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== Dick Wirthlin == | |||
Estimated Sesmith : | |||
Thanks for uploading the image for Dick Wirthlin, expanding on passages, and adding a source. Whew that's a lot! :-). Feel free to consider yourself the chief editor. I filled in the page mostly because I was interested in another entity - Wirthlin Group/Worthlin Worldwide and collected material that didn't really belong in that article. I probably won't do much more on the article. | |||
Together with hello , I would like to request your help regarding an article I am developing in Misplaced Pages ] ( In Spanish ) . Well, I was informed that you were the only person who can help me with this article , as you know well concerning the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day , and all that the leaders of this Church (South America) . | |||
BTW - Newbie question - when I was doing research I saw a few images of Dick Wirthlin but was afraid to use them. How did you go about checking to see if it was OK to use the image? ] 04:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC) | |||
Yesterday , I found a no-nonsense {{Tl|Relevance-inline}} in the article, and Wikipedista suggested that I make contact with you ASAP . The no-nonsense {{Tl|Relevance-inlinet}} was placed by ] , who in response to my questioning he replied that he was not a man of religion , and therefore could not help me. | |||
== Jackson, Co. Missouri and Garden of Eden citations == | |||
I would like to ask you I could contribute to this Article ], because I think you are the only person who can help. I am also aware that you write and speak in English , but very respectfully await your contribution. | |||
I asked this question earlier in the page, but apparently you didn't see my question yet, because you haven't responded. I wrote: | |||
===En español=== | |||
Wait a minute. Official LDS belief is not either that the Garden of Eden was in what is now Jackson County, Missouri. What exactly does the "ref. cited"* say? ] 15:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
*(Historical Record, Jenson Vol. 7&8, p. 438; Life of Heber C. Kimball, Whitney, p. 219 (1888 ed.) | |||
Estimado Sesmith: | |||
In other words, what does it say on page 438 and page 219 of two obscure volumes not available to 99.9 percent of Misplaced Pages readership (and certainly not immediately). | |||
Junto con saludarle, quisiera solicitar su ayuda referente a un artículo que estoy desarrollando en Misplaced Pages ] (En español). Bueno, me informaron que usted es la única persona que me puede ayudar con este artículo, pues usted conoce bien lo referente a la Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Últimos Días, y todo cuanto a los Líderes de esta Iglesia en (Sudamérica). | |||
What do the citations say? Merely mentioning the sources doesn't prove or even substantiate anything. I'm giving you the opportunity to literally cite and quote your sources, if you don't, your probably-erroneous addition to ] needs to be removed or modified, in order to reflect that in official LDS doctrine, Jackson county is not considered the site of the biblical Garden of Eden. ] | |||
El día de ayer, me encontré con un {{tl|sin relevancia}} en el artículo, y un Wikipedista me sugirió que hiciera contacto con usted lo antes posible. El {{tl|sin relevancia}} fue colocado por el ], quien en respuesta a mi interpelación me respondió que él no era hombre de Religión, y por eso no podía ayudarme. | |||
Quisiera solicitarle a usted pudiera contribuir con este Articulo ], pues creo usted es la única persona que puede ayudar. También soy consciente que usted escribe y habla en Ingles, pero con mucho respeto espero su contribución. | |||
:Sorry, I didn't see this inquiry earlier and now I see it's been there for awhile. I'll have to go dig out the sources; I have copies of the relevant info somewhere, not the actual volumes. You're right that they are obscure, but if I remember correctly they are persons who remember Joseph Smith saying that the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County. What's tipped you off that this may not be so? | |||
I send you a big, warm greetings from Chile, and I am at your service. ] (]) 18:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC) | |||
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::Of LDS upbringing, I've lived in Jackson County Missouri for more than three decades. While there is plenty of interest or belief among LDS here in the ] doctrine, local Saints do not highlight Jackson County as the probable location of Garden Eden in the past, more rather as the location of a New Jerusalem in the future. The former is a rumor, the latter is official LDS doctrine. I've never heard a local LDS mention that "Joseph Smith taught Jackson County was the site of the Garden of Eden." I really am curious what the cited excerpts state...a lot of LDS around here will be interested if they aren't vague and insubstantial. ] 00:55, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
I've nominated ], a category you created, for renaming. See the discussion ''']'''. ] <sup>]</sup> 03:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
== (Bickertonite)? == | |||
Interested parties who voiced opinions on this in the past, read all about it - the raging debate on moving the article on the definitely-not-Bickertonite Church of Jesus Christ has flared up again, at ]. Come back for more fun and games if you care to - thanks for playing... - ] <sub style="color:green;">(]/])</sub> 04:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Until I can get back to you, here is a quote of more recent vintage which alleges that this is clearly a doctrine of the church: | |||
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:"In accord with the revelations given to the Prophet Joseph Smith, we teach that the Garden of Eden was on the American continent located where the city of Zion, or the New Jerusalem will be built. When Adam and Eve were driven out of the Garden, they eventually dwelt at a place called Adam-ondi-Ahman, situated in what is now Daviess County, Missouri." (], ''Doctrines of Salvation'' 3:74) | |||
Hi Sesmith, I notice you're pretty good with maps — if you get the chance, could you change Chad to green on the ICC map? Cheers, ] 01:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry about the delay. Should be done now. ] 04:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks! ] 03:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Barnstar for map work == | |||
:The D&C indicates that the New Jerusalem will be built in Jackson County, ''ergo'', the Garden of Eden was in Jackson County. Ultimately, this is probably a better source to cite than the more obscure ones. ] 01:54, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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This image that you uploaded apparently has Virginia in dark blue (indicating it has a church in the boundaries of the state) which is incorrect and should be light blue. The issue was brought up ] and I thought I'd tell you. I could fix it, but I don't know how the licensing for the image would work out. Thanks ~ <strong>] ]</strong> 00:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks, fixed. ] 04:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Can the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles have more than 12 members? == | |||
::"The spot chosen for the Garden of Eden was Jackson Country, in the state of Missouri, where Independence now stands; it was occupied in the morn of creation by Adam and his associates, who came with him for the express purpose of peopling this earth." (], '']'', 10:235) | |||
SESmith, I finally decided to bite the bullet and go ahead and share with you the page you never saw. It follows below. It mostly contains relevant quotes from Church leaders on this issue. I hope it clarifies my position. Also note that comments made by me about the content or editorial revisions are contained in brackets. That said, here it is: | |||
