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I am here for some very limited purposes, because some people have asked me to help in some specific cases. I am prepared to do this. I am not intending to be here much, at present. I have not yet decided whether to start using this account actively again. No, I don't want to talk about any of the foregoing, thanks, the people concerned know who they are and how to get hold of me. This is about some ongoing unresolved issues being discussed on one or more mailing lists, when that debate comes to fruition I will take a view. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 12:45, 18 October 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Hi ]! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ]<sup><small><b>] ]</b></small></sup> 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
:I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year ]] 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
Besides the 3RR and QW talkpage is there a page where the length of the page protection is discussed? The last 'indefinite' block ended in three days, before consensus was reached. ] (]) 12:45, 28 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
Any chance you can help me here? ] (]) 13:35, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::October JzG sighting at ]. Does my heart good. --] (]) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using ], and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020. | |||
::::I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am. | |||
::::I thought I'd drop in :-) ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! ] (]) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::Glad you dropped by! ] (]) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. ]] 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::::If Guy doesn't look at ] real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - ]the ] 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::::I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. ''']''' <small>(] - ])</small> 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::::::Very happy see the little JzG! ] ] ] 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC). | |||
:::::Hah! Good to see you're still around! ] 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::::This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. ''']] (])''' 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature ]. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, ] <sup><b>(])</b></sup> 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
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== Administrators' newsletter – January 2025 == | |||
Please see the discussion at ]. ] (]) 15:10, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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* It might have been an appropriate use of user space if it were the space of an editor with a reputation for neutrality, but this editor has a reputation for the opposite. Much better to use {{tl|editprotected}} or simply request unprotection. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::Would you please paste the code that I inserted into the draft, into the article talk page, so that I do not have to reconstruct it from scratch? Thanks.] (]) 20:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::Reconstruct away -- it'll keep you out of trouble for a bit. ] 20:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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I noticed your comments to Ferrylodge (this must be getting old) regarding my deleting of what are POV images. Please see my comments regarding Ferrylodge's bold-faced attempt to add POV images to the article. I must commend him on his subtlety in attempting this, but it is clear that the images are used to make the fetus more human-like, and therefore, the casual observer might think, "Abortion is evil, because this is obviously a human." If this project is to be NPOV, then let's put images that are used in medical education (of course, let's remember, I'm medically educated). ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 22:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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* I am a Christian but not completely opposed to abortion, I supported David Alton's bill to reduce the date for terminations due to the fact that 24 week premature infants can now be saved, but I do not hold to the "human from the moment of conception" view. My opinion is that the images are acceptable, tey are no different to the images in our old books from when my wife was pregnant. I would let it go, but work very carefully on the surrounding text and sources. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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**I'm going with your recommendation here, but if other editors agree my NPOV on the images, I'm going to stand up to Ferrylodge. I am not a Christian (as is well known) and I have a completely private view on abortion. I think that Creationism and Homeopathy is a load of crap, but Abortion is something I keep to myself. Believe it or not, if there is one article for which I will be completely neutral, it would be something like ]. I have no agenda there. ] <small><sup>] ]</sup></small> 00:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Apparently, I screwed up when I asked {{ipvandal|67.135.49.177}} if he plans to constructively edit any pages after his block expires. He's now editing at ], making the same complaints as usual. I placed a rangeblock on 67.135.48.0/23, which went over like a lead balloon (see ]). There's some discussion there and some questions about why he was blocked in the first place. I removed the rangeblock and the protections I put on the talk pages earlier, but there's an unblock request at ]. I don't know if you want to provide some explanation, but I figured you might want to at least know about it. | |||
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It looks like I've caused the interpersonal fiasco that I knew I'd cause right after Christmas. Good going on my part. --] <sup>]</sup> 07:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* Following ], ] was adopted as a ]. | |||
* Not to worry, the world continues to turn (and Jinxmchue continues to be a problem, which will eventually be resolved one way or another). <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 10:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* A ] is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space. | |||
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* The Nuke feature also now ] to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions. | |||
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== Sockpuppetry == | |||
* Following the ], the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: {{noping|CaptainEek}}, {{noping|Daniel}}, {{noping|Elli}}, {{noping|KrakatoaKatie}}, {{noping|Liz}}, {{noping|Primefac}}, {{noping|ScottishFinnishRadish}}, {{noping|Theleekycauldron}}, {{noping|Worm That Turned}}. | |||
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In case no one has dealt with it, see ]. ] (]) 16:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* A ] is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the ]. ] | |||
* Looks to be dealt with for now, but not a good sign. I suspect this person may need to be politely but firmly shown the door. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 16:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:: I suspect you can imagine ;-) <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 21:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== John Gohde 2 == | |||
