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==Awards== |
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I think it's more appropriate to discuss any awards and such in here. The awards the band has received that are noted are the ARIA awards, but there's many other Australian music awards, such as Songwriter's guild awards, Triple J music awards and things like that, and I believe that Powderfinger has won at least one or two of each of those, but surely have won others, not to mention some notable internet awards. I know I'm being vague, but that's because it's years since I really thought about it or heard it. I know for sure that '']'' won an award on the TV show Recovery for playing "Boing Boing," based on the fact that they chose not to play a single and opted for a general album track. Though that award may not carry the weight that these ones do, there are definitely some other notable awards won by the band. --]] 11:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:I did some research, but couldn't find anything. I'll take another look later on. ]]]] 05:06, 28 May 2007 (UTC) |
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: I've added in the APRA awards (and the triple J ones earlier :) ] 16:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== List of singles == |
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I just came across this site http://www.ozmusic-central.com.au/powderfinger/song_file/singles.htm which lists all of the tracks that were released on each CD single. As well as images of each of them. ] 09:08, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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:I've only just come back to editing heavily here. I found some with slightly bigger images at Hindley Site, so I'm using them. I actually own all of them other than "The Day You Come" but they're all under lock and key... and boxes and much other stuff, unfortunately. --]] 13:27, 1 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Triple J Table == |
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Hey Giggy, yeah I was feeling quite keen to create the table. I don't have any refs, I just used the rankings that were already there. The Triple J site would probably have a full list. You were quick to rate the "These Days" article :-) ] 03:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:I'm logging off now (soon), so I'll give you the task of checking Triple J for them =P As for These Days, I was editing {{tl|Powderfinger}} and noticed the lack of red link...what are the odds :D - ]]] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 03:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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: Things can change quickly on wikipedia! I don't think I'll be able to do much in the next 2 weeks, but I'll try and get around to it some time, unless someone else wants to do it? I won't be online for much longer, just had to check a couple of things. ] 04:09, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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: Linca, if you see this, I was referring to G1ggy, who didn't bold one of the years, not one of the awards. Nothing major. ] 05:10, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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: Thanks to whomever formatted the table, it looks good and I wasn't sure how to do it. If someone wants to add in references, its at http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/hottest100/history/ ] 16:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:: Added the refs. The year articles such as ] need to have the sources too, it's now unreferenced. ] 17:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Ok, it was added. Thank you G1ggy for taking the initiative to add them. ] 12:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC) |
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== Expand this section? == |
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Does anyone have in mind what, specifically, needs to be added to ]. I think we need more info in individual albums, but anything else? - ]]] <sup>]</sup>/<sub>]</sub> 22:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC) |
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:Late response, but I was the one who tagged that section. I just think it needs to be broken into 2 sections: One indicating rpe-recording era/"formation" (1989-1993) and a section with "Local success"/early recording era. I just think for a 9 year period, we kind of just skim over where the band actually came from. We make no mention in there of ] or the next one and just lots of info could be there, but I honestly don't know much about the band before Transfusion (the first EP I got, which was copied onto a tape in 1995). I'm sure we could find out more about Alister Donkin and Steven Bishop and somehow elaborate on their initial participation. Why did they really leave? Did the band ever write any material before Fanning joined the band? If so, what kind of music was it? Was the band a heavier rock band or were they mellower back then? |
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:I know I'm asking more questions than I'm giving answers and that's because I really don't know the answers to these and don't have much info to give up. --]] 13:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC) |
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::I can answer one question; it's quite likely they were heavier rock. Judging by Tail (which I have on the DDatHE bonus DVD), and by the alternative title to Fingerprints (which was "From heavy metal to Centenary Medal"). ] <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup>] 22:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Oh yeah, I know they were heavy rock, (I mean, I have Parables, Mr Kneebone and Double Allergic, which shows their heavier stuff) but what kind of heavy rock? I used to have Automatic/Transfusion on cassette, and they were pretty heavy, but we have almost no info on The Blue EP and other works from their earlier sessions. I saw them in 95, 96 and 98 and their heaviness reduced in this time, but I suspect before I tuned in, they may have been heavier still (especially considering the heaviness of The Predators and such). Anyway, it's just me crapping on, but I think it needs to be in there, if we can muster it. --]] 04:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Free image? == |
