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	Please see My response to your reply on the village pump suggestions page.
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			This is Xavexgoem.
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	Hi VS, I am looking for someone to mentor myself. HS, suggested I ask you. Even I think you are the best option for me. But, are you interested in editing on religion. Again, do you have time?'''] '''<sup>]</sup> 07:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Yes. Sometimes I may not be around much for a day or two at once. Life can be a little busy sometimes. :) But, I will certainly try to offer what help I can. Let me know when you are going to have some spare time, and we'll start off with a few questions. OK? Be well!! ] 02:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Yes, not a problem, VS. You can ask me the questions. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 07:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::Hi, I am waiting for my questions. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 06:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::Placing them on your page. ] 17:11, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::::I've answered your questions.'''] '''<sup>]</sup> 10:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

			A long time ago we shared music videos. One of them was weird and it had eggs in it.
	==Indian religions==

			My current Google search phrase is "music video eggs weird -easter -"weird al"", but I have been unable to locate it.
	Hi Vassyana, IAF is once again editing thru IP although he is banned. He is accusing you of cohorting with me and banning him because you are a jain.
	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Indian_religions&diff=160215005&oldid=160206409

			You have not edited since 2011. If for whatever reason you come to this page, ''please'' tell me what this song was. Thank you.
	I suggest that this page be semi-protected. Unfortunately a lot of time and energy is being wasted on unproductive things like edit wars by IAF.--] 08:19, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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	I have addressed the issue and brought it to the attention of other administrators (see: ]). I have also semiprotected the page and marked it with the appropriate template. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know. ] 08:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
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			::: BOO! ] (]) 06:44, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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	Thanks!!....hopefully we can make the contributions in a more positive manner after the unnecessary edit wars.--] 16:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

			Just to let you know I've added you to the list of Missing Wikipedians.—] (] • ]) 06:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
	Hi Vassayana, I couldn’t help reading IAF’s defence and appeal against the ban. I sincerely hope that he reforms and tries to arrive at a consensus rather than edit wars once he is unblocked. I would like to mention one incident wherein at the very outset, I had made a and he . This is just for your information. Cheers.--] 13:10, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
			: I am unmissing. ] (]) 06:47, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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	Is it legal to debate actual issues (that articles are written about) on userpages? Because, if so, I would like to discuss the invisible pink unicorn.
	] 21:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
	:~close look~ ... are you ... a Pastafarian!? :o) ] 13:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

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	Kindly let me know. I am unaware that I cannot say that to DAB. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 05:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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	: that AB's talking abt '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 06:02, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::This was more or less a general comment to what I'm doing about Setusundram (I voted at petitiononline.com etc). It was a reply to Dab's quote. Look, I sometimes feel, I am been very strictly treated. I know AB could be right about it. But, I like to know your view too. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 06:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:::It appears to others like ]. That is, it appears like you are advocating a particular naming or name change. Does that make sense? ] 13:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
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	FYI I sent you an email yesterday... ] ] 17:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
	:I'm having some issues accessing my mail. I have contacted technical support and the problem has been acknowledged. When my access is restored, I will review it immediately. Thanks for the notice in case I hadn't checked my inbox though. :) Be well! ] 17:26, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
	::Hey did you ever get your email situation sorted out? ] ] 16:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
	:::I finally was able to review some mail today. However, other parties have withdrawn, so the case is closed. I am sorry I was not able to respond sooner or help the mediation further. ] 23:51, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::No problem. But I don't see where/when people pulled out--was this the result of a private discussion between you and one of the parties, or I am just somehow missing someone's statement of withdrawl? ] ] <small>—Preceding ] comment was added at 23:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:::::They withdrew privately. Sorry for any confusion. ] 00:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
	::::::OK cool. Got it. I thinking to myself, "Am I crazy? How did I miss this?" Now it makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. ] ] 00:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

