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			= January 21 =
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			Reference number 191 is in red - I have got it all wrong and I get confused. Please repair the damage. I am sorry ] (]) 06:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			:{{u\|Srbernadette}} Fixed, you had written the year in the access date as "20025". Respectfully, you make this specific error quite often; you probably just hit the zero twice by accident. When this happens the red message says "check date values in accces-date", to identify where exactly the issue is. ] (]) 07:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:On the phenomenon of the frequent occurrence of specific kinds of error, {{U\|Srbernadette}}: On 12 October, {{U\|Tenryuu}} ] to you that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." If you didn't implement that then, perhaps you could implement it now. -- ] (]) 11:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
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			== Whitespace on top of page ==
	= November 7 =

			The page ] displays a line of whitespace on top of the article. Why is that there, and how can it be removed? ] (]) 08:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Editing a headline ==

			:Fixed.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	It was brought to my attention today that the article on me, Gay Hendricks, has a headline that says "Homosexual Hendricks". While my first name is Gay, I'm quite heterosexual and do not want to give hope to your homosexual readership or dash the hopes of your heterosexual ones. Needless to say, this headline also concerns my wife of 26 years.
	How do I/you fix the headline?
	Thanks,
	Gay Hendricks <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:A vandal moved it 4 days ago. I have moved it back to Gay Hendricks. ] 00:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			== phone keyboard constantly recentering the screen ==
	== Duplicating Information Already Available on Another Website ==

			I am trying to edit pages on my Samsung S22 but opening the keyboard will forcefully recenter the screen every couple seconds, making it impossible to see what I'm typing. Sometimes it closes the keyboard entirely.
	A few days ago I was editing the Misplaced Pages article on "PFIQ", tuning it up by reference to my collection of that publication.

	I have since discovered that there is a webpage by the former proprietor of PFIQ, Jim Ward, at

			This problem persists even if I use the "desktop site" option in mobile. I'm using Firefox.
	http://www.bmezine.com/news/jimward/20041024.html

			Any solutions? ] (]) 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	which covers the same ground, but has the great advantage of coming from the horse's mouth, as well as being more precise on certain details.

			:Not had this issue on my A15 (Chrome). Odd. Could you switch to ]? ''']]''' 14:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	It seems to me that there is no point putting information on the Misplaced Pages that can be easily accessed via a link to an external site. However, I cannot find any clear statment one way or the other on this point.
			:I have the same problem with Firefox while using other websites. I think it's Firefox's issue. ] (]) 15:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
			:@], Using Chrome on Android and been through that, but now i am the boss (''feeling so''). Basically i avoid that by going top again. Ok, simply whenever i enter something, that text hide itself and next line appear at top most screen, at that moment i just scroll to top of the screen (''top of the section'') and then again scroll to that particular line, and guess what - no issue. try once.––]<sup>(])(])</sup> 17:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Category history ==
	Is there a standing policy on such situations? Should I cut the[REDACTED] article on PFIQ down so it complements the webpage urled above, or should I leave the redundant information in place.

			If you add a category to your watchlist, it notifies you when pages are added to or removed from that category. The category history (View History tab) does not show this information, however, as it only includes changes to the category page itself. How would I see the history of additions/removals for any category (regardless of whether it is on my watchlist)? Is it available? If a category suddenly got bigger or smaller, it would be useful to see which pages had been added or removed. --] (]) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	It seems clear that either way, the addition of an external link is in order.
			: ] is useful for this. ] ] 17:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Image ==
	Note that the information on the existing[REDACTED] page is original, not copied from the other webpage, even though it is essentially the same.

			While visiting the page ], I noticed this image: . The source says "Facebook" but the link is not accessible: . The image caption states: "Teaser poster of This Must Be the Place"; but a reverse Google Image brings up Pinterest Paper Cuts of similar sayings: . I'm not sure how to put up an image for deletion; but I think this is not what it purports to be. ] (]) 23:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
	PS: It's me again. There's another specific case with that presents the same type of problem. I subscribe to the Pacific Bulb Society mailing list; the PBS also operates a wiki devoted to bulbs. Generally speaking, the PBS wiki is exhaustive, so for most Misplaced Pages articles on cultivated bulbous plants, hardly anything more is needed than a link to the PBS wiki. I guess the issue is that (to my mind at least) the Misplaced Pages shouldn't waste time & resources duplicating information readily accessible elsewhere, but what's the actual policy (if there is one!)?

			:Is there another, more stable source (there are usually those that hold images of film posters)? Generally, this would go to ] or ]. But preferably look for one that is ]. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 23:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

			::OK. Thanks. Taking it to ]. This is not a poster for the film ("early" or otherwise). Obviously this was a hoax of some sorts. ] (]) 00:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	<small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Actually, according to ], Misplaced Pages consists ''precisely'' of (and only of) information that has already been published elsewhere in reliable sources. Misplaced Pages does not (should not) contain ]. Everything in an encyclopedia should merely summarize and restate what is already available elsewhere. The point of an encyclopedia is to have information available on a wide range of topics in a ], not to provide new findings, or information available nowhere else. Thus if a Misplaced Pages article appears to be a restatement of information you find elsewhere, that's exactly what we want. (I like the standard format of Misplaced Pages articles; almost every time I look up a topic that is unfamiliar to me, I find the Misplaced Pages article to be a better introduction than I can easily find from a general search of the Web. Many Web pages that are about some subject tend to pick up mid-conversation, as if the reader already knows what is going on, whereas most Misplaced Pages articles start off with a coherent ] that lets the reader grasp the basics of the subject quickly.) For the question about external links, see ]. Also have a look at the ] which has links to policy and guideline pages covering almost every conceivable issue that comes up in the building of our encyclopedia. On the issue of duplicating everything on a specialized ]: we probably wouldn't do that, because Misplaced Pages requires topics to be ], whereas a specialized wiki would probably tend toward comprehensiveness within its topic area. So, for example, a wiki specializing in music might cover a wider range of musical topics (such as very obscure musicians) than Misplaced Pages would. --] 06:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			This was ''much'' harder than I expected. WP does ''not'' make it easy to simply place an image up for requested deletion! Yeesh! I placed the required template on the image page here: , but from there on it's just a big mess. As instructed: and then listed: ; but it does not seem to be correct. I have successfully placed several articles up for AfD but this one threw me. What did I do wrong? TIA. ] (]) 00:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Fair Use Rationale ==
			:{{ping\|Maineartists}} The file is uploaded at the English Misplaced Pages (because it's non-free) and not Commons so a deletion discussion should be here and not at Commons. ] (]) 00:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::Maineartists, I suggest that you reverse your edits so far and follow the process at ]. ] (]) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Already done. I was only following the advice / directions given above. Guess I should have gone to FfD first. Thank you, ] for linking the process. I had no idea what "so a deletion discussion should be here" meant. Heading there now. This was a first for me. Now I know. ] (]) 01:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::{{ping\|Maineartists}} it's confusing if you are not a copyright expert (neither am I). You are more likely to get specialist advice at ]. ] (]) 01:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Thanks. This one had nothing to do with copyright. The image was not what it purported it to be: . The uploader has a history of uploading questionable images to WP with numerous deletions and violations in their history; without any response on their Talk Page to notifications. The image in question has been removed from the article and successfully placed for FfD. Thanks again. ] (]) 01:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			::::::The nomination looks fine. Media Copyright Questions is {{tq\|a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions}} so I think this query would have been in scope. ] (]) 01:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	Can someone explain to me 10c of ]. I've uploaded several images with Fair Use Rationales, but each time I get a message about not having 10c. However, after reading it, I am unsure of what I need to actually do. -] 01:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:NFCC 10c in a nutshell is: "You must write separate fair use rationales for each article the image is used in". For example, if I use an image of the Ford Motor Co. logo in ] and ], then I would have to write two fair use rationales: one for Car and one for Ford Motor Co. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 01:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::But what is the point if they are basically the same rationale? Also, for this particular image, it is only being used in a single article. -] 03:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:The warnings you are getting are from ], which requires a very specific set of conditions in the fair-use rationale - basically, it has to appear in a section that includes a link to the article it's used in (this is, roughly speaking, so that you don't write the rationale for ] only to have the image removed from ] and added to ], where the rationale may be different). I think making the section header read "Fair Use in (link to article title)" will get BCB off your back, or, failing that, make the first line read "It is claimed that this image is fair use in (link to article title) because:". ] 06:00, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			= January 22 =
	== Misplaced Pages policy advice ==

			== Default alt text for image not appearing in article ==
	Do we have a policy regarding external links to sources of media of dubious copyright status? For example, in an article on a TV show which is not available to buy on DVD, can editors provide a link to a bit torrent containing an illegal copy? ] 03:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Quoting from ]: "Sites that violate the copyrights of others per contributors' rights and obligations should not be linked. Linking to websites that display copyrighted works is acceptable as long as the website has licensed the work. Knowingly directing others to a site that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement."--] 03:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::I thought that would be the case. So I would be in the right by removing just such a link that someone has added :-) ] 03:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			As you can see I added alt text to the structured data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg
	== help please ==

			But when I use
	hello, I was in the process of making an article about a minor league baseball player. What happened was when i was going to save it, it was deleted for "not having importance". Number 7 of why articles would deleted. I had no problems last time making an article about a minor league player. Thank you to whom ever responds <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/easy-checks/image-alt/
	:The administrator who deleted it was ]. Go to ] and explain why you think the player meets ]. The problem is, you didn't include any sources to establish notability, and minor leaguers are usually not fully professional; they tend to have another job to support themselves financially. But you can try and find sources to back up your belief that he is notable. ] ]/] 03:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			to check
			::https://en.wikipedia.org/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification
			I cannot see it.

			This is the first time I tried to use default alt text so perhaps I have missed something? ] (]) 06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	== reflist? How to add a reference. ==
			:I don't think you can add alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons). Alt text is used in '''an article''' when you add the image. Otherwise all the different Wikipedias would be stuck with the same wording and language for the alt text. ] (]) 07:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::See ] ] (]) 07:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Also see ]. -- ] (]) 07:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::@] Thanks for those links but I am still confused. I already have added English alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons) - that is not a problem and as it is labelled as "English" I presume other language Wikipedias will not use it but could also add text in their own languages. You can see it on the image link above by clicking "structured data" and scrolling to the bottom of the structured data. My problem is that the text is not appearing when I use the image on Misplaced Pages. ] (]) 14:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@]: The image used in ] is kept on this English wiki at ], '''not''' on Commons.
			:::Regardless of where it is kept, the image in the article will only have alt text if an {{code\|1=alt=}} has been included in its {{code\|file}} statement. For the article concerned, there is no {{code\|1=alt=}} parameter:
			:::{{code\|<nowiki>] can take out. There is some correlation with the ], such as a dip during the ].]]</nowiki>}}
			:::You need to add an {{code\|1=alt=}} parameter. You can refer to ] for an example.
			:::The above will apply regardless of where the image is kept.
			:::Note that the alt text should describe what the image is, not the graph's contents. So, for example, "{{xt\|A graph showing the levels of greenhouse gas emissions and absorptions in Turkey from 1990 to 2022.}}". If the data shown by the graphs in the article is important to the article's readers, then separate tables of the data ought to be included the article, as stipulated by ]. ] (]) 14:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::Thanks I understand how to set the alt text manually for each article. But the reason I would like this default is because I quite often use the same image in different articles so it would save me (and hopefully other people) cutting and pasting alt text.
			::::The default alt text I used was set up by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166094 which is now closed.
			::::Whereas the request for default alt text at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21906 is still open.
			::::But I don’t understand the difference. Can anyone explain in simple terms? ] (]) 16:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

			== i want to post my content in draft ==
	] 04:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Check out ]. Hope this helps! ]''']''' 05:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::To explain what that page says better, you can add <nowiki><ref> and </ref></nowiki> html tags. Between these tags, whatever you place will be put at the bottom when you click on the number in brackets. To create the list at the bottom, you can use the template {{tlx\|reflist}}. If you want to create a more standardized reference, you can use the ]. '''] ]''' 05:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I found that ] wasn't all that helpful so I wrote up my own short and easy ] of how to do it. ] 12:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			I am planning to edit my Misplaced Pages content based on the guidelines, but I am unsure how to move it to the draft space. ] (]) 07:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	== How to submit first article? ==
			:It can simply be moved to the draft space by any autoconfirmed user, which you are. See ], but if you mean your content in ], there's little point moving it to Draft. That draft has already been rejected by ], not just declined, and a rejected draft usually should not be resubmitted. See ] ] (]) 07:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:@] As you must know, since you Wikilinked it, there is an existing article at ]. If you have any content from your draft that is ] and relevant, you could add it to that article. Use your own words to paraphrase the sources you cite, not ]. ] (]) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Inter-language Links in Coding for the German and French Misplaced Pages Severs. ==
	Hi,