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Has anyone seen Powderfinger in concert/live, and got an image of them? A GFDL image for this article would be quite useful! ] <sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup>] 23:47, 18 July 2007 (UTC) |
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==GAC== |
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I've nominated this article for GA - I'll keep working on copy-editing etc. during that time, but I think the content is mostly good. ] <sup>] | ]</sup> 04:05, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I think it's almost ready, but I don't know that it'll pass on a few merits: There's not really anything here that discusses the band's musical style and I still think we need some expansion from the early era. I'm not ruling out the possibility of GA approval, but this definitely needs to be addressed before going to FAC, but it wouldn't hurt to be addressed now. --]] 04:22, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Go for it - I'm not in a research mood, but if you OR it I can source it :) ] <sup>] | ]</sup> 04:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I just went through the article and made a few minor grammatical changes, it's looking pretty good. However there is some conflicting info on the ARIA awards, in the intro it says they won 14, but on the awards page and down the bottom in the table it mentions only 13. Does someone want to confirm this? ] 06:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::] lists 13 - I've gone ahead and changed the intro, unless someone can verify/prove that it's 14. ] <sup>] | ]</sup> 07:01, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::There's 14 on <span class="plainlinks"></span>. I'm feeling too lazy to check which one's missing from out listing, but feel free. The whole list's right there. I'll get onto writing up a style section (much as I did the one for ]). --]] 07:26, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Ok, I'll try to get that streamlined before I'm ] :P ] <sup>] | ]</sup> 07:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Actually, I found it. It was Odyssey with highest selling album. I've updated it now, and used the actual ARIA site as a reference for it, too. --]] 07:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Oh, I was about to hit myself for counting 14, then I realised you'd changed the page at ]...should check my watchlist more :P ] <sup>] | ]</sup> 07:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== GA review == |
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Here you go, my invaluable "The Rambling Man GAC critique (tm)" comments... |
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*Don't wikilink individual years. |
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*Too many capitalisations in the lead, Drums, Bass Guitar, Backing Vocals" etc - they're not proper nouns so use lower case. |
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*"..settling in 1992." - I'd find it better to say something like "...their lineup since 1992 consists of...". |
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*I'm no expert but I don't think the band photo can be used under a Fair Use rationale because they're a current band and all someone needs to do is take their photo as a group. |
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*"..an recipient.."? Copyedit time! |
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*The ''album'' sections are short and contain a lot of single-sentence paragraphs. I'd attempt to merge them into a couple of chronological sections (so not by album, but, perhaps, by era/style/lineup) and merge the sentences into paragraphs. |
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*Personal opinion but the album covers would look better all the same size. The last one is slightly larger and thus looks a bit strange. |
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*If you use the <nowiki>{{main|blah}}</nowiki> template then don't wikilink the same blah straight away, overwikilinktastic. |
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* ref needs to be moved to other side of full stop - check all others while you're there... |
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*Hmm, so you've got a section for each album then a discography section which is a list of each album you've already discussed. I would definitely look at sectioning the previous sections differently... |
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*I don't think you need all the See also links, well, at least, not the ones that are already linked to with the main template. |
