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==fewer than 16 participants== | |||
Should it not read "fewer than 16 viewers" as well? There must be some way that is within the scope of Wiki to include that fact that the program is so boring that the "live feed" can sometimes show "a spiderweb with a spider in it" as "the most interesting thing going on at the moment?" There must be some reviews out there some where thay liken the program to watching paint dry, dead grass grow or so on. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:03, 3 January 2012 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== What are the Rules? == | |||
Are the rules of the game posted anywhere? | |||
Here are some of the questions I have about the rules of the game: | |||
1) What happens when they are down to the final 3? Is there still a HOH and a Veto? | |||
2) Who decides who wins? It is a vote from the Jury? Do they get to watch the cams or have they been in the dark since they left? | |||
3) If in the final four two people get put on the block then one of the block members wins veto I would assume that the remaining person automatically gets put on the block ( assuming they use it to save themselves ). Who then gets to vote? Only the one taken off the block? Basically meaning that the Veto winner of the final four gets to vote off the person of their choice ( other than the HOH and themself ) It almost makes the block pointless right? | |||
Anyway can someone answer these? | |||
:You need to sign your posts and the rules that you are mentioning are exclusive to the ]. And even though this isn't the place I will answer your questions: | |||
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! style="width: 7%;" | The Final Four | |||
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! style="width: 7%;" | The Final Three | |||
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! style="width: 7%;" | Jury Members | |||
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*Head of Household is determined | |||
*] | |||
*The HoH nominates two of the remaining three HG's for eviction | |||
*The Final Power of Veto competition is held. | |||
*The Final PoV winner can chose if they want to use the veto. | |||
*The one HouseGuest NOT nominated is the sole vote for eviction. | |||
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*The Final Head of Household competition is held. | |||
*The winner of Part One advances to Part Three and skips Part Two. | |||
*The losers from Part One battle in Part Two. The winner advances to Part Three. | |||
*The winners from Parts One and Two compete for the final HoH in Part Three. | |||
*The winner of Part Three is the final HoH and guaranteed a spot in the Final Two. | |||
*There is no Power of Veto competition. | |||
*The losers of the final HoH competition are nominated by default for eviction. | |||
*The Final HoH choses one of the remaining two HouseGuests to be evicted. | |||
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*The last seven evicted HouseGuests comprise the Jury. | |||
*Jury Members are not allowed contact with the outside world, even though they have been evicted. | |||
*The Jury is sequestered in a special house generally in Mexico. | |||
*The only footage the Jury is allowed to see is competitions and ceremonies. They are not allowed to see any Diary Room footage or any footage containing strategy. | |||
*The Jury decides the winner of ''Big Brother'' once there are two HouseGuests left. | |||
*America will control Eric's jury vote in ] due to Eric being America's Player. Generally America does not have a vote in who wins. | |||
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:Hope this helps you. It is detailed and simple as I could make it. ] 02:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
4) Where do the housmates go when they ae evicted, why are they not let out into the normal world like in bigbrother uk <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Big Brother VIP merge == | |||
::Housemates go back to their regular lives unless there is a twist involved. ''']] ]''' 21:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
I'm suggesting that ] be merged with this article because the Big Brother VIP article doesn't actually have that much information in it, and it only exists because this exists. Plus I think it's a bit confusing having them separate, and it would stop all the adding of Celebrity editions to the table in this article. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 18:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:I agree, but only if the ] page is also merged with this article so that all editions are on the same page. ] 18:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I'll add it to the merge thingy on this article. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 18:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
What a response... Guess they're getting merged then. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 21:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Now that the pages have been merged, I think we should go a stage further and merge the 3 tables. So rather than having a table for main editions, a table for VIP and a table for Other editions there should be just 1 table that lists all editions. Also the facts sections should be merged into 1 as well. What do people think? ] 23:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
::I think it's ok right now. If we merge the tables it will be confusing to know what kind of BB someone won. Also, some facts don't fit when you put it together with the others. ] 14.38, 25-11-06 CET | |||
:::I was thinking about merging the tables before I proposed the article merges, but then I thought that it might be better to keep the tables where they are now. Having separate trivia sections that I think should go anyway and then having one big table I think would be a bit odd. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 13:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Added a section about Twins/Triplets == | |||
== First triplets competing == | |||
It's not great, but I put it in the variation of format section. If anybody else can make it look better, it would be much appreciated. ] 05:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
In Big Brother 3 Bulgaria are competing triplets! During their first week in the House they had a secret task - to change each other pretending to be one and the same person. It is similiar to the twins from BB Australia | |||
:Why does it keep getting changed? Notable winners are NOT a variation of the original format! Someone help me out here! ] 23:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC) | |||
What does "used name" mean in this section? I came here to learn about the show, and this terminology in the Twin's Section is very mystifying to me. I hope that someone can edit this section to make this clear to a non-fan. ] (]) 14:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Yeah it's a state of fact and it's also singled out in the trivia 2006-section. ] 11:10, 7 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
I just figured this out while reading the http://en.wikipedia.org/Big_Brother_(U.S.) page. Apparently the twins played as "one player" and swapped places during the game/show. This should be explained in this listing. ] (]) 14:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Why is the Reality TV show the main article? == | |||
== Cleaning up the article == | |||
Why isnt the Big Brother article a reference to George Orwells famous book and the ongoing common useage of the phrase in common English? This article should have a link to the TV series, preferably from a disambig page. ] 23:28, 8 November 2006 (UTC)Encise | |||
I am in the process of cleaning up the article in hope of decreasing its size and removing that annoying tag on the front. You can see my current progress at ]. I have the "Format" area done and spitted up the information to make it easier to read. You can see what material I have removed in ]. Any comments on what to do is nice I love comments. I didn't want to make the changes directly to the article since their big changes. ''']] ]''' 05:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The article ] is a disambiguation page, which links to all of the things you mentioned. ] focusses on its use as a television show. ] ] 23:57, 8 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
I am going to assist you with this topic. I have already changed some spelling errors found in the articles. I will edit any small errors that i find. Some Weird Guy named Shawn... 21:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Why three tables? == | |||
How can we clean-up the article? It seems like the variation part is too long. Maybe for the UK twists, we can do what we did with the battle house, and write the UK twisst as a list in bullet point form, and then add versions which used those twist for each bullet point. ] (]) 09:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
Why are "Big Brother around the world", "Big Brother VIP / Celebrity Big Brother around the world" and "Big Brother other editions around the world" in three separate tables? That just looks weird. ] 18:01, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:Maybe because they're three separate things? <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 18:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
::If that were true, I wouldn't have asked the question. They are all the same yet we need three tables? Doesn't make sense. I think I will merge them later. ] 13:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::I think you should read ] and added your opinion there before doing that. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 13:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::I agree with 206.47.141.21 about merging them all into one table - then we wouldn't have the arguments about were to put US BB #7 or BB India. ] | |||
:::::The thing about BB USA and India is clear for the ones who want to understand it. One is ALL STARS and the other one is VIP. That's all. I think it's OK as it is right now. ]. | |||
:::::How would this be done though? I can't think of any easy way to show which series each season is a part of without making the table look really bad. It also doesn't make much sense to have sections for Big Brother VIP and other Big Brother editions near the bottom, and the information about the seasons nearer the top. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 15:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::well obviously the only one to understand that about BB India and US#7 are you since everyone who's browsing this site tries to add them since they think it might be missng. Just look to this polish website: http://www.reality-tv.pl/modules/content/index.php?id=6. He ranked all the seasons on their countries sections and it's still obvious to understand which had been regular, celebrity or special seasons. We could also indicate this with using different background colours for several kinds of seasons. ] 12:03, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I don't guide myself for what a polish site (sigh) says, but which is the format produced. And the format in India is VIP, and ALL STARS in the USA. C'est fini. And no, 'everyone' is not adding it. Is the same that we had here some weeks ago with Celeb Pinoy winner. But, hey, even if everyone would be adding it, if it's wrong, it's wrong. ]. | |||
:::::::One of the main reasons for merging the 3 pages was to avoid the issue of having the wrong show on the wrong page. The current situation has not resolved that and I don't see the point in having merged the pages if the tables and facts are not also merged. It might as well go back to being on 3 separate pages. ] 12:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::::::If they're going to be merged, the whole article needs to be rearranged. The table would need to be moved further down, and something would have to be done about the facts sections. I've just thought of a way that the tables could be merged without making things overcomplicated. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 12:23, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::The table has some space problems in Canada, France, Philippines and Poland. I don't know how to change it. Do you? ]. | |||
