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Rlvese, could you please take a look at the following complain made at the SLR talk page.
. Thanks ]<sup>]</sup> 03:14, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Done.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 12:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
==New Eagle Scout==
No, I actually hadn't seen . It's been open since October 16? Wow. Shrug. Well, there's not much I can do about it, is there? Next time we sup, I'll tell you what I really think.


Have you heard of ]? ? --]&nbsp;<sup>(])</sup> 15:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
::Only heard of Cleveland from the new article on him. What's "sup"? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
*It would be great if we could get a local volunteer to get a picture of the proceedings for us on Monday so we use it in the article. BTW, I'm logging off in a couple of minutes and probably won't be back the rest of the day. --]&nbsp;<sup>(])</sup> 15:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== editing errors ==

I didnt realize I was renaming the Arbcom decision. Apparently you renamed it whilst I was editing. Please pardon, and while I'll try to edit it correctly, if an error happens, it is an error. The posting is quite slow, and there is apparently some problem informatically. Thx. ] 16:55, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== SSP advice ==

Thanks for taking a look at the SSP case and giving me some advice about it. I will open an RFCU now. I've never done one, so I was procrastinating. Thanks! ] 12:57, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:OK, I created ]. But it hasn't shown up yet in the list of requests. Just want to make sure I did it correctly. ] 19:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::You have to do . <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks! That's pretty obvious, now that you did it. Oh, I'm married, so I'll take a pass on the app. Cheers, ] 19:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
::::The app was just a pasting error ;-) <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:59, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

==]==
See this talk page ? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 01:51, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
:The author of the article, whom I suspect COI is the same guy, but doesn't seem overly selfaggrandizing, listed this one on list of Scouts. I have no way to confirm one way or another, and am not married to the tag being on there. ] 02:10, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::taking it away. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 02:12, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

== Followup to ] Socks ==

Hi, looks like my suspicions and your advice to act further on them were both justified: . The only stale logged-in account was indef blocked anyway, ]. So, thank you very much for your assistance. And is there anything else I need to do to follow up on this? I looked at the templates to place on user pages, etc, and it looks like they get put on by the blocking admin, so I left it alone. Let me know. ] 22:35, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
::I'll wrap it up. Just let us know if you find more. 00:54, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hey dear, I wanted to let you know that Alison requested that I file a RFCU after I found a disturbing pattern, so I did, and no clerks were around to transclude it onto the page, but she was working on the case, so I went ahead and did that. I'm not stepping on any toes, I hope, and I did check with her to check it after I was done, so I did it right, lol. On an unrelated note, there is an entry for Daniel575, which for some reason will not link to the subpage, although I fixed the entry as the submitter did not put the time/date submitted info. I'm not sure if it has to do with the fact that the entry was submitted into a page that was previously closed, but it is something I'd be curious to know, once you get home if you have a chance to look at it, and see what is wrong. <small>]]]</small> 00:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
::No problem. The cases that had prior submissions don't click from the RFCU page for some reason.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 01:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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== ] ==

Hi! Good work on clerking :). Just a quick note on this case: apparently you archived it, but you forgot to add it to at ]! Can you check the other cases you archived to see if you did it? That's very helpful when a username seems familiar, so you can look up other CU on him. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 09:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks, I try to be very diligent and thorough; did not find others I missed. I goofed this one, sorry, thanks for fixing it.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 10:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
::Don't worry, we all screw up these once in a while. I've archived a case that was run 4 times without any archival, yesterday.
::(Re: Archive) To be honest I haven't understood what you meant! Usually I try to move the cases to the completed/declined once the CU replied (if there is no further question). If there is nothing more to be done, I archive then 2-4 days later (depending on the amount of cases that are waiting for archival). The only time I archive immediately is when there are 2 runs against the same user, and that one is completed. That way there is only 1 case showing up in the list (I'm not sure it's a good idea though, but that's the lesser of 2 evils IMO).
::Just a note, because I saw that you were sometimes commenting on the cases: Personally I try to avoid that (except the usual "reformatted", "user blocked", "diffs needed" stuff). The idea is to appear as neutral as possible, and let the CU handle the rest. I remember delisting bogus cases once or twice, but only where there is no information. I don't comment on the fact that the CU will run a check or not (] is bogus, but I listed it, for example). But since you're quite knowledgable in the ] area, I think you should comment when you have more information, but not as a clerk to avoid any confusion. -- ] <sup>]</sup> 11:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
::See . <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:10, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ooow, ok. You should list all the suspects, in fact. I know this sounds weird, but we archive all cases regardless of the result, and we follow the same logic on cases with mixed results. Yeah I know your work on SSP, I was commenting on ] in fact. But as I said, I'm cool with comments from knowledgeable people, IMO they shouldn't be "officially" {{tl|clerknote}}ed templated. (And good call on stating that you blocked the socks, I usually don't block, because I got slapped once. But I'm going to do that again). -- ] <sup>]</sup> 11:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

