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Dera Peter Lee, What a ridiculous user page you made of yourself. I never heard somebody who admires himself so much. Don't you feel a little shame tellingv so many stories about yourself? Please ad always Butokukai because you ar eoding Genseiryu Butokukai not Genseiryu so be complete if you are so self confident it shouldn't bother you to tell the truth. In 4 years from 4th kyu till 4th dan we are all laughing about you sorry to say but we really are we are talking a lot about you always laughing of course thank you for all that fun you made it even better after I read what you are writing about yourself.
Many greetings from Holland we hope to see you soon,


As the pages are victims of vandalism, I keep changing whatever I want. If I told you to keep staying in the middle
of the road until you got run over, would you move? Of course you would. Now, when people put false propaganda on
the Misplaced Pages site, I keep correcting them. Especially as I am the one being attacked all the time. You see, I move.
So stop ordering me around. This is a waiste of time, and also misplaced, as you obviously have no idea what this is
all about. If you have some constructive input, I would be happy to listen. But your comment was upright ridiculous.

:Mr. Lee, this is '''not''' the kind of attitude that is appreciated here on Misplaced Pages. Especially not the comment (summary) you wrote on my page ''(Stay OFF my back, or take time to learn what you are talking about.)'' . I will simply not tolerate this kind of talking from anybody! You have a serious attitude problem.
:As far as I could see it: you deleted a major text part of an article that contains a template saying it is actively undergoing a major edit. Stay away from this kind of articles until the edit is finished! --] 00:16, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Do I have a serious attitude problem? I don't see it. I am not the one waisting other people's time by putting false propaganda and slander on the Misplaced Pages site every day. If you cannot accept my deletion of these person's vandalism and the slander posted here, no matter what kind of posting is put there for major upcoming edit, then YOU have an attitude problem. If you cannot see that, then I'd say that is a major problem. I may even say, that your name is knwon to me, using just another pseudo here. At least I am using ONLY my own name, and facing all problems as a responsible person not hiding behind multiple usernames. As I told you before, stay off my back. You are not helping anyone this way. This will be my last post to you, no matter what you may write. If you want my attention, you should go to my website and write to me directly. This way we can find out, if you are really who you say you are, or whether you are just using another pseudo. I may be wrong about this of course, but actually, I certainly don't think so.
:Sir, really, this is not the way to start at a 💕. I urge you to read more about ], before you start any article or change any existing article! Others people's input can not just be deleted. Add your input '''to''' the text, not in stead of the text! -- ] 01:07, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

{{welcome}}

You should be aware of a few things about the way we work here. Firstly, it is a bad breach of etiquette to delete anything from talk pages (as a practitioner of martial arts I'm sure you realise how bad a breach of etiquette can be). This applies to your own talk page, but even more so to other talk pages. If you disagree with what other people say you can reply, but to remove their comments is very bad.

If you need to ask questions, please do so at ] or at ].

Happy editing. ] 01:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

==Reverts==
Please be aware that you should not undo someone else's edit (what we call a 'revert') more than three times in 24hrs - even if you are undoing three different people's edits. Doing so can get you an automatic ban on editing for 24hrs. You did this on ], but I'll assume you didn't know about the rule.

Also, article titles should be in lower case unless the word is '''always''' spelled in uppercase only. ] 01:43, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

===Blocked===
You have been blocked for 12 hours for violating the ]. Please, in the future do not revert an article more than three times in a 24-hour period.

There is no ] on Misplaced Pages. Please attempt to work ''with'' other editors rather than fighting against them, and ] on their part. Characterizing edits you disagree with as "vandalism" is needlessly abrasive and poor ].

I understand your frustration, as the version you've been reverting ''is'' clearly POV. However, it also adds additional neutral information and corrects many spelling and style problems in the earlier version, so simply reverting it throws out the baby with the bathwater. Please try working towards a compromise with the other contibutors; ]s serve no purpose. If no compromise can be reached despite a good-faith effort on your part, please follow the Misplaced Pages ] to resolve things in a civil and amicable manner.

I'm sorry about the inconvenience. Hopefully this will merely be a minor setback and we can al avoid future frustration. ] — ] | ] 05:30, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi Peter

I'm afraid I have no knowledge of ], so I'm not qualified to pass an opinion on who is right. What I wrote was solely about the removal of comments from talk pages. Your best bet for dealing with someone who disagrees with you about what should be in an article is as follows:

#Explain on the talk page why you think what you wrote is right. Read what they say as well.
#Provide references from outside Misplaced Pages to back up what you think. If they do the same, read them.
#Ask for other people to look at the article and provide advice. Even if they know nothing about the subject they may be able to help.
#Remember that opinions shouldn't be in an article.
#If there is a real disagreement over what the facts are, not just between two editors but between different groups of people, then the best way may be to record both views and allow the reader to make up their mind.
#If the other user really isn't listening to reason, then try ] to get other people's opinions.