			I know how to write an inter-language link to produce a broken link in an English article to a page that does not exist on the English server, but does exist in a foreign language Misplaced Pages server:
	I am new to Misplaced Pages and would like to start writing my first article in my account. Does it mean that my work will mean to be 'submitted' or 'launched' on[REDACTED] after I click 'Save changes' for my first article? Or do I need to go somewhere else to submit it? Pls help. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			<br>
	:Hey, you're going to want to check out ]. Hope this helps! ]''']''' 05:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			<b>French:</b><nowiki>{{ill\|Conann\|lt=Conann\|fr\|Conann (film)}}</nowiki>, i.e. {{ill\|Conann\|lt=Conann\|fr\|Conann (film)}}
			<br>
			<b>German:</b><nowiki>{{ill\|Conann\|lt=Meeples' Choice Award\|de\|Meeples' Choice Award}}</nowiki>, i.e. {{ill\|Conann\|lt=Meeples' Choice Award\|de\|Meeples' Choice Award}}
			<br>
			However, I would like to know the reciprocal German and French coding to do the same thing, i.e. link to a Misplaced Pages article that does not exist on that respective language Misplaced Pages server, i.e. the French or German server, but does exist in the English server:
			<br>
			<b>French:</b> ?<br>
			<b>German:</b> ?
			<br>
			Does anyone know if such coding exists and whether there are help pages on the French and German server for this coding? ] (]) 08:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			:{{ping\|SMargan}} you can check the Wikidata item ]. ] exists, but no de equivalent. You could ask at ] whether they have anything similar. ] (]) 09:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	==Communicating with other users==
			::{{ping\|SMargan}} Each Misplaced Pages language makes its own policies. The German Misplaced Pages has decided to not allow such links in articles. See ]. ] (]) 10:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	How do I communicate with other Wikipedians without using their accounts and leaving a message on their talk pages. I did that once and I got in trouble for it!
			:::{{ping\|TSventon}} ] (]) Thanks for the clarification! You have been a great help. I found this coding on the German server <nowiki>{{#interlanguagelink:en\|Friedrich Schiller}}</nowiki>, however, it just seemed to produce no text at all. Now that you have told me that there is no comparative German coding, I will stop looking. ] (]) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	Nelsondog 7.11.07 <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 08:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			::::{{ping\|TSventon}} ] (]) Sorry to bother you again, but is there a Inter-language Link coding for the Spanish language server as well? ] (]) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::Hi, @]. The Wikidata item ] (which TSventon linked to) has an es-wiki link to ]. Whether or not it has the same functionality as {{tl\|ill}} I don't know. ] (]) 11:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::If you add <nowiki>{{#interlanguagelink:en\|Friedrich Schiller}}</nowiki> it is the same as <nowiki>]</nowiki> and changes the en link under In anderen Sprachen to en:Friedrich Schiller. If you were allowed to link the article you would add a colon <nowiki>]</nowiki>. ] (]) 12:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::{{ping\|TSventon}} ] (]) - Thanks once again for your assistance! You have been a great help! ] (]) 13:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Request for Guidance on Article Review ==
	:Hi! The main way to communicate with other users is through their talk pages or on the talk page of a specific article when you wish to discuss it. You shouldn't "get in trouble" for leaving a message on someone's talk page, but make sure you don't put the message on their user page by accident! If you would like to contact a user privately, you can go to their user or talk pages and click the "Email this user" link on the left column. However, this will only work if they have provided an email address to Misplaced Pages. --]] 11:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			Hello Team,
	::It could seem from the above post and that somebody else used the account of ] to leave a message for Nelsondog. It is '''not''' allowed for two people two ], and accounts can be permanently blocked for that. If you are not the "real" Nelsondog then you must either create your own account, or edit without logging in (or log out before editing if you have access to Nelsondog's already logged in computer). You can edit any users talk page, except a few which are ]. ] 14:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			I have been submitting the article for review for the past three days, but it is still showing as a draft, with no violations indicated on the talk page. Following Misplaced Pages guidelines, I disclosed that this is a paid contribution and added the following statement to my user page:
	==Belkin fax machine==
	what are the facts about belin's portable fax machine? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:26, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			''"This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by ZAPTA Technologies on behalf of Nasir Ali for their contributions to Misplaced Pages."''
	:This page is for questions related to Misplaced Pages. You may wish to try the ], which specialises in factual questions in future - make sure you provide details on what you are looking for. Misplaced Pages has an article on ]; although it is short, there are links to the company's website, which may provide the information you are looking for. --]] 11:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			I have published this article without any charges. Could you please advise on the next steps?
	== Lübeck Airport ==

			Best regards,
	I note that since my recent communication, the entry in respect of the above has been changed. However, it is still unsatisfactory insofar as the word "misleading" in relation to the use of the name "Hamburg". By comparison to Frankfurt Hahn which wiki state as 120km from Frankfurt, Lübeck is only 54km from Hamburg; one could therefore expect the article to be more positive about this aspect. I would also point out that London Stansted Airport is over 60km from Central London by road but there is no criticism of that distance in the relevant wiki entry. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 10:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	::What is your question?--] 11:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Misplaced Pages is a ], so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the '''{{MediaWiki:edit}}''' link at the top. ] in updating pages but please make your changes with ] to ] that ] the information added or changed. This place is not really suitable for commenting on specific factual changes to the content of one article. If you don't wish to change the information yourself, your best bet is to make specific suggestions on the article's ]. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out ], or use the ] to try out your editing skills. ].--] 12:51, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	*Someone should look up the earlier answer. I seem to remember someone explaining why the article was as it was and it sounded reasonable. - ] 13:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			Mohsin Ali (Taching1989) ] (]) 09:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Table ==

			:@] I have added the template which will allow you to submit the draft for review. Before you do, find a better source for citation #1. You use ], which is deprecated (see the link). Are you sure your draft shows how the company meets our ]? ] (]) 11:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	Can someone improve this table ] - By making the widths of the cells more consistent. I have looked at the help and am unable to sort it out. ]ʃ]ǁ]ɭ 13:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			::Thanks for guidance, should I remove Crunchbase link? ] (]) 11:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Hello, @]. Without looking at the draft, I would reply Yes, you should remove the Crunchbase link, and any information which is cited only to that link (unless you can find a better source for that information). ] (]) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::Yes, I removed it. I am looking for more guidance to publish my article. ] (]) 11:56, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			::I have removed the link and submitted it for review. Kindly check if everything is completed. ] (]) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages ==
	:I modified the table on your page, so all the columns are the same width. You can change the 20% to another number if you want one to be wider or whatever; just be sure that they add to 100. ] 13:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			Edição de uma imagem que eu criei para a[REDACTED] em português na[REDACTED] Inglesa

			Eu criei e editei na pagina Terno Pitagórico da Misplaced Pages de Lingua Portuguesa uma imagem geométrica de minha autoria para a compreensão da minha edição "Dedução das equações algebrica do trio pitagórico a partir da geometria". Eu preciso fazer upload desta imagem para a edição na pagina Pythagorean Triple da Wikipédia de língua Inglesa, e tentei de varias formas e não consegui, por esse motivo não consegui minha edição.
	::Thank you ]ʃ]ǁ]ɭ 13:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			Quando fiz o upload da imagem na edição em Português eu coloquei como imagem livre para uso.
			Aguardo uma orientação para eu poder fazer upload da imagem e conseguir a minha edição na Wikipédia Inglesa. ] (]) 11:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			Translation: Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages
	== hate speech ==

			I created and edited on the ] (Pythagorean Triad) page of the Portuguese Language Misplaced Pages a geometric image of my own for the understanding of my edition "Deduction of the algebraic equations of the Pythagorean trio from geometry". I need to upload this image for editing on the Pythagorean Triple page of the English Misplaced Pages, and I have tried in several ways and have not been able to, for this reason I have not been able to edit it. When I uploaded the image in the Portuguese edition I put it as a free image for use. I'm waiting for guidance so I can upload the image and get my edit on the English Misplaced Pages. (via Google translate) ] (]) 12:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	Recently, a post to Talk:Media Bias in the United States was removed on the grounds that it was "hate speech", which it was. On the other hand, while such a post clearly should have been removed from an article, I am less certain about removing it from a talk page. What is the Misplaced Pages policy about hate speech (in this case, an accusation that Jews control US media)? ] 13:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:] --] 13:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	I am not sure I understand your answer. Some editors consider hate on talk pages unacceptable or some editors consider removing hate from talk pages unacceptable? ] 14:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:That's why I gave you ] to further discussion. Briefly: some editors consider the deletion of such material from talk pages unacceptable, as verging on censorship. --] 14:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			:@] Please use English when posing a question here. The file you wish to use appears to be ], which is on Commons and can therefore be incorporated into articles on en:Misplaced Pages as explained at ]. However, I suspect that its use will be controversial, so you should probably discuss this on the article's Talk Page at ]. ] (]) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Cite error 3 ==
	When I tried to introduce a reference I received a red "cite error 3" message. Where can I find out what this means? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:See ]. If you still have problems then post the text here, or save the problem edit and post a link here, and somebody will fix it or say how to do it. ] 14:31, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

	== ~~Article~~ ==		==How unredict==
			few weeks i made draft of Aye Ishq-e-Junoon by added soruces and summit for review but CNMall41 rejected my draft twice and i keep and rediting add soruces for series which CNMall41 think i was one of socks, i was fifteen year veteran joined Misplaced Pages and when moved ] to main page, there was re-editing by someone and i had noticed my article was reviwed by bot and cnmail41 moved to rediect , i had grammar issues by --] (]) 12:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			:@] Your draft was examined by the experienced reviewer ], who noted that it used unreliable sources. It has been redirected to a related article. CNMall41 may wish to comment further. ] (]) 12:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
	How do I start a topic in Misplaced Pages?? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			::should i add relibale sources ? ] (]) 12:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::The edit summary at ] was {{tq\|NEWSORGINDIA and other unreliable sources. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion but will take to AfD should there be an objection}}. Basically, the opinion was that this was not a notable topic. You can either revert the redirection and add sources (but make sure they are reliable), or do nothing.
			:::Be aware if the sourcing still doesn't meet GNG it'll likely go through AfD. '''] <sup>(] • ])</sup>''' 13:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
			:To be clear, you DO have a conflict of interest, likely UPE and in the least are MEAT. Don't expect to be rewarded for such. --] (]) 18:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Deleting my contributions ==
	:
			How do I go about deleting all my contributions in wikipedia? ] (]) 18:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:@] You can ] the contributions you have made but they will not be deleted from the edit history of any article and may be restored by other editors. When you add any content to Misplaced Pages, you irrevocably license it CC BY SA 4.0, as it says when you publish/save any edit. ] (]) 18:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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			:Your contributions cannot be deleted, but if referring to vanishing, ] for how to properly do that. We’re sorry if there are any complications you’ve had here. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 18:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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	==~~Putting~~ a ~~new~~ article ~~into a category?~~==		== Creating an article ==

			Dear Misplaced Pages:
	How do you put a new article into a category so that when viewing a list of those category's articles it is in the list? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
			I'm the librarian for Waterford High School (CT). The Athletic Director put together a history of the athletics program from when the school opened in 1956 to the present day. I foolishly (bravely?) suggested I would make a Misplaced Pages page out of the information and link it to the school's page. And now, of course, I have no idea what I am doing. Is there a primer that could walk me through the process? Should I find a copy of Misplaced Pages for Dummies? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Matt Cadorette, Librarian, Waterford High School Waterford, CT ] (]) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			:Hello, @], and welcome to the Teahouse.
	:At the bottom of the article, add the line <nowiki>]</nowiki>. -- ]] 15:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			:In addition to the good advice given by 2601, {{User:ColinFine/PractiseFirst}} ] (]) 21:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

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			:Articles must also demonstrate the ] of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for ], ], ] and ] and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our ] strongly recommends against ''you'' creating the article.
			:If you still think an article is appropriate, see ]. You might also look at ] for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the ] so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An ] is also available to walk you through creating an article. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

			:It would have to be a ''really'' good sports program to merit a standalone article. At best, it belongs in ]. ] (]) 07:23, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
	I added some information about Tom Joyner (a white man who happens to work in radio) to the ] article. But I included a link in case anyone wants to write his article. I don't have the courage to attempt a biography because of all the requirements. And I have very little information on him. Every time I try to do a search, nearly everything that comes up is about the black morning host.

