gods presently, except few specific cases. Deeper analyze of it shows, that not only gods, spirits and other spiritual and superhuman beings but also some holy (ritual or magic) things are mentioned here under the title of god. And the one school only from two or four among Lithuanian mythologists consider, that such approach is similar to the actual understanding of the holy entities in the earlier Lithuanian mythology. So this list gives us some information, but it doesn't characterize Lithuanian mythology, although taking the bigger part of the text.

Perhaps, these two ideas will help You to understand, what did I want, and what improvement the article needs. I also will try to answer Your questions on the article gladly, because my main idea was to improve the article, not preferring my own specific ideas or thoughts. ](]) 09:23, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== James Carter and Misplaced Pages Style ==

Hello,

First I must thank you for creating the article on James Carter. I added him to the list of requested musicians several days ago, so I am very appreciative that you took the time to create an article.

My question regards an element of wikipedia style. You recently edited the "Born January 3..." into "b. January 3..." I am a new user (though I have contributed anonymously for a couple of months), so I am not completely familiar with the minute details of Misplaced Pages style. Is this the correct way to write out the birthdate? Should I always abbreviate the "Born"? I welcome any advice you can offer as an admin.

You're right, sorry I didn't sign what I wrote above. I'm still getting used to this. Anyway, you responded to me about Lithuanian mythology, not the question regarding the James Carter article. I guess that means that someone out there is still waiting for an answer from you regarding Lithuanian Mythology. And, of course, my question still stands. Thanks for your help.
--] 12:53, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

:PMFJI, I stumbled over the same problem. From what I have seen, writing out "born" is more common in WP which (unlike traditional reference books) doesn't have to save space by using abbreviations. Personally, I try to use abbreviations only when they seem to make the text more readable (e.g. km&sup2;). ] 15:59, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

::(I normally reply on my correspondents' Talk pages, as I did with Sophitus, but as there are two of you...)
::I see the point concerning "born", but we probably disagree concerning when it's more helpful to abbreviate and when not. For example, I go along with the MoS in preferring to spell out "kilometre", partly because the km&sup2; is actually rather difficult for many people (because of their monitors or their eyesight); I prefer "c." to "circa" on the other hand because it's the standard abbreviation, and the full term can confuse people who understand the import of the abbreviation, but are unfamilar with what it abbreviates. ] (] 16:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== More sterling scholarship from Trey Stone ==

Check this out: . Better add that article to your watchlist too. -- ] 10:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
:My first ever experience with him today (in which he managed to get banned for 24 hrs over a 3RR violation, and irritate me over purely minor, technical matters) proved to be... quite something. See the Castro article and respective talk page for more whiney details. ] 11:00, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== ] ==

I did comment on ] - basically, it's unwise to leave a copyvio in the history if we don't have to. There was no rush to redirect, so i thought it better to let the copyvio process run its course. I see you've now speedied the copyvio, but whatever. ] ] 11:29, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
:That sounds really snappy, for which I apologise. (I really shouldn't edit while I'm in a bad mood, i.e. from 9 to 5.) And yes, I do love redirects, but I hate copyvios even more. Copyvios are about as far from a ''"💕"'' as it's possible to get. ] ] 12:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== Free Will again ==

Hello Mel, if you're still interested in the article, I have the whole section on free will posted at ]. Forgive me if I seem a bit obsessed with the topic; it's normal for me to stick to one topic until it is closed. In this case, I'm not entirely convinced with what you said that they might not have understood the question of free will. I'm posting this article section so that you can take a look, because I think they might actually have understood the question of free will. Cheers - ]]] 21:20, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== Rfc's ==

It was all getting too much at Solana. I was wrongly accused of being Cumbey's sockpuppet and Kfc was demanding i stop editing Javier Solana when i was in the middle of extended edits to improve the article. I know there has been opposition to my withdrawing the Rfc, and that Kfc wants me to restart it. I am due to talk to him soon, but feel very torn about what to do. I am trying to bring Cumbey back in to wikipedia through a less enforcement approach. She is interested in and knows a lot about Solana, and I just wanted to try to see if she could change her ways. It is a difficult one, and I am not entirely clear about where to go (will chat to Kfc first). I think Whig is a completely different situation. I am not opposed to many of his new styles and was supportive of his style change at ], but was also aware of the chaos he was creating in lots of places. Then he made some pretty flaky edits at ] and ], and, after thinking about it I reverted some of them, some of which he then reverted, so I just felt I have experienced what the problem creating the Rfc is, and the trickiness of Whig, and as I was in agreement with what I read, I signed, --] 22:00, May 18, 2005 (UTC).
I have reconsidered after your remarks, and changed my position re Whig, and yes, the Rfc is not the way to go, --] 23:42, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
:When i signed I had assumed the good faith of those making the Rfc against Whig. I am now not sure, so thanks for flagging it, --] 02:20, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