::::::::::I can't see anything wrong with it, sorry. <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 13:28, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::Sorry, I just checked it with IE7 instead of Firefox and it looks good. Config problems, my guess ;-) ]. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]){{#if:15:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)| 15:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)|}}.</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> | |||
::::::::::::I think it was really a good decision to do so. it seems to be way better now ] 18:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::::::::::It's a lot better this way. Good job. ] 17:18, 19 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
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== Big Brother US Incidents== | ||
I kind of tweaked the US incidents to a easier to find format. If anyone likes it, I will proceed to do the whole incident section with that format <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Official websites == | |||
Why can't we use the ''real'' local name? Like in the Philippines, it's ], ''Big Brother'' will almost always refer to the voice. Why don't we follow ], ], where the real local name is used, like ], ], ], etc. If we'll apply the conventions here to that of ], it'll be full of "Idols". --<b><font color="orange">] ] ]</font></b> 12:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC) | |||
:the difference is that even most local shows just use the name "Big Brother" as in Australia, Croatia and many, many more. If you look to their Idol shows they are called Australian, Singapore or Malaysian Idol but you can also see that in their shows logo. | |||
:I think if a show is officially called "Pinoy Big Brother" I agree with you, however as I already wrote, most of the other BBs don't give their adaption a special local name. ] 15:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::So if that's the case, Pinoy Big Brother shouldn't be listed as "Big Brother" in the table but as "Pinoy Big Brother," along with other Big Brothers the name theirs differently. --<b><font color="orange">] ] ]</font></b> 08:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::I agree with you. ] 12:04, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::::Aren't we going to make it too complicated? The name for the 4th edition in Germany should therefore be Big Brother The Battle, for the 5th edition in Belgium should be Big Brother Zero Privacy etc. I think this column should just give an indication of the basic name of the show in that country - so just Big Brother, Loft Story, Gran Hermano, Grande Fratello etc. ] 12:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:::::We'd use what is the collective name for all seasons. For example, for UK, it's plain and simple "Big Brother," Australia is also "Big Brother,"(?) the Philippines is "Pinoy Big Brother," and so on. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 09:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
Shouldn't all of the official website links be at the bottom of the page in the eternal links section rather than in the table ] (]) 20:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
=='Despite criticism from many intellectuals'== | |||
:I don't think so, a lot of shows that have a similar table have the links in the table. ''']] ]''' 21:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I think it would make the table much more compact and simple, over the next few days i will work on it in my sandbox and we can go from there. ] (]) 21:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Where's the Big Brother Exchange section? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::::Oh yeah. Thanks for telling me i have now restored it.] (]) 15:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== My Recent revert == | |||
'..the show has been a commercial success.', according to the text of this article. | |||
I have reverted the page a couple of times today as Season 7 of BB USA was listed twice in the table - together with the other standard BB USA editions and also underneath as an All Star edition. It has always been listed on the page as an All Star edition. But in any case it should not be listed twice which is why I reverted it. Sorry if I have caused an "edit war" or offended anyone, it was not my intention. ] (]) 22:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
Hmmm. So how is this a rejoinder to 'intellectual criticism'? So, if it's a commercial success, then the end justifies the means? 'Commercial success' is all that matters? | |||
::I reverted it once because I didn't realise that it was in a different area and i thought that you were vandalising it ] (]) 14:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:That is just your personal appreciation. The text is not saying that. ]. | |||
::The article is conspicuously missing a section on criticism. It's not like there's any shortage. For example, cheap telly like BB puts actors and writers out of work, let alone the effect on the audience.] 10:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Note: Big Brother USA Season listing == | ||
In the American version, the broadcaster counts the All-Stars edition as Season 7. However, other countries count their All-Stars version as a seperate edition of Big Brother and it doesn't count towards their main edition. It was decided when back when there was a seperate article for spin-off editions that the seventh season of the American version would not be counted as a main edition, it would be counted along with the spin-off editions. . Now when the tables were merged the seventh season is still counted seperate from the main editions because it is an "All-Stars" version of the American edition. The main editions (seasons with new people each year) are listed as 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 with 7 omitted because it is listed down with the "All-Stars" edition and repeating it twice is redundant and makes the article bigger. Due to the previous discussion if anyone merges the two sections on the table for Big Brother US together or list Season 7 in both the main edition section and the All-Stars section will be counted as vandalism. If you feel this should be changed discuss it first. ''']] ]''' 01:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
since there are a few special seasons which didn't followed the original BB rules of nominations and evictions of course no eviction took place on them. however the bulgarian vip season had (due to the high number of voluntary exits) only two evictions with nominations before. I think that is a fact which should mentioned on the trivia section. ] 17:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:''(edit conflict)'' I didn't realise this is what what I removed meant. I have no problem with its re-inclusion, but only if it is reworded so that it is clearer, to something like "Least number of evictions in a season". <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 17:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
in fact there was only one evicted housemate, as the second one - lilana left the house because she had the least number of positive votes. | |||
here is what actually happened with the nominations in vip brother 1: the first nominations were on day 5 (friday). on monday (day 8) one of the two nominees left voluntarily. then the second nominations were on day 9. nominated housemates were raina and dim dukov (who is now hosting ]). the eviction should be on friday but on day 10 another housemate - galya litova decided to leave, so the eviction was sheduled for monday (day 15) and raina was evicted. on the next day - 16, were the new nominations. two of the three nominees decided to leave the house and they did it on day 19. the producers decided to start the positive voting for winner. on day 27, lilana had the least number of positive votes and she was evicted. | |||
==Dead Set== | |||
== Big Brother Belgium VIPs 1 == | |||
E4, which is a network belonging to UK TV network channel 4, have announced a zombie horror show based directly on the franchise. Called "Dead Set" it is about a zombie outbreak that happens outside of the house and the contestants are in the only safe place. Not sure if you want to add this to the wiki entry some how ] (]) 21:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
does anyone of you have a list of nominations and evictions from the first flamish BB VIP season since it's likely that we miss a few 'first' facts on the trivia section. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (] • ]) 17:08, 8 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
:Dead Set is a ] (look at that page, tell me how it isn't!) from the British version of Big Brother. It features the same presenters in cameo roles, is filmed in the actual BB house and name checks BB frequently. It is made by the same production company for broadcast on the same channel as BB. It IS a spin off and should remain on this entry as it is very relevant to the show. ] (]) 15:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Big Brother Online Version == | |||
I agree that it may not be relevant to BB as a whole, but at least keep it on the BB:UK page, it is an official BB:UK show :) ] (]) 15:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
There is now an online version of Big Brother taking place, within the ] virtual reality world. Would someoen interested in it write up a page about it? I would myself, but I'm far too close to those events to reasonably write it up objectively. ] 02:54, 16 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
== Most voluntary exits == | |||
I added this fact as 18 in BB5 Germany, but it's been changed to 15. Which 3 on my list didn't exit the house voluntarily? Achim, Franco, Frank, Ilkay, Jupp, Karim, Kay, Lydija, Nicole B, Paco, Petra, Ramona, Sandra R, Serhat, Silvana, Solveigh, Susanne & Volkmar ] 13:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
:sorry I made a mistake so I am going to change that to 17. Sandra R was taken out by BB after the press wrote some bad things about her (because she gave her babies away) and saw that as the only way to protect her. Jupp was forced to leave since someone in his family needed his help (which wasn't explained further in the TV Show) and BB thought it would be better if he's not staying in the house however due to these circumstanges he was allowed to return a few weeks later. That would make 16 but your list does not include Lisa (Elisabeth) who left the house voluntary after the majority of household gone mad with her. However she was just talking with enemy Franco (who left the house at the same time but had all the HMs on his side) and the BB-Psychologist, when they were outside in a special room and they decided to end this fight and both were allowed to return to the house a few hours after they left, of course it's actually against the rules but it remains as the only time it happened on german bb so far. ] 16:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC) | |||
::This is not the place for it please keep the section in ] untill we decide what we are going to do with it. ] (]) 15:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Save and evict == | |||
== prizes == | |||