			= January 23 =
	I can't even find another name such as Thomas Aquinas Joyner or Tommy Lee Joyner. So I don't know how to identify him in a red link someone can use for writing an article. Right now there is a blue link to the morning host simply because I don't know what else to do. ] 16:36, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:If the Tom Joyner you wrote about isn't notable, you don't need to link to him. You seem to be indicating a feeling that he's not notable. If he is, then you can make a red link by making it a piped link to some kind of disambiguation (] or something like that). ] ]/] 16:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			== Category:Mass murderers ==
	I think in Raleigh, N. C., the white Tom Joyner would be considered notable. I could call him ]. Thanks.] 17:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:"Local notability" is not really a determining factor. I've appeared in local newspapers, but I wouldn't be able to pass that off as notability through multiple sources. You need multiple non-trivial reliable sources. If such sources can be produced, an article could probably be sustained. But it sounds like there isn't much to say outside of what you've added to the article, so there isn't a real problem. ] ]/] 17:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::If you appeared in multiple local newspapers you could claim "multiple independant reliable sources". The content of those articles would determine if the mention it is actually non-trivial. - ]\|] 19:19, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			I was going to post at ], but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The ] doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Adding Album Covers ==

			:{{ping \| User talk:Vice regent}} I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure. {{smiley\|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	Hi,
			::@] what is the best place to have this discussion? ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Hello, @]. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably ], I would have thought. ] (]) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::Thanks ''']''' <sub>(Please ] on reply)</sub> 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::no problem btw. {{smiley}} {{smiley\|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

			== what ==
	I am new to editing Misplaced Pages. Record labels hire me to handle the online marketing of their projects and I often obtain information that I would like to add to Misplaced Pages. For instance, I was given the official cover art for the new Wu-Tang Clan album 8 Diagrams yesterday and attempted to upload it to the 8 Diagrams Misplaced Pages page this morning. I am confused by a few things.

			What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? {{smiley\|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	1) I was unsure as to what/where to write the explanation of fair use.

			:@] Does ] answer your question? ]\|] 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	2) I had clicked the "Click Here to upload cover image" link, but I noticed that the image is not linked to the 8 Diagrams Misplaced Pages page.
			::{{u\|Gnu779}}, block evasion by any technique is not permitted. It is the human being who is blocked, and blocking their most recent IP address is just the enforcement mechanism. ] (]) 17:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Oh, so all their identities are blocked? {{smiley\|sad}} Gnu779 (]) 12:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Creating a talk page for ] ==
	The image page is here:
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Wu8DiagramsCover.jpg#filelinks

			Hey, y'all. I created the article ] a few months ago and I've been meaning to take it through PR. Can someone help me create a talk page and sort it under its appropriate WikiProjects so I can get this process started? I've brought several articles to PR before, but I've never had the issue of there not being a talk page! Thanks. ] (]) 17:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	The album page is here:
	http://en.wikipedia.org/8_Diagrams

			:Surprisingly easy: Have a look at ] for information on how to do so. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 17:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	--] 16:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
			::Hello, {{u\|2601AC47}}. Simply click on the red link ] and follow the instructions to create the tak page. ] (]) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::You meant ]? I didn't create that one. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> (]<big>·</big>]<big>·</big>]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 17:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Sorry for pinging the wrong editor. ] (]) 17:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			::Okay... I ''think'' I set it up correctly. Thanks for the assist! ] (]) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::Yes, you just created the page. ] (]) 17:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Amending existing edit request or making an additional one? ==
	:Hello Scullynj, for the first part of your question you could refer to ] to see whether your image is acceptable. It would be also worth noting that if the image isn't provided with fair use or an acceptabe form of licensing, or an orphan (not linked to any page) then it can be speedily deleted. (See:]). Thanks for coming here for advice. Regards, ] <sub>]</sub> 16:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			If I have a pending edit request on an extended-confirmed-protected page, and I have an additional edit to request, should I edit the talk page to add it to the existing edit request, or initiate a new edit request? ] (]) 20:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	:Scullynj's fair use rationale at ] looks correct, to me. ] 17:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	::I added in the rationale for you and added the image into the article. I think it would be good if you noted the source in the summary on the image page. ] 18:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			:If the new edit request is unrelated to the initial one I might make it a second request to avoid mixed responses (Yes to the first, No to the second). If it's related and nobody's responded to the initial request yet, I'd likely amend it. Hope this helps! ] (]) 21:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Problem of vandalism ==
			::If you do edit your initial request, you should probably note that somewhere to avoid confusion from anyone who may have read the initial request. <span style="background-color: black">] ] ]</span> 22:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::{{u\|Kenfree}}, from the pragmatic point of view, it is pretty clear to me, based on over 15 years of experience, that a simple, concise, well-referenced edit request has a far better chance of being implemented by a volunteer editor than an edit request that has been modified, expanded and now deals with several issues instead of one. Almost any interested volunteer prefers to deal with such requests in "bite sized chunks". ] (]) 06:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::thanks ] (]) 09:36, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

			== Issue With "Edits" Page Following A Limitation and Uninstallment of Misplaced Pages ==
	How rife is vandalism on Misplaced Pages? Is it going up or down? --] 19:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Check out ]. It gives you a brief summary of the amount of vandalism on Misplaced Pages, and is updated every few hours (as the situation warrants; sometimes the amount of vandalism doesn't change for a while) ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 20:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			Dear Misplaced Pages Support,
	== Two questions ==

			I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to seek assistance regarding an issue with my Misplaced Pages account, '''Brennan2013'''.
	Hi. First, I was wondering where I should go to see how I can get involved in fighting vandalism. Second, is there a section that shows me how to customize my userpage. Thanks.--] 19:20, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:] explains one of the most common vandalism-fighting techniques; ] explains about vandalfighting in more detail. As for userpage design, see ] and ]. --] 19:24, 7 November 2007 (]]])
	::Thanks.--] 19:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			The issue began after my edits to the articles ''Jonathan the Tortoise'' and other elderly tortoises were reverted by another user. Soon after, I noticed that my contributions page became restricted, displaying the message:
	== Bambi Bucket Copyright Issues ==

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	Please be advised that A-Flex, a new manufacturer of collapsible firefighting buckets, has made repeated attempts to post information on the Misplaced Pages page entitled "Bambi Bucket." The name Bambi Bucket is both trademarked and copyrighted and these buckets have been in use for more than 20 years in 80 countries.

			For context:
	Please note that Bambi Bucket is NOT a generic term. It is widely known since it is the leader in firefighting equipment but that does not make it a generic term and, as such, the name cannot be used in this manner.

			* I initially downloaded and installed the Misplaced Pages mobile app through the Google Play Store in late December 2024. Since then, I’ve primarily used my Android Onn. Tablet to read and edit articles on Misplaced Pages.
	Despite repeated removals of A-Flex's information and a warning letter that legal action is pending, someone continues to repost this information.

			* After encountering this restriction, I uninstalled the app in frustration.
	A good solution would be for Misplaced Pages to change the heading from "Bambi Bucket" to "Collapsible Firefighting Buckets." Then a separate page for each company could be created. Those who are looking for information on the Bambi Bucket can then access that page separately.

			* Today (Thursday, January 23, 2025), I reinstalled the app through the Google Play Store and logged into my account, only to find that the issue persists.
	Please advise of this action being taken.

			Editing Misplaced Pages has always been an enjoyable and educational experience for me. I strive to make meaningful contributions and was disappointed to see that my access to the contributions page and suggested edits remains restricted. I am unsure whether this limitation is still active due to the reverted edits or if uninstalling and reinstalling the app has affected my account.
	Nancy Argyle
	Technical Communications
	SEI Industries (Maker of the Bambi Bucket)
	1-604-946-3131 Ext. 123 <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

			Could you please provide more information about the current status of my account? Is the restriction temporary, or do additional steps need to be taken to restore full access?
	: I see. I think we might have to move the ] article to ], perhaps with a bit of rewriting. I'm not a lawyer, though, so I'm going to read up on ] a bit before I'll commit myself to doing all that. Does that sound reasonable to you? — ]<sup> ] ]</sup> 21:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			Either way, I will continue to enjoy reading and editing on Misplaced Pages, as it remains one of my favorite platforms. Thank you for the incredible resource that Misplaced Pages provides and for all the work you do to maintain it.
	: {{done}} I've moved the article and rewritten it to avoid using trademarks as a noun, as per ]. Does this seem better to you? — ]<sup> ] ]</sup> 21:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

			I greatly appreciate your time and support, and I look forward to your response.
	:: Yes. Your changes were reverted. I've restored them; if they get reverted again without evidence that we aren't violating trademark, ask for admin intervention. I am not a lawyer, but we have to err on the side of caution. Ms Argyle's claim appears valid, I see no reason to assume otherwise. Regards, ] 10:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:::I find it rather funny. Usually we're trying to '''prevent''' people from advertising their products on Misplaced Pages, and now we've got one that doesn't want their product name on here! -- ] 12:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::::IANAL but <s>]</s>] explains the issues. It seems like a reasonable request that we should treat seriously and the good work by Ksero and BenAveling seems to have done that. ] ] 15:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Search Article ==

	My article will only come up in a search if you type in the exact title of it. How do fix this? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 21:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:What is the title of the article? Also note that article titles are case sensitive. - ] 21:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:: Misplaced Pages's search software is not very good; and also takes a little while (perhaps a day?) to catch up with changes made to pages. --] (]) 23:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Irish Bands - "is" or "are"? ==

	Hi - I know we use "are" for british bands (e.g. Def Leppard are a british rock band) and "is" for USA bands (e.g. Bon Jovi is an american rock band) and whichever is used first for international bands (e.g. INXS is/are an austalian rock band). What is the guideline for irish bands? Are they considered "british" for this purpose? Do different criteria apply for Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland bands? ] 22:18, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
	:From ]:
	::*''An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation.''
	::*''If an article has evolved using predominantly one variety, the whole article should conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it on the basis of strong national ties to the topic.''
	:As you can see, there isn't really a specific answer, but you should probably use British English here. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 22:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

	= November 8 =

	== NO SUBJECT ==

	HOW DO I FIND TOPICS ON ''SOCIOLOGY'' FOR A SO-STUDIES FAIR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I NEED IT 4 A GRADE PLEASSSEEEEE TELL ME WAT 2 DO R WAT 2 SEARCH 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>>>>......... <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Whilst Wikipedians do not need do your homework, i am feeling generous. Have a look at ], ] and ]. Just type in sociology in the search bar to your left and click search. This will take you to search results. Oh, please dont use ALL CAPS as it is seen as shouting in typeface. Hope this helps. ] 00:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== can you plase halp me ==

	hi


	what is the ratio thank you
	how to pi <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:I'm not sure I understand your question. Can you please clarify? --] ] 01:08, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Me either but maybe ''']''' will help.--] 01:16, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Starting my own page ==

	I would like to start my own page on Misplaced Pages. I do not know how to do this, as I am not a frequent user. I looked around for a button for a bit but could not find one. Can anyone help me? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Hello! I realize Misplaced Pages might seem confusing at first, (please click on the blue words to read the policy/guide they refer to). Misplaced Pages is ] like other sites you may have come across. First, it is an ]. What this means, is that it is not MySpace, or FaceBook, or a place to host personal webspace, or a place where editors can make articles about anything they wish. Misplaced Pages has ], such as ], ], ], etc. What does all of this mean? Well, it means that any article on Misplaced Pages must demonstrate ] (meaning it must be note worthy, covered by the media, etc.), and have ] (such as news media articles, magazine/trade journal articles) written about the subject, and the information given in the article must ] those sources to ] it is true. From those sources, information is summarized, paraphrased, condensed, and worded neutrally to make an encyclopedic entry (information cannot be ] from other sites). See ], ], ], ], and ] for assistance. Once you've done all these things, if you'd still like assistance, you can submit your entry to ]. Cheers! <small>]]]</small> 01:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	==Question==
	Famous Puritan Quotes and annotations relating to <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I don't see a question and your sentence seems to have been cut off in the middle. In any event, you can take a look at our article: ] and if you'd like you can check whether has any quotes by searching some of the names there.--] 01:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Authors ==

	How do I get to know the authors of the various articles posted on Misplaced Pages. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:You can click on the history tab on any page. That is a log of every change in the page. The people who made those changes are linked next to each revision. You can talk to then on their talk page, or using the 'email this user' function if you are signed in. '''] ]''' 01:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Hello, and ]! There are millions of editors who work on this project, and as an open project, there are literally hundreds of thousands of editors who have created articles. All editors are equal, so if you're looking for help with a specific topic, it might be best to take a look through the ] to see what editors devote their time to which areas. Hope that helps! <small>]]]</small> 01:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:People who ask for authors are often interested in citing an article. If that is the case then see ]. ] 02:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Editing ar article ==

	My article "Radial Tonebone" was marked for speedy deletion and was thought to be a blatant advertisment. I wish to edit the articl but I am unsure of how I do this.