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So, several comments. I'll place it on hold. Get on with it! ] 16:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Won't have much time myself for the first part of today, but tonight (ie. the time I asked TRM to review it last night) I'll be on, and will get to it (unless somebody beats me to it). Yay! ] <sup>]</sup> 22:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::I'll mull over these and see what I come up with. --]] 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::A couple of things, wikilinking individual years is what we're supposed to do in cases of "Tom was born on ], ]" but not when it's "Tom was born in ]". Is that what you mean? Because the dates need to be wikilinked otherwise they don't parse and change for different user settings (see ] for why this is important). Secondly, I'll leave the image there for now, but I'll update one when I can, but if that's the only thing holding us back (once I correct everything else) can it be overlooked as I try to source one? Flickr and the other sources seem to be a bit light on, just like my wallet being why I'm not going to the concert. --]] 03:30, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Yep, you're correct on dates. And you're richer then me :P Actually, I left a request at ] ] <sup>]</sup> 03:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::{{tick}} All done, except for an image of the band. I'm still looking for a decent one. Otherwise, I've made some adjustments, such as adding in the external link for Hindley Site. I know it's a fan based site, but as per ], external links need not be the official site, but simply a reliable and valuable resource. I'm not advocating a bunch of EL, but just the one fan one in addition to the 2 official ones. So, if it's holding up the GA acceptance with the picture, please let us know asap and we'll do what we can. otherwise, all of the review items have been addressed. --]] 04:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I added a link to Powderfinger Central too, because quite frankly, it's my preferred site :) I'll also take a look to see if any other copyediting is needed, but as usual, Linca beat me to it (same reviewer as when we did Dream Days, and same result!) ] <sup>]</sup> 04:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::As I said, I'm no expert, I'm just afraid that the image really doesn't qualify for Fair Use since it is possible to recreate the article with a free alternative - the band are still alive and together. In my opinion, if you can't find a free image then, for the sake of the GA, I'd just remove the image. It's not required for the GA and its absence wouldn't preclude me passing the article, but its presence is a worry. ] 07:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::I removed the image as it does not qualify as fair use, the band is still active. ] 08:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Agreed, the band is still active, but we aren't able to go out and take a photo of them (now). Are you? Anyway, with the image removed, is it GA worthy? ] <sup>]</sup> 08:58, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Allow me a bit more time to re-review and I'll let you know Giggy... ] 09:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Almost there == |
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Okay, I just noticed this: |
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*"Powderfinger is a rock band ..." vs "Powderfinger are highly successful..." - the usual "is" vs "are" argument for collectives. Now I'm not fussed either way, but I think consistency needs to be maintained across the article. |
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*First paragraph of "The era of side projects (2005–2007)" and last para of "Personnel" section are both uncited. |
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I've merged a few of the paragraphs, hopefully in a suitable fashion - I don't like lots of small paragraphs, it looks nasty and is choppy to read. Besides the two comments above, we're ready to go... ] 09:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:In the meantime, I found two images which may suffice - (not sure if the first contains everyone). I've asked Random to take a look at these, and if you want to as well TRM, that would be great. In the meantime, I'll take a quick look at the issues noted above. ] <sup>]</sup> 09:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Of those images, I saw the first one when I went through flickr before, but didn't like that Haugsy's not in it. Other than that, it's a nice shot. Giggy, can you look for refs for the "era" and personnel sections? ta. --]] 11:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::Oh, and Powderfinger ''is'' a band, not ''are''. Collective decisions when referring to collections of people should be referred to as a singular unit (Aus/UK grammar, and I belive it's the same in the USA). --]] 11:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Interesting. In the UK, say I was talking about ], then I'd definitely 100% say that "Oasis are a band", not "Oasis is a band"..., that's UK English for you. ] 22:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::In my opinion, I'd say "Powderfinger is a popular Australian band", or "Bernard Fanning is a solo artist", contrasting with "Powderfinger and Drag are Australian bands", it reads better and would be the correct Australian grammar. ] 00:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::Ok, it now says "is" (not "are"). ] - you want refs on paragraph 1? I'm on it, and I'll take a look at personnel at some stage. ] <sup>]</sup> 00:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Personnel section - I did as much as I could find. I can't find anything on Alex Lloyd appearing in Odyssey though. I'm going away for a week now, so I won't be able to do the era section...hopefully it'll pass before I get back! ] <sup>]</sup> 01:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Yeah, that was my bad going from memory, but it was Bernie and Sharon who appeared on Alex Lloyd's album ''Watching Angels Mend''. So I removed that. --]] 05:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==GA== |
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For the time being, I've removed the image and passed the article as a ]. An image is not a pre-requisite of a good article, and all this one was doing was making the GA impossible to pass. Well done to everyone involved. ] 11:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Thanks Rambling Man! 2GAs now! WOOT! Time to get it upt o FA. =p --]] 01:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::That's great news! Well done to everyone who contributed. What's next on the agenda? :-) ] 08:47, 13 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::''']''' BTW, Nice work on O#5, Slabba. I've taken a leaf and expanded more in there also (as you can probably see by now). --]] 11:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==To-do== |