::] to ]: "You have been both to Jerusalem and Zion, and seen both. I have not seen either, for I have never been in Jackson County. Now it is a pleasant thing to think of and to know where the Garden of Eden was. Did you ever think of it? I do not think many do, for in Jackson County was the Garden of Eden. Joseph has declared this, and I am as much bound to believe that as to believe that Joseph was a prophet of God." (''Journal History of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints'', March 15, 1857). | |||
::Do I still really need to dig up the cites? There seems to be ample evidence made by a variety of sources, including two former presidents of the Church. | |||
'''Members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles''' | |||
There can be more than twelve members in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. | |||
:::Third former president: | |||
Elder Bruce R. McConkie made the following statement: "The proper course for all of us is to stay in the mainstream of the Church. This is the Lord's Church, and it is led by the spirit of inspiration, and ''the practice of the Church constitutes the interpretation of the scripture.''" (Bruce R. McConkie, ''Doctrines of the Restoration'', pg. 66) | |||
:::"Again President Young said Joseph the Prophet told me that the garden of Eden was in Jackson Co Missouri, & when Adam was driven out of the garden of Eden He went about 40 miles to the Place which we Named Adam Ondi Ahman, & there built an Altar of Stone & offered Sacrifice." (] journal 30 March 1873; quoted in ''Waiting for Word’s End: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff'', ed. by Susan Staker, 1993, p. 305) | |||
Following are examples of "the practice of the Church" constituting "the interpretation of the scripture" as it relates to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. | |||
:::I'm not going to bother finding my other quotes. | |||
'''April 1970 General Conference''' | |||
:::] 02:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
President Harold B. Lee, First Counselor in the First Presidency and President of the Quorum of the Twelve, made the following statement concerning the sustaining of President Joseph Fielding Smith as the new President of the Church. | |||
"Today's happenings have brought to me some of the most sobering reflections of my whole life. During the last ten weeks that have elapsed since the momentous spiritual experience, ''in company with 13 of my brethren holding the holy apostleship'', in an upper room of the temple, where members of the new Presidency of the Church were chosen and ordained, I have lived my whole life in retrospect and the days ahead in prospect, to some extent." (Conference Report, April 1970, page 125) | |||
::::And again: "That is the position of the Latter-day Saints today, with respect to the much-discussed location of the Garden of Eden. Adam, after his expulsion from the Garden of Eden, lived in the vicinity of the great Missouri and Mississippi rivers. As his descendants multiplied, they would naturally settle along the fertile and climatically acceptable river valleys. When the flood came in the days of Noah, the Mississippi drainage must have increased to a tremendous volume, quite in harmony with the Biblical account. Noah’s ark would be floated on the mighty, rushing waters, towards the Gulf of Mexico. With favorable winds, it would cross the Atlantic to the Eastern continents. There the human race, in its second start on earth, began to multiply and fill the earth. The location of the Garden of Eden in America, and at Independence, Missouri, clears up many a problem, which the Bible account of Eden and its garden has left in the minds of students.” (], ''Evidences and Reconciliations'' (1960), pp. 396-397) | |||
During this same conference, President Spencer W. Kimball, Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve, made the following comment: " Then dawns the notable day (January 23, 1970), and ''14 serious men walk reverently into the temple of God-this, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles'', the governing body of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, several of whom have experienced this solemn change before." (Conference Report, April 1970, page 118) | |||
::::Additionally: "The early brethren of this dispensation taught that the Garden of Eden was located in what is known to us as the land of Zion, an area for which Jackson County, Missouri, is the center place." (], ''Mormon Doctrine'' (2d ed.) (1966), "Adam-ondi-Ahman") | |||
'''Sunday, December 30, 1973''' | |||
::::You're going to have to do better than simply alleging it is a "rumor". Seems pretty widespread to me. | |||
President N. Eldon Tanner in explaining the process by which a successor is chosen to be President of the Church made the following statement: | |||
::::] 02:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
"I would like to explain to you exactly what took place following the unexpected death of President Harold B. Lee on 26 December 1973. I was in Phoenix, Arizona, to spend Christmas with my daughter and her family, when a call came to me from Arthur Haycock, secretary to President Lee. He said that President Lee was seriously ill, and he thought that I should plan to return home as soon as possible. A half-hour later he called and said: 'The Lord has spoken. President Lee has been called home.' | |||
"Following President Lee's funeral, President Kimball called a meeting of all of the Apostles for Sunday, December 30, at 3 p.m. in the Salt Lake Temple Council Room. ''President Romney and I had taken our respective places of seniority in the council, so there were fourteen of us present.''" (L. G. Otten and C. M. Caldwell, ''Sacred Truths of the Doctrine and Covenants, volume 2, pages 228-229.'') | |||
:::::Finally, I have found the original quote from the two original citations in question , if you think they are still necessary. The Jenson one is a quote from Heber C. Kimball, and the same quote is reproduced in the ''Life of Heber C. Kimball'' book. The quote says: "From the Lord, Joseph learned that Adam had dwelt on the land of America, and that the Garden of Eden was located where Jackson County now is." | |||
] 20:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)] | |||
:::::Both quotes were slightly miscited, which I will be correcting. | |||
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Hey, the is in desprerate need of editors. I just joined about 5 minutes ago and was wondering if you could too. ~ <strong>] ]</strong> 03:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Kolob / If You Could Hie to Kolob merge == | |||
Care to weigh in? ] You were one of the most recent editors of ]. ] (]) 19:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::One final citation. This one is great if you are looking for a good summary: Bruce A. Van Orden, , Ensign, Jan. 1994, 54–55 | |||
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::::::Looks like a bit more than a rumor to me! | |||
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::The cite from the 1994 Ensign magazine is excellent, and readily available online...I vote you link to THAT in the article for ]. , Ensign, Jan. 1994, 54–55 ] 18:46, 5 April 2007 (UTC) ] 21:50, 5 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:followup: Awesome citation you added at ] (reproduced below). Incidentally, I asked two lifelong LDS members who have lived in Jackson County for more than three decades if they knew that Joseph Smith evidently considered Jackson County as the site of the biblical Garden of Eden, and neither had heard that. They had only heard about ] as a site Adam & Eve reputedly visited after the expulsion from the garden. Your work on this topic (adding the info at Misplaced Pages and then substantiating it) is more valuable than I think you realized. By the way, feel free to modify or delete this entire discussion if you feel it is unnecessary, or that it may discourage other contributors from discussing other topics here. ] 16:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Mormonism and history merge proposal == | |||