==Valboy1672==
Valboy1672 good for them but what the has that got to do with me] (]) 18:11, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:You were named in the case, so I was just letting you know, just in case. That's all.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== A quick question ==

I see you created ] but haven't populated it. It was found in uncategorized categories (the "orphanage") and I'll put a parent cat to it. Was this was inadvertant? You should consider populating it or deleting it. Cheers, ] (]) 20:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
:Just whacked it, it's empty as MoreGunsInSchools is the master, not him. Tks.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Thanks ==
First, I would like to thank you for your nice warnings and block you have given me. It really serves to help me put the flame in the right direction. Second, since people decided to provoke me a lot of articles are going to be created in the latter part of December. As is the case with all the articles I have created, I would kindly ask you to keep an eye out on the new articles. Again thanks and cheers :) ] (]) 23:34, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

== Request for Review of GAC ] ==

Hi. I read about you in ], interested in "everything". Would you please review ] ]? The article is about the Goddess oriented sect in ]. Thanks.--] (]) 14:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
:First, foontnotes come after punctuation, not before, and there's a space after the fn, before the next word. Several of wrong, such as around FNs 28-30. The web footnotes need formatted, see cite web template ] for samples. When done, let me know and I'll look deeper.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 15:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

==Open proxy==
You closed my SSP case where I was trying to root out the master of EdChampion due to the master being an open proxy. This is over my head. Does that mean it is impoosible that the abusive blocked account is connected to the other three disruptive accounts? -- ] (]) 18:06, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::I've protected the article from IP editing, that should force him to use his account and we can see what he's up to. This is more edit dispute vice vandalism. You could also file at RFCU to see if the other IPs can get blocked or contact ] to see if the other IPs you listed are proxies too, he blocked the one you listed as the master. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:00, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

:::I'm not easy with ] being semi-protected for 3 months. There haven't been all that many anonymous edits in recent weeks and EdChampion hasn't been especially active either. With all due respect, this all smells rather like "sleuthing". Probably best not to go down that route. If EdChampion disrupts the article again, then a user-conduct RfC would be in order. ] ] 22:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
::::What if I shorten the page protect? Are you amenable to that? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::That would be fine. I'd prefer weeks to months, but I'll leave it to you. ] ] 00:20, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
I changed it to a month. Seems reasonable to me. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

What Angus said is true. EdChampion is mostly just an obnixious pain on the talk page. I doubt even he really expects to ever see his proposed edit appear in the article at this point, he just wont give up. As for "sleuthing", there is no way that EdChampion belongs to an editor who made his first edit to Misplaced Pages last August and has exclusively edited Edmund the Martyr. The account belongs to a user with multiple accounts and given his attitude the last few months, he almost certainly has one or more blocked accounts. There is no reason not to connect the dots if we can. -- ] (]) 03:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::So who's the master account that Ed is supposed to be a sock of? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 04:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

:This diff is quite plausable: ]

Obnoxious, vulgar, rude, and unneeded capitalization. It would also explain why my user page keeps getting vandalized by an IP that edits only hard rock and roll articles even though I have never once set foot into such territory. I still don't get why the master I proposed could not be connected to ol' Ed. Can you point me to a tutorial on open proxies, I want to read up them? Thank you for everything you do here. -- ] (]) 04:28, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:The IP you listed as the master, 85.189.170.202, has no edits to the Edmund article, which is what I thought this whole case is about. See ] for proxy info. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 04:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

:Of course not, that is what the puppets are for. -- ] (]) 04:38, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
::Using that, anyone could be a sock of anyone.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Not everyone has an account that only edits one article. It isn't like this guy is a model editor who has a POV disagreement with us. He may as well have chosen as his user name ]. -- ] (]) 23:50, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

