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== Dividing ] into two or three articles ==
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Hi, I wrote more in detail about my proposal in the ], but in short, the name ] throughout history was used fir three different stations, one in the 1930s/1940s, one in 1940s–1990s, and current one built in 2021. As such, I want to propose to creating separate articles for them.] (]) 01:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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== Renaming the ] to Democratic Party (Poland) ==
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Hi, I belive that the ] should be renamed to the "Democratic Party (Poland)". I think it would be a better translation of the name, and that current translation is wrong. Firstly, "alliance" means "sojusz", and not "stronictwo", which would be just "party". Word stronictwo, literally means 'a side of something', or 'a part of something', eg, a party. Futhermore, Polish title is in adjective form, so even "Democratic Alliance" would be more correct in this case. As such, "Alliance of Democrats" would rather be translation of "Sojusz Domokratów", than "Stronictwo Demokratyczne. What do you think? ] (]) 20:07, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I like writing Warsaw-related articles, such as about its neighbourhoods and buildings. But, I'm not the best when it comes to writing about WW2, and it's kinda a big topic when it comes to this city. So, I thought maybe there would be people with better expertise on the WW2 in Warsaw, who would like to collaborate with me. For example, I would write most of the article about some neighbourhood, and you would help me cover the revenant WW2 events in the history section etc? Idk, I just thought I could try to ask here. Feel free to write to me if you are interested :) ] (]) 21:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
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Please speak at ] --] ] 12:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
There is also a ] that can be used to notify users about this noticeboard and our related projects. Just slap <nowiki>{{subst:Portal:Poland/Welcome}}--~~~~</nowiki> on their usertalkpage - it has its own heading.

==Anna Grabka==

If a Polish speaker could look up some sources for Anna Grabka, a ballerina who is currently up for deletion, and add them to her article that will help establish her notability. The article is here <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:{{{2|}}}|&#32;{{{2}}}|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

==Polish Tatars==
There is a discussion taking place about whether Polish Tatars/ Muslims deserve to be in the Polish-Americans page. Please leave your opinions on the discussion page. --] 08:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
:Could you link the specific discussion page?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:36, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
::He probably meant ]. <b><font color="#2EC401">]</font> <font color="#206600">]</font></b> 00:54, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Believe it or not, this will probably need a disambiguation page. There is a well-known polka/novelty/satire band in Detroit, named the "Polish Muslims".] 16:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

==]==

I have noticed that articles relating to the oil industry suffer from a serious lack of sources. Apparently the industry's various parts "first started" in a dozen places and often hundreds of years apart. Using the rule that anything important ''obviously'' started in Poland I'd like some help finding reliable sources to prove Lukasiewicz's achievements. I own a really good book on the issue by Harvard University Press which I've added as a source but have trouble finding more English language material that would stand up to scrutiny.

Additionally I suggest adding the article to the "to be expanded" list because it's in need of well, some expanding. ] 14:16, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
:It would certainly be possible to bring it up to GA with a little expansion and internal citations.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 15:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You could argue that the Polish oil industry started in Austria. Galicia was part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire when the first oil wells were started.] 16:43, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

A masterpiece of Soviet propaganda.] 08:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:Looking into it. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:35, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Examples:
*"Polish population often collaborated with German occupation administration." - As if the Belarus one didn't.
*"In total, Belarus lost a quarter of its pre-war population in the Second World War." - Belarus had more population after the war than before it.
] 08:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:Yes, the Belarusians had one. I know of an Oxford paper that discusses the Belarusian-Nazi collaboration, but trying to find sources now at nearly 2 am; it's going to be tough. As for the population, all I am seeing is that either 1/4 or a 1/3 of the population was killed (some numbers were combined with the deaths caused by the Soviet government). ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
::About the population, it seems the Government is saying a 1/4th, even some other websites are saying the thing. The closest thing I could find to a statics is from . The earliest is goes is the early 1960's. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 08:55, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
Of which population - BSSR, BSSR+part of Poland? BTW - the Soviet statistics are faked, they partially assign victims of Soviets to the Nazis.] 08:59, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:From the stats that I found, the designation is not clear. However, if I have to take a guess, it would be the BSSR (without the part of Poland). I assume the exact number will not be known, since documents were probably "lost" during the war, looting and I am sure record keeping wasn't the best in the world in the Soviet Union and in Poland. I'll try and see what else I can personally find, but some of the information you are asking for, I don't think they will be found. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 09:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

99% that the alleged looses include Polish citizens, so the statement is literally false. The numbers include also people who died in Siberia or run away with Anders. Nazi repressions were partially caused by Soviet partizans. ] 10:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

