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== June 2023 ==
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{{ping|Fowler&fowler}} Shouldn't we include the phrase ''Indian-administered'' somewhere in the lead since we have ] written there? - ] (]) 10:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)


:Yes. I'll take a look. Thanks. ]] 11:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
The picture shown on this article as kashmiris is not suitable. Clearly these people are looking non-Koshur speaking people whereas the article is about koshur speaking kashmiris.


== September 2023 ==
== "related groups" info removed from infobox ==
== Why is a group photo of prostitutes of ambiguous origins from 19th century is being shown as "representative" of Kashmiris ==


Why is a group photo of ambiguous origin prostitutes (or Nautch girls) in 19th century Srinagar are being shown as an example of "Kashmiris". These prostitutes were always of cosmopolitan origins from various regions of South Asia and were related to prostitutes found in neighboring kingdoms like Punjab, Delhi and Lucknow etc. These were never of any kind of pure origin. Only farmers of Kashmir valley living in the villages of Kashmir valley since centuries are the true representative of the ethnicity called "Kashmiris".
For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all {{tl|Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left on the ''']'''. ] 23:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for leaving a note. I don't think it should be a problem. ] 05:06, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


== January 2024 ==
Ethnic Kashmiris look very different compared to the normal populous of India. They have light skin, hair color ranges from red to light brown and have eye colors ranging from blue to brown. Gujjars and ] found towards the south in Jammu are of darker skin tone and resemble their ] neighbors whilst the Ladakhis of the North East resemble their Tibetan neighbors.


Christianity should be added as a religious 'Minority' following Sikhism in the list. https://www.census2011.co.in/data/religion/state/1-jammu-and-kashmir.html
The reason why I removed the above extract was because I deemed it irrelevant; this article is not a comparison of two ethnic groups. Also, no reference has been provided.


I don't know how to make edits and would appreciate someone who does know how to edit, to please do so. ] (]) 14:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I have removed certain aspects because, being a student of the discipline of History, I find it extremely insensitive to reach theories and conclusions without confirming the people involved. In this issue in particular, I felt that the Kashmiris from the western section of Kashmir- known as Azad Kashmir would not agree to the least with some of the mumble jumble that recent theorists have conjured together, in somewhat a discriminative way. It would help to ask the Azad Kashmir peoples to tell us a little about their culture and history; they are a people of their own identity, they know better about their history than we do, ratherthan make up what we'd like to hear or makes sense to us, you cannot let you imagination loose upon such subjects and allow it to get the better of oneself.


== Census 2011 ==
The western part of Kashmir, known as Azad Kashmir was only part of kashmir for 100 years, Jammu for just over 150, ladakh, Baltistan and Gilgit Agency also for over 150 years. When talking about 'Kashmiri people' most in my opinion refer to 'ethnic kashmiris' who ONLY occupy the Valley of Kashmir (Indian occupied). Historically Kashmir has only been the Kashmir Valley (for 2000+ years). To my understanding they are culturaly/linguistically/geneticaly different to the rest and are the only 'ethnic kashmiris'. I propose that this article focus more on them as they are the ones who have been 'Kashmiri' for over 2000 years and not the Ladakhis,Baltis,Mirpuris,Azad kashmiris. It has been referenced that the Azad kashmiri people are mainly Punjabi and Gujjar/Pahari which are also considered as castes of Punjabi. Whereas the kashmiris of the Valley are very distintcly different. The history of the Azad kashmiris is visible in their linguists/cultural heritage, and it has a very large affinity to Punjabis. So as the Human rights watch reference states, they are Punjabi peoples who have a very rich history seperate to that of the Kashmiris in the Valley.


{{ping|C1MM}} Hi, could you correct the 2011 census data according to the new administrative union territory. Thanks. - ] (]) 13:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I think the problem here is that people from the current day 'Azad kashmir' refer to them as Kashmiris as an ethnicity which they are not. They are Kashmiri only by citizenship, but as the state of Kashmir does not exist it should not be applied to them. The people from the Valley however are ethnic kashmiris, with kashmiri being their identity. So perhaps they feel threatened by the highjacking of their identity by Punjabis of Azad Kashmir who falsely claim Kashmiri heritage. The land known as Azad Kashmir was only made part of Kashmir after the Treaty of Amritsar was signed.

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June 2023

@Fowler&fowler: Shouldn't we include the phrase Indian-administered somewhere in the lead since we have Kashmir Valley written there? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:56, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes. I'll take a look. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:42, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

Why is a group photo of prostitutes of ambiguous origins from 19th century is being shown as "representative" of Kashmiris

Why is a group photo of ambiguous origin prostitutes (or Nautch girls) in 19th century Srinagar are being shown as an example of "Kashmiris". These prostitutes were always of cosmopolitan origins from various regions of South Asia and were related to prostitutes found in neighboring kingdoms like Punjab, Delhi and Lucknow etc. These were never of any kind of pure origin. Only farmers of Kashmir valley living in the villages of Kashmir valley since centuries are the true representative of the ethnicity called "Kashmiris".

January 2024

Christianity should be added as a religious 'Minority' following Sikhism in the list. https://www.census2011.co.in/data/religion/state/1-jammu-and-kashmir.html

I don't know how to make edits and would appreciate someone who does know how to edit, to please do so. Teresa Gill (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Census 2011

@C1MM: Hi, could you correct the 2011 census data according to the new administrative union territory. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:53, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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