As mentioned above, the ] page has had very little (if any) IP vandalism so I don't know why it has been protected. Secisek's retaliatory motives become clear when you read . To address some of his detractions: there is a dispute on the talk page that has yet to be resoved. Consensus doesn't mean majority, particularly given the tiny number of editors. At the time of Secisek's writing the RfC was still on going and certainly hasn't resulted in going against me, rather it complements what I had previously written. I could go on but it's complete nonsense and I'm bored. ] (]) 18:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

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I'm sure this will be of interest: ] has been undeleted per ]. &mdash; ] (]) 16:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
:Hmmm. Good summary by closing admin. I'm sure it'll get CFD'd again though.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 16:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

===Fictional Eagle Scouts===
This is just to inform the closer of the CfD and DRV on the Eagle Scout catgegories that per a discussion at ScoutingWikiProject, there is a unanimous decision to get rid of this category, so I've just removed it from the articles therein and deleted the category.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for the notice. - ] 01:23, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

I've left a ridiculously long comment, as you requested via email. My conclusion is that Evrik should not be blocked, but I cannot clear him of suspicion either. ] (] • ]) 06:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
::Wow, amazingly detailed and perceptive work. Thanks for looking into it spending the time on it. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 13:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

== Continued edit warring at ] ==

Things haven't improved much since you . I've tried by using the Dispute Resolution process and extensive talk page discussion to move things away from edit war mode. But the snail's pace of that approach doesn't seem to satisfy the passion of the edit warriors. Any help or advice you can lend would be appreciated. ] (]) 17:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:Left a note on the talk page. Let me know what a big issues comes. I don't watch that page.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
:: Special protection to block the IP's would be preferable, as they are most likely another incarnation of ]. ] (]) 01:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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== Question ==

What happened to ]? She vanished? I don't get it. Did she quit or something? ]<sup>]</sup> 20:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
::She had to vanish under ], but she's quite fine and safe.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:07, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

== Silver Star discussion ==

As you were instrumental in making the ] article an FA, you might be interested in providing your thoughts on a discussion that I started on the ] talk page on ] of Silver Star recipients. &mdash; ] (]) 01:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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== Episodes and characters ==

Hi. I see you're the new clerk for this case. Could you please see my comment ? Any comment you care to offer about how discussions on the workshop page connect to the Proposed decision page would be appreciated. Cheers, ] 13:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Follow-up: Please see also: ] and the edits I then went ahead and made to the Workshop page that brought-over stuff from the Proposed decision page. I believe I did everything correctly but welcome a double-check. If this sort of bold editing is not welcome/making work for you, just say so and I'll go easier. Best, ] 17:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::See response <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::: Thanks, I was just reading it. Hope no one minds edit I made. --] 21:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
::::That is the correct move, as he is not an arb nor clerk, he should not edit the proposed decisions, moving to talk was the correct action.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

::::: Thanks. My concern was that ''technically'' *I* also made an edit to the page. I'm glad to see that the correctness matters and the technicality does not. I was in the middle of copying bits to the Workshop page when this happened - had the Proposed decision page open for editing. I was worried the whole while that I might goof and save the Workshop page into the Proposed decision page (I was copy-pasting to/from an external editor). Cheers, ] 22:18, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Honorary membership ==
I am pleased to announce you that you have been accepted as an honorary member of ]. &mdash; ] 19:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Another quick question==
] also created by you and also empty. Please review at your convenience. Cheers, ] (]) 22:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

==Yogi==
] states: "''...Our Misplaced Pages community has by experience developed an informal hierarchy of core principles —'''the most important being that articles be written with a neutral point of view'''. '''After that''' we request a reasonable degree of civility towards others..."'' Note that the comments I made were factual and in response to a single purpose, anon advocacy editor's POV assertion that Maharishi deserves "...great deal of respect for what he has done and is still doing 24/7 since 1955 - to bring the peace of the Himalayas to all mankind". MMY's claims and TM's belief (see ]) in a "Maharishi Effect" producing peace and harmony in surrounding areas and attempts to produce a cadre of yogic flyers ("...Proponents of Yogic Flying claim that world peace and many other social and environmental benefits can be generated by having at least seven thousand yogic flyers around the world hopping at the same time...") has not produced increased world peace and harmony or yogic flight as was predicted. Maharishi is not widely recognized as a scientist, a physicist, or as a key leader in the world peace movement outside of his organization either, TM is his claim to fame, just as I stated. It is hardly a personal attack to note that Misplaced Pages offering MMY a great deal of respect for his merely alleged efforts to "bring the peace of the Himalayas to all mankind" represents undue weight for fringe claims and a very minority opinion and that the editing history creates a reasonable conclusion of COI.--] (]) 02:39, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