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Anyone have info on what early covers they used to do? I reckon that'd be interesting to go in if this will end up at FAC. cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 04:51, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Hmm...other then the obvious - "Powderfinger" by ], I really don't know (I'm too young :P). If it's anywhere on the net, it may be here . ]]\<sup>]</sup> |
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::Great resource that - should makethe job alot easier :) cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Pantera support? == |
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::(OT) I'm glad they had some nice words to say about Juice ''(a defunct Oz band lacking an article page...hmmmmm)'' who I knew a few of...cheers, ] (] '''·''' ]) 05:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC) |
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I'd heard from several different people that Powderfinger were openers for ] during one of the latter's Australian tours. How true is this? --] (]) 06:17, 8 May 2010 (UTC) |
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According to this article (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/music/powderfinger-silverchair-tour/story-e6frexl9-1111113733201), Silverchair and Powderfinger first met in 1994 when they were both supporting Pantera. Not sure if it's really neccessary to the article though. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 04:09, 28 September 2010 (UTC)</small> |
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==FAR?== |
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== Alister Donkin == |
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A user has suggested that this article should be put up for Featured Article Review. Here are the stated concerns: |
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* There are numerous single line paragraphs, which can easily be integrated into other paragraphs, this may indicate a poor quality prose. |
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:*More specifically, the history section just looks like a list of events that occurred, it barely flows if at all. At the moment, the problem seems to be most prominent in the 1998-2003 and 2010 sections, however the other sections may need to be improved to meet FA standards. |
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::*''"Golden Rule debuted at number 1 on the ARIA albums chart."'' |
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::*''"Their song "Drifting Further Away" features on the fifth season Grey's Anatomy episode 'Stairway to Heaven', which aired on 21 January 2009."'' |
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:to name just a few. |
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* Lead violates ]. The article currently has around 56,000 characters including references and templates, hence there's no reason why the lead can't comply with the mentioned guideline. |
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* There are ''numerous'' dead links. |
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What is up with the edit warring about if Donkin was a member of Powderfinger? By the way, a basic google search didn't give further info about the person (they were copied info from Misplaced Pages), and the which was cited before never mentioned the name. Could the people involved who are reverting again and again and leaving warning messages would please stop? ] 18:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:Pursuant to the above, I intending making a number of major edits to this article to stave off the possibility of a FAR leading to a demotion. Consequently the article will look unfinished until the process is complete. Other editors are invited to add constructive work during this time.] (]) 10:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC) |
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::So are you saying that Alister Donkin wasn't a former member? I'm confused... The ] page is pretty messed up at the moment too. ] 02:14, 8 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::I've been at this for over a week and its starting to get into shape. To help me, I'm adding a set of FA tools: |
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:::You're a bit late to the party Random26, I'm afraid. I've asked a major contributor to the article to look into this. But thanks for your interest. If you can find any information that would help resolve the issue that'd be great. ] 10:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:::For your delectation, the thread I initiated is ]. ] 10:43, 8 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Auto Peer Review == |
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::Hopefully I can finish up my major edits within the next week.] (]) 20:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC) |
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Just noticed that it contained a surprisingly large amount of suggestions, so here goes: |
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:::I've done my major editing and added a new Afterwards section updating former members activities since disbandment. Other editors are requested to check for style and other faults which may remain.] (]) 09:12, 16 February 2013 (UTC) |
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== External links modified == |
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*Per ] and ], years with full dates should be linked; for example, link ], ].<sup>]]</sup> |
