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			== WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.2 ==
	== Thank you! ==

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	Quadell, thank you for categorization of my pictures on Commons! That's really nice!!! ] 08:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
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	This image does not list whom the copyright holder is, but a random website source. Blah blah deleted in 7 days. ] 12:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
	:Yeah, I wish I had a better source. :-( – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 15:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Hi,
	You have removed three images I added to the entry ].
	The images are free to be used by ANYBODY. It was approved by Gavriel Lipkind himself (who is a good friend of mine). Gavriel owns the images (and the label which sells the CDs). What needs to be done in order to be able to add those images to the entry? I have tried very hard to explain all that in the details of each image when uploading...{{unsigned\|Kikibow}}

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	:Greetings. When you originally uploaded the images, you indicated that Misplaced Pages ''only'' had permission to use them. I'm glad to hear that ''anyone'' can use them. The best thing for you to do would be to re-upload the images and give them a {{tl\|attribution}} tag (if that's correct). Also, be sure to specify a source. They shouldn't be deleted if you do that. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 15:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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	::The images can definitely be used by anyone. But the copyright is still in the hands of Gavriel Lipkind, and there is no permission to change any part of the image in any way - only to copy it. So for example, anyone may upload these images to their website. They even may print them into a catalog or into a book while mentioning the photographer, designer as well as noting the copyright.
	::I hope that still means that I may upload the images to Misplaced Pages.
	::Also, what does "source" mean exactly in Misplaced Pages?
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	:::I'm afraid that isn't compatible with the ]. All of Misplaced Pages is released under the GFDL, so any images we use have to be released under a compatible license. This means they must be free to modify by anyone.
	:::"Source", by the way, is where the image came from -- whether it was found on a website, or scanned from a book (and if so, which book), etc. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 13:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	==Image==
	what does uncontested rfu (CSD I7) mean?
	] 15:36, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
	:"RFU" stands for "replaceable fair use". It means that the image is non-free, but that someone could create a free image to replace it. "CSD I7" stands for "Criteria for Speedy Deletion: Image 7". This means if you go to ] and look at criterion #7 under Images, it will explain the policy by which the image was deleted. It's cryptic, I know. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 15:47, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

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	==Fuller Baptist Church Picture?==
	You removed a plain photograph of Fuller Baptist Church (don't know why, but this is getting silly now).

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	All I want is a picture of the church on the church page! Please let me know how this can be done. I posted the picture as a "fair use" picture of a buliding or something like that as I thought that's what it was!? Obviously not.
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	Yours getting every so slightly frustrated,

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	:An image is "non-free" ("fair use") if it's copyrighted and not explicitly released under a free license. Almost all the images you find on the Web are non-free. We can only use non-free images under a strict ]. The first of these is, if a free image exists or ''could be created'' that could replace this image, then we can't use the non-free image. So a non-free photo of a church is replaceable, since the subject of the photo still exists and could be photographed by a Wikipedian. These images wouldn't be allowed on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to have a photo of the church, your best bet is to photograph the building yourself and upload it. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 19:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
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	The image was deleted. This image was seen at SSW and is in many soap mags and was won at an raffle. Also the image was relased as a Media Image from ABC. I do not understand why this image is deleted and another image under the ] page that comes from the same source is still there. {{unsigned\|Dede261}}
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	:Greetings. Yes this image is seen far and wide, but it's still copyrighted. Even if you own this copy of the photo, ABC still owns the copyright. We can't use it on Misplaced Pages, I'm afraid. The Evangeline Williamson image is also against policy, and I have tagged it for deletion. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 23:53, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
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	On your user page in section 1.3 you have misspelled policy policiy.
	Just letting you know.
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	You have deleted the same 1927 image of Wrigley Field from a Library of Congress source twice. What is so significant about this particular picture? --] 2 July 2007

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	:Greetings. Even though this image comes from the Library of Congress, it is copyrighted Chicago Daily News. (All photos taken before 1923 are in the public domain, but most photos taken in 1923 or after are copyrighted. We can't use a non-free photo of a stadium on Misplaced Pages. See the first criterion at ] for further info. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 21:40, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Quadell, you deleted this image but I am not certain why? I thought I made all the necessary tags when uploading it! This was a photo that I took. I am not claiming any copyright or anything like that. Frankly I don't care if anyone else uses it or any of the legal stuff, I just want the image back where I put it. The problem is that I am on holiday and don't have that file with me. Can you please put it back for me?
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	:Thanks for taking this photo, ], and releasing it under a free license! It wasn't clear at first that you had made the image. I have restored the image in the article. If you use image-tags with your uploads, you can avoid their deletion. See ] for more details. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 00:33, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Why was this image deleted? What does (uncontested rfu (CSD I7)) mean?
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	:Greetings. "RFU" stands for "replaceable fair use", and "CSD I7" refers to the policy (Image criterion #7) at ] which calls for "replaceable fair use" images to be deleted. I'll explain.
	:On Misplaced Pages, an image is "non-free" if it's copyrighted and not explicitly released under a free license. (Almost all the images you find on the Web are non-free.) We can only use non-free images under a strict ]. The first of these is, if a free image exists or ''could be created'' that could replace this image, then we can't use the non-free image. In this case, someone could take a photo of cadets in this sort of situation and release that photo under a free license, so we can't use this non-free image. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 02:50, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	::Could that image be undeleted? Under current Australian Defence Force Cadet policy a free image can not be created. Thanks ] 04:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	:::I don't know of any law that would prevent someone from taking a photograph of cadets in training. If you could point me to such a law or policy, then the image could be seen as non-replaceable. Otherwise, it has to be deemed replaceable. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 12:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	<blockquote>Correct to both responses. HQAAC and the various Regional HQs have provided appropriate consent to display the images on appropriate media.