== RE:Admin Coaching ==

Hey Rlevse, thanks for contacting me over the admin coaching request. Yes, I had two other accounts, both you mention, but they were me older accounts or in other words, I had Radio_orange (dont ask:)) but was then to Onnaghar and then once again to Rudget. I'll create that ], and I once again want to say thank you for "taking me onboard". Regards, &mdash; ] <sub>]</sub> 12:07, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:I've left the comments ] just now. Thanks once again. &mdash; ] <sub>]</sub> 13:00, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::I'm editing the subpage now, it'll take several minutes for this first round. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 13:10, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::On Q7, are you referring to general off-wiki conversations or ones specifically about a user inparticular? &mdash; ] <sub>]</sub> 14:03, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Both, let's me thorough.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 14:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm sorry about the email thing, it's just I am unwilling to disclose my specific age. &mdash; ] <sub>]</sub> 15:15, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::::<s>Hmm...I'm going on a long wiki-break. I really need to get away, and I've done enough edits this month. Thank you once again, and I look forward to interacting with you further, by email or in early January. Regards, ]] 18:37, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::::::::Will do. I apologise for any inconvenience. ]] 18:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)</s>
:(unindent) - Ah what the hell. I'll carry on, in the name of Wiki-spirit. Hope we can get back to usual. And once again I apologise if this has caused '''lots''' of inconvenience. Best, ]] 17:00, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

::Does that seem to show the kind of balance required of a potential administrator? --] (]) 22:26, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Beh-nam ==

NisarKand was banned for a very good reason. He wrote several long racist rants to other users and admins. NisarKand also uploaded images with false licenses and also used fake referencing. Beh-nam on the other hand was banned for no good reason, he was falsely accused of proxy editing and banned for it but really it was just that ] didn't like him because Beh-nam reported a friend of Thatcher131 for sockpuppetry which was confirmed. Considering this, Beh-nam shouldn't even be banned right now. And he has contacted ArbCom but his emails are ignored. What else can Beh-nam do?

== Thanks ==

Thank you for your comment. Broadway14122 is not my sockpuppet but I do agree that there is no chance the user is new to Misplaced Pages ]]] 17:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:ok. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 17:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== speedy deletion problem ==

Sorry to bother you but since you are active can you delete ] because it is not being categorized ]]] 18:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::No problem, gone. Why did you turn down RFA? <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:07, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I think I am too new I might accept a RFA sometime in February when I am more experienced user ]]] 18:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
::::Let me know when ready for nom. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:14, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::Will do. Probably will be sometime in February ]]] 18:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks, and I do like the pictures.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)


== Admin coaching ==

Hi, I noticed that you are currently offering up your help as an Admin Coach. I understand personally I am a long way off, both by edit count and experience, but I am wondering if you would be willing to give me some pointers and perhaps help me further my goal nearer an RfA. A lot of the things I contribute to could be done better with administrative tools and getting them would be a real boost to what I can do to further my work here. Thanks for your time, please respond on my talk page if possible. <b><font color="FF00FF">]</font><sup><font color="9900CC">]</font></sup></b> 22:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
* Thanks very much. I'm currently working on removing a lot of the AFC backlog though I will definitely consider and look into the other areas you have suggested. I'm also a spelling and vandalism 'nazi' as you have probably seen and am currently waiting for VandalProof approval. Again, thanks. <b><font color="FF00FF">]</font><sup><font color="9900CC">]</font></sup></b> 22:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

== Fleur-de-lis ==

Could you check/verify at ]? ] 04:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::Rv'd to prior edit war version, semi-prot, it is also elaborated on in ]. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Er, there wasn't any edit war, and this didn't need protection, and especially not for a month. This was just a content check so I could determine whether the anon's content should be disentangled from POV and kept. ] 14:40, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::::OK, I've unprot it and as far as content, I think the version I rv'd to is fine. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 16:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

==Coker and ''Hearts and Minds''==
You removed a reliably sourced mention of '']'' in the ] article citing claims of ] issue. I find the removal a bit baffling and have offered this as a subject for discussion at ]. Your input justifying the removal of sourced content from an article is requested. ] (]) 05:25, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
::See the talk page. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 10:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