] - a masterpiece. It was Soviet resistance movement in Belarus.] 10:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:]....Xx236, I wish I knew about these articles soon. I know many Belarusian articles I didn't edit seem to have massive POV issues. I wish there were some other Belarusian editors I can kick this around to, but Rydel has died, Monkbel is ] and everyone else is busy. I can see if I can try my hand at the resistance article later (now I need some sleep). ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 10:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
] contains the same text as ], with small edits. Maybe integration would be needed?
The author was ].
] 10:44, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
] - a masterpiece.] 12:23, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:I am not sure which one I can start on (but the last one, I don't know enough Russian to fix it). ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 19:47, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It's impossible to fix such Soviet propaganda. I have quoted this text as an exmple of Soviet tradition.] 06:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
:On here, I can fix it as much as I can, I just need time. ] <small><sup>]</sup></small> 09:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Magistrala Weglowa or Polish Coal Trunk-Line ==

Which is a better title for this article? ]

I have chosen the English one, but I am still hesitating. Also - photos and more info are welcome

] 19:03, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
:Is the English name used by English sources? Then let's use English. If not, go with Polish. And remember about references if you want the article ].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:39, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

I have not come across English name of this route. I will add references soon. ] 19:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

: translates ''Magistrala Kolejowa'' as ''Trunk Line''. ''Weglowa'' obviously translates to coal. So ''Magistrala Weglowa'' would naturally be '''Coal Trunk Line'''. There is no reason to add ''Polish'' in front as there is no ambiguity. ] 20:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:: OK, I have added some more info and references and now it looks good. Balcer, I also think that adding "Polish" was not necessary, but I do not know if other nations may have their own Coal Trunk-Lines. If you want to delete it from the title, please do it. ] 00:54, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Why ''Weglowa''? ''Węglowa''.] 13:37, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Board elections ==
It is an important milestone in the history of Misplaced Pages, with a democractic ]. This tiny article may be quite interesting, I've noticed some candidates from pl wikipedia (I don't know either of them well, but it's interesting to see them there). --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 23:12, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

== Khatyn and Katyn ==

The Khatyn article exist only because the place was used as a part of Katyn lies. Yes, I don't have any KGB documents proving it but why Khatyn was choosen from thousands of places in a country where millions of Red Army soldiers weren't buried at that time. Don't tell me - because the Soviet Union respected its victims. The should be one phrase informing about it in the article, even as a Poplish POV - Poles claim that Khatyn was promoted by KGB, as part of Katyn campaign. ] 07:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
:"The Khatyn article exist only because the place was used as a part of Katyn lies"? You are trolling for a block. Please check ], too. Misplaced Pages does not welcome folks who deny the event, especially on ], the National Day of Mourning in the country where WWII claimed more lives than in the rest of the world. --]<sup>]</sup> 12:05, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

A Thesis Presented to the Department of History Western Illinois University ] 11:57, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

The Soviet Union didn't care much about victims of the Nazis. It didn't care about Khatyn victims till it needed this place for propaganda. Yes, I confirm my words - where are the other 9 000 articles about destroied villages in Soviet Union? How many of them have YOU written? ] 13:00, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:I advise you to stop posting nonsense such as "The Soviet Union didn't care much about victims of the Nazis". It is the country that crushed Fascism and liberated Auschwitz, so you'd better choose your words. Basically, no other country cared for the victims of the Nazis more than they did. If you think that the world revolves around Katyn, why don't you go to ] and dismiss it as another trick of Katyn deniers on account of similarity of their names? As so often, I am struck by the lengths nationalists will go to create their own version of history. --]<sup>]</sup> 13:07, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Very funny Soviet apology. Yes, the biggest killer in history crushed the second one and liberated a small nuumber of Auschwitz prizoners, using at least Auschwitz subcamps later. ] 13:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
BTW - have you already read the Western Illinois University thesis (see above)?] 13:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Xx236, the Khatyn article should definitely exist, to clearly explain the significance of that place. If you have a problem with what it contains, its talk page is the place to discuss it. Please, don't use this page to make controversial and incorrect statements. Your statement that the USSR did not care about the victims of the Nazis is inflammatory and should never have been posted here. This is just a notice board, not a discussion board. Continue this discussion at ].] 13:35, 26
I find your comment also ''inflammatory'' and ''containing controversial and incorrect statements''. I understand that this is a wrong place and I go, but it's also a wrong place for your statements.] 13:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

:Second Balcer. Xx236, please don't post messages that are offensive to editors or countries here. We may not be fans of Soviet Union, but there are limits when a reasonable discussion deteriorates into flames, and you seem to be crossing them too often. Please mind that violations of ] are blockable offences, if repeated long and often enough.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:58, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Is it allowed to criticise Nazi Germany? ] 11:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== external links in ] ==

Please help form consensus on ]. --] <sup>]</sup> 15:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

==Unspecified source for ]==

Thanks for uploading ''']'''. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the ] status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, then you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, then their copyright should also be acknowledged.

