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<p align="left"><font color="#0000FF" size="3" face="Comic Sans MS">Welcome to my talk page.<br/><br/>This is My Talk page. In my home: Nasty, rude, threatening, and / or impolite comments, or postings by editors that I just plain do not like because they have '''NOT''' been nice, will be deleted by me.<br/><br/> <p align="left"><span style="color:#0000FF; font-size:medium; font-family:Comic Sans MS;">Welcome to my talk page.<br/><br/>This is John's talk page. The civility requirement of Misplaced Pages applies to ALL posting on my user talk page. Nasty, rude, angry, hostile, threatening, indecisive, juvenile chatter, and / or impolite comments, or postings by editors that I just plain do not like because they have '''NOT''' been nice will be ignored.<br/><br/></span>

So, kiss up to me on my talk page or your comments will be deleted.</font>
Today is February 6, 2015. is for contacting me by private email, since Facebook messages are NOT always 100% reliable. It exists for a reason. Feel free to use it.</br >-- ] (]) 02:06, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
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== WikiProject Alternative Medicine ==


You have listed yourself as a participant of this project. The project has had a minimum of activity. Hopefully this can be changed. I am posting this notice on the user talk pages of those participants that are still active Wikipedians. If you are still interested in getting the project into gear, make yourself heard on the ]! Cheers! __] 09:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)


== Welcome back ==
: I have just freshen up the WikiProject project page. Since the talk page is active, the project is likewise active. I see no need to maintain a list of active versus non-active participants. That will only turnoff new prospects, IMHO. Once a participant, always a participant in intent if nothing else. Want to be active? Then less talk and more edtiting of articles, and forget the talk pages. -- ] 19:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)


Hi John, may I ask why my user name is on your user page? Thanks and have a good day, --]] 20:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
:: I would like to help out. Please let me know how. -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">]</font></sup> 20:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
:::See, our open task list on our project page. -- ] 15:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC) :Thank you. Yes, you may. It is not there now. I had copied the starting point for my user page in part from another user. -- ] (]) 23:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
::Ok thanks, that's what I was thinking. My user page had helped another gather links and such when getting started. I was just curious. I hope it helped, please feel free to snag whatever you would like from there. I need them to refer to things because I forget easily so it makes things easier for me to have the list to remind me. Have a good day, happy and healthy editing, --]] 13:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)


== Let's shake hands ==


Hi John. I just want to check in with you and share some thoughts. While we obviously don't always agree on many things regarding alternative medicine, I want to reassure you that I do not have, and never have had, any intentions to improperly delete or downplay the existence of alternative medicine subjects at Misplaced Pages. They exist, and Misplaced Pages's job includes documenting the real world, including alternative medicine. You have done an amazing job at creating many things on the subject. I might not agree with some POV issues with some of them, but the basic idea of creating some of them is impressive.
== Thanks for our new Portal ==

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The situation that occurred when you returned (related to the ] which I started) was unfortunate. I'm sorry about that. I didn't even know that the list you had created - ] - existed, and I definitely had no intention of competing with it or with the ] which you also started. The very fact that I created the list should indicate that I wasn't attempting to do any disservice to the subject, but was in fact making it more accessible to editors and readers. "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery" would apply, IF I had known about your original list. We both saw a need and were apparently thinking alike on that one! I hope we're okay and can edit together, and even when we disagree, that we can do it agreeably. -- ] (]) 03:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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:I am inclined to believe that I was likewise correct on the areas in which we disagree on. It is fine with me. I would just like to see more favorable voting from you in the days to come. -- ] (]) 23:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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:The improper notice and lack of discussion referenced by me, speaks for itself. And so does no other editor to date reversing my edit. -- ] (]) 17:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
==Format for Herbs==
Does a format for the Herbal pages exist. If not, do you think it would be a good idea? --] 16:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:<s>What do you mean by format? -- ] 16:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)</s>


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I meant a format for talking about medicinal herbs. In other words a format that lays out sections that would be common to all articles on herbs. For example "History (Past & Modern), Traditional Uses, Claims, Science, Sources, (where it's grown) Wildcrafted vs. farmed etc ... --] 20:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
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:It would be best to discuss that with ] or ]. I know absolutely nothing about medicinal herbs. Personally, I see no reason to use them when food, exercise, and nutritional supplements work just fine in most cases. -- ] (]) 02:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
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::Medicinal Herbs are helpful when those things are not enough. There are situations where a person might use a drug, that an herb would do as well or better with less side -effects. I assume that herbs would also be part of the alternative medicine portal. ] (]) 18:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