== Diffs ==

Contact JetLover. It was his original report on ]. I just Put it on SSP's. Ps, someone added a diff. <span style="color:#bfbfff">''']'''</span> '''<sup>(]/])</sup>''' 02:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

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== Rejected RFAR's ==

Hi. Just curious - on the ] page, are you only adding yours? Or are you keeping it up to date in general? I was going to stop maintaining it thinking that you were instead, but if you're only adding your own, I will continue. Thanks. —] (]) 20:02, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
::I do my own and the ones I notice others don't do, like Brad didn't archive two today, so I posted them there. I think it's important we do this, though I know many aren't done. Appreciate it if you and whoever help. Thanks.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

== Apparent sock puppet, suggested action? ==

Rlevse, you closed the report for a suspected sock at . As you know, RFCU returned a finding that the editor was not related to Nrcprm2026, which was always known to be a speculative identification of the puppet master. However, there is blatant and arguably abusive sock puppetry from the account behavior; the alleged sock has not denied being a sock, only being Nrcprm2026. Your comment was that the sock puppetry was "possible." I'd say the evidence shows "probable," indeed, I am unable to find any other explanation for the account behavior (immediate engagement in AfD within minutes of registration, SSP -- voting system issues only --, almost no content edits, very many AfDs and deletion/redirects). Given my so far uncontradicted conclusion that the account in question is a sock, and that the behavior is inappropriate for a sock, how should I proceed to obtain a determination on the issue of ] violation rather than being a sock of a specific banned editor? From examination of other SSP incidents, I'd expected some determination on this for the original report. Should I go to ]? I'm trying not to escalate this beyond necessity, going one step at a time. Thanks. --] (]) 18:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Since not Nrcprm, do you have any other probable sock masters? Will look at more tonight.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:57, 19 December 2007 (UTC)...I've contacted another admin and asked for input. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I have taken a look at the SSP report and the CU reports pertinent to this case at the request of ]. It seems difficult to me to have a sockpuppet without a puppeteer. The CU makes plain that ] is not the same as ]. So we are left with only suspicious editing patterns and no second account to compare it to. A first edit at AfD is not terribly unusual for a new account. An editor may have a second account so long as he is not disruptive with that account. The user could be an ip editor who decided to register or an established editor who decided to create and edit, for whatever reason, under a new name. He could, perhaps, be an editor who is a sock. We just cannot tell from the available information. It does not appear that Yellow has done anything worthy of serious warning or blocking. Sometimes he is right, sometimes he is wrong, but he does not appear to be disruptive.
:::It is my judgment that ] begin the dispute resolution process immediately. While he acted in good faith in filing what he thought was a SSP case, it was, at best, unclear and unactionable. Absent any further evidence to the contrary, I would leave the sock allegations alone and move to ]. If I have overlooked anything concrete, please do not hesitate to ask again. -]<sub>]</sub> 22:42, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::::I'm concurring with JodyB, the DR process seems best approach here if you wish to pursue it.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 23:05, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

:::::I have the impression that ] started this RFCU in the hope that he could get private information about me. ] always admitted that there are no reasons to believe that I was a sock puppet of Nrcprm2026. This time, ]'s ] to get private information about me failed; but his ] was a progress insofar as the admin fulfilled ]'s request without checking his arguments. (Already in March 2007, ] tried to get private information about me . But his request was simply ignored by the admin.) I predict that ] will start a new RFCU in the hope that the next admin will be less cautious than the other two admins. ] (]) 11:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Even if a RFCU is run, the private info would not be revealed to him.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 12:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure he knows that. He may not be Nrcprm2026 (or Nrcprm2026 has become more sophisticated), but this is an experienced editor, and the edit above one more piece of evidence for ensuing process. The SSP report was an obvious first step which would have made further process, involving more editors and administrators, moot, and the RFCU was filed at the explicit request of Rlevse; and, if Yellowbeard is paying any attention at all, he already knows all this. There is no emergency here, I'm taking this one step at a time. The next steps involve wider community involvement, and I certainly hope that all the evidence is examined carefully! I'm also certain that if I make mistakes, they will be pointed out to me, as they should be. In any case, thanks to Rlevse and Jody B for the time they have put into this, it is appreciated. --] (]) 17:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== put SERIO page back please ==