== Re: ] - Don't revert what is mere ] ==
For trifles such as my forgetting a tilde and your pointing it out, my adding the missing timestamp and deleting your pointing it out isn't "rewriting history" (as you accuse on my talk page) but mere ] and "Delete, Don't Justify". Such unimportant trifles didn't mandate your reverting the page (as a minor edit, no less) and thus deleting my answer. I've reverted back to the answered page (and inserted a note about the refactoring). -- , not marked as a minor edit and clearly summarized as "''Answered Mel Etitis about bans + Transient trifles: fixed my previous comment's poor wording of "permanent vandalism" and timestamp faux-pas, then deleted Mel Etitis' comment about them.)''"

&larr;<SUP>]</SUP><SUB>] 23:12, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
:Refactoring isn't policy or widely accepted as several other admins have pointed out to me. ] 23:37, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

== "Necessarily" ==

The problem, Mel, is that very few people actually agree on what is and is not the "mainstream" when it comes to self-defense ideas. That is why I believe NPOV requires the term "necessarily" when it comes to a value judgment on my views. Who decided that they are not "mainstream," and on what basis? Plenty of people view sports as just that -- sports -- and thus do not see MMA bouts as self-defense training. Plenty of firearms advocates believe left-wing supporters of firearms prohibition cannot truly practice self-defense while embracing such a paradox -- and so forth.

I think the vague nature of the term "mainstream" demands the term "necessarily" because so few people can disagree -- and there is no one authority to whom we can go on the subject.

- Phil Elmore

== ArbCom ==

Check this out: ]. The ArbCom, at least based on the initial comments of Fred Bauder, is going further into the content issues than I had expected. Stay tuned. -- ] 14:43, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

==Planting Fields Arboretum==
Hectares are the standard metric measurement for land areas in this size range; also '']'' can't be grown on Long Island (it isn't winter hardy there); the reference ''probably'' refers to either '']'' or '']'', but I don't know which, so left it out - ] 14:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:As I've understood the Wiki MOS in the past, hectares are permitted (and advised) in situations where they are the normal metric unit used (i.e., forestry, agriculture, horticulture, etc). I'm well aware that Bobblewik has been running what I can only think of as a personal vendetta against the hectare, trying to remove every reference to it anywhere in wikipedia; he has been taken to task over this repeatedly (see his talk page) but still seems to be pursuing it; I am wondering if he has changed the MOS to reflect his apparent prejudices. I would certainly consider that the hectare is the best unit to use as a "translation" of the acre where that has been used. <br/>Of Sequoia, its hardiness is well researched; NY is ''well'' (by several hundred km) outside its potential cultivation range. Looking at the website, it almost certainly refers to ''Sequoiadendron giganteum'' (Giant Sequoia), not ''Sequoia sempervirens'' (Coast Redwood). As an aside, I couldn't help notice that a lot of the wiki page is copied verbatim from the arboretum website, and is likely in violation of their copyright - ] 17:47, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks for the note;<br/>
"Ah, you mean that I've been hoodwinked? I did check "hectare" (I'm not a complete mooncalf), and found that it is indeed not an offical SI unit, so I just assumed that he was right about the rest. Pish." - I would say yes! :-) It is true that it is a derived unit, not a base SI unit, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be used in relevant situations.<br/>
"On the copyright front, I did originally question the person who created the page, and he admited to lifting the text, but said that he was editing it away from the original. I checked a couple of times, and he was indeed doing that, but then I let it slide. My suspicion is that the arboretum wouldn't object to our article; should I contact them to ask?" - Good idea; I'd suspect you're almost certainly right, they'll be happy to see it there once they know what it's about (after all, it comes down to free advertising) - ] 18:00, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== deletions ==

Scanning live RC, I was not sure why you deleted ]. The content was poor (just a list), but certainly not nonsense, and the topic is clearly encyclopedic and readily expandible. In the future, please make sure that something meets the criteria before you speedy it. ] 14:39, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry about the triplicates, the database was glitchy and I couldn't tell if it was taking the edits at all. You'll notice I fixed it literally within seconds. As for the deletion, I'm not trying to pick a fight &mdash; I've certainly been accused by more than one person of being a deletionist myself &mdash; but I would argue that that article did NOT meet the very restricted speedy criteria, especially since it had context. ]. You have to give editors a *chance* to expand a reasonable subject area article before just blasting it off the map within minutes of creation. Deletion policy guidelines suggest such articles should be stub tagged rather than deleted. ] 14:56, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Essex girl ==

] redirects to ] (as you know) which gives not a clue as to what an essex girl is or why the redirect occured.