: # ^ Bruce A. Van Orden, “I Have a Question: What do we know about the location of the Garden of Eden?”, Ensign, Jan. 1994, 54–55; see also Andrew Jenson, Historical Record, 7:438-39 (1888); Orson F. Whitney, Life of Heber C. Kimball, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 219 (1967); Heber C. Kimball, "Advancement of the Saints", Journal of Discourses 10:235 (1863); Journal History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Brigham Young to Orson Hyde, March 15, 1857 (1830- ); Wilford Woodruff, Susan Staker (ed.), Waiting for the World to End: The Diaries of Wilford Woodruff, Salt Lake City: Signature Books, 305 (1993); John A. Widtsoe, G. Homer Durham (ed.), Evidences and Reconciliations, 396-397 (1960); Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 19-20 | |||
Please ] on the merger proposal between ] and ]. I saw that you were a recent contributor of one of the pages in question, and thought you would be interested.--] (]) 21:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
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If you add a good citation, I'd have no problems with you moving your recent edits in ], concerning the origins of LDS, out of the Trivia section into the Historic importance section. You should provide a citation in any case. --] 13:33, 7 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Great--I've provided a citation from the official magazine of the LDS Church, which is long and fairly encompassing of all the statements made I've made in the Trivia section; but the article is available online, so it's a good one to use. I'll leave it to you to move the information, as I'm not that familiar with the article. ] 04:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I just noticed that you added a category to the ] page titled ] and I was wondering how that article is related to Mormonism. I realize it's Utah, but I don't see how there is a connection between the bid scandal and anything to do with the Mormon church. Nowhere in the article does it mention the church, nor even the religion of any of those involved in the scandal. I'm tempted to delete the category, but I wanted to understand your reasoning first. --] 05:33, 13 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Prophet, seer, and revelator == | |||
:P.S.: Please note that there's also a much better version now used at ]. Cheers, ] 10:46, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Merge Proposal == | |||
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:After discussion and a second look, I am changing my proposal to merge with ]. That is a much more natural fit for the content of ]. See the new discussion ]. --] (]) 21:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
I understand what you're getting at with the "first from their cultural group" thing. I think it might make more sense as a template to include with each GA's article; or maybe a separate section in the article. --] 16:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Go for it. -] 22:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Map == | |||
== God Makers vs. Godmakers == | |||
Nice map. How did you make it? Was it with free software or purchased? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
I noticed that you moved ''The God Makers II'' to ''The Godmakers II''. I've always seen a lot of confusion about the titles to those films and their associated books, and I often see them | |||
spelled both ways. The film itself actually says ''The God Makers II'' in its intro, | |||
which I verified on Google Video here: . This is the reason that I named the stub | |||
that way when I created it. Regards, ] 19:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:OK--go with what the actual movie says. I think I found a reference to the movie on Ed Decker's website and it was spelled the other way. Not that Ed Decker is oh-so accurate in all things, we must remember...Thanks.-] 21:27, 19 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::FYI, I found pictures of the covers of the books ''God Makers'' and ''God Makers II'' online, and they also use the two-word form. I suspect that the first movie will be the same, but I'll check to be sure. I'll fix up the disambiguation page as well. There is a book called ''Godmakers'' (one word), but it's a science fiction book. After watching GMII a few too many times, I don't think I'd believe Decker if he told me that the sun was going to rise tomorrow...I sure don't know what church he was describing in that movie! :-)] 01:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::That's funny. About the research--awesome. Sounds like the movies were consistent, it's just Decker's website that was in error. I've demonstrated why it's always good to get a second source. -] 01:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Thank you for your civility on the issue of NPOV and desctiptive terms. That's one thing that's been lacking on the talk page for a while. I'm glad we could come to a better concensus. ] 01:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Do you know how to archive certain topics that have long since past discussion on ]'s page. Its getting pretty messy. I am honestly afraid of attempting a move and deleting entire sections by accident through the copy/paste method. Something tells me many would not be happy with that result haha.] 02:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Hm, no I have never done that before. There's probably instructions somewhere in the Help Section. If you end up deleting something you could always just revert it. I don't think anything is ever gone forever. -] 08:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks for uploading ], a ''great'' picture of the Boston Massachusetts Temple. I hope you don’t mind, but I altered it slightly, skewing it so that the lines of the spire appear closer to vertical. ] 15:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:That's fine; I noticed it was a bit crooked when I posted it, but I just didn't have the patience to work with it at the time. I thought it was better than nothing. -] 21:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== The Ensign == | |||
You have copies of the ensign???? You are the MAN! How would one go about obtaining a copy of that? That is awesome and pretty much made my day.] 12:57, 9 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Oh, I just realized that you quoted The Ensign from the Reorganized History Book, either way great snag.] 13:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::Yeah—I don't know where one would get an actual copy of The Ensign. There's quite a long quote from it in old the RLDS history book though, which is available online. --] 22:19, 9 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Joseph Standing == | |||
Hi; as the original author, I thought you might be able to help with some questions that have arisen at ]. Thanks. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Can you provide a source for “Standing” being middle name? | |||
As a significant contributor to the ] page, I wanted to be sure you knew that I've implemented a version of this page using the data templates that are used for the other temple lists/pages at ]. I plan to replace the current geographic list with this change later this week. --] 01:50, 21 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
I’m preparing a major revision of this page and, with the exception of , I’ve found no mention of his middle name in published sources. | |||
The history for your minor edit says; | |||
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<blockquote>middle name was "Standing" too -- Joseph Standing Standing (his mother's maiden name was also Standing.</blockquote> | |||
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This may be accurate but it is odd enough that it needs a source. gives him the middle initial of "S" on some entires and his middle name as "Standing" on others. Is this your source? | |||
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look at my profile - the sandbox entry on Exaltation. And read the references. | |||