To Whom It May Concern:
It has been brought to our attention at Serio Controla Records from one of our web developers here that you wish to delete our artist page of Serio. We at our company do not intend to mislead or vandalize your website which has been said that we have done nor is this a promotion. This page like many other rappers pages on your site was made in the guidelines of your policy. If you feel that the article was not please let us know what changes you want and we will make them. However to say that it is incorrect is false you have a rappers page on there Kid Frost or Frost(rapper) our artist recently did a song with Frost that will be released latter this year. Serio is very known yet very new we understand this here are just of few of the places you can find info about him on the web as a chance to help your investigation to prove who he is: If you have any questions you can respond to the e-mail or feel free to give me a call at 509-475-2561 you are free to call 24/7 if no one answers please leave a message and your call will be returned ASAP thank you and take a look at some of these links.
Check out just a few places where he is at on the web there are more too…Such as Napster Itunes ect..
http://www.myspace.com/serio323
http://www.myspace.com/serio12
http://www.myspace.com/serio5
http://cdbaby.com/cd/seriomusic
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=SERIOofficialsite
http://www.groupietunes.com/artists/serio
http://www.tradebit.com/filedetail.php/1499330
http://www.greatindie.com/ipnmusic/store/list.php?item_number=837101154482
http://musicishere.com/artists/SERIO/Nightmares_Turned_Into_Reality
http://www.bitmunk.com/view/media/6549334
http://payplay.fm/seriomusic
http://chondo.net/cnd/viewAlbums.do?albumId=20170 <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 18:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

* It appears that the above user is a sockpuppet of ] and I have tagged the page as such, haven't done anything else yet. Needs to be blocked yet again, but I'm not an admin. See http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Pharmboy&diff=prev&oldid=179001922 for the same message as above, sent to me. ] (]) 19:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Someone has already blocked him for 31 hours. Let me know if the problems continue after that. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:51, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
:::That is an old block for deleting tags and such, it has expired. He left you and I the letters the moment that block expired, which led to me to leaving the open letter to him after the old block. Not sure a block would be appropriate right now as he has only left two letters to you and I, but I have faith he will provide a reason shortly. ] (]) 19:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::Oh, yea, it expired two days ago. I've now hard blocked 72hrs for socking and disruption. Let me know if you see more thereafter.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:56, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
::: On my user page I list the known Serio accounts, including the two IPs, ] and ] (left an open letter to Serio there), plus the puppetmaster ] (blocked) and his second, ] (blocked) ] (]) 20:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

== your note to NYBrad ==

Hi, my watchlist just showed my that you seem to have inadvertently posted to his user page instead of his talk page... --] 11:08, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:oops, thanks, fixed.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 11:10, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:: You're welcome. Could you look at something for me? See ] — the latter posts — and consider protecting ] and ]. This has also been listed at ] to no effect. --] 11:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I just saw your ani post. --] 11:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

: Sorry to bother you again, but now my talk page is being vandalized . Could you semi protect it and my user page for 24 hours? --] 11:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Someone else already did.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 12:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

==Natalee Holloway==
Did you mean to close the discussion on AfD on Natalee Holloway? Your note indicated that you did, but it seems to remain open. Thanks and happy holidays.--] (]) 16:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:No I did not mean to close it, just notate the socking.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 18:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Arbclerking ==

Can you close the Physchim62 case today if Anthony doesn't get to it? It's a couple of days overdue to close and I have limited wikitime at the moment. Thanks, ] (]) 16:58, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:Never mind, looks like AGK is doing it now. ] (]) 17:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

==RFA?==
Hey Rlevse. I know I've not had time to answer all the questions, but I've now received two co-nomination offers in the past 5 days. What should I do? Accept? or Carry on with the admin coaching? I hope you don't see this as a shift of decision, but seen as you're an admin and have been here longer than me, you may have a better idea of what to do. Regards, ]] 18:26, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::I think if you an RFA now, you'll be piled on for it being too early. I suggest finishing the questions and we work on those issues.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Ditto. If they want to, Ioeth and Phoenix-wiki can co-nom later. Thanks once again. Best, ]] 19:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

==Ulterior motives==

The ulterior motives of various fringe-promoters are clear and have been documented in said arbcomm case. ] (]) 20:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

:Also, is an indication that you are singling me out for some reason? How did you come upon this supposed "violation" in the first place and why did you decide that you were going to get into arbcomm enforcement when you admit that you haven't done it before? Do you have something against me? ] (]) 20:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::I'm a new arbcom clerk helper, as evidenced by ] on my talk page.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:::Still, it doesn't explain why you singled me out. Are you patrolling my edits? ] (]) 22:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