As well as adding the source, please add a proper copyright licensing tag if the file doesn't have one already. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{Tl|GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the ]. If you believe the media meets the criteria at ], use a tag such as {{tlp|non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at ]. See ] for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have specified their source and tagged them, too. You can find a list of files you have uploaded by following . '''Unsourced and untagged images may be deleted one week after they have been tagged''', as described on ]. If the image is copyrighted under a ] (per ]) then '''the image will be deleted ] after 14:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)'''. If you have any questions please ask them at the ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Image source --> ] 14:44, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

* But don't look very hard for source :) I put excellent photo in article ]. ] 14:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

== Categories ==
Hello. When there is no difference between "city" and "town" in the definition of ''miasto'', should categories "Cities in Poland" and "Towns in Poland" be merged to form "Cities and towns in Poland" ? - ] 21:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
:Tentativly, I think that yes.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 07:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:: Nominated at ], please feel free to comment and vote. - ] 19:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
In Polish there is no difference. In English the is a difference between "city" and "town" and I think it will be better for the rest of the world to keep these 2 categories. Anyway in English there is no difference between '']'' and '']'' (Białoruś, Rosja) and town is used as well. --] 19:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

== Ghirlandajo has removed ~my text from Piotrus page ==

It's a hyper-censorship - not only remove any critics of the Soviet Union but to control contacts of contributors. ] 13:33, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
:While I consider removing other users messages very incivil, . Please think twice before posting stuff in the future, and this board is certainly not the appopriate forum to discuss that issue - it has nothing to do with Poland. Please mind that in the future.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 17:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

== ] to ] ==

In my opinion ] should be merged with ]. There is no reason to use the first one, when the same features can be used in the second. Location map of Poland can be used only with the second one. So I think we should move old template from all articles and use another one. Example? ] and . If you want to place twin towns or even town council adress you can at least use blank field in this template. I hope ] will be forgotten. --] 19:42, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
: I concur absolutely. Great work on converting all these towns. When it will be finished you should receive a barnstar and that old ugly template should be deleted. - ] 21:18, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
:: A lot of work to do left... --] 15:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::: Wouldn't it be possible to write a bot / script for substitution? --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 18:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
:::: Maybe, but I have no idea how to do it. A lot of information is missing also on Polish wikipedia. Problem is also with COA files - some of them are moved do .svg file format. Anyway - if anyone have any idea how to force any bot to do what I have to do manually, you are welcome. --] 07:37, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== Polonia in the United States ==
It would be good to create a category related to the Poles in the USA. There is only a category regarding persons "]" but there are many articles about Polish organizations there, Polish churches, Polish festivals etc. Problem is I don't know how to name that category. Any suggestions? - ] 19:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:Just follow naming conventions in ] and create ]. <b><font color="#2EC401">]</font> <font color="#206600">]</font></b> 20:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::Created and populated. - ] 22:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

== Why use subst for the welcome box? ==

The page for the new users ] suggests using ''subst'' which replaces the template with its code. Does anyone know the reason why this is preferred? I think that the regular template reference <nowiki>{{sometemplate}}</nowiki> uses less space and more importantly -- doesn't require one to edit dozens of pages in case a change is needed. I am trying to ] how the Polish flags are used on Wiki and have to edit all those user talk pages. I can use a bot -- no problem, but is there any opposition if I replaced the references with regular template links to <nowiki>{{Portal:Poland/Welcome}}</nowiki>? --] 21:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

:See ]. <b><font color="#2EC401">]</font> <font color="#206600">]</font></b> 21:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks, I remember I even read that one. I'm still not quite convinced substitution is better in this case (an optional parameter would be enough to customize the welcome message), but that's fine. --] 22:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

I like subst because: 1) it doesn't mess up the headings 2) it decreases server load (and I think this is recommended by some policies).--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 02:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
:The server load doesn't seem to be much of an issue -- see the last point in "Benefits" section of ]. What do you mean by messing up headings? --] 06:29, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

::If a template created headings, if it is not substituted, clicking 'edit' on the user's page with the intention of leaving him a message under the heading will in fact direct the editor to template page. It's confusing, thus substitution of templates with headings avoids it.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:39, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