	] 02:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC).

	:Click ], and go to the edit tab of the page, and edit the page. Do not remove the speedy deletion tag though. ](] , ]) 02:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== "Clincl Fraid ==

	I was shocked to say the least when I received the message "Click
	Fraud" as I was searching through various realotors in search of a particular housing need. I apologize for evidently clicking on your site too many times! Needless to say, I will not do so in the future.
	Perhaps there was a warning beforethis "Click Fraud" page appeared.
	If so, I missed seeing it and would have stopped immediately. If there is not such, I suggest you advise people before we continue too far. I, for one, am not totally compute illiterate, but, I doubt I am the only one that felt a little insulted when this page appeared. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:''Say wha...?'' ? Anybody understand what's going on here? --] 03:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::It looks like this user might have gotten here from another site, and wound up at ]. ] 03:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Please add link from my site. ==

	Please add link from my site to the Reference sections of[REDACTED] contents wherever applicable.

	bcdalai
	Site:
	http://bcdalai.blogspot.com/
	<address removed for privacy reasons> <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I'm sorry, Misplaced Pages doesn't do link swapping, and you would need to prove that your site meets our needs, and, being a blogspot site, it would be pretty hard to prove that. ] 03:49, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Governance in[REDACTED] ==

	I am a professor of management. I am working on a research project on the emergence of govenance in an open community such as wikipedia. what kind of information is available on this?

	ram04:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)]--] 04:11, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:I would suggest starting with the ]. --] 04:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::To this I would add ] under "Administrators" which gives nearly (if not all) pages related to the various responsibilities, and information regarding administrators, and also this link: ]. <small>]]]</small> 04:27, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Trying to flag for neutrality concerns ==

	I just ran across an article with questionable neutrality. I want to flag it, but can't find info on how to do that. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:You're looking for the ], and specifically, {{tl\|pov}}. If it's blatantly advertising, you could mark it for deletion with {{tl\|db-ad}}. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 04:30, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== ABOUT HYDROXIDE ==

	OH is a hydroxide group.But why can't we write as HO group <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 06:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:The Help desk is for questions about Misplaced Pages itself. It's not clear, but it sounds more like you have a science question, which would be better asked ]. -- ] 12:15, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::You might find the answer in ]. --] 18:32, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Can't log in ==

	Hi,

	I have a user name of Dieselfumes and today when I opened my computer I wasn't logged in. Well its been such a long time since I have had to log in that I forgot my password. When I tried to email for it the system did not recognise my username. What should I do? Should I sign up again? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:The only way to retrieve a lost password is via the email address you gave when you signed up, but you appear not to have given an address. It's probably best to create a new username, stating on your userpage that you used to be ] but lost your password. You might want to give an email address this time so that you can retrieve your password if you lose it; the email address is kept secret, and the only other thing it does is allow users to use ] to email you without discovering your email (and you can opt out of that in ] if you don't want to be contactable by email). --] 09:48, 8 November 2007 (]]])

	== Adding media files to a page ==

	I have noticed that some sites have song previews on them. How do I add such a song preview to a page so that readers can listen to them?

	Thanks,
	] 11:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:First, you need to make sure that you're fine as far as the copyright situation on the song preview goes. In most cases, you won't be able to get a song preview under a free-use license (see ] for a description of what licenses are allowed), so you won't be able to upload a song preview. If you do find a freely-licensed preview, convert it into ] format, and upload it via ]; then see ] for instructions on adding it to an article. Hope that helps! --] 11:19, 8 November 2007 (]]])

	== Is this page infected? ==
	{{resolved}}
	Trying to add a comment to the following discussion page:

	http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Dubbo%2C_New_South_Wales&action=edit

	It won't let me save, and gives a message that an illegal hyperlink has been detected. I am able to edit any other page (have just done test edits on a few that I contribute to on a regular basis) , but not this one and wonder what the problem is - can Misplaced Pages test this for me? I notice that there have been no edits on the discussion page since July this year which seems strange. --] 11:42, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:It doesn't appear that the page is protected, nor does it seem to have been in the past. ] has edited it in the last five minutes, so that doesn't seem to be a problem. What was the website you were trying to link to? It could be on the ]. --]] 12:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:''edit conflict'' Problem solved. What's happening is that the page included a link to a website that has since been added to Misplaced Pages's ] ]. Normally, that's meant to prevent people from ''adding'' a spam URL to a page, but if the URL was added ''before'' that address was put on the blacklist, it stays there. The next time someone tries to edit & save the page, it warns you that a blacklisted link is on the page and tells you (at the bottom) what the URL is. You can just go back, delete the link and then save. Take a look at my edit to see what I did. Hope that helps! -- ] 12:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::Thanks for explaining Kesh - I didn't know the spam blacklist worked like that. Learn something new every day... -- ]] 16:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Does Misplaced Pages earned any awards? ==

	Does Misplaced Pages earned any awards? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:05, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:Yes. You can read about it in ]. --] 14:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Edit/Revise/Modify/Update a Page ==

	I was given permission to re-do the[REDACTED] page on Herbert H. Clark. How do I go about editing/revising/modifying/updating this page?

	Tawana Spellen <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:Go to the page and click the "Edit" tab at the top of the page. Please note that everyone has permission to re-do the page, not just you. -- ]] 14:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:First of all, you don't need permission from anyone to edit a page--Misplaced Pages is the 💕 that anyone can edit. Second, you might want to look at ] for some basic information about how to edit. --] 14:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::As Sopoforic said, you don't need permission. Who gave you "permission"? If it was the subject of the article, then please make sure you don't violate Misplaced Pages's ] guideline. ] 18:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Page move to current redirect ==

	While patroling new pages, I came across ]. Google returned far more hits for "fandub", so that seems the more logical title for it. However, ] is a current redirect to ]. What's the best idea here? Thanks. ] 15:31, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:This type of move requires a temporary deletion of the desired location (in this case ]) so that the history of the current location (]) isn't lost in the process. You can make such a request at ]. I would propose it on the talk page first though. Also consider asking at ], since it seems there have been several attempts to write about this subject, including an ] article that became a redirect to ]. ] ]/] 15:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I just found the deletion log for ] as I could imagine something of the sort happened, but there wasnt one. Thanks for ] I didn't come across that one yet. Best to make a post on the talk page of ] and ] both? ] 15:41, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::That's probably a good idea, but you could also leave a note for the creator of ] to go to ], since the article is new and likely won't have many people watching it. ] ]/] 15:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I'll do it that way then. ] 15:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Addition to "Melatonin" ==

	When I try to add a few lines including references I get the message site error 3. Here is what I'm trying to add.] 16:18, 8 November 2007 (UTC) Rhansler

	Since it is principally blue light that suppresses melatonin, <ref name= “Brainard 2001”> {{cite journal
	\| author =Brainard GC, Hanifin JP, Greeson JM, Byrne B, Glickman G, Gerner E, Rollag
	\| title = Action spectrum for melatonin regulation in humans: evidence for a novel circadian photoreceptor.
	\| journal = J Neurosci.
	\| volume =15;21
	\| issue =16
	\| pages =6405-12
	\| date =Aug 15,2001
	\| id = PMID: 11487664
	}}</ref> wearing glasses that block blue light <ref name=Kayumov 2005> {{cite journal
	\| author =Kayumov L, Casper RF, Hawa RJ, Perelman B Chung SA, Sokalsky S, Shipiro
	\| title = Blocking low-wavelength light prevents nocturnal melatonin suppression with no adverse effect on performance during simulated shift work.
	\| journal = J Clin Endocrinol Metab.
	\| volume =90
	\| issue =5
	\| pages =2755-61
	\| date = May 2005
	\| id = PMID: 15713707
	}}</ref> in the hours before bedtime.
	:The refname format can only have one word and a set number of characters. Put it in inverted commas like this :<nowiki><ref name="Kayumov 2005"/></nowiki> and you get around the problem. e.g. wearing glasses that block blue light <ref name="Kayumov 2005"> {{cite journal
	\| author =Kayumov L, Casper RF, Hawa RJ, Perelman B Chung SA, Sokalsky S, Shipiro
	\| title = Blocking low-wavelength light prevents nocturnal melatonin suppression with no adverse effect on performance during simulated shift work.
	\| journal = J Clin Endocrinol Metab.
	\| volume =90
	\| issue =5
	\| pages =2755-61
	\| date = May 2005
	\| id = PMID: 15713707
	}}</ref> in the hours before bedtime.
	:;References
	{{reflist}}

	== Reliable source? ==

	Is a reliable source for the ] article? I say it isn't since it's a near exact copy of the material here. Another editor feels that it is and is using the supposed real name from that site in the article. <span style="font-family:monospace;">]</span>\|] 16:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Nope it is a mirror from about this . It should not be used as a source, you are correct. You might consider listing it at ]. ] 17:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Thank you! <span style="font-family:monospace;">]</span>\|] 18:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== confirm / authenticate e-mail address ==

	Looking at my Preferences page, I find that my e-mail address is not confirmed. It looks correct, but when
	I try to confirm, the message appears saying that I have already been sent a confirmation e-mail.

	After several tries, I have not yet received such an
	e-mail.

	What should I do next?

	] 16:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:First, check to make sure the email address you supplied in your preferences is spelled correctly. Next, check your email's junk mail folder; it's possible it could get filtered. ] ]/] 16:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== computer fraud ==

	your page told me alot except where to report it to? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:You mean, where should you report ]s? The reason this isn't explained in the aricle is because Misplaced Pages cannot give legal advice, and the answer would change drastically depending on where you live. You'll need to contact local authorities. ] ]/] 16:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Linking album covers ==

	Thanks to everyone who answered my question yesterday about fair use of album covers. It would be a big help to me if someone could explain how to link an album cover to an article about an album. Believe me I'm trying, but I can't seem to figure it out. Someone has placed the incorrect album cover in the Wu-Tang Clan article that I was asking about yesterday.

	This is the article:
	http://en.wikipedia.org/8_Diagrams

	This is the correct image that I uploaded yesterday:
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Wu8DiagramsCover.jpg

	Could someone explain to me how to put the correct album cover in that article? Thanks again!--] 16:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:If you click on the edit tab at the top of the ] article, you'll see something that safe <nowiki>{{Infobox Album</nowiki>, then a lot of lines like <nowiki>\| something = something</nowiki>. There's one that says <nowiki>"\| Cover = 8 Diagrams.gif"</nowiki>. To use the image you uploaded, change this to <nowiki>"\| Cover = Wu8DiagramsCover.jpg"</nowiki>. Hope this helps! ] ] 16:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::I added the image for you. The user above explained how. You can see what I changed . ---]<sup>]</sup><sup>]</sup> 16:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Excellent! That explained more than you know! Thanks!--] 16:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Inserting a contents table into an article ==

	How do you insert a contents table into an article? --] 16:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:The software automatically creates the table from the section headings (the ones set off with paired sets of double, triple, etc., equals signs). --] 16:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::You can force a TOC to appear with the ] <nowiki>__FORCETOC__</nowiki> or make one appear somewhere other than above the first section with <nowiki>__TOC__</nowiki> (can't be used multiple times). Note that the automatic generation of a TOC Orange Mike referred to can be overruled in a user's preferences by unchecking the appropriate box in the Miscellaneous section. If the box is checked, a TOC will automatically appear on articles with more than 3 section headers. ] ]/] 16:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Editing the beginning of an article? ==

	Lately i've been adding some information about the Nissan Laurel but i cannot edit the top part of the article. Any reason why?
	http://en.wikipedia.org/Nissan_Laurel