Does anybody know which season was the first to let viewers vote to save and vote to evict housemates? ] 23:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Australia did it for the first time. ] 17:48, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Spain did it before Australia in October 2005 ] 19:27, 14 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Australia did it the first time in April 2005 ] 22:55, 17 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::Are you sure about that? I'm fairly sure that the host Gretal said in April 2006 that it was the first time they had used the save/evict voting. And looking at the percentages for the 2005 Australia edition they look to be evict only percentages. If that is not correct and they also did save/evict in 2005 then this page needs amending http://en.wikipedia.org/Big_Brother_Australia as it says "Big Brother 2006 added the save vote, allowing viewers to vote to save a housemate as well as evict; in the final tally housemates' save votes and evict votes are merged." Also this page http://en.wikipedia.org/Big_Brother_Australia_2006 would be wrong as well as it says "Big Brother 2006 featured several innovations to the formula. In previous series of Big Brother Australia, viewers could only vote to evict the nominated housemates they wanted to leave the house. Big Brother 2006 added the save vote." ] 00:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::Well then I am mistaken problaby, I thought Glenn received some -% in his eviction result. Anway, never trust when Austrlian BB says they are doing a world's first since they have been wrong about this a few times. ] 20:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::::That's why I asked. :P ] 20:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
in the erticle writen that in some editions the prizes is house and tour etc. | |||
==Separate Article== | |||
do you know in which editions? <span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
I think that the whole racism controversy deserves its own separate article due to its international political ramifications. Although the section on this article is good, I don't think it is anywhere near describing ''everything'' that happened as a news event in itself. I would strongly support the creation of a separate article (for example, ] where the whole story can be described in full. As far as I am aware there is precedence for this in Misplaced Pages and it shouldn't be too hard for editors who are willing to put the work in. | |||
:nnobody knows? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Controversy? == | |||
I've been inserting, organising and maintaining the information at ] which is understandably far too large and will be significantly pruned once the controversy is over, but it's a shame to see all of that go to waste. There are plenty of references there for use and other developments haven't been discussed, for example, Cameron's and Livingstone's comments as well as comments from the Indian politicians. | |||
I think Big Brother made a big deal of controversy which should be mentioned. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
So there it is: A separate article? ] <sup>]</sup> 06:33, 20 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:: The Controversy section was moved to individual Big Brother Series. ] (]) 23:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Paps and GrahamUK are working on it. ] 20:18, 21 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
==Does Loft Story belong here?== | |||
==Article sub-headers== | |||
I don't believe the derivative series "Loft Story", listed as being produced in Canada and France, should be included here. Loft Story, to me knowledge, is not connected to Big Brother in any way and is simply an adaptation of the format. In fact the Misplaced Pages article on Canada's version says nothing about it being part of the Big Brother franchise. I say it should be removed from the charts and general discussion and replaced with a See Also link. Are there other versions listed here that aren't really Big Brother? ] (]) 13:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Subtitle Chart == | |||
I notice that this article has the words ''Big Brother'' in italics within each header of the article. I'd like to propose that these be changed to normal text within these headers, for the following reasons: | |||
I don't know how to change it, but Enemies was not a subtitle for Big Brother 8 (US), just a theme. Can someone do that please?] (]) 19:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
* It breaks the subheader links automatically generated on the "recent changes" and "my watchlist" pages. | |||
* It is inconsistent with other articles which mention the main article's name as a part of a sub-header. | |||
* The extra emphasis provided by italics is un-necessary within the context of a header, as the header intrinsically provides emphasis. | |||
== Project: Clean-Up == | |||
Unless someone can provide a convincing reason not to, I will shortly remove the italics from all the sub-headers. ] 03:42, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:]. ] 18:29, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::And there's nothing at ] to say it shouldn't be done. — ] <small>(])</small> 23:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::OK, I'll leave it then. I do think though that teh MoS needs to set a policy to have no italics (similar to no bold type) there, as it does break those automatically generated links. ] 09:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Put it on or something? ] 09:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC) | |||
To the administrators: how can we clean-up the article? What particular part/s of the articles are in need of a clean-up? ] (]) 06:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Big Brother Dorf == | |||
== Pan-Regional Big Brothers == | |||
I'm from Germany and watched almost every episode of german Big Brother, so I know many things about it. | |||
"Big Brother - Das Dorf" started dircetly after the 5th Season, so please let me edit this! ] | |||
:Feel free to write an article about it! If you speak German, you could use ] to help you get information. By the way the English Misplaced Pages has restricted the creation of new articles to registered users so you'll either need to create an account or submit the article at ]. ] ] 18:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | |||
So far, there are, listed, 6 pan-regional Big brothers. What's the truth about the Greek Big brother as a "Greece and Cyprus" Big Brother?] (]) 01:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== First wedding in the House == | |||
== Section on Current Status == | |||
Yesterday there was a wedding in the ] House. I am almost sure it is the first one ever. However, my record in the Big Brother facts was deleted. So, can you give me an example of another wedding in the House?! <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 07:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
Shouldn't there be a section in this article on which franchise are still running and which have already been cancelled? I already know of UK, Australia, and Middle East being cancelled. Philippines, Africa, Finland, and Yugoslavia are still running, I think. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
: Marco and Bettina got married in Big Brother 6 Germany on 26th December 2005. Silvia was married in Big Brother 1 Slovakia on 22nd October 2005. Those are 2 I can think of off the top of my head, there have probably been others as well. ] 09:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Mole or sabatour == | |||
:: OK, my mistake. But why don't you add this as a fact if you know where and when was the first BB wedding? | |||
There should be mention of this somewhere in the variations section, the uk has had this the usa too and some other countries.--Cooly123 21:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
::: Because I don't know when the first wedding was, I just know that there have been others before Bulgaria. ] 15:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== International housemate winning == | |||
::: the first wedding was long ago in 2001 when Anne Mona and Ramsy married in the "100 days later" season from Norway ] 13:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Emilio and Eva had a wedding in GH2 Spain, in April 2001. Also Gastón and Eleonora had a wedding in GH1 Argentina, in 2001. ] 16:14, 2 April 2007 (CET) | |||
:::::GH2 Spain didn't started until late May so and Eva and Emilio didn't knew each other before the seasons started so don't post any false facts here I also read for the first time that Eleonora and Gaston married in the house - you really think stright catholics in southamerica would do that after they know each other for a few weeks?! ] 22:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::::OMG, ridiculous. Review your data, dude. ], 9:30 3 April 2007 (CET) | |||
::::::Perhaps it is you that should gets your facts correct before you accuse people of posting incorrect facts. GH2 Spain started on 18th March 2001. Take a look at this page if you don't believe me http://elgato.lagateradigital.com/ghii.php?go=historia or the wiki page here http://es.wikipedia.org/Gran_Hermano_%28Espa%C3%B1a%29#Gran_Hermano_2_.282001.29 ] 23:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
With the 3rd teen phillipeans edition won by a canadian, there should be a note of winners of big brother who were not actually from the home country from the said edition.--Cooly123 00:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== 3rd child in BB Bulgaria == | |||
I deleted the Chinese flag icon beside the name of Kim Chiu, the BB teen winner from the Philippines. She has a Cjinese blood but she is never a Chinese citizen or even came from China. She was born and raise in the Philippines. :) | |||
Currently, in the house lives the third child in the history of ]. First, Miss Bulgaria' 99 entered and lived in the ] House with her 3-years old daughter Danaya (the first child to live in the House ever - marked as a fact). Then, in ] Svetlana gave birth to her daughter during the show and now Zdravko and Hristina (who married yesterday) live with their daughter Yanica in the ] House. <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 12:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
: the it has to be the 4th child since Tanja from BB Netherlands Season 5 also gave birth to a child an lived with it in the house before she left voluntary ] 13:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== |
== Evictions and length == | ||
Can someone find the earliest eviction for the show otherall and the latest 1st evicton too? Also, what is the shorest season in days and the longest in days (disregard any celebrity editions and big brother germany 1 year show). --Cooly123 19:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Since the Facts section of this article only has one reference in it, could we please consider removing it? It seems unlikely that many of the things in the section will ever be sourced, and it has been there long enough for references to be added. ] 12:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
:I second that. All these debates over "world firsts" are kinda senseless since it became more of a contest of who is adding the most thing or correct and delete them in the way they imagine it (I look at you GrahamUK and Pabs). ] 12:19, 6 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I should look at you as you are the one that have added a bunch of incorrect/irrelevant data since the beginning -just now you have added that Javier Estrada was part of the first swap (Mexico - Spain) when he didn't, it was Andrés Barreiro... etc, etc, etc-. If you don't like people to correct you when you add something wrong, my advice is not to take part in a community like Misplaced Pages. And you said "kinda senseless since it became more of a contest of who is adding the most thing"... and just added such an extremely important fact as 'First deaf contestant'... well, bravo for you, dude. By the way, my vote is also to delete it, as it has become a complete mess up where nobody cares about what is being added or not, where nobody contrasts the information. The same for the whole article. It's getting more and more irrelevant and disfiguring with the passing of time. Every month a new table with new irrelevant info. Great. ] 00:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::LOL I mean there is a fact like "first HIV infected contestant" in here and nobody cared - the funny thing is that sometimes I just add wrong facts so that you can do you homework and correct them. for example Doreen isn't really deaf and hopefully never won't be, same with the swaps - some of the involved contestants are right, some are wrong and just I know which are these. seems like you have to do another research to keep it all correct and accurate just as it should be in Pab's little Misplaced Pages universe, LOL ] 22:57, 14 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::::As you can see in 'history', it is a long time without correcting any of the giant bunch of mistakes this article has, so you can keep on adding whatever you want. I do not feed ] :) ] 00:51, 15 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