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:::For now, add a herb related article to the '''Selected Article''' box. -- ] (]) 02:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


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==Template title==
Hi there, I was unsure what the title of the new "Biologically-based therapy" template means, and what the criteria you used to classify these therapies were. Please comment on the template talk page. ] 18:24, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:I you are not sure, then why in the world did you edit it? Just curious. -- ] 19:50, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I did some research and read the source. The new title is more specific and describes the contents of the template in an unambiguous manner, hopefully you will agree that this is an improvement. ] 20:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)


== Portal Quotes == == medicinal clay ==


Hello, John,
"If one has an issue with the supposed bias of this portal, nominating the whole of it would be sensible." Does this come next? --] 20:22, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:I rather think that the first step is to communicate what in the world you are talking about. I do not happen to have ESP. Perhaps, if you were to try editing? -- ] 20:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::So sorry. This is from the top of the Portal Quotes summary. "If one has an issue with the supposed bias of this portal, nominating the whole of it would be sensible." I was wondering if this would come next, that is a MFD of the Portal. I am learning about the politics of this place and wonder how these situations usually proceed. --] 20:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::'''I do NOT have a clue as to what you are talking about.''' And, I have better things to do with my time than try to communicate with some body who refuses to communicate, for whatever reason. -- ] 20:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::: I'm sorry. I didn't mean to waste you time. --] (]) 23:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
:::A third part explained to me what you were trying to say.
:::I never read Xoloz's comment, nor would most editors. This entire MfD will soon be completely forgotten. It is totally besides the point what Xoloz wrote. Opinions are a dime a dozen, including Xoloz's. '''The only thing that counts is that the move to delete was defeated.'''
:::Anybody can do a MfD on any article/list/category/portal, or whatever, at any time. Being constantly attacked by the so-called skeptics is just part of the alternative medicine territory. -- ] (]) 02:32, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


You wrote ]:


:"Personally, I cannot say I am in favor of the use of Medicinal clay. Had a very negative experience with a dirt eater outside of Misplaced Pages. I have never used Medicinal clay and probably never will."
==Orthomolecular medicine==


But have it ever occurred to you to use the clay externally? I'm not aware of '''any''' negative side-effects of that.
1) You no longer seem "set up to receive emails."


As to internal use, yes, some negative side-effects are possible, but generally because of excessive consumption.
2) I have no doubt that orthomolecular medicine is a "biologically based" alternative medical treatment. And yet I think it confuses more than it clarifies when it is classified in the same group as such esoteric therapies like urine therapy.


Best regards, ] (]) 05:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Bear in mind that the disputes surrounding these 2 therapies are completely different. Proponents of orthomolecular medicine, many scientists and physicians among them, allege that their discipline is the result of meticulous research in laboratories, that could be proved with double blind placebo-controlled studies, but that these generally have yet to (correctly) be done, or that the studies which are claimed to disprove its validity are erroneous in design or conclusions. Of course, the best case solution would be to replicate these studies, once and for all. Urine therapy, on the other hand, is endorsed by but a handful of eccentrics, and to the best of my knowledge, has no lab results to support it.


== Help with ] redaction ==
While the classification as such is correct, I believe it puts orthomolecular medicine into a very misleading light by inference. Would you consider removing your classification?--] (]) 15:20, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
:Agreed! The list should be as small as possible, with only our best articles listed. -- ] 16:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


Greetings John--
== Blood electrification article up on AFD ==


I am writing to you appealing to your wisdom an experience in matters probably similar to this. What would you say is the best protocol for a response in a massive deletion and debunk of the ] article? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
] is under attack again. The AFD ] article links to the AFD discussion page. Please weigh-in with your thoughts. Gang members of the Pub-med only references medical and establishment science community visit and edit the article deleting lots of it without discussion on the talk page, then nominate the article for deletion because it gets so thin on content and WP:RS references. Deletionists maintain the argument that patents on file are not WP:RS for other than the fact that the patents were awarded without regard to the evidence in the filed patents that the claims are true, and have been accepted by the patent examiners. ] (]) 04:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
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Dr. Bob Beck (1925-2002) was a famous alternative medicine guru who advocated electro-medicine.


:If this template was already pre-existing on several different articles, then it is NOT an orphaned template. Nor, has it been deprecated. -- ] (]) 11:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
I started a wiki article about him in May-June 2007 or so, and have needed help with it to make it acceptable.


