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| :The username implies an official role on wikipedia even with the term "unofficial" in it, it also glamourises vandalism where we should ] it. Another major problem with the username is that every time it edits, people are going to see the word vandal and immediately check through the users contributions, wasting time. I've attempted to discuss this with the user, but he hasn't been interested. ] 12:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| *'''Disallow''' - I think Ryan makes good points here. -- <strong>]</strong>] 12:55, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Concur. If this user makes a revert in a content dispute, it'll look like the other party is a vandal. It's better to have a less confrontational name. <b>]</b> (]) 13:02, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Disallow''' Use of vandal within the username likely to be a big timewaster as people check the contributions. Not convinced also that "unofficial", even in Caps can dispel an impression that the 'policeman' role is not directly sanctioned at some level by Misplaced Pages ''''']''' 13:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ===AnarcistPig=== | |||
| {{Rfcn top}}Allow - enough discussion has occurred. -- <strong>]</strong>] 06:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :Spelling error notwithstanding, this name appears to be a slur upon a group. It's certainly not appropriate for an editor intent upon contributing to an encyclopedia. I've blocked the user temporarily for abuse, but I'll be happy to unblock to enable a user name change. ] 17:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| *The image on the user page is disgusting, but I don't see what's wrong with the name. <b>]</b> (]) 17:54, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *It seems to be disparaging a group. If this was "ComunistPig" or "CapitlistPig" it would be obvious. ] 17:57, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| **How is "pig" disparaging? It's just an animal. I bet "AnarchistCat" would be fine. <b>]</b> (]) 18:05, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***A pig in the UK is classed as an insult. ] 18:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***I pig in North America is classed as an insult. ] 18:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ****Why? Because people consider pigs "dirty" and therefore use it as a swear word? It doesn't have to be meant as an insult. Although I have difficulty assuming good faith on this editor (the contribs indicate a troll), I don't think the name is all that disruptive. <b>]</b> (]) 18:14, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***Gee, we didn't make "pig" an insult, it was already that way before we came along. ] 18:16, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *I don't see a problem with this username. He's not actually calling anyone a pig, besides possibly himself. --] 18:17, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| **Indeed, it would be different if the name were "Anarchists are pigs" or something. <b>]</b> (]) 18:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***Pig is also an insult in French and German. Jews and Muslims consider these animals to be "unclean." Perhaps it is only in Dutch that "pig" is neutral. However, the meaning is clear to native English speakers. ] 18:19, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ****A pig is an animal. That some consider these animals unclean and use it as an insult doesn't mean that the username interferes with harmonious editing and is sufficiently offensive that it needs to be blocked. Neo-nazis use "Jew" as an insult; are we going to block anyone with "Jew" in their names? <b>]</b> (]) 18:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ****Yes - if it is used in a manner similar to this one. I think you should trust the native English speakers on this one. That "pig" doesn't have a negative meaning in Dutch has little bearing on this discussion. ] 18:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *****I wasn't talking about the Dutch word, that's got nothing to do with this... "Pig" isn't even a Dutch word. And the translation ("varken") is occasionally used as an insult, indeed, so that's completely irrelevant. <b>]</b> (]) 18:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***No, the way it is used in english is "Anarchist pig" or "stupid pig" - take a look at . ] 18:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * Give the pattern of editing and the context provided by the user name I'm thinking this, at worst, is meant to be self-depreciating. If the username was "User:Anarchists are pigs" then I think this would be a clear-cut case... but thats not what we have here. Since the name is in the singular, I would lean to permitting it. ---] <small>(]/]/])</small> 18:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| * The policy forbids usernames which are blatantly offensive, not usernames that could maybe, somehow, possibly, or someday be offensive. I'm going to move to allow. ] <sup>]</sup> 19:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Allow. Self-deprecation is fine. If the user's behaviour is a problem, then that's a problem, but not one to handle here. ](]) 19:46, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *I don't think it is blatantly offensive, I say allow. ]] 19:47, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *I also don't believe it's blatantly offensive. If they wish to call themselves a pig, that's okay by me. The spelling offends me though. :-) - ] | ] 19:49, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *I would say allow as the name doesn't seem to offend anyone here and it doesn't seem blatantly offensive. ]<small>]</small> <small>]</small> 20:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :FenianSwine was allowed, as a self-deprecating jokey name; it's grand-fathered in but that name is far more offensive than this one. This is similar; the user identifies as an anarchist, and is thus calling themself an anarchist pig. ] 23:02, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::Sounds like a pun on "capitalist pig" if you ask me. ---] <small>(]/]/])</small> 23:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::The name seems OK to me. I don't believe the name is likely to cause offense to anarchists though the image on his user page might cause offense to pigs. However his personal attacks on your talk page and response to your notification of this issue are completely unacceptable and deserve a civility warning if nothing else. ] 00:39, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Seems fine to me. ]]] 08:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::I think that enough discussion has occurred here for any admin to make a decision regarding this name. I choose not to block considering the consensus interpretation of policy and the name, another admin may choose differently. I suggest someone uninvolved close this. ] 16:33, 14 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| The result was '''allow''' – clearly no violation and not a disruptive username, concerns about the user's behaviour may be taken to ANI, WQA etc. Closed a little early per ]. <b>]</b> (]) 16:26, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| :I feel his user name is too similar to my own, and he seemed to create it only after he saw mine at ]. It's the only place he's edited. I left a note for him, but no reply, and he's made a few edits since. ] 03:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| '''allow''' Although he was inspired by your name, I think they are significantly different. Greg and Joe are two completely different names. ] 04:01, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Allow''' not too similar to yours at all. Just because of the "green"... -- <strong>]</strong>] 04:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Allow''' - I declined it from UAA for exactly this reason: I think it's not deceptively similar at all. - ] | ] 04:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Comment''' yes they are different, but I want to point out the account was obviously created for a single purpose. Look at the edits.] 10:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :*'''Comment''' This is not the correct venue to discuss edits. Usernames only please. ] 13:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ::It is if it's related to the intent of the user and their purpose, as this case is. ] 14:47, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :::I agree, the users edits should weigh on their purpose here. That would be a good discussion for ] for trolling, disruption, etc. I would just strongly suggest to only look at the relevance of the users ''name'' here. It is too easy to get side tracked and make a decision on the username, based off of information that has nothing to do with the users ''name''. In this case the name should be allowed. However, if the name is used for trolling it should be discussed at ANI, warned if necessary, blocked if appropriate, indef if no alternative (IMO). But generally I do agree with your logic, Rlevse. ] 14:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *No username vio, but take to ANI for behaviour issues, probably. ](]) 16:24, 12 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| {{#if:Disallow - unanimous since discovering similarity to a known sock/vandal. ] 01:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)|The result was: Disallow - unanimous since discovering similarity to a known sock/vandal. ] 01:06, 12 October 2007 (UTC)}} | |||
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| :I just want to ensure this username doesn't violate ] policy per length before I start editing. I figure the best way to ] would be to let the people decide! ] 03:36, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Comment''' You made an RFC about yourself? <span style="font-family:Arial;color:blue"> '''''Cheers,]]] (])'''''</span> 03:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :I just want to make sure my username is appropriate. I've racked up many hours on Misplaced Pages reading articles and policies, and figure if I register a name that I fancy, that happens to be long, I'd make sure it isn't ''too'' long. ] 03:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *The username is fine in terms of policy. It's longish, but distincive. I'd urge you use something shorter, but if you want RtoQu, well that's up to you. -- ] ]</sup> ]</sub> 04:08, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| :*Well, since it's apparently similar to a vandal's meme, then I go with disallow on that basis only. Sorry. -- ] ]</sup> ]</sub> 16:10, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Care to share why you've chosen this name? How seriously do you want to be taken? My immediate reaction would be "not very". <b>]</b> <small>]</small> 04:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Absolutely no policy problem, whatsoever, but it may lead to people taking you not-entirely-seriously. ](]) 06:40, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| <s>*It is not offensive and longer than average, but nowhere near the length where people would object based on length. It's also comprehensible. ] 12:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)</s> | |||
| *RtoQu is quite catchy I think as an abbreviation, but no there aren't any issues that I can see. ] <sup>]</sup> 12:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Disallow''' based on ], ], ], ], ], and ]. All blocked as sockpuppets of ]. Too similar to a known vandal IMO. --]♠] 12:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Change to disallow''' per Onorem, great catch! Not something one would normally expect.] 12:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| '''comment''' So if you have a name that is "similar" to a vandal's, per policy that is a blockable offense? Thats news to me. ] 15:03, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| **similar to any existing name is blockable.] 15:05, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ***Yup it says "Usernames that are similar to those previously used by persistent vandals or banned users." are not allowed. (] ? (]) 15:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| ****I agree that a different username would be best, but I just have to point out that that isn't what the policy says. It says that "…similar to those previously used by persistent vandals…" is an example of a category of username that may be disruptive, and if they ''are'' disruptive (or deemed, case-by-case, likely to be disruptive) then it's disallowed. ](]) 20:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Disallow''' per Onorem. -- <strong>]</strong>] 15:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Disallow''' name to similar to known vandal. Perhaps just an unfortunate coincidence *]*. (] ? (]) 15:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Change to disallow''' that was a very good catch. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:21, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Please change it. It's not exactly that the name is bad. It's that we allow usernames that are similar to those use by persistent vandals to be blocked preemptively. I don't think that's being suggested here... but then, this pattern is so specific, I am wondering in the back of my head if this user might actually be a sockpuppet. Anyway, nothing wrong with the username per se, but you really don't want to be associated with a vandal, do you? That's not the best way to get started on Misplaced Pages. ]]<sup>]</sup> 16:33, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Disallow''' as above. Too similar to previously blocked users. ]<small>]</small> <small>]</small> 18:41, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *Yeah, I'd definitely change it. Not so much because you ''can't'' have this one, but more that people may think that you are a ], and that you shouldn't ''want'' to have that happen. =) ''']]''' 18:55, 11 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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| '''Disallowed.''' (1) This is clearly inflammatory and provocative, and (2) RFCN is ''not'' an appropriate venue for appealing blocks. Take it up with Rlevse, or at ] if that fails. (closed by Mangojuice) | |||
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| :User:Rlevse blocked this user name on sight. Unforturnately, both the blocker and blocked participated the following discussion - GodDelusion which involves debating atheist statement violates RFCN. The blocking of this account by the said user might violate WP:POINT and WP:AGF. Procedural placement on RFCN. I'm neutral on this. ] 22:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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