::If you don't like it ignore it. And the facts are hardly controversial. ] 16:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::It's not about not liking it, it's about the fact that the section has been in need of references for a very long time. Per Misplaced Pages's ] policy, anything that cannot be verified via a ] should not be in an article. ] 13:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Upcoming series == | |||
:Now on its own page ] where those who have spent hours and hours on it can still enjoy it. ] 23:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
Could we have an upcoming series subsection on the main page?--Cooly123 20:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
The people who spent hours on the facts section out-vote by their labor the pathetic editors exposing their brainlessness above. ] 17:17, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
:The table already lists the upcoming series, in fact they are in bold so they are easier to find. I don't see the benefit of an upcoming series section. ]] 23:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC) | |||
I think the voting is in favor of keeping so far.] 17:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I agree! Having a dedicated section would most likely lead to the posting of countless rumors and speculation. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. At this level we are only interested in verifiable information. The Big Brother pre-season is filled with countless unverified rumor and some outright lies which do not belong on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 02:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
:No, sorry - it doesn't work that way. No only was it discussed above, it was also split out to it's own article and discussed during deletion: ]. I think that speaks for itself. This is an encyclopaedia, not an indiscriminate collection of unreferenced trivia. Thanks/] 17:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Big Brother Finland #5 == | ||
In the list of series and their winners, BB Finland #5 (2009) winner Aso Alanso's nationality is marked as Iranian. However there is source for that. And more importantly the list is the only place where this info even is. ] (]) 14:14, 9 March 2011 (UTC) | |||
::The two portugese VIP seasons have lasted for 60 days each. I am sure some of the mexican VIP seasons were way longer too. ] 18:56, 24 April 2007 (UTC) | |||
== |
== Big Brother China? == | ||
Does anyone have information about the possibility of Big Brother going to China? Also we should list the year in which Big Brother started (1999) and the following years and which Big Brother's had started airing, finishing with currently new 2011 Big Brother begining.--Cooly123 22:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC) | |||
Australia BB7. | |||
:The likelihood of Big Brother in China is highly unlikely. Please remember that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. The only way such information would be included here would be if there was some sort of confirmation from Endemol or the local producers in China. Please refrain from asking such questions here in the future as they have no relation to the article or the way the article is edited. ] (]) 01:58, 8 November 2011 (UTC) | |||
Big Brother is a awful, pointless tv programme, | |||
It's gonna be confusing but here it is: | |||
it taes up valuable tv time | |||
alll they do is spy on cluelesss contestants in a big house while, the contestants triumphantly try and win the big cash prize. | |||
Hayley and Andrew are going out. Her ex-boyfriend then walks in as an intruder, Hayley knows Billy, as Billy knows Hayley. Andrew does not know that Hayley knows Billy. And Hayley does not know that Billy knows that Andrew and Hayley are in the secret relationship. | |||
lily evans'''''' | |||
Confusing yes, And Billy is also Mr. X, he isn't a housemate, and is only in there to try and make the secret come out. | |||
--] (]) 06:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)--] (]) 06:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Requested move == | |||
So should, 3-way Relationship and Mr. X be a fact for 2007? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 06:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
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The result of the move request was: '''Improper/undiscussed move reverted'''. ''']'''''<small>]]</small>'' 08:54, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
:nope. it's unrelevant and it's also not a world's first. (Spain has done the same in its sixth season) ] 22:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== First Celebrity Removed. == | |||
] → {{no redirect|1=Big Brother (TV series)}} – Page moved improperly and without any reason to justify the new title. ] (]) 05:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC) | |||
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== which adopted nomination discusion in 2011? == | |||
Warwick Capper - Celebrity Big Brother Australia 2002. | |||
Article says "the <nowiki>]</nowiki> version adapted the discussion of nominations in 2011 ." Which country was it? United States or United Kingdom? --] (]) 07:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC) | |||
For exposing himself to another female. | |||
:It had been changed to United Kingdom, but this felt a little strange so I linked it to the relevant BB article. Are readers really going to want to see links to articles on the host countries? Perhaps this should be revisited. ] (]) 23:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Tables == | |||
I notice we have other information on Celebs as BBVIP/CELEB facts, so should this be added? <small>—The preceding ] comment was added by ] (]) 06:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> | |||
I've removed bold and italic from the table in words such as "upcoming season" because it goes against Misplaced Pages's manual of style. I started making further cleanups, but haven't finished. This includes using italics for titles (everything under "Local title" should be italic) and making sure the word "season" is in lower case (where it appears after a presenter's name). Does anyone have objections? Especially to the removal of bold (the other stuff should be fine). –]]– 15:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
== why is the fact section deleted? == | |||
:Clearly people object because all my hard work, that conforms to the manual of style, has been changed back to include bold and italic and upper case text. This is wrong. But I'm not going to change it back, I'm just going to let this article look incredibly unprofessional. Since nobody else cares, why should I? –]]– 13:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Advice to copy editors == | |||
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This article was tagged for (among other things) copyediting, and one of a copy editor's jobs is to bring an article into compliance with the ]. ] states, {{tq|"Do not emphasize nationality without good reason"}} and {{tq|"Do not use flags to indicate locations of birth, residence or death"}}. It took me several days to painstakingly copyedit this article; if it's tagged again for copyediting, I suggest removing the {{tl|copy edit}} tag from the article, tagging the talk page with {{tl|GOCEreviewed}} and moving on. Don't waste your time, as I did. ]] 15:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Reincluding the BB Records? == | |||
:Thanks for all your hard work. I have previously spent a lot of time removing all the bold and italic text from the tables, only to have them be put back in within days, so this article is something that needs very closely monitoring for these kinds of edits. I'm not going to do it more than once. If people want to mess up the page, I'll just let them. (As you can see from the section above, which I had forgotten about!) –]]– 18:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Sexual relationships == | |||
I agree that the facts section ran out of control with all these hilarious "worlds first" facts. but don't you think it would be interesting for visitors to see a little statistic of records on this site? just some basic records of facts which include all Idol shows like<br> | |||
This is a major aspect of the series, so I added a line in "Overview" about this. Although I didn't add a source, it's easily verifiable that sexual relationships do occur and how much is shown varies - US Big Brother shows nothing, whereas some of the European versions broadcast pretty much everything, or their Net feeds do. I think this can be expanded upon, however, as this aspect of the show has received non-trivial news coverage regarding controversy, and when the UK version of Big Brother broadcast intercourse between contestants for the first time, it made headlines. ] (]) 15:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC) | |||
-most times nominated for eviction<br> | |||
-most times successive nominated for eviction<br> | |||
-longest series<br> | |||
-highest eviction percentage<br> | |||
-oldest & youngest contestant<br> | |||
-season with most HMs, voluntary exits and forced evictions<br> | |||
==Frankie Grande== | |||
It would be just these and maybe some others but ONLY these records should be considered which could theoretically be achieved by all regular BB shows. <br> | |||
] redirects to his sister ]'s article. Can anyone start a separate article for Frankie Grande? After college, where he was a Biology/performance major, he started his acting career in the National Tour of ''Dora the Explorer Live!''. He then appeared in '']'' on Broadway, held the title of Mr. Broadway 2007, produced ]'s ''Hamlet'' on Broadway (and vehicles for ] and ]), founded the non-profit arts empowerment organization Broadway in South Africa, toured with Justin Bieber and his sister (as a dancer), and had his own one-man show in New York. He also has an expanding social media presence. . He is currently appearing on '']''. and . Happy editing, everyone. -- ] (]) 17:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC) | |||
what do you think? ] 21:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Versions table colours == | |||
:What about First winner, first evicted, first removed etc. | |||
Colours shouldn't be used to show if a programme is current, past or whatever. There's a column that makes it clear what's what, it says "upcoming season" or "current season", if there's one on or coming soon. The use of colour makes the table look messy and actually harder to understand, and goes against ]. Can we remove the colours please? –]]– 11:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
:And what about twists for eg. | |||
:I preferred it when there was a section below saying the current and upcoming series. ] (]) 23:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
::Maybe we should bring that back. –]]– 08:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Contestant names and country flags == | |||
:First twins - US | |||
:First blood related - US | |||
:First House with all females - UK | |||
Where a flag is used next to a contestant name, is that supposed to indicate the contestant's most recent residence, their citizenship, or something else? I want to make some clarifications and corrections on one of the pages, but I want to make sure the policy is consistent. These distinctions do have consequences for some of these potential edits. ] (]) 17:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC) | |||