	Petter... <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:Click on the "edit this page" tab on the very top-center of the page. ---]<sup>]</sup><sup>]</sup> 17:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::You can also access section editing for the top of the article by copying the ] of any section editing button in an article and when you paste into your computer's browser, change the number at the end to ''section=0''.--] 17:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::You might also install ], a very helpful wiki user script. Just go to ], hit the "Edit this page" tab and paste the script into the edit box, then save. Bypass your browser cache and it's all done. :) You'll be able to edit the top section of any article without loading the entire lengthy page. All the best, ] 18:14, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::Thanks for that! I used to have a similar script that stopped working one day. After that I couldn't find another script that didn't include a lot of instructions that only a javascript genius would understand. <span style="font-family:monospace;">]</span>\|] 18:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== yikes! ==

	i didnt realize my entertainment question got posted and included a personal enlink and email - ho can those be removed asap??? i still have the question! new to wiki...sorry! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:I've blanked the email address, so it's no longer visible to casual readers, but it is still in the edit history. Only an admin can actually delete the edit so no one can see it in the history; I assume one will be along soon to help you out, if not I'll go looking for one in a few minutes. --] (]) 18:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Actually, removal of an edit from the history ''cannot'' be done by an administrator - it requires a special tool known as "]" which is only used in very specific and extreme circumstances, as removal of edits from the history is technically against the terms of the ]. You can go to ] to request the application of this tool, but be aware your request may not be granted. Since it involves personal information, it probably will, but I'm just warning you. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 18:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::)clarify) But an admin could delete the edit so ''only other admins'' could see it, right? I'm just assuming this would be good enough for 75.80's purposes, although I'm probably putting words in their mouth. Of course, another editor and I have commented in that section now, probably making things much more complicated for any admin that wants to try to clean up... --] (]) 19:00, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::Oversight would be required, because deletion of that 1 revision would require the painstaking restoration of every other revision ''but'' the one that needs to be removed. I think blanking is acceptable. ] ]/] 19:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::::Barneca: Admins can delete entire pages, which clears the whole history, but they don't have the ability to selectively delete revisions. We'd have to lose the whole Help Desk and start it over again if an admin did this. Oversight users are able to target specific revisions, but as stated, they then have to restore every subsequent revision that did not contain the offending info, making things very difficult and possibly screwing things up anyway. Once an edit has been removed in that manner, yes, it is only visible to other Oversights (not admins, unless they happen to additionally hold an oversight flag). You might want to check out ] for more info. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 00:01, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::::::True, admins can only delete entire pages, but they can select which revisions they want to restore. Potentially an admin could restore all versions except a single problem edit. This is of course doing it the long way around, Oversight does not require deleting the entire page first, but it is only used in very specific and important cases. ] 07:56, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::::::Thanks Raven4x4x, that explains it, and the world makes sense again. I've ''seen'' admins <s>delete a single revision</s> restore everything except a single revison before, I just didn't know the mechanism they used to do it. So the problem here is, the history of this page is so long, it would be a significant pain to restore all but one revision. Thanks all, I learned something new today. --] (]) 13:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== NPOV: ] ==

	I added a NPOV tag on the page, but this page is a mess of outrageous claims and unsourced material. The 'artist' (I use that term loosely) appears notable, but this page is incredibly biased. What can be done other then adding a tag that will presumably be ignored by frequent editors of the article? --] 19:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Remove unsourced claims after a reasonable amount of time - forcing a discussion on the page's discussion page. -- ]] 19:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::But it's all unsourced (other then his name). Do I just remove paragraphs? --] 19:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:::Since you just added the tag today, I'd give it some time. <s>Start a discussion on the talk page (if you havent already)</s> You've already started a talk page discussion and if that doesn't help, delete the unsourced info (the whole paragraph '''if necessary'''). But again, wait a while. - ] 21:29, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Contradictory problems while creating an account ==

	I tried to create a Misplaced Pages account, and chose a username for it. It told me that the username was already in use.

	I wondered if perhaps I had already created an account with the same username. To find out, I asked it to email me my password. The response was that the username was not in use.

	So which is it? Is the username in use or not? How do I find out? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:We can't do anything unless you provide the username you tried to sign up with. Alternatively, you can go to ], click "User creation log" in the drop-down, and type the username in the User: box then click Go to find out for yourself. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 23:25, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
	:: Alternatively, search ] for your username. ] <small>]</small> 23:37, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== an image is uploaded - how do i get it displayed on wikipedia? ==

	i have taken the photo.
	the photo is of my own art work.
	i give it freely to everyone to do what they want to it/with it.

	i thought i had clicked on the correct license template, i have waded through pages of copyright law and still no success. Please help. The faq are equally baffiling. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 23:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	: If the photo is entirely yours, you will need to release it under a free license such as GNU, GFDL or Creative Commons. Go to upload file, then click it is from somewhere else. In the license drop down select your chosen license in the own work part. ] <small>]</small> 23:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	::The image you uploaded has no licence, If it is entirely your own work this licence would be a suitable one:
	]
	::<nowiki>{{GFDL-self}}</nowiki>

	::To display the image you uploaded on a page use the following code:

	::<nowiki>]
	</nowiki>

	::This produces the image to the right --->
	::If you wish to change the image size change the "px" value
	::If you wish to change the caption alter the "your text here" bit
	::If you wish to change where the Image is you can replace "right" with left or center.

	::]ʃ]ǁ]ɭ 23:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

	== "Misplaced Pages" Without the Images ==

	Hello. Is there any website that changes word for word according to Misplaced Pages and as Misplaced Pages is edited, just without images? Thanks in advance. --] 00:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:I don't know of one, and I doubt one exists since the mirror sites take their information from the database dumps. If you want to browse[REDACTED] without images and you use firefox, you can right click an image and select 'block images from upload.wikimedia.org' from the context menu. This will prevent firefox from loading images. If you use some other browser, I cannot help you. --] 00:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	= November 9 =

	== Line breaks when editing ==


	I encountered unpredictable line breaks when creating a list of external links. Sometimes the links would run together in the same line; other times theey would appear on a new line.

	How to control this?

	] 01:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:We usually format external links as lists. See ] for information on how those work, and be sure you're following the guidelines on ]. --] 01:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Number 1 card player in the world just passed away (Paul Soloway) ==

	''Text of copyright violation removed'' <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:Please do not post copyrighted material on Misplaced Pages. The Help Desk is for asking questions anyway - if you would like an article created about this person, you may make a request ] or write one ''in your own words'' ]. Please remember, however, that ] and the subject must be ]. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 01:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::The subject is notable. I copied the request to WP:AFC and might actually write an article myself but I hope a better writer does it. ] 22:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== How to remove my IP address? ==


	Yikes, I did an edit and did not notice I wasn't signed in. (I thought signing in was global across Misplaced Pages.) So my IP address is now on the History page for that topic.

	If I delete the edit, will the entire record on the History page also be deleted?

	] 02:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	<small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:The edit will remain in the history unless deleted by an admin. --] 02:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	*Admins can only delete entire articles and restore selected revisions. Quite an undertaking if you're talking about a large article history. People with Oversight priviliges can directly delete a revision under certain circumstances. Usually, though this isn't enough reason to remove the edit. Unless you tell us what the edit is, no one will be able to link it to your username and there's no point in keeping your IP secret, because your computer shares it with about every website you visit. - ] 08:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== How do I post a picture to an article? ==

	How do I post a picture to an article? I'd like to post two photos with captions.
	] 03:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC).
	:Type <code><nowiki>]</nowiki></code> to the article – replacing <code>File name.jpg</code> with the actual file name of the image, <code>right</code> with the alignment of the image on the page and <code>Optional caption</code> with the caption, which of course, is optional. See ] for more information. --] 03:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== WIKI E'mail ==

	Can anyone say whether or not enabling E'mail on Wiki allows a user to user to maintain their anonymity, other than their pseudonyms (user names)? ] 03:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:If you enter your email and send a message to someone, your email address will be visible to them. If they reply, their address will be visible to you. Some people set up Misplaced Pages-only accounts for email at free services like yahoo or gmail to maintain anonymity on email, but in general your email may be seen by others. Cheers, --] 08:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== SILVER RINGS ==

	silver rings homogenous mixtures, elements, or compounds..
	i dont seem able to figure it out
	please explain to me why would it be any of the choices
	thank you thank you thank yoouuou!!! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	*It would help if you provided more info on what choices you are talking about. Are you talking about a multiple choice question? If you do, it helps to repeat the exact question. On the ] mind you, this page is for questions about Misplaced Pages. - ] 11:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== audio function of dictionary ==

	When I put my mouse cursor on certain words, a small window of dictionary appears over the word.
	and with the explanation, small icon of audio appears as well.
	It looks immensely helpful especially when I bump into a strange foreign word
	or a name of regiion which is difficult to read or pronounce.
	However, it doesn't work, there's no sound when it is clicked.
	Is that one of the function that Misplaced Pages provides?
	If not, isn't there a similar function that I can use when I want to know
	the pronunciation of certain words? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 09:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:If you need a word translated into French, Spanish,German, Russian, Italian, Japanese, Korean or Chinese and are using ] This could help you. You just need to set the dictionary language, then every time you highlight a word the translation appears below. If you were to install that "add-on" it would be advisable to disable adblocker as it interferes with it. ]ʃ]ǁ]ɭ 10:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Redirect pages with categories ==

	Is it ok for a redirect page to be in a category? For instance, ] is in ], but it's just a redirect to ]. I think this is useful, because it avoids the need to have a list page for these terms, but is it the right way to do things? — ] \| ] 09:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== I haven't received an confiormation email ==

	I signed up for an account on 11/08/2007
	I haven't received a confirmation as of yet
	I Tried to loggin. not able to
	I ask for my passsword to be emailed. I havent received it either i did sign up using an email account
	help ? leglessone998 <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:03, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	*This is usually the result of an overactive spamfilter. What email provider do you use? If you have AOL or hotmail, try putting anything coming from wikipedia.org on your whitelist and trawl through your spam folder to see if anything got filtered out. - ]\|] 23:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== 288 Closed ==

	I need a letter stating that the 288 freeway was closed on October 13, 2007 around 10 pm because I was late and need an excused letter to justify me being late that day.

	Tracy Taylor <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 12:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:I think it is more likely that you will be able to find some agency involved in an official capacity with transportation/maintenance with the route that will have a verifiable public record showing the closure, as opposed to procuring a tailored letter addressed to your boss. You haven't even stated in what country the subject freeway is located so it is not possible to help you with details of this. Please note for future reference that this page is for asking questions about ''using Misplaced Pages''. Knowledge questions are asked at the ].--] 13:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::The IP address is registered in Texas , so this may be about ]. ] 17:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	==Template function==
	I added <nowiki><includeonly>]</includeonly></nowiki> to the {{tl\|dated prod}} template. It was in a parser function that displays a red expired message when the 5-day prod time limit is up. The template seems to work correctly, and articles with expired prod tags show the message and include the Category. For example: this article: ]. However, when you click on ] the category is empty. Only once on the day before yesterday did I see it populated with like 20 articles. I can't fathom why that is happening. Help!--Esprit15d<big>(] • ] • ]</big>) 13:30, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:'''Additional note:''' well today I did see it populated with some cats, so I don't know if it's suddenly working now or not?--Esprit15d<big>(] • ] • ]</big>) 13:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::I had the same problem with the changes I made to {{tl\|fair use reduced}}, to categorize into ]. Basically, dynamic categorization doesn't work reliably in the current software, but a null edit on the template will fix it (though it's difficult with this one, as it's protected). Also, it may take a couple of hours to fully populate the category. --] 19:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Give us your fucking money ==

	Yes, I saw a banner on Misplaced Pages that said this. I don't care if Misplaced Pages has articles on sex-related stuff, because children won't see them unless they want to. But they will see this banner even if they don't want to. I'm not going to donate, and I'm going to tell children not to read Misplaced Pages in case they see this banner. And where do I complain about such banners? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:This banner was on someone's user page, as I recall. Whose page was it (I can't remember)? I thought it was a fairly harmless joke, but understand how some might be offended. Also, this question might receive prompter attention on ].--] 14:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::You know what, I'll copy this thread to the incident board for you.--] 14:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:] and ] was a little joke as the author ] says at ]. It is apparently only displayed on ], ], ] and ]. They are just three of a huge number of Misplaced Pages editors and they personally chose to add this (see for Addhoc) to their own user or talk pages. User space like this is not a part of the encyclopedia and I hope you don't advice people against Misplaced Pages based on something in user space. ] 14:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Oh and ]. I understand your concerns but it was not intended to cause offence and is only on a very limited number of pages. ] 14:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Aetna Wiki problem ==

	If you go to /Aetna, you will notice the first paragraph has a link titled "Big Floppy Donkey D***" in it. This should be removed. Thank you. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 14:54, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Thanks for reporting it. It was vandalism added earlier today and I have reverted it. You are welcome to ] vandalism on you own. ] 15:10, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Get a copy of help pages, please ==

	To whom it may concern:

	I would like to get a copy of all the[REDACTED] help pages to install in our locate version. I don't want to go to each page and copy paste, since I don't know how to complete clean or fix one with tabs. Is there a way to copy all the help pages, so I can install them?

	Sincerely,		Sincerely,
	James Freas <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	: I couldn't be sure, but I think there is a reason you can't easily save them. Presumeably because you're not supposeed tso I would recommend just not doing it and creating your own. ] <small>]</small> 16:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== "Euler's formula", editing ==

	I'd like to expand a bit on the basic description of Euler's formula in the Preview section.