:Honestly, I can't recall what the source was. I usually don't use familysearch.org, so I don't think I got it from there. I probably just dredged it up from the back of my mind, having read it somewhere before. I will think on it. -] 23:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
I want your input on the wording. I feel a few of the phrases are a bit awkward. | |||
== Vacation == | |||
And I also want you to read the references and understand some things about the LDS beleif on becoming Gods, that they do indeed | |||
As of 11 May 2007, SESmith is on vacation in ] (woo hoo!), and won't be able to respond to any posts made here for some time. -] 23:16, 10 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
teach that humans can progress to godhood and rule worlds, much as they beleive Heavenly | |||
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No problem. I'm no fan of that kind of aggression, either, and in months of having that article and talk page watchlisted, I've never once seen you do anything except in the very best faith. There's no call for some uninvolved person to start throwing around epithets at the first sign of being disagreed with. --] ] 23:24, 27 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I feel like this article should include burial location, not just in the ] article. I'd add it myself, but I can't exactly make sense of where he actually was intered. Is the Smith Homestead in Palmyra or Nauvoo? You seem to know what you're talking about regarding the LDS-movement, perhaps you could add it if you agree? ] 12:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:As far as I know it's as described in ]. Coffins (Joseph & Hyrum's) were buried at marked site in Nauvoo, but were filled with sandbags. Actual bodies were buried under Nauvoo House, then later were moved to underneath a different house in Nauvoo. Actual site was lost with time. In 1928, RLDS president ordered excavation to find bodies. Bodies were found in Nauvoo, and were placed in coffins and buried at marked site in Nauvoo where the sandbags were originally buried. -] 21:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Thanks for updating the LDS Church article with the 2006 version of the Church Handbook of Instructions. These are difficult to find. I have access to the 1998 version, but do you know any libraries or other sources that have the 2006 or other versions? I know that the ] has some of them. ] 18:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:You are right they are hard to come by—the LDS Church side-stepped having to submit copies to the Library of Congress and other national libraries by not registering for an ISBN for the 2006 version. I'm not aware of any libraries that have the 2006 copy, but I can't say that I've searched them out. My copy comes from a friend who works in the leadership of the LDS Church who had an "extra copy", and thought I might be interested. (He's not exactly a by-the-book type leader.) I haven't seen it appear on-line yet like the 1998 version did, and I believe the church would probably fight any attempts to have it placed there as a violation of its copyright. If you'd ever like anything looked up until you can find a copy, I'd be glad to do so for you. -] 21:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks, I probably will. I assume there isn't ''that'' much different from the 1998 version. The Library of Congress actually does have copies of both the 1998 and 2006 versions. I think the church still has to submit a copy whenever they register a copyright. But I've looked at lots of library catalogues, and other than BYU (where you have to have special permission to read it), I can only find the 2006 version in the Washington D.C. LOC. I doubt they would let it go in an interlibrary loan. The University of Utah does have the 1998 version (and many previous versions), however, but it doesn't look like they have the 2006 version yet. I'm sure it will get there eventually, although I only go to Utah once or twice a year. ] 22:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:::Hm, that's interesting. I knew the LOC had the 1998 version but I didn't know about the 2006 one. I assumed the reason for the lack of ISBN was to avoid submitting it there, but there must be other reasons. I also thought in the U.S. copyright automatically attached to any original writings that are produced. Do you have to "register" the copyright if you ever intend on enforcing it? | |||
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:::If it's any consolation to you, it's true that I have found few differences between the two editions. Most of the changes are things that changed in the church that most everyone is aware of anyway; changes in terminology, changes to how programs are structured, etc. (E.g., changing the name of Area Authority to Area Seventy; areas in North America supervised directly by Presidency of Seventy; creation of ward missionaries to replace stake missionaries; etc.) Once in awhile a change will pop out that you didn't notice before (e.g., the deletion of "forcible" from the phrase "forcible sexual abuse" in the discipline section in defining "serious transgressions"). One change I'm particularly proud of finding—and this will give you an idea of the kind of LDS Church-junkie geek that I am—is a person who lives in a district without a patriarch now receives a recommend to receive a patriarchal blessing from his or her branch president and mission president, as opposed to the branch president and district president.-] 22:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::::You don't ''have'' to register for copyrights to attach, but there are huge advantages, and it's a prerequisite before you file a copyright infringement suit. But to register and sue somebody, you have to deposit copies in the Library of Congress. (That's why the church will never sue anybody for copying the Endowment ceremony.) The part about the patriarchal blessing recommends is interesting, because I'd assume mission presidents were too busy with more important things than being the gatekeeper for patriarchal blessings. I wonder what happened to prompt that. ] 23:05, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:::::Thanks for the info. Perhaps the change was to make the process mirror the process of a person in a district getting a first temple recommend? That's all I can think of right off .... -] 23:24, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Normally, tags like that one are based on more serious study. Near as I can tell, you rip through article space on new LDS articles, and detach specific articles without comment or good practice. What's up here? ] 08:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:I've never added a spam tag. I can only assume you are referring to my edits on ] or ]. I did add orphan tags to both articles. All that means is there are no or few links to the article. Pls see comments on ]. I don't know what you mean by "you rip through article space on new LDS articles, and detach specific articles without comment or good practice". No idea what that means, and it's not how I operate. -] 08:54, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks. It looked like some sort of odd pattern of vandalism or bot insertions. I was not sure. Sorry for troubling you, Thanks. ] 08:58, 2 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Do you have a good source or history book I could look up for the Latter-day Church's rebaptism of membership during and after the migration to the Valley? I figured if anyone had it, you might! Thanks] 04:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Not a bad discussion is in Paul H. Peterson, "The Mormon Reformation of 1856-1857: The Rhetoric and the Reality" 15 ''Journal of Mormon History'' 59 (1989), though this article only deals with the practice in the dates 1856-57, when it was most common. That reference may not be terribly useful to you if you are not near a library that carries this journal (although it may be available online somewhere--I haven't checked). I'll try to come up with a book that may be easier to find or buy. Anything biographical about ] would probably contain some info on it since he was Brigham Young's point man in the "reformation". -] 04:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Some discussion of it is in the article from ]. Though this focuses on ]'s involvement. -] 04:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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::Thanks a lot, if you ever run across something feel free to let me know. I also heard the practice started in Nauvoo, is this true? Is it in the LDS history books? ] 22:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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The map you made for ] is gone. Do you know what the story is? Is there a good reason? Because I agree there should be one and the article still refers to a map even though it is gone. ] (]) 23:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC) | |||