:Just general ones that made headlines etc. None of the extra stuff like - first ever sex in the house, etc. | |||
== New Seasons == | |||
::I don't think that is particulary a good idea since we would return to where we have been before immediatly. all these "firsts" are twist which do happen in maybe five out of fourty shows - I just think the records are really mentionable. ] 14:07, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Some of the new upcoming seasons are ] to be included in the article as there is not much to be said about them, other than the confirmation of the future seasons.--] (]) 01:35, 11 August 2016 (UTC) | |||
==Revised the Big Brother Series table == | |||
== copyedit Nov 2016 == | |||
I suggest that we should revised the Big Brother Series table by separating the winners in another table. Like this: | |||
This is a summary of my copyedit: | |||
'''Big Brother Series''' | |||
* general grammar, punctuation, spelling, markup, cleanup, and minor redundancies of phrasing | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
* ]s were only used 1/3 of the time, so for consistency I removed them (except for inline lists in Housemate Exchanges and Evicted Housemate Visits where they were needed for clarity). | |||
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* for consistency, used "US" in reference to the American version of the show (see: ]); I feel this also works better in the context of a global franchise to disambiguate from other meanings of "American". | |||
! Region/State | |||
* in agreement with ], rephrased some overly-formal language (eg: with whom, to which, etc.) | |||
! Local Name | |||
* when a single series ran over a year break, I used the briefer two-digit number for the closing year of the date range, as tends to be done with television and athletic seasons. (]) eg, BB Germany season 6 (2005–06). (This was already done in the charts at the end.) When describing multiple seasons, I'd use the full four-digit year for both ends of the range. | |||
! Network | |||
* ]: sometimes the same term was linked three times in a paragraph; once per section should be sufficient for an article of this size. | |||
! Start Date | |||
* the section hierarchy needed a little work. (1) I promoted the empty section Multi-Franchise Competitions up one level so that Eurovision Song Contest and FIFA World Cup fit within it. (2) I made a section for Twists (single series) and demoted all of the single-series twist sections (some of which were a single paragraph) to fit within it. (That should also tighten-up the table of contents and eliminate some whitespace.) | |||
! End Date | |||
* There were two twists in Multiple Franchise#Other which did not involve multiple franchises; I moved these to the beginning of the main Other category for now. (I'll try to look at further organizing this section, or moving some items up into the other Twist sections.) | |||
! Duration | |||
I'll be making another pass, looking at what can be summarized a little more concisely – after reading several of the series articles to be sure I understand the meaning. (This article is meant to be a summary of 387 series, and should only mention what's notable at that level.)<br /> | |||
! Main Presenter | |||
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them here. Thanks! – ] (]) 17:25, 16 November 2016 (UTC)<br /> | |||
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I finished reorganizing the "Other" sections into appropriate "Twist" sections or "Special Editions". I still need to go over it and do some cleanup. Please leave that to me. Also, if I reverted anyone else's copyedit, please bring it here to discuss. ] (]) 00:01, 18 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
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Okay, finished cleanup and additional copyedit following the organizational work. A couple notes to editors: | |||
* This article is a summary of 387 shows so please be careful with some of the sweeping statements (eg: the game has 10 contestants and is played over 3 months). Although a lot of information can be drawn from primary sources, statements like these should be cited and dated. | |||
* Watch some of the trivial details. Mentioning a twist and the editions in which it first occurred is enough, readers can follow the links for more information. | |||
* <em>Please</em> discuss on the talk page when changing established material, especially changes to matters already discussed. | |||
Thank-you for your attention. Again, if you have any questions please feel free to ask. - ] (]) 15:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC) | |||
== Should the most recent winner be included? == | |||
'''Big Brother Winners''' | |||
{| class="wikitable" | |||
|- | |||
! Region/State | |||
! Local Name | |||
! Winner | |||
! Birthdate | |||
! Sex | |||
! Occupation | |||
! Prize | |||
Is there really a need to include the most recent winner in the versions section. I don't really see a reason to because this page is about the franchise as a whole not independent versions. ] ] 12:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
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:That information should only be included in the individual version articles; this article serves as the aggregate article for the whole franchise. ] (]) 13:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC) | |||
By this, we can easily rewrite the Big Brother Facts section | |||
==Discussion at ]== | |||
I also suggests to add a new page for the list of all Big Brother housemates around the world. | |||
] You are invited to join the discussion at ]. ] ] 05:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)<!-- ] --> | |||
www.worldofbigbrother.com is a good source. | |||
== Need help on formulation == | |||
==Housemate Swap== | |||
Should the BBUK "Fake Week" twist with Housemate 'Pauline' from Australia added? | |||
:Probably not, since there wasn't actually a swap. ] ] 17:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Hi! | |||
I edited the following paragraph to the article (March 16 2019 8:36) | |||
"Commercial Realisation | |||
Today, many websites offer for a fee an insight into the private rooms of unsuspecting people. One example is reallifecam.com . The websites often pretend to the viewer a victim's knowledge about the espionage, thereby playing both ends against the middle by using the viewers' shame about their act of voyeurism together with the viewer's fear of prosecution to silence the audience." | |||
== borderline pornography == | |||
As all of my edits it has been deleted. Can you help me please to write in an acceptable way? Is the naming of the website not ok, as it is not closed, and probably will never? Or is the whole paragraph not acceptable, as it shows the realisation of the dystopia and a lacking intervention of the security agencies? Or what else is the issue? | |||
' while others broadcast what would be considered to be to be borderline pornography by American standards.' | |||
As all of my edits, these questions are not meant to be accusing but asked very directly in hope to get a direct answer how to reformulate the paragraph to match wikipedias terms of acceptance. On the official page only formal rules are explaint, no rules about content. | |||
Why the sudden mention of American standards here? It seems random - surely it would be better to say something like 'would be considered borderline pornography in more conservative broadcasting regimes' or something? | |||
:Removed the statement entirely. This statement can be applied to television in general, particularly when expressed from a worldwide perspective. What this statement essentially says is 'different countries have different standards for what can be broadcast on television'. This amounts to common knowledge, is likely to be covered in a separate article elsewhere, and has no direct relevance to the topic of the article. --] 13:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
Maybe User 2602:306:3793:A3B0:FC85:F6A0:83BE:945A himself can tell what exactly made him delete the paragraph. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== The United Kingdom section == | |||
== Big brother Uganda == | |||
In the Incidents section there appears to be a multitude of spelling and grammar issues, the section reads quite childish with an apparent aversion to soft 'c's. | |||
:I've gone through this section and tidied it up a bit. ] ] 17:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
Big brother franchise what are the procedures and requirements for establishing a new big brother in particular big brother Uganda. ] (]) 19:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Map could be altered == | |||
== "10 to 25 people desperate for attention agree to live with each other for 60 to 130 days in order to gain fame or a cash prize" listed at ] == | |||
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== "align=left" == | |||
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Currently, all "align=left" in the ] table were removed by the user ] for no reason. It makes contents in the tables not aligned and looks messy. I reverted this edit move but this user undid my revert. OK, I'm not starting an edit war, so this should be discussed. | |||
The Big Brother map that identifies countries who have their own version could be altered in Canada. In Canada only French speaking parts like Quebec have their own Big Brother while the English speaking part watches and participates in the American Big Brother, at least from my understanding. So maybe Canada can be changed to reflect that it takes part in a foreign version (BB America) and has its own (Loft Story, Secret Story). <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:56, August 26, 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Should "align=left" be added back as before or keep it as what it is right now? Please explain your reasons. | |||
== What are the Rules? == | |||
—— ] (]) 12:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC+8) | |||
Are the rules of the game posted anywhere? | |||
:The "align=left" should be put back the table looks like an even bigger mess than it originally was. '''''<span style="background:#4169E1;padding:2px; border-radius:7px"><span class="nowrap">]]</span></span>''''' 07:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC) | |||
== Against Public Vote == | |||
Here are some of the questions I have about the rules of the game: | |||
So on the nominations table, it looks more professional to list all the housemates in alphabetic order, not list "all housemates". I've been changing them on all the series', so please leave them alone. It takes a lot of work and looks better to list everyone. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
1) What happens when they are down to the final 3? Is there still a HOH and a Veto? | |||
2) Who decides who wins? It is a vote from the Jury? Do they get to watch the cams or have they been in the dark since they left? | |||
3) If in the final four two people get put on the block then one of the block members wins veto I would assume that the remaining person automatically gets put on the block ( assuming they use it to save themselves ). Who then gets to vote? Only the one taken off the block? Basically meaning that the Veto winner of the final four gets to vote off the person of their choice ( other than the HOH and themself ) It almost makes the block pointless right? | |||
:Hi, thank you for your editing. When everyone is nominated, it usually happens in a twist or some kind of punishment. At this time, when you list all the nominees, the nominations table will become longer, especially when dozens of housemates are nominated at the same time in the early stages of some seasons, the noms table will become extremely long, it will only be more difficult to view. This is not a matter of what is professional, "All Housemates" has been so used for almost two decades, and it has made it very clear that everyone is nominated, and also you can easily to find the names on the left side of the noms table, so there is no need to write a long list of names unless there are only one or two people not nominated. —— ] (]) 15:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC+8) | |||