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	That's great! I would love to see BlanaceRestored's enthusiam directed into some more productive content creation. If you are interested in catching up with BR's recent activities, you can take a look at the the RFCs he has started at ] and ]. You may need to read the previous sections on the talk page to catch up with the extensive prior discussions related to topic of the RFCs. I have been involved with these pages for some time; so let me know if I can be of any help in providing specific information about the subjects or the discussion history. Cheers. ] 04:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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	:Thank you very much. I hope to see some improvement in him. --] <strong><sup>]</sup></strong> 05:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::Thanks VS, I will surely try my best to follow the policies here, I assure you I am trying them too. I think it will be very great to have you as my mentor. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 06:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
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	I've started an RFC at Ganesha, '''I remember you suggesting me to do this'''. But, since I was new that time. I could not understand what did you mean by that. I can now understand the meaning of ], ]. I understand that one should not argue after we see that there is a dead lock over a topic. It is better to involve a third view. Let me know if I am going right. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 09:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	:Also, AB, keeps quoting old things that I got blocked when ever he has to go for a dispute resolution. I do not think that is wise. I am sure people will consider going with an alternate ID seeing such old history raised, and get blocked when found with Socket puppetry. I am sure every one who wants to edit longer here should have been blocked some time or the other. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 10:35, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	::And now because of that I'd to explain why I got blocked etc. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 10:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
	:::I've removed that frustrations of mine. I hope you have an answer for this