I hope that helps. ] 19:01, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)


== Questions ==
Hello Mr. Peter Lee. I have some '''questions''' for you. I am quite interested in Genseiryu as well, just as you are, so here are my questions:

# How long have you been training karate?
# How long have you been training Genseiryu?
# Are you training Genseiryu or Genseiryu Butokukai?
# You have the 5th dan you say? Is this Dan also recognised by the Danish Karate Federation?
# You seem rather young (33 years) to have the 5th dan already... When exactly did you receive the 1th, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th dan?
# Who was the examinator who awarded you <u>each</u> dan?
# Do you hold any dan from the Danish Karate Federation? If so, which dan is that?
# Is Lee you real last name, or just a pseudonym? If this is a pseudo, what is your '''real''' last name, under which you were born?
# What is the difference (according to you) between Genseiryu and Butokukai?
# Why do you keep calling your style and your website "Genseiryu" without the obligatorily term "butokukai"? This obligation has been layed upon your style in Japan by the JKF.
# If you don't want "your style" to be called "Genseiryu Butokukai", why do you have a reference on your site to a Butokukai-site, namely http://www.genseiryu.jp (at the bottom it says: ''Copyright (C) 2002 Butoku-kai'', also check the link and the header of the page!)
# If sensei Konno, according to you, ''"is not a part of Genseiryu"'', please explain me what his pictures are doing on (click links bottom left and middle).
# If you consider yourself to be so important as you say you are, together with Mr. Tosa, why are <u>your</u> pictures <u>not</u> on that ?

Thank you very much for answering these questions and have lots of fun in karate...

Osu!
:Gensei-sjeng, 22:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

== Answers ==

All answers to the questions can be found at our website in Denmark. Please take a look here: .

: Absolute nonsens! Humbug! I did not find even ONE answer to my questions there! Another lie Peter!!! What other name starts with a P...??? O yeah, '''Pinoccio'''! How long is your nose??? Why don't you answer the questions right here, so that everybody can see! Or are you to afraid?

== FUNNY ==

Well, if you can't read, then perhaps the answers are not there, so maybe you should concentrate. If you can read, then perhaps your questions are too ridiculous for anyone to take an interest. I wonder what you would do, if you could not spend all your time in front of the computer. Are you ever training? Well, please continue to search for your answers. You certainly need to get a lot of things straightened out. Good luck.

== BUTOKUKAI ==

Let me clear one thing up in regard to the Japanese language. The name Butokukai is the name of the dojo, in which Tosa sensei are conducting his teaching. Butokukai is a name on the same linesa are Shotokan, Genwakai, Shitokai, Genseikai, Gojukai etc. In Japanese the last character 'KAI' means gathering, thus you may translate it as dojo. In Denmark my dojo is called Kentokukai. Another dojo in Denmark is called Shojinkan. So these names are used to distinguish the actual dojo from any other dojo. In Japan, we have i.e. Shotokai, they are not doing a style called Shotokai. Their style is Shotokan. Also in Japan, Gojukai is not doing a style called Gojukai, but their style is Gojuryu etc. etc. The reason for i.e. Genwakai, Ryounkai etc. to use their name for both the organisation and style is unknown to me. But I would say that a fair guess would be, that at the time Genseiryu was identified with Tosa sensei, then these organisations chose to go their own way, thus changing their style to differ from that of Genseiryu. In order to avoid confusion, they simply identified their style as identical with the name of their organisation. Actually a smart way, especially if you consider the fact that if all these organisations went their own way, but all still calling their style of Genseiryu, then you would a great number of Genseiryu-styles. Stupid thing. There is only one Genseiryu out there. So anyone claiming that Butokukai is a style, simply has no knowledge of the Japanese language, and are trying to bring even more confusion to the readers.

== KONNO's Organization ==

Even though Mario is extremely active in his ways to force his special opinions upon us all, confusing about who has the true Genseiryu lineage, and who does not, as well as who is what and where, I must say I have given up on talking sense into Mario. His is a lost case, for lack of a better word. In the text he simply say, that Tosa sensei has been ordered by law to always use Butokukai (see above) to Genseiryu. This is ridiculous. Konno's organisation was founded in 2002, but first really came off the start lane in 2003. So if this organisation should have any rights more important then those of Tosa sensei who have used the name since 1953, then no justice exist in the world. And as I have noted before, I consider the Japanese people one of the finest. Of course they are "only" human as the rest of us, so ............. Anyway, this statement is so ridiculous that I am still laughing after reading it. You should too.

Latest revision as of 09:08, 9 December 2013

Cleaned up. Everything here was almost 5 years old.