::But if everyone is nominated, why not list that everyone is nominated. That's what the "Against Public Vote" section is for. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 19:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Anyway can someone answer these? | |||
:::{{Re|Sisters133}} When all the Housemates for the week are nominated for eviction or "against public vote" the consensus is for the column to say "All Housemates" which indicates the same thing as listing them all individually. The reason for this is to keep the table and the article at a reasonable size. '''''<span style="background:#4169E1;padding:2px; border-radius:7px"><span class="nowrap">]]</span></span>''''' 15:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::{{Re|Sisters133}} Can you please stop changing them. Reasons above. Misplaced Pages is not a place where everyone must follow your own ideas. —— ] (]) 12:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC+8) |
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fewer than 16 participants
Should it not read "fewer than 16 viewers" as well? There must be some way that is within the scope of Wiki to include that fact that the program is so boring that the "live feed" can sometimes show "a spiderweb with a spider in it" as "the most interesting thing going on at the moment?" There must be some reviews out there some where thay liken the program to watching paint dry, dead grass grow or so on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bat Flattery (talk • contribs) 21:03, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
What are the Rules?
Are the rules of the game posted anywhere?
Here are some of the questions I have about the rules of the game:
1) What happens when they are down to the final 3? Is there still a HOH and a Veto?
2) Who decides who wins? It is a vote from the Jury? Do they get to watch the cams or have they been in the dark since they left?
3) If in the final four two people get put on the block then one of the block members wins veto I would assume that the remaining person automatically gets put on the block ( assuming they use it to save themselves ). Who then gets to vote? Only the one taken off the block? Basically meaning that the Veto winner of the final four gets to vote off the person of their choice ( other than the HOH and themself ) It almost makes the block pointless right?
Anyway can someone answer these?
- You need to sign your posts and the rules that you are mentioning are exclusive to the American Big Brother. And even though this isn't the place I will answer your questions:
The Final Four The Final Three Jury Members - Head of Household is determined
- The HoH nominates two of the remaining three HG's for eviction
- The Final Power of Veto competition is held.
- The Final PoV winner can chose if they want to use the veto.
- The one HouseGuest NOT nominated is the sole vote for eviction.
- The Final Head of Household competition is held.
- The winner of Part One advances to Part Three and skips Part Two.
- The losers from Part One battle in Part Two. The winner advances to Part Three.
- The winners from Parts One and Two compete for the final HoH in Part Three.
- The winner of Part Three is the final HoH and guaranteed a spot in the Final Two.
- There is no Power of Veto competition.
- The losers of the final HoH competition are nominated by default for eviction.
- The Final HoH choses one of the remaining two HouseGuests to be evicted.
- The last seven evicted HouseGuests comprise the Jury.
- Jury Members are not allowed contact with the outside world, even though they have been evicted.
- The Jury is sequestered in a special house generally in Mexico.
- The only footage the Jury is allowed to see is competitions and ceremonies. They are not allowed to see any Diary Room footage or any footage containing strategy.
- The Jury decides the winner of Big Brother once there are two HouseGuests left.
- America will control Eric's jury vote in Big Brother 8 due to Eric being America's Player. Generally America does not have a vote in who wins.
- Hope this helps you. It is detailed and simple as I could make it. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 02:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
4) Where do the housmates go when they ae evicted, why are they not let out into the normal world like in bigbrother uk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.89.236 (talk) 18:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
- Housemates go back to their regular lives unless there is a twist involved. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 21:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Added a section about Twins/Triplets
It's not great, but I put it in the variation of format section. If anybody else can make it look better, it would be much appreciated. MadMagFreak 05:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
- Why does it keep getting changed? Notable winners are NOT a variation of the original format! Someone help me out here! MadMagFreak 23:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
What does "used name" mean in this section? I came here to learn about the show, and this terminology in the Twin's Section is very mystifying to me. I hope that someone can edit this section to make this clear to a non-fan. 75.211.67.86 (talk) 14:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
I just figured this out while reading the http://en.wikipedia.org/Big_Brother_(U.S.) page. Apparently the twins played as "one player" and swapped places during the game/show. This should be explained in this listing. 75.211.67.86 (talk) 14:35, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Cleaning up the article
I am in the process of cleaning up the article in hope of decreasing its size and removing that annoying tag on the front. You can see my current progress at my Sandbox. I have the "Format" area done and spitted up the information to make it easier to read. You can see what material I have removed in User:Alucard 16/Sandbox/Removed. Any comments on what to do is nice I love comments. I didn't want to make the changes directly to the article since their big changes. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 05:43, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
I am going to assist you with this topic. I have already changed some spelling errors found in the articles. I will edit any small errors that i find. Some Weird Guy named Shawn... 21:14, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
How can we clean-up the article? It seems like the variation part is too long. Maybe for the UK twists, we can do what we did with the battle house, and write the UK twisst as a list in bullet point form, and then add versions which used those twist for each bullet point. LordBelly06 (talk) 09:28, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Big Brother US Incidents
I kind of tweaked the US incidents to a easier to find format. If anyone likes it, I will proceed to do the whole incident section with that format —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anarchy 228 (talk • contribs) 15:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Official websites
Shouldn't all of the official website links be at the bottom of the page in the eternal links section rather than in the table In23065 (talk) 20:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think so, a lot of shows that have a similar table have the links in the table. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 21:42, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think it would make the table much more compact and simple, over the next few days i will work on it in my sandbox and we can go from there. In23065 (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
- Where's the Big Brother Exchange section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.136 (talk) 10:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Oh yeah. Thanks for telling me i have now restored it.In23065 (talk) 15:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- Where's the Big Brother Exchange section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.136 (talk) 10:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think it would make the table much more compact and simple, over the next few days i will work on it in my sandbox and we can go from there. In23065 (talk) 21:51, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
My Recent revert
I have reverted the page a couple of times today as Season 7 of BB USA was listed twice in the table - together with the other standard BB USA editions and also underneath as an All Star edition. It has always been listed on the page as an All Star edition. But in any case it should not be listed twice which is why I reverted it. Sorry if I have caused an "edit war" or offended anyone, it was not my intention. Worldofbb (talk) 22:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted it once because I didn't realise that it was in a different area and i thought that you were vandalising it In23065 (talk) 14:27, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Note: Big Brother USA Season listing
In the American version, the broadcaster counts the All-Stars edition as Season 7. However, other countries count their All-Stars version as a seperate edition of Big Brother and it doesn't count towards their main edition. It was decided when back when there was a seperate article for spin-off editions that the seventh season of the American version would not be counted as a main edition, it would be counted along with the spin-off editions. . Now when the tables were merged the seventh season is still counted seperate from the main editions because it is an "All-Stars" version of the American edition. The main editions (seasons with new people each year) are listed as 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,9,10 with 7 omitted because it is listed down with the "All-Stars" edition and repeating it twice is redundant and makes the article bigger. Due to the previous discussion if anyone merges the two sections on the table for Big Brother US together or list Season 7 in both the main edition section and the All-Stars section will be counted as vandalism. If you feel this should be changed discuss it first. ♪♫Alucard 16♫♪ 01:06, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Dead Set
E4, which is a network belonging to UK TV network channel 4, have announced a zombie horror show based directly on the franchise. Called "Dead Set" it is about a zombie outbreak that happens outside of the house and the contestants are in the only safe place. Not sure if you want to add this to the wiki entry some how magnius (talk) 21:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Dead Set is a Spin-off (look at that page, tell me how it isn't!) from the British version of Big Brother. It features the same presenters in cameo roles, is filmed in the actual BB house and name checks BB frequently. It is made by the same production company for broadcast on the same channel as BB. It IS a spin off and should remain on this entry as it is very relevant to the show. magnius (talk) 15:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I agree that it may not be relevant to BB as a whole, but at least keep it on the BB:UK page, it is an official BB:UK show :) magnius (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
- This is not the place for it please keep the section in Big Brother (UK) untill we decide what we are going to do with it. In23065 (talk) 15:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
prizes
in the erticle writen that in some editions the prizes is house and tour etc. do you know in which editions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.172.203 (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
- nnobody knows? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.181.180 (talk) 10:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
Controversy?