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	"I am an editor with about 4 months of wiki editing, I've got blocked trying to rectify these errors as I hardly understood editing, I hardly understand where to pickup my points from and where to explain all these from. All, I have is Google Books. I request, some senior editors to look in to these problems. I feel, some editors are trying their best to edit here, but are not aware of what's crossing ]. All, I know here is I've been hearing "Vakratundaya Dheemahi Tanno Danti Prachodayat", for all 11 days of Ganesh festival, and I've been today told here is that, What I am hearing is not true because I do not have a ] book to prove my points. Things are very difficult here. Also, what if tomorrow I do not find a WP:V book at google, will things here be the same? In-spite of knowing that the fact is something else?" <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:48, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:We must make sure facts are ] by other editors. Putting in things ''you'' know but that cannot be cited is ]. ] from ] helps us make sure that Misplaced Pages is verifiable and helps us to avoid original research. ] 15:24, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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	has himself mentioned about Ganesha's presence, in Ganesha Gayatri, and it's presence in Vedas, and AB has used this reference, in his reference list along with his statements. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 08:57, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
			# ] – ], He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "]". He is often reputed to have written "]" but probably did not. He had ].
	:I'm not sure what the problem is? It appears like that information is already presented in the article. Do you feel differently? ] 13:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
			# ] – was a ] ] of noble descent who in 1678 became ] to receive an ] from a university, and the first to receive a ] degree. In 1669, she translated the ''Colloquy of Christ'' by ] monk ] from Spanish into Italian.
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	I quickly realised that I didn't have time for that (or indeed, any other mediation) and thought I'd done everything I needed to do to remove my name from it. Obviously I haven't... Sorry ] 11:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
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	::What's after life? This is what I am trying to find. I've known a 100% non-believer (i know him for years) telling me his experience with a ghost. So, I have a rough idea that these are 99% true. He just said this to me, "Look buddy I saw it with my own eyes, I know no one will believe, but it has happen. One will only believe it only if they experience it, I've seen a person reducing his size to that of a toy, and then it grew to a big giant and after some time I saw a drunk man walking by". But, again I've never experienced these ever in my life. So, I do not believe in it's presence. This person whom I talk about will never fool around. But again I do/do-not believe him because it's 100% unnatural. But, again there were 2 of them to have experienced this incident and the other person did suffer a critical brain haemorrhage experiencing that incident. So, I need to believe that there's something after life. '''] '''<sup>]</sup> 04:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:Also, I am 100% positive that life is clearly contradicting the current laws of physics. There's a line between life and physics. I've had a big debate before in 2004 were no one among the best educated scientist could answer the following, ''"How am I a living-soul (Non-Physical entity) moving my body that's made of physical elements."'' Isn't that a clear voilation of the laws of physics?'''] '''<sup>]</sup> 04:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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	::Everyone started to explain right from "central nervous system" to everything that science till today has found. But, then no one knew what made the central nervous system trigger the events that a living being performs? This soul of ours trigger these events. But, how?'''] '''<sup>]</sup> 05:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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	You suggested that ] be merged into WP:N, which is not likely to happen; however, it does look like ] has a chance of being merged into BIO. Your opinion would be valuable in evaluating consensus. --] 22:40, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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	Vassyana, I am an editor of the ] page. Things are pretty confusing there, with edit wars and multiple reverts (the page is protected at the moment). I was reading the archives and noticed that you successfully worked with editors in the past to obtain consensus. Could you take a look? If you are too busy, could you recommend another mediator with experience in this kind of situations? Thank you for your attention. ] 06:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:Dear Vassyana, Looks like another editor had the good sense to contact you already. Until today, I had hopes of working things out on our own, but the situation is growing more contentious. Hope you have time. I could list the reasons why, but they might sound like sycophancy :-). Regards, --] 22:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
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	Vassayana - Your help is needed over at the FOF page, please familiarise yourself with the COI disputes and sock puppetry recently uncovered.
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	]. Maybe you want to weigh in on this. ] <small>]</small> 18:24, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:To be entirely blunt, I couldn't be interested less. Taking a look, it's hardly more than a retread summary of the past couple years of ]. Is it an issue I care about? Surely. However, that RfC is utterly useless, except as a convenient summary of the long-term dispute. Until the three main sides (those demanding complete rebuilding, those demanding a recall system and those claiming it is the least of evils/"ain't broke") can attempt to understand and compromise with the other parties, nothing is going to resolve the dispute. I would note however, that the RfC does indeed demonstrate a lack of consensus and full faith in the current system, which is highly problematic. ] 18:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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	: I am for supporting progressive improvements to the RfA process, but its seems as stated that It is an all or nothing proposition what is behind the RfC, and that is a pity. ] <small>]</small> 18:48, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:: I think many parties from both sides have an "all-or-nothing" approach, as expressed above. I believe such an atmosphere makes rational discussion and gradual changes both highly improbable. I also tend to think you have the right idea with progressive improvements. To me, the system is obviously "broken" even if it "works". A loud smokey car that shakes violently at 105kph will still get you from home to work and back. That doesn't mean it's not "broken". However, since it has some functionality, the best approach in a wiki is to fix it one chunk at a time. Cheers! ] 18:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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	Hi, I would just like to point out that a another admin has over turned your justified indef block of ] ] 01:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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	: There was no proof (or even evidence) that the user was engaged in anything in contravention of ], which requires a certain level of abusive sockpuppetry (I agree for the record that the two are clearly linked - that much has been established). The user has been blocked for some time as it stands, and the local admins are watching the articles in question closely and will definitely impose blocks if behaviour we have seen there already continues. You should also be aware that ExtraDry is himself a reincarnation of a user with an extensive block record and a bad history, is obsessed with Newington College, and has been calling "sock" at anyone who disagrees with him on that article since his second week editing on this account (i.e. since early June). This in itself is an abuse of the ] clause, as it has meant he has evaded blocks for disruption for quite some time, and I have explained the details . ] 18:40, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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	Dear Vassyana, I was so glad to see you show up on the Alice Bailey page! There are a few good sources but a lot of them are things that would never see the light of day in other wiki articles. Many good editors have been run off by the tendentious editing (with the stated purpose of showing Bailey in a negative light). I have faith in Wiki and hope that reason '''can''' prevail. Please stick around!
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	Rather than add a section, I'll just add my vote: yes, thanks so much for your opinion on Cumbey. I am of the opinion her work is useful a source that does nothing more than demonstrate that alternative (if bizarre) interpretations have been published (which I believe it does satisfy), using only enough material from it to establish Cumbey's apparently unique viewpoint. However, if you want to argue the source should be removed entirely, I certainly won't be fighting for it's inclusion.
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	In regards to the person you're arguing with, however, it has been my experience that this editor has an unceasing insistence on "getting the last word", that he virtually never responds ''to'' you, only ''at'' you, and that it is entirely futile to discuss anything with him. But, best of luck! lol (And Hi! Kwork, can't wait to read your reply below!) ] 23:56, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
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	:Wait a second here. If the two of you are going to characterize a particular person's behavior on the article in question, it would be appropriate to explain the entire history of the extremely contentious situation.
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	:Kwork is not the cause of the problems with that article, he is one element in a complex story. The story includes, for example, a post on a Yahoo message board asking Alice Bailey followers to come to Misplaced Pages to clean up the article and remove comments about her antisemitism.
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	:So let's play fair please. If you want to invite a new editor, an administrator with a lot of experience, great, please do.
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	:So, I suggest that you not try to ], and instead trust that Vassyana will be able to see personally what's happening. If there is disruptive editing, it will be apparent, but you don't need to try and get a jab in in advance about one person, who has a somewhat gruff personality but, as a matter of actual fact, has been helping the article not degrade into a Bailey-praising POV memorial which is what would happen if he and one or two others would stop editing.
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	:I am not accusing either of you of POV-pushing on the article, I am speaking in general, so please don't take those comments personally. But I am addressing what appears to be an unfair advance characterization of one editor who may have some flaws but who, from what I've seen, has the best interests of an accurate article at heart.
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Treeware. noun. /'triwɛər/.
An antediluvian method of publishing information on a portable medium created from processed arboreal macerate, often with decorative covers glossed by petrochemical solids.