==Galician Jews==

The ] reads very POV and kind of like an original essay. I'm not much of an expert on "Galician Jews" but I can't find much research showing that this is any more than a geographic location that had a large population of Polish Jews, definitely not one that's someone a sub-ethnicity worthy of an article like this. Any thought? ] 23:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The article contains errors. Isaac Bashevis Singer lived in Warsaw, was he a Galician Jew? I invite you to the Talk page.] 11:57, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== Eastern Bloc ==

Soviet Union influenced 6 countries creating ] (now 7 because of Slovakia). The countries had almost the same political system, economy, political police, censorship, education. Are there any articles describing the Soviet system applied in those 6 countries? I mean not six articles ''Education in PRL'', ''Education in GDR'', but a summary ''Education in Esatern Bloc''. I have written two such articles, one of them was removed as naive, crazy, original research and at the same time repeating information available in this Misplaced Pages. An example of the critics: "What's so special about Soviet university? It's just a university that happens to be in the Soviet Union." The same "what is so special about ''Pravda'', it's a newspaper that happens to be in the SU" or "what is so special about Stalin, it's a president that happens to be in the SU".] 12:39, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

:See ]. I'd vote 'merge' but I was unaware of the AfD. Next time, try to include better (inline) references.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 16:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

The text couldn't have been merged, because it was about Soviet-type universities in Eastern block, not about universities in Soviet Union only. This Misplaced Pages misinforms about the Eastern block, see eg. ''] was a political campaign against genetics and geneticists which happened in the Soviet Union''. The Soviets imposed this ideology to many countries, see about Poland.

The Soviet university article wasn't removed only because of poor references. ''Non-USSR related referenced material should be merged to the relevant articles, (like Education in Poland)'' and many other comments. ] 13:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

:Present your arguments at ] then.--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 19:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== Luxtorpeda ==

Please check the newly created ] article, more info and photos are welcome. Also, check other text about never-finished rail station in Warsaw ]

greets to all ] 18:42, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

says that Polish sources support the story that Russian criminals started the fire. What does Adam Zamoyski write about it?] 13:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

==Recent changes==
*]. It may be used in order to detect attacks. ] 14:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

::What criteria are used to select articles that are on that list?--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 15:44, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Being tagged for WikiProject Poland. However, to get rid of the linked dates in the log I probably should address the WP 1.0 bot's owner. ] 16:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC) For Estonian log the dates have been delinked by request and dates don't appear in such a list anymore: ]. It is not claer as of now whether this is also true of other assessment logs. Probably I will have to delink the earlier dates manually. ] 16:14, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

== villages, town, cities - pictures and history section! ==

I've been going through pages for Polish villages/town/cities and adding the Project banner as well as reqphoto on most of them...I really think it would be brilliant if some of you could drive around and add pictures to those pages...Also, if you could add a history section, that'd be good...I would try to do that but most of the time the official website - from which the history info can be got - is in Polish, and unfortunately I don't speak the language.] 12:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, I wrote more in detail about my proposal in the article talk page, but in short, the name Warszawa Główna railway station throughout history was used fir three different stations, one in the 1930s/1940s, one in 1940s–1990s, and current one built in 2021. As such, I want to propose to creating separate articles for them.Artemis Andromeda (talk) 01:01, 27 September 2024 (UTC)

Renaming the Alliance of Democrats (Poland) to Democratic Party (Poland)

Hi, I belive that the Alliance of Democrats (Poland) should be renamed to the "Democratic Party (Poland)". I think it would be a better translation of the name, and that current translation is wrong. Firstly, "alliance" means "sojusz", and not "stronictwo", which would be just "party". Word stronictwo, literally means 'a side of something', or 'a part of something', eg, a party. Futhermore, Polish title is in adjective form, so even "Democratic Alliance" would be more correct in this case. As such, "Alliance of Democrats" would rather be translation of "Sojusz Domokratów", than "Stronictwo Demokratyczne. What do you think? Artemis Andromeda (talk) 20:07, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

Any people intrested in writing about WW2 in Warsaw, who would like to collaborate?

Hi, I like writing Warsaw-related articles, such as about its neighbourhoods and buildings. But, I'm not the best when it comes to writing about WW2, and it's kinda a big topic when it comes to this city. So, I thought maybe there would be people with better expertise on the WW2 in Warsaw, who would like to collaborate with me. For example, I would write most of the article about some neighbourhood, and you would help me cover the revenant WW2 events in the history section etc? Idk, I just thought I could try to ask here. Feel free to write to me if you are interested :) Artemis Andromeda (talk) 21:13, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Stadion Miejski (Białystok)#Requested move 5 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Stadion Miejski (Białystok)#Requested move 5 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:31, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Robots of Stanisław Lem

Please speak at Talk:Stanisław Lem and robots#Requested move 11 January 2025 --Altenmann >talk 12:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

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