== introduction ==
The article was AFD within a month or less, and it was decided to place the article into my user-space, so I am still trying to improve it over time.


Hi
MastCell, one of the Medicine Wiki group, has just contacted me stating his / her intent to have the article reconsidered for, and promptly deleted without me having it in a ready to go state.
I am new to[REDACTED] editing and have just discovered these project groups. I am a biologist with an interest in alternative medicine. I see that this group is quite different from, say, the gastropod project... emotions don't seem to run so hot over there. Nonetheless, I would like to join this project because I believe I can make positive contributions.


My area of wiki expertise right now is the enlargement of stubs from the available research. I am dedicated to finding reliable sources of information and reporting it accurately.
I would like you or anyone that you could recommend help me get the article in shape for such a deletion review, or your honest thoughts about whether or not it is worth the effort given the harsh climate around here for ] given its mistreatment in mainstream media, and the scientific / medical journals. ] (]) 00:20, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


I have an open mind when it comes to 'alternative medicine'. I do not accept anything blindly - I need evidence - but I do not reject new ideas out of hand as 'pseudoscience'. I believe in the scientific method but i also am suspicious of some aspects of modern medicine that seem to be controlled more by drug companies than health professionals.
:It contains way, way, way too much material. You are not writing a book, but one article. It should be about the historical person only. Remove all health claims and stuff about the Beck Protocol (which could go into a separate article). You need to decide what are the most important events in his life and concentrate on them. The article contains too much material.


On a personal level, I want to keep my body as healthy as possible using natural foods, and medicines where needed. I live a pretty 'alternative' life style in the Australian bush (solar powered home, composting, growing our own food) and have benefited from such alternative medical fields as chiropractic treatments, herbal medicines and massage. I realise that there are still snake oil salesmen out there but I also believe that many people who have been maligned as snake oil pushers are actually people who believe in their products or methods and deserve to have a voice.
:One way to organize this article is to put a section header on every couple of paragraphs. This will create a table of contents outline of the article. This will make it easier to cut out major sections of the article. -- ] (]) 01:40, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


Ok I don't want to go on too long but I want to know if you think there is a place for me here. Then,what is the procedure? do i just 'edit' the participant list in order to join? Is there a committee who vets new participants or do we just jump in, boots and all?
::One of the reasons that the article was AFD at the time was that it lacked notability. If some of the med info in it were taken out, then wouldn't he become even less notable? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:29, 15 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


regards, Margaret Skeel, aka ] (]) 12:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
::If I was to spit out the alt med protocol info into another article, how would you suggest I avoid lots of it being deleted / attacked / or AFD?
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::In the scientist box he is said to be a physicist--right away the physicists scientists come in and say that he was never a notable physicist--for example. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:34, 15 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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From my own theories on this, the above board way that the some Wiki groups seem to do an alternative action to '''Canvasing''' is to use bot-generated lists that examine the tags within articles up for Afd. Other tags are added to the Afd discussion page (and placed in small print). The lists are probably placed on the top of the watch list for each person wanting to participate in Afd discussions of special interest types of articles. The bot might be written to organize or target the categories of the Afd articles. Certain favorite targets for contributors with a propensity for a certain kind of editing is facilitated by the category sorting that may be performed by this bot processing. So for example, if the given list watcher wishs to be voice their <s>irrational</s> opinions and <s>illogical</s> reasonings about a particular area of knowledge, they can target their efforts in a very focused way using these lists.
The obvious way to achieve identical well organized representation of the alt-med interest groups for articles within their areas of interest might well be to follow the fine examples demonstrated by others in this regard so as to <s>legally skirt the letter of the law, but obtain results as though completely disregarding it</s> avoid breaking the rules.
I found one person doing a tip-toe approach to the this issue by quickly logging out of WP so that he / she became an anonymous IP user. They then discretely visited other WP users' talk pages and left cryptic messages for them regarding a particular article that was under heated discussions.
It could well be that the well organized groups using these list processing methods had a great deal of input into the writing of the canvasing policy / guideline article so that they could point fingers at groups and individuals who were not yet at their level of sophistication in these various regards. <s>'''Are you talking about me?''' (who are you again?)</s> ] (]) 20:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome back