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Louis XIV of France – a monarch of the House of Bourbon who reigned as King of France. He did say, "Every time I appoint someone to a vacant position, I make a hundred unhappy and one ungrateful."
Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
Henry VIII of England – King of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
Martin Luther King Jr. –" There are three urgent and indeed great problems that we face not only in the United States of America but all over the world today. That is the problem of racism, the problem of poverty and the problem of war."
Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.

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Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral, Cork, Ireland

Saint Fin Barre's Cathedral is a Gothic Revival three-spire cathedral in the city of Cork, Ireland. It belongs to the Church of Ireland and was completed in 1879. The cathedral is located on the south side of the River Lee, on ground that has been a place of worship since the 7th century, and is dedicated to Finbarr of Cork, patron saint of the city. It was once in the Diocese of Cork; it is now one of the three cathedrals in the Church of Ireland Diocese of Cork, Cloyne and Ross, in the ecclesiastical province of Dublin. Christian use of the site dates back to a 7th-century AD monastery, which according to legend was founded by Finbarr of Cork. The entrances contain the figures of over a dozen biblical figures, capped by a tympanum showing a Resurrection scene. (more...)

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Henry VIII of England – King of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
Elena Cornaro Piscopia – was a Venetian philosopher of noble descent who in 1678 became one of the first women to receive an academic degree from a university, and the first to receive a Doctor of Philosophy degree. In 1669, she translated the Colloquy of Christ by Carthusian monk Lanspergius from Spanish into Italian.
Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
Bob Dylan – American singer-songwriter, author, and visual artist. " Take care of all your memories. For you cannot relive them."
Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.

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Eric and Leslie Ludy were 21 and 16 respectively when they first met, English professors suggest that older singles are unlikely to gather hope from their story.

When God Writes Your Love Story: The Ultimate Approach to Guy/Girl Relationships is a 1999 book by Eric and Leslie Ludy, an American married couple. After becoming a bestseller on the Christian book market, the book was republished in 2004 and then revised and expanded in 2009. It tells the story of the authors' first meeting, courtship, and marriage. The authors advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the spouse that God has planned for them.

The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals. (more...)

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Be kindly affectionate to one another with brotherly love, in honor giving preference to one another.

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