	Here's my proposed addition: "The formula becomes especially elegant when x = π. The formula then becomes <math>e^{iπ} = \cos(π) + i\sin(π) \!</math>
	. Since the sine of pi = 0 and the cosine of pi = -1, the result of this substitution is that e (with the exponent i * pi) = -1 + 0. Adding 1 to each side of the equation yields: e + 1 = 0, an elegant equation which includes the five most foundational numbers in mathematics."

	No matter how I substitute π for x in the formula, I receive error messages. They state "Failed to parse (lexing error): e^{iπ} = \cos(π) + i\sin(π) \!" or refer to lexing errors.

	I've tried several variations on this idea, with none being successful. How should I continue?

	] 16:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	Billastro

	:Write <code>\pi</code> to display π in a math formula. ] 16:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	I'm sorry, it's still not working. \pi appears in the final text as \pi, not the Greek letter. I've tried replicating the source in several different ways, but nothing works. Am I missing something obvious?

	Thanks in advance.

	Bill <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:51, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:It works for me. Here is your example with π replaced by \pi inside the <nowiki><math></nowiki> tags: <math>e^{i\pi} = \cos(\pi) + i\sin(\pi) \!</math>. ] 00:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	::You wrote π correctly outside <nowiki><math></nowiki> so I assumed you were referring to what to do inside math tags where \pi works. But \pi just displays as \pi outside math tags. If you want to write π outside math tags without using the special π character then write &pi; ] 01:09, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Citation of Misplaced Pages Page ==

	How should I cite a[REDACTED] page? Is the author Wikimedia Foundation Inc.? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 17:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:In the menu on the left of any article, there is a link for "cite this article," which gives you the citation in several formats. In some styles, the author is "Misplaced Pages contributors," and in others it does not list an author. You may also want to check out ] for more information. --] 17:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Please keep in mind citing an encyclopedia is unscholarly and the reason WP exists is to direct you to ] with that information that can be cited. Simply citing WP could be fairly viewed as laziness. <font color="blue">-]] <small>]] ]]</small></font> 01:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Suspected advertisements - how do I report? ==

	I suspect that ] may be using Misplaced Pages to promote the website . His only contributions to the site have been to add somethingpunk.com ratings to a number of albums. His first contribution was yesterday. I tried to search for somethingpunk.com throughout Misplaced Pages, but it only shows a handful of results, and does not include some pages I know that he has edited and have not been reverted. My intention was to see if other users have put forward this website as a valid site for reviews.

	I want to ], so I don't want to revert any of his changes or call him on this. I merely wish to find a venue to raise the question, where someone more adept at handling this sort of situation might look into it.

	Thank you. ] 18:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Those are ], and I'll remove them. I've also . Those were the users only contributions, which is obviously suspicious and something to look for when suspecting spam. Thanks for pointing it out. - ] 19:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Remove templates?? ==

	I get a little confused about something: When is it APPROPRIATE to remove a template (say, one that notes style, grammar, "reads like a magazine article", etc.)issues??

	I enjoy style editing, but sometimes, by the time I get to an article that's 8 months old, it's been nicely edited by 5 different people and doesn't (at least in my opinion, anyway) require anymore cleanup. Is it kosher for me to remove some/all of the "cleanup" templates at the top of the page?? ] 18:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:If you have read the article over and feel that the template isn't deserved anymore, ] and take it off. And you can always leave a note on the talk page stating that you took it off and if someone wants to replace it, to please point out specific reasons why they feel it still belongs. <span style="font-family:monospace;">]</span>\|] 19:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::However, you should check the talk page and see if there are any specific comments before deciding to remove the tag. ] 19:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Sponsorship ==
	how do you find a sponsor? how do you get to know them and all of that <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 19:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	:I'm not quite sure what you're referring to, but I can tell your question has nothing to do with Misplaced Pages. We're only able to assist with using this site, and cannot offer any advice to you, other than recommend that you seek a professional in your field. Sorry. ] <sup>(]/]/])</sup> 21:06, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::It's conceivable you mean a ] on Misplaced Pages. If so, go to ], and if something is still unclear after you read that, asking a more specific question at ] might help. --] (]) 22:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Proposal: allow longer edit summaries ==

	Hi. In the past few weeks, I've had the problem that edit summaries weren't allowed to be long enough. When I revert, I often have to add an explanation to add to the revert message already there. Could someone consider allowing longer edit summaries? The revert summaries are already quite long, and when I add my own summary, it often gets cut off. In fact, there have been about a dozen times when I added more text to the popups revert summary, only to find that it had been cut off when I don't know at which point in the summary it would be cut off. This is beginning to be a big problem, so I suggest making allowed edit summaries twice the space of the current one. Please, I can't go to the reverted editor's talkpage every single time to explain the reason for my revert. Just look at my past few edits, you will see times when my summaries got cut off, or I knew when it would be cut off and had to finish the summary early. If this is not the right place to post this, please notify me on my talkpage where I should post it. I don't know if it's admins or crats or devs that actually controll this stuff, so please notify me on what we could do. Thanks. ~<font color="blue">]]]</font><sup>(]]])</sup> 21:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:If the vote of a newbie means anything, I'd like to second this proposal. There are just times when you need to explain in semi-detail why an edit or revert was made, and the system doesn't give us enough room to do so. ] 21:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	::This should really be directed to the ]. I dunno if it's actually possible but you could always shorten your summaries by ommiting vowels etc, like one does with text messages--] (] '''·''' ]) 21:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Suggestion 1: Don't use the default edit summary when undoing an edit. Revert manually – go to the 'history' tab, select the correct older revision, click 'edit this page', save – and use an appropriate edit summary.
	:Suggestion 2: If the amount of information you want to convey won't fit in the edit summary field, then you're almost certainly using the edit summary for the wrong purpose. Refer, in the edit summary, to an appropriate comment on the article talk page, or leave a message on the talk page of the editor whom you've reverted, as appropriate. ](]) 21:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:I don't know how popups works, but when I use the normal undo button in a page history, I sometimes delete the prefilled edit summary to write something else. ] 22:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	== WIkipedia/Google search problems ==

	I'm trying to get a list of all the Misplaced Pages categories with "Software" in their name, so I ran the google search

	intitle:Category intitle:software site:en.wikipedia.org

	That search returns about 690 items. However I noticed that the category "Business software" was not included. I had used edit/select all/copy/paste into notebook/ to capture the Google search results, then sorted that notebook created file. And I've done it several times; "Business software" never shows up. However, just make it more curious, if after the Google search you use Googles "search within results" facility to search for "Business" -it's there!

	The problem is not that "Business software" was missing, the problem is that anything was missing. "Business software" is only an example; "Accounting software" is also missing on my last attempt.

	Why would anyone care about this? Please take a look at my "Contributions" log, I'm engaged in some obsessive/compulsive updating of the computing and software categories.

	So what's going on between Misplaced Pages and Google searches?

	thanks ] 21:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did the last page of your search end with:
	::''In order to show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very similar to the 545 already displayed. If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included.''

	::Yes, always click that - count went from 690 to 691. Apologies for not being logged on for orginal post, probably got dropped while at lunch. Use this id ==> ] 22:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:Perhaps when you did your cut and paste, you only had 545 of the entries, not 694 of them? <s>Since things like ] and ] are probably largely populated by subcategories, that might affect their pagerank in some bad way, so they might have less Google "relevance" than other categories.</s> --] (]) 22:11, 9 November 2007 (UTC) ''I actually bothered to look, obviously not. Still first part might be right''. --] (]) 22:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::After the select/copy/past, I checked that the last item on each Google search page (7 pages, 100 items/page) was in the notepad file. ] 22:28, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	:btw, I'm not desperate to use Google, if there is a Misplaced Pages way to get the result I'd be happy to use it. ] 22:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::OK, I checked, and you're right, and I can't explain it. Seems like it's more of a Google question than a Misplaced Pages one. However, I think I have good news. If you do a MediaWiki search on "software", and limit it to the ] namespace, you get 1342 results . '''But''', it seems to be sorted so Categories with "software" the '''title''' are listed '''first'''. Look at <s>page 30</s> the 550th or so entry (page number depends on your search results default in your preferences), and you'll see the switch. You'll have to double check, but I think that'll get you where you want to be. Possibly the first time in the history of the universe when a MediaWiki search worked better than a Google one. Maybe Wikimedia should consider competing with Google in the search-engine market. --] (]) 22:55, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

	::: You got it! Thanks. Neat catching that those with "software" in title listed first. Comparing to the Google search, Google missed 10 out of the 1st 50. Thanks again. ] 00:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	::::Glad to help. Enjoy your obsessive compulsion. --] (]) 02:37, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Display problems in Firefox ==

	Hi, i'm using Misplaced Pages on Firefox 2.0.0.9.

	Is the set of "buttons" (i.e., my preferences, etc.) supposed to show up halfway down the page? It didn't when I used IE, and it makes it difficult to navigate? ] 23:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Which skin do you have in ] with Firefox? MonoBook (default) should place the "my preferences" link at the top. ] 00:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	= November 10 =

	==Signatures==
	I see lots of multicoloured signatures on this and other pages, how does one go about creating one with colours, access to talk page, even images in signatures? and where can one sandbox tryout? ] 00:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:I use plain ol' ] and Wiki markup . Mess around in the ] and see how you like it. ] <sup><font color="orange"><b>{</b>] • ]<b>}</b></font></sup> 00:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</font>

	:<small>edit conflict</small>There is a short description at ] of how to change your signature. The easy part is changing it, the hard part is coding it. To make your signature green, and link to talk, for instance,
	#Go to ''my preferences''
	#In the signature box put ''<nowiki>] <font color="009900">(</font>]<font color="009900">)</font></nowiki>''
	#Check the "raw signature" box
	#Save changes. It should appear ] <font color="009900">(</font>]<font color="009900">)</font>
	:The tricky part, of course, is coming up with the code. All I have done here is put font tags around the text I want to appear green. If you have something complex in mind for your signature, let me know and I would be happy to help code it. Images generally should not be included in signatures, although you can do a wide range of things with ] characters. --] <font color="009900">(</font>]<font color="009900">)</font> 00:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== reboot ==

	How do I reboot laptop computer and why does this come up when battery runs out? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Have you tried the ] of Misplaced Pages's ]? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Misplaced Pages. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: . I hope this helps. ] 01:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Wiki Contributor in Juneau, Alaska? ==

	Hello, I am radio journalist and I am looking for a regular wiki contributor in Juneau, AK to do a story on for Alaska Public Radio. Is this the right place to look?

	Thank You,
	Scott Burton
	Juneau, AK
	sb<span>ur</span><font>to</font>n aprn org
	<small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 01:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
	:Try the talk page at ] and leave your request there. Hope this helps ] 01:15, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:A few editors have added themselves to ]. Such categories are optional and many editors don't use them. ] 01:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	: The Wikimedia Foundation, which runs Misplaced Pages, has a ] page which may be helpful. I've restored your email ] so people can get in touch via email. --] (]) 02:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	== Editing menus/linking to Userpage / Protection / Blogs ==

	*I'm going to create a sandbox page and I'd like to put a link to it on my user page or, better yet, add it to the menu that appears at the top of the page (As per "discussion", "Edit this Page", "history", etc.) Or, can I add it to my menu that appears at the top of the screen next to my handle after I log on ("my talk", "my preferences", etc)?

	*Can I protect my user page and sandbox?

	*A lot of the user and talk pages on this site look like blogs. Is blogging part of the setup here?

	] 01:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	:You cannot protect your user page or sandbox.
	:Not only is blogging not a part of the setup here, but ], including in the user and talk pages. There are lots of other places for that. --] 01:28, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	::Just to clarify: you may request your userpage/sandbox to be ] at ], but only in response to an unusually large amount of vandalism. You cannot do it yourself Before I got my userpage protected, it was getting vandalised on average twice a week (14 times in two months), so be sure that it is absoutely necessary. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 01:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	<div align="right">Further reading: ''']'''</div>
	:::Also, I do not believe that you can add your own "tabs" at the top of your page; a plain ol' link will do fine. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 01:39, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

	Okay, thanks, how can I do the link? (I'm finding the advice on the Links help page confusing.)

	Also, is there a part of the site that explains definitively what you can tamper with and what is protected programming?

