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| ==Evolution of name?== | |||
| I deleted this paragraph, it looked like vandalism: | |||
| I reverted an edit that suggested the name for this game evolved from Water Polo. The edit was made by ], and it could be a very nice addition to the article if there was a source to attribute it to. ] (]) 21:32, 11 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :''The historical significance of this game relates back to a time when Marco Polo (age 17) was travelling to China with his father and uncle on their way to see the Great Kublai Khan. Marco was very tired and he fell asleep on his horse. His horse must have sensed this and slowed down dropping back from the caravan. When Marco Polo awoke he did not see his family. He began to hear voices in the desert thinking it was the caravan calling for him. He was later found it was not his family calling: he was hallucinating.'' | |||
| : Yeah, this article gets a lot of edits from people repeating stories/etymologies they've heard. We have to be insistent on sources. ] (]) 22:36, 11 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ] 21:39, 19 December 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::For what it's worth, I second the theory that the name may have come from "Water Polo" as the linked Dictionary survey even mentions "water polo" as one of the most commonly named pool games at the time. Unfortunately, though, I can find no reliable sources which echo this theory. ] (]) 18:55, 29 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :::Well, I found a source which denies the connection. The origins are still a mystery, but at least this theory is referenced now. ] (]) 17:57, 30 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == In the bluff? == | |||
| That's partially true, though most of it is not. | |||
| The text of "blind man's bluff" vs "blind man's buff" has changed a number of times recently, beginning with who called buff a typo, then because it wasn't a typo, then , then since there is a Wisegeek quote using "bluff", then there's . | |||
| Marco Polo was an explorer from china and the game gets its name was him... | |||
| I don't care which version we use, but shouldn't we be consistent across the uses? ] (]) 19:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| :: That doesn't look like vandalism to me. What do you think vandalism is? It may or may not be correct, but it looks like a good faith edit to me. I came here looking for just such a historical note. How does the game relate to the person???? ] 05:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| :Seems like one of those US vs UK spelling debates in mild disguise. Currently it appears that the article is using "bluff" in all three instances. The argument could be made that 'buff' is the more original or more correct variation, but since both are correct and bluff is used by this article's source, I'd like to see that consistency stick. Personally, I also think it sounds better, but that's me. ] (]) 01:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| ::I recall reading an American children's book when I was a kid that referenced "blind man's buff". I don't think it's a crossing-the-pond issue. I think the more contemporary version is "bluff" perhaps as an artifact of misuse over time. ] (]) 01:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| == Relation to Sharks and Minnows == | |||
| :::Yeah, it just brings to mind those articles where hapless but well-meaning readers say "fixed typo. it's aluminum, not aluminium, lol" and consistency tug-of-war (see also: rope war, tug war, war of tug) ensues, haha. ] (]) 02:01, 31 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
| I just created an article for ], but as far as I have always known the rules of play of that game, I don't see any similarity to Marco Polo. Can someone please enlighten to this? | |||
| --] 21:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Australia?== | |||
| For what its worth I had never heard of this game in Australia until I saw it in a '']'' episode. Are we sure it's popular in Australia? | |||
| ] 13:15, 21 July 2006 (UTC) | |||
| *I have never heard of it until I saw it in a ] and nobody I know or have spoken too has heard of it. I'm certain there are other pool games here in Australia but nothing like this. ]<sup><font color="darkblue">]</font></sup> 22:43, 20 October 2006 (UTC) | |||
| I'm Australian and can remember playing Marco Polo with my friends in pools when we were kids. We playing it whenever we had the chance. (Through I've never heard of the "mermaid-on-the-rocks" or being able to look uderwater rules.) | |||
| ==The explorer== | |||
| WHAT DOES MARCO POLO HAVE TO DO WITH THE GAME MARCO POLO? | |||
| The above was placed on the article page, unsigned, on 30 Sep 2006 (]). ] 20:30, 30 September 2006 (UTC) | |||
| ==Bats/moths== | |||
| I have deleted the following paragraph as I live in the U.K and have never come across the game of Bats/moths. I saw marco/polo being shouted in the swimming pools of the characters in seperate episodes of The Simpsons and Family Guy and had no idea what they were doing. | |||
| <I> similar game to be found in some regions of the UK is "Bat/Moth". This can be played in swimming pools or on land, as a large group, with three or four contestants making the bats and moths, with the remainder forming a circle barrier to prevent leaving the game. The game is not widely played. In fact, this may not be played anywhere at all. | |||
| Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/Marco_Polo_%28game%29" | |||
| </I> | |||
| Furthermore, the last sentence of this paragraph in my opinion suffers from sloppy editing, and makes the entire thing useless | |||
| Although "Bat/Moth" may exist (Though I've never heard of it and I'm from England) it is not the same as Marco Polo, which is pretty comon in Egland ] | |||
| == please delete the UK information from the page == | |||
| im also born and bred in london and still live in the uk, and now i have read this page, i remember seeing many programs with this being shown. ive never known marco popo being played in any pool. and when ive seen it on the tv ive never understood what they were doing until now. ive asked people younger and older about this and they dont know anything about this game. im removing the uk information because its wrong. | |||
| I have Played this as a child, and I have lived in England all my life. | |||
| ( 161.51.11.2 ) | |||
| Maybe It depends what part of England your from? Because where I'm from it was a very comon game to play, and I have asked people and they played it. | |||
| Perhaps chaning "UK" to "Parts of England" or something similar would work ] 18:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ==Speedo Torpedo== | |||
| Near to none of the rules are referenced and yet you delete this one? Just because it seems like vandalism does not necessarily make it so. Unless you grew up in the mid-west, please do not judge my helpful edits. I put it back up, I will try to find a source. | |||
| I played this game with my cousins many a summer growing up in Fort Wayne. I can assure you it's real, and yet, in retrospect, somewhat embarrassing (hence the anonymity of this post). | |||
| == Age Range? == | |||
| I've never played this game before, but I don't seem to get why someone put an age limit on it. I understand that it can't be played by kids under 4, but not by people over the age of 18? Us adults do play kiddy games sometimes ;) | |||
| ] 08:43, 22 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Evolution of name?
I reverted an edit that suggested the name for this game evolved from Water Polo. The edit was made by User:Pattycap11, and it could be a very nice addition to the article if there was a source to attribute it to. Lizzius (talk) 21:32, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, this article gets a lot of edits from people repeating stories/etymologies they've heard. We have to be insistent on sources. SQGibbon (talk) 22:36, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I second the theory that the name may have come from "Water Polo" as the linked Dictionary survey even mentions "water polo" as one of the most commonly named pool games at the time. Unfortunately, though, I can find no reliable sources which echo this theory. Scoundr3l (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- Well, I found a source which denies the connection. The origins are still a mystery, but at least this theory is referenced now. Scoundr3l (talk) 17:57, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- For what it's worth, I second the theory that the name may have come from "Water Polo" as the linked Dictionary survey even mentions "water polo" as one of the most commonly named pool games at the time. Unfortunately, though, I can find no reliable sources which echo this theory. Scoundr3l (talk) 18:55, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
In the bluff?
The text of "blind man's bluff" vs "blind man's buff" has changed a number of times recently, beginning with this guy who called buff a typo, then my reversion back to buff because it wasn't a typo, then this change to bluff, then my bringing consistency to bluff since there is a Wisegeek quote using "bluff", then there's this.
I don't care which version we use, but shouldn't we be consistent across the uses? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:55, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
- Seems like one of those US vs UK spelling debates in mild disguise. Currently it appears that the article is using "bluff" in all three instances. The argument could be made that 'buff' is the more original or more correct variation, but since both are correct and bluff is used by this article's source, I'd like to see that consistency stick. Personally, I also think it sounds better, but that's me. Scoundr3l (talk) 01:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- I recall reading an American children's book when I was a kid that referenced "blind man's buff". I don't think it's a crossing-the-pond issue. I think the more contemporary version is "bluff" perhaps as an artifact of misuse over time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, it just brings to mind those articles where hapless but well-meaning readers say "fixed typo. it's aluminum, not aluminium, lol" and consistency tug-of-war (see also: rope war, tug war, war of tug) ensues, haha. Scoundr3l (talk) 02:01, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
- I recall reading an American children's book when I was a kid that referenced "blind man's buff". I don't think it's a crossing-the-pond issue. I think the more contemporary version is "bluff" perhaps as an artifact of misuse over time. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:40, 31 August 2016 (UTC)