I think Big Brother made a big deal of controversy which should be mentioned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.2.25.38 (talk) 21:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- The Controversy section was moved to individual Big Brother Series. In23065 (talk) 23:02, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Does Loft Story belong here?
I don't believe the derivative series "Loft Story", listed as being produced in Canada and France, should be included here. Loft Story, to me knowledge, is not connected to Big Brother in any way and is simply an adaptation of the format. In fact the Misplaced Pages article on Canada's version says nothing about it being part of the Big Brother franchise. I say it should be removed from the charts and general discussion and replaced with a See Also link. Are there other versions listed here that aren't really Big Brother? 68.146.62.92 (talk) 13:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Subtitle Chart
I don't know how to change it, but Enemies was not a subtitle for Big Brother 8 (US), just a theme. Can someone do that please?Stjimmy61892 (talk) 19:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Project: Clean-Up
To the administrators: how can we clean-up the article? What particular part/s of the articles are in need of a clean-up? LordBelly06 (talk) 06:55, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
Pan-Regional Big Brothers
So far, there are, listed, 6 pan-regional Big brothers. What's the truth about the Greek Big brother as a "Greece and Cyprus" Big Brother?LordBelly06 (talk) 01:24, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Section on Current Status
Shouldn't there be a section in this article on which franchise are still running and which have already been cancelled? I already know of UK, Australia, and Middle East being cancelled. Philippines, Africa, Finland, and Yugoslavia are still running, I think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.178.195 (talk) 10:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Mole or sabatour
There should be mention of this somewhere in the variations section, the uk has had this the usa too and some other countries.--Cooly123 21:54, 29 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)
International housemate winning
With the 3rd teen phillipeans edition won by a canadian, there should be a note of winners of big brother who were not actually from the home country from the said edition.--Cooly123 00:27, 1 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)
I deleted the Chinese flag icon beside the name of Kim Chiu, the BB teen winner from the Philippines. She has a Cjinese blood but she is never a Chinese citizen or even came from China. She was born and raise in the Philippines. :)
Evictions and length
Can someone find the earliest eviction for the show otherall and the latest 1st evicton too? Also, what is the shorest season in days and the longest in days (disregard any celebrity editions and big brother germany 1 year show). --Cooly123 19:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)
Upcoming series
Could we have an upcoming series subsection on the main page?--Cooly123 20:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cooly123 (talk • contribs)
- The table already lists the upcoming series, in fact they are in bold so they are easier to find. I don't see the benefit of an upcoming series section. AnemoneProjectors 23:16, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
- I agree! Having a dedicated section would most likely lead to the posting of countless rumors and speculation. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. At this level we are only interested in verifiable information. The Big Brother pre-season is filled with countless unverified rumor and some outright lies which do not belong on Misplaced Pages. 142.110.227.247 (talk) 02:05, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Big Brother Finland #5
In the list of series and their winners, BB Finland #5 (2009) winner Aso Alanso's nationality is marked as Iranian. However there is source for that. And more importantly the list is the only place where this info even is. 85.217.34.189 (talk) 14:14, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
Big Brother China?
Does anyone have information about the possibility of Big Brother going to China? Also we should list the year in which Big Brother started (1999) and the following years and which Big Brother's had started airing, finishing with currently new 2011 Big Brother begining.--Cooly123 22:58, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
- The likelihood of Big Brother in China is highly unlikely. Please remember that Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not a means of relaying rumor or speculation. The only way such information would be included here would be if there was some sort of confirmation from Endemol or the local producers in China. Please refrain from asking such questions here in the future as they have no relation to the article or the way the article is edited. 142.110.227.247 (talk) 01:58, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Big Brother is a awful, pointless tv programme, it taes up valuable tv time alll they do is spy on cluelesss contestants in a big house while, the contestants triumphantly try and win the big cash prize.
lily evans'
--92.26.222.121 (talk) 06:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)--92.26.222.121 (talk) 06:58, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Requested move
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: Improper/undiscussed move reverted. Ckatzspy 08:54, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Big Brother (Television Franchise) → Big Brother (TV series) – Page moved improperly and without any reason to justify the new title. Jonas kam (talk) 05:46, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
which adopted nomination discusion in 2011?
Article says "the ] version adapted the discussion of nominations in 2011 ." Which country was it? United States or United Kingdom? --EarthFurst (talk) 07:07, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
- It had been changed to United Kingdom, but this felt a little strange so I linked it to the relevant BB article. Are readers really going to want to see links to articles on the host countries? Perhaps this should be revisited. Reidgreg (talk) 23:41, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
Tables
I've removed bold and italic from the table in words such as "upcoming season" because it goes against Misplaced Pages's manual of style. I started making further cleanups, but haven't finished. This includes using italics for titles (everything under "Local title" should be italic) and making sure the word "season" is in lower case (where it appears after a presenter's name). Does anyone have objections? Especially to the removal of bold (the other stuff should be fine). –AnemoneProjectors– 15:59, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
- Clearly people object because all my hard work, that conforms to the manual of style, has been changed back to include bold and italic and upper case text. This is wrong. But I'm not going to change it back, I'm just going to let this article look incredibly unprofessional. Since nobody else cares, why should I? –AnemoneProjectors– 13:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Advice to copy editors
This article was tagged for (among other things) copyediting, and one of a copy editor's jobs is to bring an article into compliance with the Manual of Style. MOS:FLAG states, "Do not emphasize nationality without good reason"
and "Do not use flags to indicate locations of birth, residence or death"
. It took me several days to painstakingly copyedit this article; if it's tagged again for copyediting, I suggest removing the {{copy edit}} tag from the article, tagging the talk page with {{GOCEreviewed}} and moving on. Don't waste your time, as I did. Miniapolis 15:08, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your hard work. I have previously spent a lot of time removing all the bold and italic text from the tables, only to have them be put back in within days, so this article is something that needs very closely monitoring for these kinds of edits. I'm not going to do it more than once. If people want to mess up the page, I'll just let them. (As you can see from the section above, which I had forgotten about!) –AnemoneProjectors– 18:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Sexual relationships
This is a major aspect of the series, so I added a line in "Overview" about this. Although I didn't add a source, it's easily verifiable that sexual relationships do occur and how much is shown varies - US Big Brother shows nothing, whereas some of the European versions broadcast pretty much everything, or their Net feeds do. I think this can be expanded upon, however, as this aspect of the show has received non-trivial news coverage regarding controversy, and when the UK version of Big Brother broadcast intercourse between contestants for the first time, it made headlines. 70.72.201.229 (talk) 15:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
Frankie Grande
Frankie Grande redirects to his sister Ariana Grande's article. Can anyone start a separate article for Frankie Grande? After college, where he was a Biology/performance major, he started his acting career in the National Tour of Dora the Explorer Live!. He then appeared in Mamma Mia! on Broadway, held the title of Mr. Broadway 2007, produced Jude Law's Hamlet on Broadway (and vehicles for David Hyde Pierce and Jim Belushi), founded the non-profit arts empowerment organization Broadway in South Africa, toured with Justin Bieber and his sister (as a dancer), and had his own one-man show in New York. He also has an expanding social media presence. See this, for example. He is currently appearing on Big Brother. Here is more Biographical info on him and here is his Big Brother bio video. Happy editing, everyone. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
Versions table colours
Colours shouldn't be used to show if a programme is current, past or whatever. There's a column that makes it clear what's what, it says "upcoming season" or "current season", if there's one on or coming soon. The use of colour makes the table look messy and actually harder to understand, and goes against WP:ACCESS. Can we remove the colours please? –AnemoneProjectors– 11:39, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- I preferred it when there was a section below saying the current and upcoming series. ThisIsDanny (talk) 23:43, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe we should bring that back. –AnemoneProjectors– 08:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Contestant names and country flags
Where a flag is used next to a contestant name, is that supposed to indicate the contestant's most recent residence, their citizenship, or something else? I want to make some clarifications and corrections on one of the pages, but I want to make sure the policy is consistent. These distinctions do have consequences for some of these potential edits. Rhialto (talk) 17:15, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
New Seasons
Some of the new upcoming seasons are too soon to be included in the article as there is not much to be said about them, other than the confirmation of the future seasons.--OfficerAPC (talk) 01:35, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
copyedit Nov 2016
This is a summary of my copyedit:
- general grammar, punctuation, spelling, markup, cleanup, and minor redundancies of phrasing
- serial commas were only used 1/3 of the time, so for consistency I removed them (except for inline lists in Housemate Exchanges and Evicted Housemate Visits where they were needed for clarity).