	] 02:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:To link to another page on Misplaced Pages, type <nowiki>]</nowiki>. Be sure to insert the appropriate prefix (User:, User talk:, Template:, Template talk:, etc) in front of the pagename. For articles, simply type <nowiki>], or ] for the talkpage.</nowiki> Templates can be transcluded onto a page by typing <nowiki>{{Template name}}</nowiki>
	:As for your "tamper" question, you may edit the following:
	*Article pages
	:*You may not edit semi-protected articles until your account is four days old.
	:*Fully protected articles cannot be edited by anyone lower than an ].
	*Pages in any other namespace EXCEPT:
	:*It is considered bad practice to edit other's userpages, even to fix an error, unless they have specifically asked you to.
	:*Again, fully protected pages (e.g. high risk templates)
	*You may want to read up on the user access levels, this is a simple, broad description. ''''']<sup>(]</sup><sub>])</sub>''''' 02:40, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	<div align="right">Further reading: ''']''' — Useful links: ''']''', ''']'''</div>

	== Socrates References ==

	I am trying to set up the cnote/cref template over at ]. I am not fully experienced in these things and would greatly appreciate it if someone could help me to fix or explain to me how to properly use cnotes. I am trying to copy the system as implemented (quite well) at ]. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 03:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Swap Engine ==

	Hi I have A 1984 Elcamino and I would like to know can A Ls1 engine go in it and what do I have to do and changes i must do. Thanks,GOTTI <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== How do I send messages to other users ==

	Misplaced Pages could you please tell me how to send messages to other users without using their profiles
	] 05:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:Without leaving a message on their talk page, if the user has their Email enabled you can do it that way. When you go to a user page or a user talk page, notice the left side of the screen under the "toolbox" section it says "Email User". - ] 05:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

			Brennan2013 ] (]) 23:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
	== federal system of government ==

			:{{ping\|Brennan2013}}, suggested edits is part of ]. If you don't get a detailed answer here, you could ask at the talk page there. A couple of sentences quoting the message you got should be sufficient, I don't think deinstalling the app is relevant.
	What is federalism and how does it function?] 07:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
	:See ]. --] ] 07:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

			:It is a well known issue that new users often don't know much about how Misplaced Pages works, so they often make mistakes when they start editing. ] (]) 01:10, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Pay ==
			:@], we expect new users to make mistakes but we also expect new users to learn from those mistakes. Since editors get a notification whenever an edit is reverted, you can look at what happened and not continue to do the same thing. I notice you are using the Android app to edit. There are some limitations to the interface if you edit with an app rather than with a browser. Did you get a notification every time one of your edits was reverted? That may be the problem. ] (]) 04:19, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
			::{{u\|Brennan2013}}, I have made close to 100,000 edits to Misplaced Pages on Android smartphones going back many years. Other than occasionally for test purposes, I ''never'' use any Misplaced Pages app or the Misplaced Pages mobile site or the visual editor. That is because I prefer a fully functional editing interface. So, I use the good old fashioned "desktop" site which works perfectly on 2025 Android phones despite its overly narrow name, and I avoid the visual editor and work in Wikicode, which is very easy to learn. Just take a look at ] which shows how much useful formatting anyone can do without a college level course and with ten or fifteen minutes of reading. ] (]) 06:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
			:@] A quick look at ], as an example, shows that you removed a perfectly good age template but marked the edit as "Fixed grammar", and you later added unsourced information to the article. All substantive information in any article should be based on a reliable source. ]\|] 09:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

			= January 24 =
	I will contribute to[REDACTED] if you reduce the amount of deletion, e.g for notoriety. The nobel prize takes 20 years+ to get awarded so who can say what is important after a few months! Deleting articles that took a lot of effort to create to save disk space issues is silly. Just leave it and delete it in 10 years,if ever.

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Middleton family

Reference number 191 is in red - I have got it all wrong and I get confused. Please repair the damage. I am sorry Srbernadette (talk) 06:29, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Srbernadette Fixed, you had written the year in the access date as "20025". Respectfully, you make this specific error quite often; you probably just hit the zero twice by accident. When this happens the red message says "check date values in accces-date", to identify where exactly the issue is. 331dot (talk) 07:08, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

On the phenomenon of the frequent occurrence of specific kinds of error, Srbernadette: On 12 October, Tenryuu suggested to you that "you should consider writing down what other editors have been saying so that you have a 'common mistakes made' note that you can reference to the side of whatever device you're using." If you didn't implement that then, perhaps you could implement it now. -- Hoary (talk) 11:09, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Whitespace on top of page

The page Vishwaroopam controversies displays a line of whitespace on top of the article. Why is that there, and how can it be removed? Truthnope (talk) 08:16, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Fixed.--♦IanMacM♦ 08:21, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

phone keyboard constantly recentering the screen

I am trying to edit pages on my Samsung S22 but opening the keyboard will forcefully recenter the screen every couple seconds, making it impossible to see what I'm typing. Sometimes it closes the keyboard entirely.

This problem persists even if I use the "desktop site" option in mobile. I'm using Firefox.

Any solutions? Scuttlebug Jam (talk) 12:17, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Not had this issue on my A15 (Chrome). Odd. Could you switch to Gboard? Jay Cubby 14:41, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

I have the same problem with Firefox while using other websites. I think it's Firefox's issue. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 15:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

@Scuttlebug Jam, Using Chrome on Android and been through that, but now i am the boss (feeling so). Basically i avoid that by going top again. Ok, simply whenever i enter something, that text hide itself and next line appear at top most screen, at that moment i just scroll to top of the screen (top of the section) and then again scroll to that particular line, and guess what - no issue. try once.––kemel49 17:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Category history

If you add a category to your watchlist, it notifies you when pages are added to or removed from that category. The category history (View History tab) does not show this information, however, as it only includes changes to the category page itself. How would I see the history of additions/removals for any category (regardless of whether it is on my watchlist)? Is it available? If a category suddenly got bigger or smaller, it would be useful to see which pages had been added or removed. --Jameboy (talk) 17:30, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

User:Nardog/CatChangesViewer is useful for this. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Image

While visiting the page This Must Be the Place (film), I noticed this image: . The source says "Facebook" but the link is not accessible: . The image caption states: "Teaser poster of This Must Be the Place"; but a reverse Google Image brings up Pinterest Paper Cuts of similar sayings: . I'm not sure how to put up an image for deletion; but I think this is not what it purports to be. Maineartists (talk) 23:24, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

Is there another, more stable source (there are usually those that hold images of film posters)? Generally, this would go to Files for discussion or Deletion requests on Commons. But preferably look for one that is fair use. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 23:38, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. Taking it to Deletion requests on Commons. This is not a poster for the film ("early" or otherwise). Obviously this was a hoax of some sorts. Maineartists (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

This was much harder than I expected. WP does not make it easy to simply place an image up for requested deletion! Yeesh! I placed the required template on the image page here: , but from there on it's just a big mess. As instructed: and then listed: ; but it does not seem to be correct. I have successfully placed several articles up for AfD but this one threw me. What did I do wrong? TIA. Maineartists (talk) 00:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Maineartists: The file is uploaded at the English Misplaced Pages (because it's non-free) and not Commons so a deletion discussion should be here and not at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Maineartists, I suggest that you reverse your edits so far and follow the process at Misplaced Pages:Files for discussion. TSventon (talk) 01:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Already done. I was only following the advice / directions given above. Guess I should have gone to FfD first. Thank you, TSventon for linking the process. I had no idea what "so a deletion discussion should be here" meant. Heading there now. This was a first for me. Now I know. Maineartists (talk) 01:13, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Maineartists: it's confusing if you are not a copyright expert (neither am I). You are more likely to get specialist advice at Misplaced Pages:Media copyright questions. TSventon (talk) 01:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. This one had nothing to do with copyright. The image was not what it purported it to be: . The uploader has a history of uploading questionable images to WP with numerous deletions and violations in their history; without any response on their Talk Page to notifications. The image in question has been removed from the article and successfully placed for FfD. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 01:31, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

The nomination looks fine. Media Copyright Questions is a place for help with image copyrights, tagging, non-free content, and related questions so I think this query would have been in scope. TSventon (talk) 01:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

January 22

Default alt text for image not appearing in article

As you can see I added alt text to the structured data of https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg

But when I use https://www.w3.org/WAI/test-evaluate/easy-checks/image-alt/ to check

https://en.wikipedia.org/Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification

I cannot see it.

This is the first time I tried to use default alt text so perhaps I have missed something? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:40, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I don't think you can add alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons). Alt text is used in an article when you add the image. Otherwise all the different Wikipedias would be stuck with the same wording and language for the alt text. Meters (talk) 07:27, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

See MOS:ALT Meters (talk) 07:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Also see meta:Community Wishlist Survey 2021/Reading/Alt-Texts and Image Descriptions. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Meters Thanks for those links but I am still confused. I already have added English alt text to the image itself (i.e., on commons) - that is not a problem and as it is labelled as "English" I presume other language Wikipedias will not use it but could also add text in their own languages. You can see it on the image link above by clicking "structured data" and scrolling to the bottom of the structured data. My problem is that the text is not appearing when I use the image on Misplaced Pages. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: The image used in Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#Monitoring,_reporting_and_verification is kept on this English wiki at Greenhouse_gas_emissions_by_Turkey#/media/File:Greenhouse_gas_emission_and_absorption_by_Turkey.svg, not on Commons.

Regardless of where it is kept, the image in the article will only have alt text if an alt= has been included in its file statement. For the article concerned, there is no alt= parameter:

] can take out. There is some correlation with the ], such as a dip during the ].]]

You need to add an alt= parameter. You can refer to MOS:IMAGESYNTAX for an example.

The above will apply regardless of where the image is kept.

Note that the alt text should describe what the image is, not the graph's contents. So, for example, "A graph showing the levels of greenhouse gas emissions and absorptions in Turkey from 1990 to 2022.". If the data shown by the graphs in the article is important to the article's readers, then separate tables of the data ought to be included the article, as stipulated by MOS:TEXTASIMAGES. Bazza 7 (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks I understand how to set the alt text manually for each article. But the reason I would like this default is because I quite often use the same image in different articles so it would save me (and hopefully other people) cutting and pasting alt text.

The default alt text I used was set up by https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T166094 which is now closed.

Whereas the request for default alt text at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T21906 is still open.

But I don’t understand the difference. Can anyone explain in simple terms? Chidgk1 (talk) 16:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

i want to post my content in draft

I am planning to edit my Misplaced Pages content based on the guidelines, but I am unsure how to move it to the draft space. Julynoeh (talk) 07:05, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

It can simply be moved to the draft space by any autoconfirmed user, which you are. See WP:MOVE, but if you mean your content in User:Julynoeh/sandbox, there's little point moving it to Draft. That draft has already been rejected by User:Rusalkii, not just declined, and a rejected draft usually should not be resubmitted. See WP:AFCREVIEW Meters (talk) 07:21, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Julynoeh As you must know, since you Wikilinked it, there is an existing article at Over-the-air update. If you have any content from your draft that is reliably sourced and relevant, you could add it to that article. Use your own words to paraphrase the sources you cite, not chatbots. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Inter-language Links in Coding for the German and French Misplaced Pages Severs.

I know how to write an inter-language link to produce a broken link in an English article to a page that does not exist on the English server, but does exist in a foreign language Misplaced Pages server:
French:{{ill|Conann|lt=Conann|fr|Conann (film)}}, i.e. Conann
German:{{ill|Conann|lt=Meeples' Choice Award|de|Meeples' Choice Award}}, i.e. Meeples' Choice Award
However, I would like to know the reciprocal German and French coding to do the same thing, i.e. link to a Misplaced Pages article that does not exist on that respective language Misplaced Pages server, i.e. the French or German server, but does exist in the English server:
French: ?
German: ?
Does anyone know if such coding exists and whether there are help pages on the French and German server for this coding? SMargan (talk) 08:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@SMargan: you can check the Wikidata item d:Q13606208. fr:Modèle:Lien exists, but no de equivalent. You could ask at de:Misplaced Pages:Fragen zur Misplaced Pages whether they have anything similar. TSventon (talk) 09:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@SMargan: Each Misplaced Pages language makes its own policies. The German Misplaced Pages has decided to not allow such links in articles. See de:Hilfe:Internationalisierung#Im Text sichtbare Interwiki-Links. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:17, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) Thanks for the clarification! You have been a great help. I found this coding on the German server {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}}, however, it just seemed to produce no text at all. Now that you have told me that there is no comparative German coding, I will stop looking. SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) Sorry to bother you again, but is there a Inter-language Link coding for the Spanish language server as well? SMargan (talk) 11:41, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @SMargan. The Wikidata item d:Q13606208 (which TSventon linked to) has an es-wiki link to es:Plantilla:Enlace interlingüístico. Whether or not it has the same functionality as {{ill}} I don't know. ColinFine (talk) 11:54, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

If you add {{#interlanguagelink:en|Friedrich Schiller}} it is the same as ] and changes the en link under In anderen Sprachen to en:Friedrich Schiller. If you were allowed to link the article you would add a colon ]. TSventon (talk) 12:00, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@TSventon: TSventon (talk) - Thanks once again for your assistance! You have been a great help! SMargan (talk) 13:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Request for Guidance on Article Review

Hello Team,

I have been submitting the article for review for the past three days, but it is still showing as a draft, with no violations indicated on the talk page. Following Misplaced Pages guidelines, I disclosed that this is a paid contribution and added the following statement to my user page:

"This user, in accordance with the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use, discloses that they have been paid by ZAPTA Technologies on behalf of Nasir Ali for their contributions to Misplaced Pages."