I followed up and found and and that lead me to wonder why essex girls shouldn't be treated the same as ].

Cheers, ] 16:24, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

: Mel, I have to agree with 4.250.201.64. Redirecting it either to stereotype or to dumb blonde is plain ''wrong''. Essex girl is far more than dumb blonde - there's a significant cultural aspect, with noted characters, specific fashion, and indeed no requirement that essex girl either be blonde or dumb. I really don't want to get into an edit war with you over such a trivial matter, but it's difficult not to when you seem intent on making ill informed changes unilaterally, and without the courtesy of discussing them. -- ] (] | ]) 17:16, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

: Mel, I don't mean to insult you. But none of your edits to the Essex girl article indicate that you understand of the topic. Maybe I'm mistaken. Perhaps you'd care to explain why you think Pauline Calf is a dumb blonde? -- ] (] | ]) 17:23, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

==The Image==

I found an image identical to the one that Speedway had previously posted in ] article. This time, I went through all the trouble to find that it can legally be used. And boy, it was not easy. So I hope it makes a good article intro-image. ] 20:13, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

== Ratification on honorifics ==

I put together what I hope is a ] - would appreciate if you copyedit it to make it more neutral where possible. I hope that pointing out the issues will help avoid them in the future. However, I am frustrated with the changed presentation of the vote from the Survey to the Ratification and doubt I have been as neutral as I should be. Can you take a look? {{User:Trödel/sig}} 23:40, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for taking a look - and making the changes - especially the stylistic ones - they helped the clarity {{User:Trödel/sig}} 11:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

== I hope this reaches you ==

Dear Professor of Philosophy;

I am enjoying reading your commentaries in Widipedia and viewing the beautiful photos you have posted, too.

Please contact me at seasonalsusan@yahoo.com

I have several questions about OUPress that I hope you may be able to answer or might suggest where I may find the answers I seek.

Thanks so much.


I noticed {merge} flags on both the ] and ] pages back in August 2008. I added my full agreement to such a merger on both article's talk pages and, rather breezily, said that without any dissent from elsewhere, I would effect the merge procedure by the end of 2008. God knows why I did, because I have got cold feet. I do not think there is anything contentious, just that the procedure looks a little daunting to me. Could you oblige, or give me a fool's guide as to how to effect it. Do not lead me to the Wiki help pages for mergers - that gave the cold feet in the first place. Your obedient, cack handed and addled old fool,
Susan


] (]) 18:36, 23 February 2009 (UTC)




==File copyright problem with File:Khuê Văn Các.jpg==
== Mr Tan ==
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I'm back. Sorry about the delay in repling your message, partially due to my computer problems. Concerning about your attitude towards me, I am currently still analysing about it.


If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the ]. Thanks again for your cooperation.<!-- Template:Di-no license-notice --> ▫ ''']''' 01:12, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
I have already seen your biodata in your userpage. I believe you are currently a philosopher and English teacher by profession, teaching in the University of Oxford.


== Criticism_of_Israel ==
Would you mind if I call you a professor? I don't want you to be so harsh and violent, and that is exactly what you are, I'm afraid. I am willing to learn from you, however hard it can become. I'm sorry if you think if I'm to arrogant or ignorant, but your edits are too unjustificable. But a teacher like you needs to show is some care and attention to a student.


On December 29, 2006, you deleted ]. I can't find any reference to a discussion about why. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Can we edit articles collaboratively, rather than reverting every now and then? I have also witnessed that your group have already completed the copyediting of ] and ], but still, the standard of Zanskar and these two articles stated above are considerable.