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Over the weekend, myself and {{user|RaNdOm26}} hit a goldmine of freely-licensed Powderfinger images on Flickr (see ] on Commons]]). See the category for images that could possibly be used in the article. ] <sub color="royalblue">]]</sub> 01:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:There are plenty more images on Flickr from the same user - we should look through them to see if there are images for every band member. ''']''' (]) 01:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC) |
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::We gotta find a picture for ]. ] 06:51, 16 September 2007 (UTC) |
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:::] too, although that'll be harder as he wasn't at the performance. ''']''' (]) 23:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC) |
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== Album covers, flags, and myspace == |
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Cheers.—] <span style="color:green;font-family:Rockwell">(])</span> 15:53, 20 May 2017 (UTC) |
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I'd be interested in other editors' views of , which restores images used in breach of fair use (and which are not particularly illustrative of the band anyway), a Myspace link, and a little Australia flag. Comments? --] 14:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::I believe they should stay. What's wrong the the Australian flag? It's used on many pages. Also the "Blue EP" seems justified to stay there. The Myspace link is an official Powderfinger website too. ] 23:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:The Australian flag seems fine, and the covers for the albums that won the ARIAs for Best Cover Art should stay as well. ~ ''''']''''' <sub style="font-size:8pt;"></font>]]</sub> 23:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::The flag should go. Merely decorative, it already says Australia in text. (]) MySpace should stay. Official/Informative, provides things Misplaced Pages cannot - audio streams, tour information, news, etc. (]) Album covers is a significance thing. ]: ''Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding. Non-free media files are not used if they can be replaced by text that serves a similar function.'' Not sure if they are significant enough. - ] 00:45, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::] - Flags gone, MySpace stays, album covers stay. Any objections to my reasoning? — ''']''' (]) 07:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::]: "The <nowiki>{{album cover}}</nowiki> tag establishes fair use only in an article about the album in question." --] 15:08, 2 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Actually, it says unless a fair use rationale can be provided, for which (I believe, and I'm sorry if I'm wrong) these have all had FURs appended to the image pages in question. If not, one could easily be drafted for each. --]] 02:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::::You must have missed "Fair use images cannot be used purely for decoration. Fair use images cannot be used in discography sections. Fair use images should be used sparingly. Each image must contribute specifically, uniquely and irreplaceably to the article." Just because you can draft a fair use rationale doesn't mean it's an applicable one. It is a lazy way to illustrate a band article anyway, as well as being bad fair use. --] 04:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::::They aren't being used for decoration, and this isn't a discography. They are being used because they contribute specifically, uniquely and irreplaceably to the article - as award winning album covers. I wouldn't object greatly to the removal of the blue EP's cover, but the others should stay, in my opinion, and per my interpretation of MUSTARD. — ''']''' (]) 07:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC) |
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(deindent) I don't think this article should have any more cover images than ] does. I'd say they are being used for decoration and I don't agree the current version satisfies "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." --] 14:19, 3 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:I say the opposite, but I have a reason for doing so. It's not decoration - it's a demonstration of the cover art they are notable for. — ''']''' (]) 07:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::Since you mention the Beatles, it's worthy of note that only one of their album's received any noteworthy awards for its cover, which was Sergeant Peppers. Another thing of note is that the Beatles article is not a guide for what an article should be. It ''should'' be a guide for which all band articles could base themselves, but its standard is not that high any more. It was once a featured article, but just isn't there any more. The article should have a lot more imagery to depict the group. It's actually quite ridiculous how under-imaged the article is. This article passed its GA ''with'' these images as they were "tastefully used". The notion that these fail Fair Use may be in the mind of more than one or two users, but that doesn't validate it. They are fair use, as they are directly referenced and bear direct context to the article. --]] 08:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::That's what I intended to say, but I'm just too lazy :) — ''']''' (]) 08:37, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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::::So, I am confused now. Is your argument that album covers '''are''' fair use in band articles (if "tastefully used"), or that this article is a special case because some (not all) of the images being used won prizes? --] 14:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC) |
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:::::Both. I've removed <s>one</s> two images, now '''all''' of them have won prizes. — ''']''' (]) 00:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC) |
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