I have published this article without any charges. Could you please advise on the next steps?

Best regards,

Mohsin Ali (Taching1989) Taching1989 (talk) 09:51, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Taching1989 I have added the template which will allow you to submit the draft for review. Before you do, find a better source for citation #1. You use Crunchbase, which is deprecated (see the link). Are you sure your draft shows how the company meets our notability criteria for companies? Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:48, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for guidance, should I remove Crunchbase link? Taching1989 (talk) 11:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Taching1989. Without looking at the draft, I would reply Yes, you should remove the Crunchbase link, and any information which is cited only to that link (unless you can find a better source for that information). ColinFine (talk) 11:55, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I removed it. I am looking for more guidance to publish my article. Taching1989 (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

I have removed the link and submitted it for review. Kindly check if everything is completed. Taching1989 (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

Edição de uma imagem que eu criei para a[REDACTED] em português na[REDACTED] Inglesa

Eu criei e editei na pagina Terno Pitagórico da Misplaced Pages de Lingua Portuguesa uma imagem geométrica de minha autoria para a compreensão da minha edição "Dedução das equações algebrica do trio pitagórico a partir da geometria". Eu preciso fazer upload desta imagem para a edição na pagina Pythagorean Triple da Wikipédia de língua Inglesa, e tentei de varias formas e não consegui, por esse motivo não consegui minha edição. Quando fiz o upload da imagem na edição em Português eu coloquei como imagem livre para uso. Aguardo uma orientação para eu poder fazer upload da imagem e conseguir a minha edição na Wikipédia Inglesa. Gonzagalaier (talk) 11:58, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Translation: Editing an image I created for the Portuguese Misplaced Pages on the English Misplaced Pages

I created and edited on the pt:Terno pitagórico (Pythagorean Triad) page of the Portuguese Language Misplaced Pages a geometric image of my own for the understanding of my edition "Deduction of the algebraic equations of the Pythagorean trio from geometry". I need to upload this image for editing on the Pythagorean Triple page of the English Misplaced Pages, and I have tried in several ways and have not been able to, for this reason I have not been able to edit it. When I uploaded the image in the Portuguese edition I put it as a free image for use. I'm waiting for guidance so I can upload the image and get my edit on the English Misplaced Pages. (via Google translate) TSventon (talk) 12:06, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gonzagalaier Please use English when posing a question here. The file you wish to use appears to be File:Deduction pythagorean triple equations by geometry.png, which is on Commons and can therefore be incorporated into articles on en:Misplaced Pages as explained at Help:Pictures. However, I suspect that its use will be controversial, so you should probably discuss this on the article's Talk Page at Talk:Pythagorean triple. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

How unredict

few weeks i made draft of Aye Ishq-e-Junoon by added soruces and summit for review but CNMall41 rejected my draft twice and i keep and rediting add soruces for series which CNMall41 think i was one of socks, i was fifteen year veteran joined Misplaced Pages and when moved Aye Ishq-e-Junoon to main page, there was re-editing by someone and i had noticed my article was reviwed by bot and cnmail41 moved to rediect , i had grammar issues by --Sunuraju (talk) 12:12, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Sunuraju Your draft was examined by the experienced reviewer User:CNMall41, who noted that it used unreliable sources. It has been redirected to a related article. CNMall41 may wish to comment further. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

should i add relibale sources ? Sunuraju (talk) 12:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

The edit summary at Aye Ishq-e-Junoon was NEWSORGINDIA and other unreliable sources. Redirecting as an alternative to deletion but will take to AfD should there be an objection. Basically, the opinion was that this was not a notable topic. You can either revert the redirection and add sources (but make sure they are reliable), or do nothing.

Be aware if the sourcing still doesn't meet GNG it'll likely go through AfD. Lee Vilenski 13:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

To be clear, you DO have a conflict of interest, likely UPE and in the least are MEAT. Don't expect to be rewarded for such. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:18, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Deleting my contributions

How do I go about deleting all my contributions in wikipedia? Clp69 (talk) 18:02, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Clp69 You can revert the contributions you have made but they will not be deleted from the edit history of any article and may be restored by other editors. When you add any content to Misplaced Pages, you irrevocably license it CC BY SA 4.0, as it says when you publish/save any edit. Mike Turnbull (talk) 18:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Your contributions cannot be deleted, but if referring to vanishing, see this for how to properly do that. We’re sorry if there are any complications you’ve had here. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:15, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@Clp69 Furthermore, every time you edited Misplaced Pages you were clearly told that you agree to irrevocably release your text under the CC BY-SA 4.0 License and GFDL. Shantavira| 09:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

If you can explain why a particular contribution is not correct or inappropriate, please do so on the article's talk page, citing any relevant sources, and the material will be deleted. However, if the contribution is useful and encyclopedic, it will be retained in the article, because our contributions are not "ours", they are part of the free content on Misplaced Pages. -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Creating an article

Dear Misplaced Pages: I'm the librarian for Waterford High School (CT). The Athletic Director put together a history of the athletics program from when the school opened in 1956 to the present day. I foolishly (bravely?) suggested I would make a Misplaced Pages page out of the information and link it to the school's page. And now, of course, I have no idea what I am doing. Is there a primer that could walk me through the process? Should I find a copy of Misplaced Pages for Dummies? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Matt Cadorette, Librarian, Waterford High School Waterford, CT Mcadorette (talk) 18:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Mcadorette, and welcome to the Teahouse.

In addition to the good advice given by 2601, My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Misplaced Pages works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. ColinFine (talk) 21:53, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Misplaced Pages first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Misplaced Pages:Your first article. You might also look at Misplaced Pages:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Misplaced Pages:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 18:25, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

It would have to be a really good sports program to merit a standalone article. At best, it belongs in Waterford High School (Connecticut)#Athletics. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:23, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

January 23

Category:Mass murderers

I was going to post at Category talk:Mass murderers, but there was a note recommending I post here instead. The Category:Mass murderers doesn't seem to have a clear inclusion criteria. Is it all individuals who have killed 3 or more people without a cooling off period? Do they need to have been convicted in court for murder? Is it mainly for mass shooting/mass stabbing, or do bombings count? Do they need to have committed the act themselves, or can they be included if they ordered or masterminded the killings? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 04:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Vice regent: I guess it's all of them though I'm not sure.

Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gnu779 what is the best place to have this discussion? VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 12:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, @Vice regent. The talk page of one of the WikiProjects linked on that Category talk page: probably WT:Crime and Criminal Biography, I would have thought. ColinFine (talk) 13:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 13:55, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

no problem btw.

Gnu779 ( talk) 12:45, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

what

What if blocked IPs edit with a proxy? Is it okay if they only do good edits? Gnu779 ( talk) 12:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gnu779 Does Misplaced Pages:Open proxies answer your question? Shantavira| 13:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Gnu779, block evasion by any technique is not permitted. It is the human being who is blocked, and blocking their most recent IP address is just the enforcement mechanism. Cullen328 (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Oh, so all their identities are blocked?

Gnu779 ( talk) 12:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Creating a talk page for Sicilian business

Hey, y'all. I created the article Sicilian business a few months ago and I've been meaning to take it through PR. Can someone help me create a talk page and sort it under its appropriate WikiProjects so I can get this process started? I've brought several articles to PR before, but I've never had the issue of there not being a talk page! Thanks. Unlimitedlead (talk) 17:24, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Surprisingly easy: Have a look at this guide for information on how to do so. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:27, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello, 2601AC47. Simply click on the red link Talk: Sicilian business and follow the instructions to create the tak page. Cullen328 (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

You meant Unlimitedlead? I didn't create that one. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 17:34, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Sorry for pinging the wrong editor. Cullen328 (talk) 17:43, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Okay... I think I set it up correctly. Thanks for the assist! Unlimitedlead (talk) 17:31, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, you just created the page. Cullen328 (talk) 17:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Amending existing edit request or making an additional one?

If I have a pending edit request on an extended-confirmed-protected page, and I have an additional edit to request, should I edit the talk page to add it to the existing edit request, or initiate a new edit request? Kenfree (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

If the new edit request is unrelated to the initial one I might make it a second request to avoid mixed responses (Yes to the first, No to the second). If it's related and nobody's responded to the initial request yet, I'd likely amend it. Hope this helps! DonIago (talk) 21:02, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

If you do edit your initial request, you should probably note that somewhere to avoid confusion from anyone who may have read the initial request. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:08, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Kenfree, from the pragmatic point of view, it is pretty clear to me, based on over 15 years of experience, that a simple, concise, well-referenced edit request has a far better chance of being implemented by a volunteer editor than an edit request that has been modified, expanded and now deals with several issues instead of one. Almost any interested volunteer prefers to deal with such requests in "bite sized chunks". Cullen328 (talk) 06:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

thanks Kenfree (talk) 09:36, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Issue With "Edits" Page Following A Limitation and Uninstallment of Misplaced Pages

Dear Misplaced Pages Support,

I hope this message finds you well. I am reaching out to seek assistance regarding an issue with my Misplaced Pages account, Brennan2013.

The issue began after my edits to the articles Jonathan the Tortoise and other elderly tortoises were reverted by another user. Soon after, I noticed that my contributions page became restricted, displaying the message:

"Suggested edits is disabled. Sorry Brennan2013, too many of your recent contributions have been reverted."

For context:

I initially downloaded and installed the Misplaced Pages mobile app through the Google Play Store in late December 2024. Since then, I’ve primarily used my Android Onn. Tablet to read and edit articles on Misplaced Pages.

After encountering this restriction, I uninstalled the app in frustration.

Today (Thursday, January 23, 2025), I reinstalled the app through the Google Play Store and logged into my account, only to find that the issue persists.

Editing Misplaced Pages has always been an enjoyable and educational experience for me. I strive to make meaningful contributions and was disappointed to see that my access to the contributions page and suggested edits remains restricted. I am unsure whether this limitation is still active due to the reverted edits or if uninstalling and reinstalling the app has affected my account.

Could you please provide more information about the current status of my account? Is the restriction temporary, or do additional steps need to be taken to restore full access?

Either way, I will continue to enjoy reading and editing on Misplaced Pages, as it remains one of my favorite platforms. Thank you for the incredible resource that Misplaced Pages provides and for all the work you do to maintain it.

I greatly appreciate your time and support, and I look forward to your response.

Sincerely,

Brennan2013 Brennan2013 (talk) 23:37, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

@Brennan2013:, suggested edits is part of Misplaced Pages:Growth Team features. If you don't get a detailed answer here, you could ask at the talk page there. A couple of sentences quoting the message you got should be sufficient, I don't think deinstalling the app is relevant.

It is a well known issue that new users often don't know much about how Misplaced Pages works, so they often make mistakes when they start editing. TSventon (talk) 01:10, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

@Brennan2013, we expect new users to make mistakes but we also expect new users to learn from those mistakes. Since editors get a notification whenever an edit is reverted, you can look at what happened and not continue to do the same thing. I notice you are using the Android app to edit. There are some limitations to the interface if you edit with an app rather than with a browser. Did you get a notification every time one of your edits was reverted? That may be the problem. StarryGrandma (talk) 04:19, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Brennan2013, I have made close to 100,000 edits to Misplaced Pages on Android smartphones going back many years. Other than occasionally for test purposes, I never use any Misplaced Pages app or the Misplaced Pages mobile site or the visual editor. That is because I prefer a fully functional editing interface. So, I use the good old fashioned "desktop" site which works perfectly on 2025 Android phones despite its overly narrow name, and I avoid the visual editor and work in Wikicode, which is very easy to learn. Just take a look at WP:CHEATSHEET which shows how much useful formatting anyone can do without a college level course and with ten or fifteen minutes of reading. Cullen328 (talk) 06:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

@Brennan2013 A quick look at Jonathan the Tortoise, as an example, shows that you removed a perfectly good age template but marked the edit as "Fixed grammar", and you later added unsourced information to the article. All substantive information in any article should be based on a reliable source. Shantavira| 09:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

January 24

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