==AfD nomination of Triumphant Institute of Management Education==
If you won't mind, can you please sit back patiently, and let me copyedit ] first? Your reverts has not enabled me to prove my capabilities. I will make one more revert--If you still do not agree with the following above, I will explain you until you understand my motives--it seems that you still have a low understanding of it before I revert. (However, it doesn't seem to make sense after my gramatical explanations at the talk page, and you suddenly change your attitude for the worse)
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0">]</div>An article that you have been involved in editing, ], has been listed for ]. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at ]. Thank you.{{-}}Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.<!-- Template:Adw --> ] (]) 07:02, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


==Fair use rationale for File:The Windy City Strugglers.jpg==
I also like to stress that many of your reverts make things from bad to worse, especially in the context of spelling errors. I would like to notify you that there is no need to use formal English in the context of discussions. My english has its flaws, I understand, and I'm willing to learn.
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Ah yes, before I forget, I would like to discuss with you about the arbitration matter. Forget about the response in the RfC, for I think that if-----if ever arbitration will be held against you and your fellow buddies, I think that that is the most suitable place.


==Wojciech Bruszewski==
''You have now placed an (oddly worded) accusation of vandalism on my Talk page. Why do you refuse to learn from your experiences? You're criticised and resisted by every editor on the articles that you edit, you're the subject of a unanimously critical RfC, '' I’m afraid, that this statement is made by me in response to ''Mr Tan, having been assured by a number of editors that the Zanskar article is grammatically and stylistically fine, has placed the "gcheck" template on it and started to "correct" good English to bad (creating verbless sentrences, mangling syntax, etc.). He's done this repeatedly, and is immune to explanation. It's difficult to see that this is less than unacceptable, and it at least comes close to vandalism.''. (Not amounting to insult you), but what the statement above of yours is exactly what you are yourself, for you have reverted many of the edits which you think is bad at the expense of the good edits. I cannot tolerate insults or people with a stiff and stubborn attitude.
You deleted Wojciech Bruszewski - why? He was a great Polish artist, innovator and video artist with an international reputation who has recently died aged 62. See this (and translate) - http://pl.wikipedia.org/Wojciech_Bruszewski


David Hall
If you can change for the better, I can forgive (but not forget) you. I want you, to have a friendly, rather than your current and hostile attitude towards article editing.


:An article with content and sources that is not a copyright violation is unlikely to be deleted. In this instance, the article was identified as a copyright violation. 21:49, 2005 April 10 Mel Etitis (talk | contribs) deleted "Wojciech Bruszewski" ‎ (content was: '{{tl|d}} www.voytek.pl') ] ] 15:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
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Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 ] (]) 01:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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I would like you to explain to me how
is a personal attack. It was left on ]'s talk page, not on ]'s talk page, and does not say "Felonious Monk is a bastard" or something. The ] have a saying "''Keep the bastards honest''." They are refering to the 2 main parties in Austalia, the Labor and Liberal parties. No-one finds this offensive, so if Felonious Monk finds what Sam said offensive, then he is being overly sensitive. Sam has told me that he was just trying to give Ungtss encouragement, and was not trying to slander anyone. I'm not claiming Sam is a paragon of good, but if he hasn't actually made a personal attack, then don't try to claim he has. And don't answer to this by dredging up every comment Sam has ever made, I am asking about ''this'' particular comment, and why ''it'' is thought to be a PA. --] 11:59, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
:So in other words you are throwing our fundamental principle - ] out the window. Also, it is a saying. If he had said, "user x and user y are bastards, don't let them grind you down" or something, that would be a PA. I remain unconvinced. And no, I don't expect you to try and convince me, I am just upset that you are <del>harassing<del> a person who seems to be trying to better himself and his relationship with fellow wikipedians. --] 12:32, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
::Ok, I'm sorry I said that, I have retracted it. Here are a couple of examples:
, please note SLR's response on Sam's talk page as well. and . Not to mention I came on to wikipedia severely disliking Sam for his exchanges with ]. He and I have discussed this. I shouldn't be trying to convince you though, if you want to know more about Sam Spade I suggest you have a conversation with him.


Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 ] (]) 01:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
:Citing El C as support that Sam is ''"trying to better himself"'' is off the mark considering that El C was alongside me also alluded to as being a bastard by Sam, a point not lost on him .