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	If you intend to use photos of any cadets in any publicly available media, you must have parental consent for each and every cadet in the photos as well as HQAAC consent which is only given to photos passed though this website.</blockquote>
	That was taken from the AAC website. ] 13:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	:Right. . . but that only applies to those specific photos. You could still take your own photos of cadets and release them under a free license. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 13:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	::No, That applys to all photos displayed publicly available media so to get a photo approved it must pass though HQAAC and to further add to the problem all the camps are held on defence bases which photos are not allowed to be taken on. ] 14:11, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Take a look at - image keeps getting deleted and re-uploaded over and over again. ] 04:09, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Those Kappa Mikey images where marked where they came from. You have no reason to delete them. {{unsigned\|68.78.33.245}}

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	:Please see ], and remember to ]. Also, you can sign your posts by using four tildes, like <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 12:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	Hello, I tried to fix the copywrite info on this image by reloading it, as this is my image, please tell me what to do to get the image back on the article. Thank you. --] 13:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	:Greetings. I restored the image, and tagged it {{tl\|GFDL}}, so that it won't get deleted. When you upload images, you'll want to add an image tag. See ] for more information. All the best, – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 13:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

			A demo wiki is up and running!
	== Problem uploader ==

			Dear members of WikiProject Genealogy, this will be the last newsletter for 2017, but maybe the most important one!
	Hi, Quadell. You once I could count on you for dealing with "''Problem uploaders''". Maybe, just maybe, {{User\|Tatyaa}} is one of those. Would you take a look at the issue? Thanks, --''] <sup>(])</sup>'' 13:17, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	:I'll look into it. Thanks! – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 14:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

			You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records.
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	] is disputing the removal of ] from the article ]. If you would like to comment please do so at ] so we can get a broader opinion of whether use of the image in this article meets ]. -Thanks ] ] 14:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
	:Thanks, I commented there. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 14:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

			And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2018!
	== Licensing question ==
	Quadell, what license would apply to images from (state government of ])? The second to last paragraph states ''Anyone may view, copy or distribute information found at such locations for personal or informational use without owing an obligation to the State. The State makes no warranty that the materials contained within this information are free from copyright claims or other restrictions or limitations on free use or display.'' Just curious on how they should be tagged. ] 14:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

	:Wow, that's tricky. I think that's another case of "almost free, but not quite". It looks kind of like {{tl\|norightsreserved}}, but a couple points make me doubt it. First, are images considered "information" on the site? Second, is that site "such locations", referred earlier as "certain information"? Third, does the second sentence you quoted mean the site isn't claiming to be a source, but just a conduit, resulting in an nsd tag? Fourth, does the fact that the first sentence fails to mention commercial use mean that only non-commercial use is permitted? And finally, the permission is to "view, copy or distribute" -- is modification allowed? For all these reasons, I would tag the images {{tl\|nld}} -- although it's a shame. – ] <sup>(]) (])</sup> 16:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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	This BAG delay is getting quite annoying. Do you think they might get round to Polbot3 soon? ] 16:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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Mail list is created:

The project email list is now created and ready to use!

Please feel free to subscribe at https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-genealogy

Future:

Discuss the next step, the creation of a meta Genealogy user group, list yourself as m:interested participant and vote on which name should be used for the user group.
in case you haven't read Wikimedia genealogy project take a look
support that project with your vote.

Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl.

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WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.5 -2017

Newsletter Nr 5, 2017-12-30, for WikiProject Genealogy (and Wikimedia genealogy project on Meta)

Participation:

This is the fifth newsletter sent by mass mail to members in Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Genealogy, to everyone who voted a support for establishing a potential Wikimedia genealogy project on meta, and anyone who during the years showed an interest in genealogy on talk pages and likewise.

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A demo wiki is up and running!

Dear members of WikiProject Genealogy, this will be the last newsletter for 2017, but maybe the most important one!

You can already now try out the demo for a genealogy wiki at https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/Main_Page and try out the functions. You will find parts of the 18th Pharao dynasty and other records submitted by the 7 first users, and it would be great if you would add some records.

And with those great news we want to wish you a creative New Year 2018!

Cheers from your WikiProject Genealogy coordinator Dan Koehl.

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