- for consistency, used "US" in reference to the American version of the show (see: MOS:NOTUSA); I feel this also works better in the context of a global franchise to disambiguate from other meanings of "American".
- in agreement with Plain English, rephrased some overly-formal language (eg: with whom, to which, etc.)
- when a single series ran over a year break, I used the briefer two-digit number for the closing year of the date range, as tends to be done with television and athletic seasons. (MOS:DATERANGE) eg, BB Germany season 6 (2005–06). (This was already done in the charts at the end.) When describing multiple seasons, I'd use the full four-digit year for both ends of the range.
- WP:overlinking: sometimes the same term was linked three times in a paragraph; once per section should be sufficient for an article of this size.
- the section hierarchy needed a little work. (1) I promoted the empty section Multi-Franchise Competitions up one level so that Eurovision Song Contest and FIFA World Cup fit within it. (2) I made a section for Twists (single series) and demoted all of the single-series twist sections (some of which were a single paragraph) to fit within it. (That should also tighten-up the table of contents and eliminate some whitespace.)
- There were two twists in Multiple Franchise#Other which did not involve multiple franchises; I moved these to the beginning of the main Other category for now. (I'll try to look at further organizing this section, or moving some items up into the other Twist sections.)
I'll be making another pass, looking at what can be summarized a little more concisely – after reading several of the series articles to be sure I understand the meaning. (This article is meant to be a summary of 387 series, and should only mention what's notable at that level.)
If you have any questions or comments, feel free to post them here. Thanks! – Reidgreg (talk) 17:25, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
I finished reorganizing the "Other" sections into appropriate "Twist" sections or "Special Editions". I still need to go over it and do some cleanup. Please leave that to me. Also, if I reverted anyone else's copyedit, please bring it here to discuss. Reidgreg (talk) 00:01, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
Okay, finished cleanup and additional copyedit following the organizational work. A couple notes to editors:
- This article is a summary of 387 shows so please be careful with some of the sweeping statements (eg: the game has 10 contestants and is played over 3 months). Although a lot of information can be drawn from primary sources, statements like these should be cited and dated.
- Watch some of the trivial details. Mentioning a twist and the editions in which it first occurred is enough, readers can follow the links for more information.
- Please discuss on the talk page when changing established material, especially changes to matters already discussed.
Thank-you for your attention. Again, if you have any questions please feel free to ask. - Reidgreg (talk) 15:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
Should the most recent winner be included?
Is there really a need to include the most recent winner in the versions section. I don't really see a reason to because this page is about the franchise as a whole not independent versions. TheDoctorWho (talk) 12:18, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
- That information should only be included in the individual version articles; this article serves as the aggregate article for the whole franchise. OfficerAPC (talk) 13:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise)
You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Bigg Boss (franchise). TheDoctorWho (talk) 05:26, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Need help on formulation
Hi!
I edited the following paragraph to the article (March 16 2019 8:36) "Commercial Realisation
Today, many websites offer for a fee an insight into the private rooms of unsuspecting people. One example is reallifecam.com . The websites often pretend to the viewer a victim's knowledge about the espionage, thereby playing both ends against the middle by using the viewers' shame about their act of voyeurism together with the viewer's fear of prosecution to silence the audience."
As all of my edits it has been deleted. Can you help me please to write in an acceptable way? Is the naming of the website not ok, as it is not closed, and probably will never? Or is the whole paragraph not acceptable, as it shows the realisation of the dystopia and a lacking intervention of the security agencies? Or what else is the issue?
As all of my edits, these questions are not meant to be accusing but asked very directly in hope to get a direct answer how to reformulate the paragraph to match wikipedias terms of acceptance. On the official page only formal rules are explaint, no rules about content.
Maybe User 2602:306:3793:A3B0:FC85:F6A0:83BE:945A himself can tell what exactly made him delete the paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:A198:9000:106B:85B5:FFB:F444 (talk) 01:47, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Big brother Uganda
Big brother franchise what are the procedures and requirements for establishing a new big brother in particular big brother Uganda. Arslan 2019 (talk) 19:24, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
"10 to 25 people desperate for attention agree to live with each other for 60 to 130 days in order to gain fame or a cash prize" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"align=left"
Currently, all "align=left" in the Versions table were removed by the user Gervoi for no reason. It makes contents in the tables not aligned and looks messy. I reverted this edit move but this user undid my revert. OK, I'm not starting an edit war, so this should be discussed.
Should "align=left" be added back as before or keep it as what it is right now? Please explain your reasons.
—— A675974811 (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2019 (UTC+8)
- The "align=left" should be put back the table looks like an even bigger mess than it originally was. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 07:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Against Public Vote
So on the nominations table, it looks more professional to list all the housemates in alphabetic order, not list "all housemates". I've been changing them on all the series', so please leave them alone. It takes a lot of work and looks better to list everyone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisters133 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for your editing. When everyone is nominated, it usually happens in a twist or some kind of punishment. At this time, when you list all the nominees, the nominations table will become longer, especially when dozens of housemates are nominated at the same time in the early stages of some seasons, the noms table will become extremely long, it will only be more difficult to view. This is not a matter of what is professional, "All Housemates" has been so used for almost two decades, and it has made it very clear that everyone is nominated, and also you can easily to find the names on the left side of the noms table, so there is no need to write a long list of names unless there are only one or two people not nominated. —— A675974811 (talk) 15:48, 19 January 2020 (UTC+8)
- But if everyone is nominated, why not list that everyone is nominated. That's what the "Against Public Vote" section is for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisters133 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Sisters133: When all the Housemates for the week are nominated for eviction or "against public vote" the consensus is for the column to say "All Housemates" which indicates the same thing as listing them all individually. The reason for this is to keep the table and the article at a reasonable size. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 15:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- @Sisters133: Can you please stop changing them. Reasons above. Misplaced Pages is not a place where everyone must follow your own ideas. —— A675974811 (talk) 12:59, 5 February 2020 (UTC+8)
- @Sisters133: When all the Housemates for the week are nominated for eviction or "against public vote" the consensus is for the column to say "All Housemates" which indicates the same thing as listing them all individually. The reason for this is to keep the table and the article at a reasonable size. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 15:12, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- But if everyone is nominated, why not list that everyone is nominated. That's what the "Against Public Vote" section is for. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sisters133 (talk • contribs) 19:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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