For what it's worth, ''any administrator'' (unless directly involved in the dispute himself or herself) has jurisdiction to enforce arbitration decisions, on his or her own initiative if necessary. There is no direct relation between the enforcement function and the clerking function, although it often happens that the same admins tend to handle both because they are the ones with their eyes on the arbitration pages and who are aware of the decisions as they come down. If an issue arises concerning an enforcement ruling, ] will often be the best venue for gathering additional comments (although often there is usually a shortage of admins putting in time watching that board). Hope this is helpful to all. ] (]) 21:50, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::Not to mention the arbcom ruling on Martin was different than yours, SA. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 21:52, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
:::I know that, why did you address this to me? ] (]) 22:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== My AN/I ==
I would appreciate your input on what became an AN/I against me: ]. If you have any comments for me, please feel free to leave me a note on my talk page or comment directly on the AN/I if you have general thoughts. Thanks! -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">]</font></sup> 22:33, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::Was I involved in anyway?<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 22:35, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
::: Not that I know of. That's why I am seeking your third-party input. -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">]</font></sup> 22:39, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== B9 hummingbird hovering ==

Thank you very much for your direction on my talk page.<br />
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<font color="Green">]</font><sup> (] • ])</sup> 23:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

== Blue box change ==
Hello Rlevse, could I ask you to do your AWB trick jut one more time and replace the blue box with <nowiki>{{WP:SLR/bluebox}}</nowiki>? Or, if that's too much of an effort, could you explain to me how you did it? Thanks! &mdash; ] 23:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
::If you don't have AWB, download it ], start it. Load the articles you want to alter into it (by category is fastest), use the find/replace tool to change what you want. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I've never used it before, so excuse me if some of what I'm asking sounds stupid. But how do I make sure that I get all the articles on which you put the box? Do you have a list of the categories you used, and would that cover all of them? &mdash; ] 00:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
::I made the list from the peace resolution decision, where it says include "these articles, these cats (make sure ot get the sub cats), etc". <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:37, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I can take it from there! I just installed AWB, and it seems pretty straightforward. &mdash; ] 00:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC) {{User:SebastianHelm/unwatched}}

==Anoshirawan==
Sorry but this is very long, can you please see recent edits of ], he is a proven vandal, removing page protection (that admins placed) plus images from ] article over and over. Why are his destructive actions ignored? It was already concluded not to change the word "Afghan" to "Afghanistani" in July 2007 (see ]) but Anoshirawan keeps on changing the name to fake "Afghanistani" as well as removing clean images from the article. Why are there images allowed at ], ], ], ], and many others but he wants to only remove the imiages from Afghan American article. It's probably that administrators are afraid to block anoshirawan or probably they are supporting him to vandalis pages. Anoshirawan already has a long block log , shows that his character is not of a good editor, he should behave, he was also warned of his actions many times but he removed many of those warning from his talk page.

Next, on ] article, I've placed 4 major sources (including the ] and encyclopedia ]) as reference that Ahmad Shah Durrani is known as the founder or first ] of modern Afghanistan. , , , (also see ]) This is very well known fact in Afghanistan as well as in all parts of the world. Anoshirawan claims that he was not all of that but a ruler of ], which is a province in Iran. This is like someone trying to say that ] was not the first President or founder of the United States but that he was a ruler of Washington or something like that. Anoshirawan is self POV pusher, not a nuetral editor like most of us. The things he claims don't make any sense to anyone that's why everyone is reverting his vandalism so that makes him upset. He also has a bad habit of removing images from the Ahmad Shah Durrani article, If you can also fully protect the Ahmad Shah Durrani article, that will help Anoshirawan go find another hobby instead of coming here vandalising pages. I believe Anoshirawan should be banned from editing, not a single of his edit is constructive, they are all vandalisms.] (]) 02:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:You guys are in an SSP case. Comment there if you wish. Report vandalism to ]. I'll warn him on rm of the protection tag.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 02:40, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

==Fair use rationale for ]==
]
Thanks for uploading or contributing to ''']'''. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under ] but there is no ] as to why its use in Misplaced Pages articles constitutes fair use.
:{{done}} - R, feel free to modify it if you would like. <small>]]]</small> 17:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks Ariel! I think that was the first image I ever uploaded, over two years ago.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 17:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)