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::The term "anti-Mormon" first appears in the historical record in 1841, as part of the title of a New York publication with the stated goal of exposing the errors of Mormonism. On August 16th of that year the Latter Day Saint '']'' reported the Mormon's confidence that although the ''Anti-Mormon Almanac'' was designed by “Satan and his emissaries” to flood the world with “lies and evil reports”, still “we are assured that in the providence of God they will ultimately tend to the glory of God--the spread of truth and the good of the church.”<ref>''Times and Seasons'', vol. 2 no. 20, August 16 1841, p. 513.</ref> The anti-Mormon newspaper certainly wasn't the first of its kind; Mormonism had been criticized strongly by dozens of publications since its inception, most notably by Eber D. Howe's book '']'' (1834). The Saints initially labeled such publications simply “anti-Christian”,<ref>cf. ''Latter Day Saints' Messenger and Advocate'', vol. 3, no. 1, October 1836, p. 319.</ref> but the publication of the Almanac and the subsequent formation of an “]” in ] heralded a shift in terminology. “Anti-Mormon” became, on the lips of the church's critics, a proud and politically charged self-designation.<ref>A similar party would arise in ] in 1883, professing to be “'anti-Mormon'...'to the heart's core.'” Cf. Jennifer Hansen, Letters of Catharine Cottam Romney, p. 76</ref> Today, the term is primarily used as a descriptor for persons and publications that oppose ], although its precise scope has been the subject of some debate. It is used by some to describe anything perceived as critical of the LDS Church,<ref>Some examples of Mormons expressing this sort of sentiment are as follows: "", ''AntiMormon.KeepRight.net'', accessed June 2006. "", ''SHIELDS-Research.org'', accessed June 2006. & "", ''FAIR Message Boards'', accessed June 2006.</ref> whereas others reserve it for critical persons or publications who enlist dishonest or inflammatory ].<ref>cf. {{cite web | author=Lindsay, Jeff| year=2005| title=What is an anti-Mormon? Anyone who disagrees with you? | format=SHTML | work=jefflidsay.com|url=http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_antis.shtml|accessdate=2006-09-24}}</ref> Siding with the latter, less-inclusive understanding of the term, Latter-day Saint scholar William O. Nelson suggests in the Encyclopedia of Mormonism that the term includes "any hostile or polemic opposition to Mormonism or to the Latter-day Saints, such as maligning the ], his successors, or the doctrines or practices of the Church. Though sometimes well intended, anti-Mormon publications have often taken the form of invective, falsehood, demeaning caricature, prejudice, and legal harassment, leading to both verbal and physical assault."<ref>{{cite book | last=Nelson | first=William O. | authorlink= | coauthors= | editor= | others= | title=Encyclopedia of Mormonism | origdate= | origyear= | origmonth= | url= | format= | accessdate= | accessyear=2006 | accessmonth=June | edition= 5 | date= | year=1992 | month= | publisher=Macmillan USA | location= | language= | id=ISBN 0-02-904040-X | pages= | chapter=Anti-Mormon Publications | chapterurl=http://www.lightplanet.com/mormons/response/general/Publications_EOM.htm}}</ref> | |||
== Ordination reason == | |||
::There are the quotes you requested. ] 03:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
I'm not sure where there might be a discussion on this so I'm coming to you because you are One Who Knows when it comes to LDS/Wikipedia stuff. | |||
As I predicted, this in no way helps establish the current LDS Church's "official position" towards use of the word "anti-Mormon", but thanks anyway. (None of the sources you cited constitute current official LDS doctrine.)-] 05:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
I don't know how in the info box for apostles it says '''Ordination reason''' followed by something like "Death of Joseph B. Wirthlin". Elder Wirthlin's dead is not the reason Elder Anderson was ordained --- his death is merely the reason there was an opening. | |||
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Something like '''Reason for opening''' (though clunky) would be more accurate. | |||
==Reformed Egyptian== | |||
Can you move the article back to having a -(Mormonism) suffix? This was a decisiion the community made to keep clear of POV and confusion. See my response to your note at the AfD. Thanks. -] 00:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
:No, I personally don't think the suffix is necessary, and the use of -("Mormonism") suffixes is to be avoided per the Latter Day Saint naming conventions. I don't want to be seen as the one legitimizing such a move. You're as able as I am to make edits (probably more, since you have admin privileges), and I won't revert the change when you make it. -] 00:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I would be curious in your feedback on my conversation with Alienburrito. See my conversation . Cheers. --] ] 05:34, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I think I essentially agree with what you said there as being a good statement on what constitutes "doctrine" in the LDS Church. Of course interpretations differ on the matter, but I'm pretty much from the school that it's not doctrine in the LDS Church unless it is (1) found in the Standard Works, or (2) has been declared in a joint statement by the First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve, as in the Family Proclamation. Anything else, even if said by the president of the church, probably shouldn't qualify. The next closest things that I think probably should qualify are statements published in correlated church materials (lesson manuals, etc.) and statements by the president of the church alone in general conference, but even these aren't doctrine in the strictest sense of the word. | |||
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:I agree with your take on the existence of Heavenly Mother as not being "doctrine". The closest there comes to a doctrinal statement on the matter is the Family Proclamation, but I think as you (?--or someone else) pointed out elsewhere on WP, it says "heavenly parents" which leaves open the possible interpretations that it is a reference to God the Father and Jesus Christ as our figurative parents in heaven. | |||
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:I also agree with your take on the King Follet Discourse. There have been many non-"revelation" statements of Joseph Smith from letters, speeches, etc. that have been canonized by the church as doctrine (e.g. D&C sections 127, 128, 129, 130, 131). If the church wanted to consider King Follet doctrine all it would have to do is add it to the D&C. It has not. Thus, I think we can assume that it is not "doctrine" to the LDS Church. However, some of the ideas expressed in King Follet are fairly explicitly taught in correlated material of the church (see Gospel Principles chaper on "Exaltation"), so some of the concepts probably would be considered close to doctrine. | |||