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:As for your suggestion that if Mel wanted to know more about Sam he should have a conversation with him, don't assume he hasn't... most encounters were marked by Sam pointedly insulting Mel , so that idea is a non-starter.
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::My point in making that first post was to ask why Mel thought it was a personal attack, when I couldn't see how it was, and Sam has told me that he did not intend it to be. The reason El C comented on Sam's maintenance task was due to his belief that Sam does not like him, and therefore thought it strange. I already said not to dredge up the past, as it doesn't change whether or not this was a personal attack. By saying that it is a personal attack for no better reason than because of Sam's past behaviour is ignoring our princile of "assuming good faith." And in regards to my suggestion that Mel should have a conversation with Sam, the examples you've shown are not conversations, they are arguments on a wikipedia discussion page. When I say conversation, I mean a friendly get to know you conversation not stemming from disagreements over article content. Everyone says stupid things that they come to regret. And have you considered that Sam didn't apologise because he didn't believe he'd made a PA? I'm not here to defend Sam, I'm here to argue whether or not what he said was a PA. That has been done. Sorry for discussing this on your talk page Mel. --] 18:35, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
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] is a stub article. What do we do with stub articles? We ''expand'' them! This afternoon, my brother spent a lot of time expanding it, only to have it reverted to it's original form, by you. If it can't be expanded, then may I why there is a stub there in the first place? ] 17:40, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
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I recently saw that you had reinserted a comment on Sam Spade's talk page that he had censored, only to notice that he censored it yet again. I reverted it yesterday, he objected on my talk page, removed it, and I added it again. I'm sure he'll remove it once again. Can users censor their talk pages? I don't believe that you own your own talk page -- you should be able to select whatever format you like, but you should not be able to remove comments that critique your actions (unless we're just talking about a string of obscenities). Perhaps you know more about this. Thank you for your time, and for your many valuable contributions! --] 21:56, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
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If you still think Zanskar is good enough, tell me then, how you define the article is ''good'' in contrast to the already-copyedited ]. You have reverted all the edits everytime I make one, always at the expense of good ones.
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I also see that you have reverted my edits in ]. The words should be in bold, as it is in most other articles, and I'm trying to wikify it. Are you doing this for the sake of sentimental reasons against me? Tell me then, if you have any.


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The reason why I have put this in is expressely because I don't think it is trivial. Norman Pike's philosophical output has served as the backbone of numerous theistic defences of the problem of evil and should not be overlooked. It has in fact suffered less criticism that Plantinga's thesis which you give so much space to. I therefore think it is presumptious of you to assume its triviality. If I dont have a sufficent reason for your exclusion of this piece I will reintroduce it to the article at some point in the future. Of course if you do put a valid case for its removal then I will be happy to agree, but just putting statements like 'it is trivial' as a reason for its non-inclusion I think undermines your credibility.


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I've just found contact details for Stagecoach in Mansfield in Encyclopaedia Britannica!
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:Let me know if I have this right. With the latest occurrence, you were adding a new section, ended up with an edit conflict, copied the "your text" box (which I assume at this point included the entire article), pasted it into the top box and hit save. I think this fits my theory about how this is happening (since the entire article is in the "your text" box, you're led to think that this is the amount of data invovled in the conflict but copying all of it is not the right input for the resultant "save"). I don't know how receptive the developers will be to changing this, but it seems to me like a clear user interface bug. I hope having a specific instance with a specific user will help. Thanks very much. I assume you won't mind if I quote your experience on this? -- ] 20:11, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
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::I think both the top and bottom boxes have the entire article (top "as is", bottom "your changes"), so whether you copy only your portion of the lower box or the whole thing, the upper box ends up with the entire article and I'm thinking hitting "save" at this point when you started by adding or editing a ''section'' adds the entire article as a new (or replaced) section. -- ] 00:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)


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Marmalade

I noticed {merge} flags on both the Marmalade and Dean Ford and the Gaylords pages back in August 2008. I added my full agreement to such a merger on both article's talk pages and, rather breezily, said that without any dissent from elsewhere, I would effect the merge procedure by the end of 2008. God knows why I did, because I have got cold feet. I do not think there is anything contentious, just that the procedure looks a little daunting to me. Could you oblige, or give me a fool's guide as to how to effect it. Do not lead me to the Wiki help pages for mergers - that gave the cold feet in the first place. Your obedient, cack handed and addled old fool,

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On December 29, 2006, you deleted Criticism_of_Israel. I can't find any reference to a discussion about why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.127.188.10 (talk) 03:07, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

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Wojciech Bruszewski

You deleted Wojciech Bruszewski - why? He was a great Polish artist, innovator and video artist with an international reputation who has recently died aged 62. See this (and translate) - http://pl.wikipedia.org/Wojciech_Bruszewski

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Your deletion

Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 87.112.27.96 (talk) 01:00, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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Why did you delete Wojciech Bruszewski? See http://voytek.pl/ - he was a very important international video art pioneer, and died this year, see http://www.lux.org.uk/blog/wojciech-bruszewski-polish-video-artist-1947-2009 87.112.27.96 (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

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where do you get it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.219.174.230 (talk) 20:40, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

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