Hi John, may I ask why my user name is on your user page? Thanks and have a good day, --CrohnieGal 20:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. Yes, you may. It is not there now. I had copied the starting point for my user page in part from another user. -- John Gohde (talk) 23:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
Ok thanks, that's what I was thinking. My user page had helped another gather links and such when getting started. I was just curious. I hope it helped, please feel free to snag whatever you would like from there. I need them to refer to things because I forget easily so it makes things easier for me to have the list to remind me. Have a good day, happy and healthy editing, --CrohnieGal 13:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Let's shake hands

Hi John. I just want to check in with you and share some thoughts. While we obviously don't always agree on many things regarding alternative medicine, I want to reassure you that I do not have, and never have had, any intentions to improperly delete or downplay the existence of alternative medicine subjects at Misplaced Pages. They exist, and Misplaced Pages's job includes documenting the real world, including alternative medicine. You have done an amazing job at creating many things on the subject. I might not agree with some POV issues with some of them, but the basic idea of creating some of them is impressive.

The situation that occurred when you returned (related to the List of alternative medicine subjects which I started) was unfortunate. I'm sorry about that. I didn't even know that the list you had created - Index of topics in alternative medicine - existed, and I definitely had no intention of competing with it or with the Glossary of alternative medicine which you also started. The very fact that I created the list should indicate that I wasn't attempting to do any disservice to the subject, but was in fact making it more accessible to editors and readers. "Imitation is the greatest form of flattery" would apply, IF I had known about your original list. We both saw a need and were apparently thinking alike on that one! I hope we're okay and can edit together, and even when we disagree, that we can do it agreeably. -- Fyslee (talk) 03:21, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

I am inclined to believe that I was likewise correct on the areas in which we disagree on. It is fine with me. I would just like to see more favorable voting from you in the days to come. -- John Gohde (talk) 23:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Reported violations of arbitration decisions for enforcement

I have reported your actions at Orthomolecular psychiatry to WP:AE for enforcement. See this. ScienceApologist (talk) 14:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The improper notice and lack of discussion referenced by me, speaks for itself. And so does no other editor to date reversing my edit. -- John Gohde (talk) 17:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

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Generally, the next step, if an administrator feels your conduct on pages in this topic area is disruptive, would be a warning, to be followed by the imposition of sanctions (although in cases of serious disruption, the warning may be omitted). Hopefully no such action will be necessary.

This notice is only effective if given by an administrator and logged here. PhilKnight (talk) 15:44, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

medicinal clay

Hello, John,

You wrote here:

"Personally, I cannot say I am in favor of the use of Medicinal clay. Had a very negative experience with a dirt eater outside of Misplaced Pages. I have never used Medicinal clay and probably never will."

But have it ever occurred to you to use the clay externally? I'm not aware of any negative side-effects of that.

As to internal use, yes, some negative side-effects are possible, but generally because of excessive consumption.

Best regards, Dyuku (talk) 05:11, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Help with Core Synchronism redaction

Greetings John--

I am writing to you appealing to your wisdom an experience in matters probably similar to this. What would you say is the best protocol for a response in a massive deletion and debunk of the Core Synchronism article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Souljerky (talkcontribs) 17:54, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NCCAM

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introduction

Hi I am new to[REDACTED] editing and have just discovered these project groups. I am a biologist with an interest in alternative medicine. I see that this group is quite different from, say, the gastropod project... emotions don't seem to run so hot over there. Nonetheless, I would like to join this project because I believe I can make positive contributions.

My area of wiki expertise right now is the enlargement of stubs from the available research. I am dedicated to finding reliable sources of information and reporting it accurately.

I have an open mind when it comes to 'alternative medicine'. I do not accept anything blindly - I need evidence - but I do not reject new ideas out of hand as 'pseudoscience'. I believe in the scientific method but i also am suspicious of some aspects of modern medicine that seem to be controlled more by drug companies than health professionals.

On a personal level, I want to keep my body as healthy as possible using natural foods, and medicines where needed. I live a pretty 'alternative' life style in the Australian bush (solar powered home, composting, growing our own food) and have benefited from such alternative medical fields as chiropractic treatments, herbal medicines and massage. I realise that there are still snake oil salesmen out there but I also believe that many people who have been maligned as snake oil pushers are actually people who believe in their products or methods and deserve to have a voice.

Ok I don't want to go on too long but I want to know if you think there is a place for me here. Then,what is the procedure? do i just 'edit' the participant list in order to join? Is there a committee who vets new participants or do we just jump in, boots and all?

regards, Margaret Skeel, aka Reefswaggie (talk) 12:59, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Biologically based therapy

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