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:I think this is a difficult concept to explain to people who are not members of the LDS Church or are otherwise unfamiliar with how the church works. It seems most people think, "hey, a statement from an LDS mission president talking about crazy stuff! Boy, those Mormons have weird doctrine!" Unfortunately, the fact that the church has an untrained, lay ministry makes this situation worse, since many leaders have their own ideas in the church about what is doctrine and what is not ... | |||
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::I think we are saying the same thing. It is very difficult to define for others when a prophet speaks as a prophet and when is he not speaking as such. IMHO (ok not too humble), I think even some general authorities get confused with their own opinion and eternal truth. As a church, the LDS have yet to definitively define for the world this issue. They muddy the waters greatly when they state that things that are spoken by inspriation over the pulpit of general conference, in church materials, etc. are "true" or scripture. I still believe that the canon is sacrosact for LDS; if something is joined to it, then it becomes scripture. Otherwise, it may be an inspired talk, but it is not canon or doctrinal. Thanks for your comments. --] ] 21:50, 22 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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The intro should summarize the most noteworthy aspects of BYU. It's okay if this info is repeated in the body of the article.] 16:11, 25 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The info I deleted is hardly "most noteworthy". And if it is repeated it need not be verbatim or highly detailed with citations in the intro. –] 21:41, 25 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I decided to respond here because I just didn't want the discussion on the LDS Mission page to turn into a war of words between us. | |||
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You're missing my point. Everything you write in opinion is going to be viewed differently by different people. Intentions are irrelevant. You could've easily diffused the situation by just saying what I said in my last post to you (like "geez I was just kidding" or something like that); no need to apologize in any way. Had you done that I may have even apologized myself. I will say I'm sorry if you felt like I was attacking you because that wasn't my intention (see above note about intentions). My *intention* was to continue the discussion and validate the previous poster's comments about the LDS Church sending missionaries to Israel in the future, but I guess I wasn't totally clear. The "clever" response you gave made it look like ''you'' were the one trying to cover that your "joke" wasn't received as such or even that it actually wasn't a joke but were covering for being challenged. It isn't my fault (or any other readers) that I didn't know your frame of mind when you made your "joke." All I have to go on is the words you wrote and how I perceived them. Honestly it just looked like you were attacking the previous poster's comments as "dubious" and without any merit and shooting them down. | |||
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OK, I'll admit that probably wasn't the best course of action, though I will say I felt justified just like when I delete unnecessary info off an article. I don't like seeing discussions spin off into opinion battles between two people. Yes it's a talk page, but in my opinion, the talk page for the LDS Mission article should be discussing items relevant to LDS Missions, not personal disagreements between two people. SO, I learned something...in the future I'll just go straight to the user's talk page. | |||
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SEsmith - that discussion over on exatiation:ldschurch has gotten so crazy i thought it might be best if I asked here for some help with the following quotes. I'm pretty sure these are also in the , which are online at BYU.edu. I'm not asking you to read through the 1000s of pages there, but I thought you might know exactly where to find them in the JoD, or have access to the right info. I'd really like to be able to put a hyperlink in for these if i decide to use them. | |||
I was wondering if I could have your input at ]. I am confused as to the status of "Asahel Smith" and I know you are very Knowledgeable in LDS Church history, so you may be able to clear up my confusion.--] (]/]) 20:18, 4 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
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Parents will have eternal claim upon their posterity and will have the gift of eternal increase, if they obtain the exaltation. This is the crowning glory in the kingdom of God, and they will have no end. When the Lord says they will have no end, he means that all who attain to this glory will have the blessing of the continuation of the "seeds" forever. Those who fail to obtain this blessing come to the "deaths," which means that they will have no increase, forever. All who obtain this exaltation will have the privilege of completing the full measure of their existence, and they will have a posterity that will be as innumerable as the stars of heaven. | |||
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::I don't know off the top of my head, but if you go to http://journalofdiscourses.org/ you can browse ''Journal of Discourses'' in HTML. If it's Joseph F. Smith, I would suggest looking through the later volumes, maybe 20-26. He doesn't have a lot of sermons in JD, but there are some you will find. –] 00:19, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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OOO - that;s right - I totally forgot about that site - I've been going throuigh the scanned pages over at BYU - real hassle sometimes - 0 search features - nothing but the orgional scans - ] 00:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)alienburrito | |||
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I really like that map you just did for that article, but just keep in mind though that it'll be needing some additions late next year when the split-up of the ] occurs. I just noticed also you had it saying Saint Barthélemy AND Saint Martin, even though they are not seen as one like St. Pierre and Miquelon. ] 06:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah, I just kept them together because I ran out of room in the Caribbean. I suppose I could work on separating them--it could probably be done. I consider it a work in progress--it's entirely possible I have missed some territories that should be included. –] 07:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I just wanted to thank you for changing "members are Christians" back to "members consider themselves to be Christians" on the LDS Church article. It bothered me that an over-zealous BYU student tainted the article with an air of partiality. I was going to change it back myself, until I saw that you already had. --] 2007/08/02-05:54 (UTC) | |||
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Hi. I started an article which I knew was of questionable notability, but ] on whether I hate people who aren't Mormon. Probably the real problem is that only two people are involved which I suppose can make it seem personal. I wonder if you would mind weighing in? And perhaps advising me on whether I should just step away from the conversation? Thanks. *cc ] ]* ] (]) 23:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC) | |||
Hi there {{BASEPAGENAME}}. I am kinda new to all this and I can tell that I have already inadvertently stepped on some toes. I was the contributor that added the publication history on the ]. I got it from two sources and I am not sure how to include the references. One was from an article that appeared in the Journal of Mormon History. The author of the article, Edward Kimball, did all the research. I went to the ] Harold B. Lee website to double check the sources. Let me know how you want the information so that we can give credit to Ed Kimball where credit is due. By the way, I was the research assistant to ] when he wrote the biography on his father, ]. If you need any info let me know. | |||