==Excuse me, sir or madam==
I used to know a user. She was a good friend of mine. Her name was Neranei. When, I wanted to talk to her, I noticed her user page, talk page, and contributions were all gone. I saw your name on the page history and I wanted to ask you if you knew what happened to her--] (]) 19:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
:She is still around but used her ]. She is fine and doing well.<span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 19:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
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== ? ==

] ]] 11:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:I just wanted to say thanks once again for doing this. It's really giving some more knowledge about the workings, and I'm sure it will help me further my contributions. I'm sorry if I've not been the greatest coachee (i.e. failed wikibreaks, infrequent editing to the AC page etc.) but I just want to say thank you. Hope you had a great christmas. Regards, ]] 21:20, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

== ....happy holidays ==

Hey Rlevse, just letting you know, the sig the xmas card you've been handing around doesn't link to you ;-) ] 12:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:Perfect :-) Have a great day Rlevse, I wish you and your family the best. ] 12:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Happy holidays to you too! :-) ''']''' '''<small>]</small>''' 16:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, and happy holidays to you as well! ] 17:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
:Happy holidays! ''']''' 07:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

== Suspected sock puppet ==

Hi, regarding ], as I said under "Comments" you have to check the deleted edits to see what the request-filer was talking about. However, I do think you were right to say "not much to do here" as it seems far more likely to be just an anon with a dynamic IP address than a case of abusive sockpuppetry. —]] <sup>]</sup> 00:07, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
::Ah I missed the deleted contribs, thanks. I gave both IPs a short block for of 48 hours for vandalism, it may not do much good, but then it might. As they are dynamic, I can't justify much more. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:15, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

== ], and concern from a new user ==

hi, so I read an old wikipedia article on the ] some of the old material was very interesting so I decided to read a little about it. When I came back, as a new user, I wanted to cite some source material that I read and found the material reverted. ] reverted most of the material, and I spent some time reading and looking at what was reverted and I think I understand why. The reverted material was speculative, uncited in areas, and really bordering on psuedoscience. Despite that I feel the content has value, especially since I can now cite where the hypothetical futures content comes from. See Michaelbusch's(]) page.

So the reason I'm contacting you... well I'm try to do this right, and apologize if I'm handling it incorrectly, please let me know if I am. What I did, was I looked at more of the history revisions, and left a message on ]'s talk page, and while on his user page read some of his other contributions and more about him.

He's very interested in factual and confirmable information, which I think is great. But I also think the entire wikipedia project is a work in progress.... especially concerning some of the fringe articles like the Kardashev scale. I think it's important that interest in fringe articles and wikipedia be encouraged. Bottom line... it's easy to delete... it's hard to add and contribute content, and it can be extra hard to do it correctly especially concerning articles like the ]. Personally, I rather have something slapped with a 'needs citations' or 'speculative' sticker than be deleted outright.

When I realized he'd already received a warning from you concerning his interactions with others, I became concerned that I would be blown over as a new user and that my wish to reinstate material would be ignored.... I do not want to be ignored, and I don't want to be blown over... I realize you must be busy, but if I could insert a third perspective into whatever changes, or compromises are going to be made on the ] I figured, I should do it now.--] (]) 13:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

p.s. I wish to apologize for my over-use of the words ''especially'' and ''concern(ing)''.

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==Okay, I'll bite==

First of all, are you ] my contributions? If no, how the hell did you come across ? I have never seen you contribute at ] and a quick check of your contributions shows that you have never done so.

Secondly, can you cite, chapter and verse, what part of ] guideline you are referring to with your comment about "incivil language"? While you're doing this, note that ].

Thirdly, this is the second time you have popped over to my talkpage to make a nusiance of yourself. I have asked you before if you have anything against me and you evaded the quesiton. You are an administrator which means that you have the power to administer blocks when you deem necessary. I suggest that you take this as fair warning that I consider your attempts to offer "guidance" as ] and borderline ] since the threat of blocking has been leveled by you before. I will not hesitate to bring this to the attention of others.

In short, I think you need to find another "project" with which to occupy your time.


== Arbitration case request declined ==
Peace,


An arbitration case request in which you were named as a party has been withdrawn, and that withdrawal has been accepted by the Arbitration Committee. The arbitrators views on hearing this matter, found , may be useful. For the arbitration committee,--]] 12:46, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
] (]) 15:06, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

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