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My name is Duane Hurst and I recently made a free (non-commercial) English web site to share information with people. I added links to your Misplaced Pages/Wikimedia freeware picture. I also gave credit to you on my web pages for your work. Thank you for sharing with the public. My website is: | |||
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This should be renamed to Latter Day Saints from Georgia (U.S. state). I put on a note about this on the discussion page for the category. ] 18:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:Of course it should. Thank you for reminding me of that. –] 21:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
I also am a "Mormon" and my web site has a Mormon section that contains my Book of Mormon map (pictures of actual locations), my translation of Egyptian hieroglyphs from the Book of Abraham, and other items. I have shared and discussed these with various LDS general authorities and given many fireside presentations about them in Japan, Thailand and USA. My web site sections about the USA and World also have LDS membership and temple information for each country. | |||
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I add pictures such as yours to one of the following major sections of my site: | |||
Please note that I has started a discussion suggesting that all of the subcategories of ] be upmerged into that category. What I have proposed is that they would all still be categorized as American Latter Day Saints, but without breaking them up into individual states. None of the articles would be deleted. The discussion can be found ]. --] <sup><small>]</small></sup> 15:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
1. World section - contains information and over 10,000 images of every world country and territory. Link at: | |||
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I seem to recall reading that the men that were supposedly shot and killed by Joseph Smith in Carthage also happen to be some of the men accused in the trial. Unfortuantely, I can't remember where I read that or if this is reputable. Do you have any knowledge of this? --] ] 15:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I don't think I have heard that, or if I have it doesn't ring any bells. Dead people can't be tried in the U.S., of course, so no dead people were formally charged, but it's possible some of the accused men at their own trials attempted to lay the blame on others who had died. If that were the case, it would probably be covered in Oaks & Hill's ''Carthage Conspiracy: The Trial of the Accused Assassins of Joseph Smith''. I can't find anything like that in it as I look through it now. –] 22:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I think I'm heading for a large disagreement with two other editors over the description of Martin Harris in the ] article. Two users seem intent on including a footnote (and even a POV comment) that casts doubt on the reliability and credibility of Martin Harris in regards to the meeting with Prof. Anthon. IMO, at worst it is character assassination to push the POV that Harris was a gullible patsy who got duped by Joseph Smith, and at best it is original synthesis since no other source applies Harris' religious fervor/eccentricity to this event. Specifically, when I asked one editor why he had included the footnote, he said that it spoke to Harris' reliability in regard to the meeting, which to me sounds like OR. As you are not a self-identified LDS, but have an interest and knowledge in the LDS movement, would you mind taking a look and throwing in your two cents (even if it's to leave the comment and footnote in). Thanks. --] 00:36, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Thanks; I thought the change to T&S AofF was appropriate and will support you in maintaining it in preference to the LDS version. I wasn't aware that the CofC uses this alternate spelling. I believe it's spelled with a "K" in the Old Testament and a "C" in the New Testament, so it likely results from some difference between the Hebrew and the Greek. I'll use the "c" spelling when referring to CofC priesthood. –] 22:58, 30 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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{{Relevance-inline}} Carlos A. Cifuentes
Estimated Sesmith :
Together with hello , I would like to request your help regarding an article I am developing in Misplaced Pages Carlos A. Cifuentes ( In Spanish ) . Well, I was informed that you were the only person who can help me with this article , as you know well concerning the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day , and all that the leaders of this Church (South America) .
Yesterday , I found a no-nonsense {{Relevance-inline}} in the article, and Wikipedista suggested that I make contact with you ASAP . The no-nonsense {{Relevance-inlinet}} was placed by User:Saloca , who in response to my questioning he replied that he was not a man of religion , and therefore could not help me.
I would like to ask you I could contribute to this Article Carlos A. Cifuentes, because I think you are the only person who can help. I am also aware that you write and speak in English , but very respectfully await your contribution.
En español
Estimado Sesmith:
Junto con saludarle, quisiera solicitar su ayuda referente a un artículo que estoy desarrollando en Misplaced Pages Carlos A. Cifuentes (En español). Bueno, me informaron que usted es la única persona que me puede ayudar con este artículo, pues usted conoce bien lo referente a la Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Últimos Días, y todo cuanto a los Líderes de esta Iglesia en (Sudamérica).
El día de ayer, me encontré con un {{sin relevancia}} en el artículo, y un Wikipedista me sugirió que hiciera contacto con usted lo antes posible. El {{sin relevancia}} fue colocado por el Usuario:Saloca, quien en respuesta a mi interpelación me respondió que él no era hombre de Religión, y por eso no podía ayudarme.
Quisiera solicitarle a usted pudiera contribuir con este Articulo Carlos A. Cifuentes, pues creo usted es la única persona que puede ayudar. También soy consciente que usted escribe y habla en Ingles, pero con mucho respeto espero su contribución.
I send you a big, warm greetings from Chile, and I am at your service. Etcengineer (talk) 18:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Category nomination
I've nominated Category:The Church of Jesus Christ, a category you created, for renaming. See the discussion HERE. Rich Uncle Skeleton 03:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
(Bickertonite)?
Interested parties who voiced opinions on this in the past, read all about it - the raging debate on moving the article on the definitely-not-Bickertonite Church of Jesus Christ has flared up again, at Talk:The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ#Requested_move.2C_take_two. Come back for more fun and games if you care to - thanks for playing... - Reaverdrop (talk/nl) 04:59, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
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Hi Sesmith, I notice you're pretty good with maps — if you get the chance, could you change Chad to green on the ICC map? Cheers, Sideshow Bob Roberts 01:42, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry about the delay. Should be done now. SESmith 04:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar for map work
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this
This image that you uploaded apparently has Virginia in dark blue (indicating it has a church in the boundaries of the state) which is incorrect and should be light blue. The issue was brought up here and I thought I'd tell you. I could fix it, but I don't know how the licensing for the image would work out. Thanks ~ Bella Swan 00:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, fixed. SESmith 04:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Can the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles have more than 12 members?
SESmith, I finally decided to bite the bullet and go ahead and share with you the page you never saw. It follows below. It mostly contains relevant quotes from Church leaders on this issue. I hope it clarifies my position. Also note that comments made by me about the content or editorial revisions are contained in brackets. That said, here it is:
Members of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles
There can be more than twelve members in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
Elder Bruce R. McConkie made the following statement: "The proper course for all of us is to stay in the mainstream of the Church. This is the Lord's Church, and it is led by the spirit of inspiration, and the practice of the Church constitutes the interpretation of the scripture." (Bruce R. McConkie, Doctrines of the Restoration, pg. 66)
Following are examples of "the practice of the Church" constituting "the interpretation of the scripture" as it relates to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles.
April 1970 General Conference
President Harold B. Lee, First Counselor in the First Presidency and President of the Quorum of the Twelve, made the following statement concerning the sustaining of President Joseph Fielding Smith as the new President of the Church.
"Today's happenings have brought to me some of the most sobering reflections of my whole life. During the last ten weeks that have elapsed since the momentous spiritual experience, in company with 13 of my brethren holding the holy apostleship, in an upper room of the temple, where members of the new Presidency of the Church were chosen and ordained, I have lived my whole life in retrospect and the days ahead in prospect, to some extent." (Conference Report, April 1970, page 125)
During this same conference, President Spencer W. Kimball, Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve, made the following comment: " Then dawns the notable day (January 23, 1970), and 14 serious men walk reverently into the temple of God-this, the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, the governing body of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, several of whom have experienced this solemn change before." (Conference Report, April 1970, page 118)
Sunday, December 30, 1973
President N. Eldon Tanner in explaining the process by which a successor is chosen to be President of the Church made the following statement:
"I would like to explain to you exactly what took place following the unexpected death of President Harold B. Lee on 26 December 1973. I was in Phoenix, Arizona, to spend Christmas with my daughter and her family, when a call came to me from Arthur Haycock, secretary to President Lee. He said that President Lee was seriously ill, and he thought that I should plan to return home as soon as possible. A half-hour later he called and said: 'The Lord has spoken. President Lee has been called home.'
"Following President Lee's funeral, President Kimball called a meeting of all of the Apostles for Sunday, December 30, at 3 p.m. in the Salt Lake Temple Council Room. President Romney and I had taken our respective places of seniority in the council, so there were fourteen of us present." (L. G. Otten and C. M. Caldwell, Sacred Truths of the Doctrine and Covenants, volume 2, pages 228-229.)
the Latter Day Saint Wikia
Hey, the the Latter Day Saint Wikia is in desprerate need of editors. I just joined about 5 minutes ago and was wondering if you could too. ~ Bella Swan 03:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Kolob / If You Could Hie to Kolob merge
Care to weigh in? Talk:Kolob#Merger proposal You were one of the most recent editors of If You Could Hie to Kolob. Descartes1979 (talk) 19:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Category:People convicted of aggression
Category:People convicted of aggression, which you created, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 05:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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Mormonism and history merge proposal
Please weigh in on the merger proposal between History of the Latter Day Saint movement and Mormonism and history. I saw that you were a recent contributor of one of the pages in question, and thought you would be interested.--Descartes1979 (talk) 21:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
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Merge Proposal
As you are a recent editor of the articles in question, please see my merge proposal of Hugh Nibley and Egyptian names in the Book of Mormon - thanks. --Descartes1979 (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
- After discussion and a second look, I am changing my proposal to merge with Linguistics and the Book of Mormon#Egyptian names. That is a much more natural fit for the content of Egyptian Names in the Book of Mormon. See the new discussion here. --Descartes1979 (talk) 21:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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Nice map. How did you make it? Was it with free software or purchased? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sukee2 (talk • contribs) 12:28, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
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Church Historian and Recorder
Hi; as the original author, I thought you might be able to help with some questions that have arisen at Talk:Church Historian and Recorder. Thanks. Good Ol’factory 21:59, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Change to List of temples of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints by geographic region
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a request
look at my profile - the sandbox entry on Exaltation. And read the references. I want your input on the wording. I feel a few of the phrases are a bit awkward.
And I also want you to read the references and understand some things about the LDS beleif on becoming Gods, that they do indeed
teach that humans can progress to godhood and rule worlds, much as they beleive Heavenly
Father was once a man who became a god, the God of this world
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Areas map
The map you made for Area (LDS Church) is gone. Do you know what the story is? Is there a good reason? Because I agree there should be one and the article still refers to a map even though it is gone. Thmazing (talk) 23:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Ordination reason
I'm not sure where there might be a discussion on this so I'm coming to you because you are One Who Knows when it comes to LDS/Wikipedia stuff.
I don't know how in the info box for apostles it says Ordination reason followed by something like "Death of Joseph B. Wirthlin". Elder Wirthlin's dead is not the reason Elder Anderson was ordained --- his death is merely the reason there was an opening.
Something like Reason for opening (though clunky) would be more accurate.
What do you think? Thmazing (talk) 21:43, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
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Per this reference could you possibly update the image here to include Iraq as a State Party to the convention. To my understanding of the reference provided, Iraq is a party with declared stockpiles of agent. My76Strat 21:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Done This request was accomplished by another editor. My76Strat 05:17, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
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Hi. I started an article which I knew was of questionable notability, but it's turned into a ≥50% discussion on whether I hate people who aren't Mormon. Probably the real problem is that only two people are involved which I suppose can make it seem personal. I wonder if you would mind weighing in? And perhaps advising me on whether I should just step away from the conversation? Thanks. *cc Good Olfactory Snocrates* Thmazing (talk) 23:31, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Letter of appointment
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Redirect left behind in error. See Talk:Letter of appointment (Mormonism)#Requested move 21 August 2023
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Nomination of Prophet, seer, and revelator for deletion
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