I should probably participate in some way, as I spent considerable amount of time trying to get him to change his behavior, especially in Talk:Complementary and alternative medicine. Thoughts? --] (]) 19:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* Please do, the more thoughtful input the better. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== WP:UNCLE-G-IS-ALWAYS-RIGHT == | |||
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a) Why does that need a WP shortcut? | |||
b) Why doesn't it exist? | |||
''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 19:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
* Well, yes, it is both obvious and yet, perversely, absent. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 19:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
*:What I meant was the redirect would just be, in the end, a capitalisation redriect. No need to have a WP: shortcut then. ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 22:49, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
::* OIC. So we should have a policy ] reflecting the consensus position. Yes, I can see that. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 22:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::*How about a redirect to ]? I was going to be bold and create the redirect, but then I thought it would seem patronising to say this in AfD discussions, it would be best to use the direct link and add sensible comments. And anyway, we all get things wrong sometimes. ] (]) 23:01, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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:Eek. In the Chinese culture, such an award means somebody wishes you grave ill will. But I suppose it's better than a turtle, which means your wife is fooling around on you. ] (]) 21:48, 31 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Souveneiring == | |||
Hi, Guy. Please see my reply at ]. ] (]) 01:19, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
* Thanks. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 11:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Bleep == | |||
Hi, Guy. I think your revision to the lead satisfied my concerns. It's much better than the sentence that was replaced. Thanks much. ] (]) 12:43, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Some good practice == | |||
Hi, and happy New Year! Just one quick thing - in , you used rollback in a case where an explanation of the action was probably due. Your rationale on the TfD was good, but please keep in mind that rollbacks are like slaps in the face when used against established editors - in this case it would have been prudent to use the non-admin undo function instead so that you could leave a summary, especially given that you !voted in the TfD in a manner opposing the user you reverted. | |||
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Respectfully yours, ]<sup>'''{'''<span class="plainlinks">].</span>'''}'''</sup> 14:20, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
* I clicked the admin rollback instead of the Twinkle one, but no biggie I think - we're going to hand out rollback to non-admins, after all. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 14:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Editing a protected page== | |||
Did you have consensus from us all at ] to keep editing the article after it was protected? --] (]) 15:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
* I made an edit correcting an unambiguous error of fact and explained it on the talk page. This is permitted. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:01, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
**No you didn't. JzG, I respect you in a lot of instances, but avoiding changes of protected pages is not your strong suit. This was not an unambiguous error; it was clearly a change to avoid "the wrong version". Please revert yourself; I will probably take this to ANI otherwise. ] (]) 18:10, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
::* The citation says "see the 2004 DOE conclusion", but the text was not from the conclusion. I'm sure it was an innocent mistake from whoever inserted the text. It's an unambiguous factual error. The text was in quotes, linked as the "2004 DoE conclusion", but the quoted text was from the response to Charge Element 3, not from the conclusion. The sense is similar except that the Charge Element 3 response is more limited: | |||
{{quotation|The nearly unanimous opinion of the reviewers was that funding agencies should entertain individual, well-designed proposals for experiments that address specific scientific issues relevant to the question of whether or not there is anomalous energy production in Pd/D systems, or whether or not D-D fusion reactions occur at energies on the order of a few eV. These proposals should meet accepted scientific standards, and undergo the rigors of peer review. No reviewer recommended a focused federally funded program for low energy nuclear reactions."}} | |||
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{{quotation|While significant progress has been made in the sophistication of calorimeters since the review of this subject in 1989, the conclusions reached by the reviewers today are similar to those found in the 1989 review. <br /> The current reviewers identified a number of basic science research areas that could be helpful in resolving some of the controversies in the field, two of which were: 1) material science aspects of deuterated metals using modern characterization techniques, and 2) the study of particles reportedly emitted from deuterated foils using state-of-the-art apparatus and methods. The reviewers believed that this field would benefit from the peer-review processes associated with proposal submission to agencies and paper submission to archival journals.}} | |||
:::Here's the source itself: http://www.science.doe.gov/Sub/Newsroom/News_Releases/DOE-SC/2004/low_energy/CF_Final_120104.pdf | |||
:::Unless you're suggesting that the original editor deliberately falsified the source, which I hope they did not, whoever it was, then it's a simple correction of an unambiguous error of fact, quoting the wrong paragraph. Easy mistake to make, not at all controversial to fix, I'd have thought. It's not article text, even, it's the summary description of the cited source. If the editor meant to cite it differently I'm sure they will pipe up. <b>]</b> <small>(])</small> 18:26, 1 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== abuse of power == | |||
I am notifying you per due process that your protection of the ] page represents a violation of the page protection policy on two counts: | |||
*Except in cases of clear vandalism, or issues with legal impact such as copyright or defamation, pages protected in an edit war are protected in whatever version they happen to be currently in. | |||
*During edit wars, administrators should not protect pages when they are involved as a party to the dispute, except in the case of simple vandalism or libel issues against living people. | |||
Please correct this and avoid doing it again in the future. Thank you. ]<sup>]</sup> 18:34, 1 January 2008 (UTC) |
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God Jul och Gott Nytt År!
Gråbergs Gråa Sång is wishing you the season's greetings.
Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's solstice or Christmas,
Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus,
or the Saturnalia,
this is a special time of year for (almost) everyone.
JzG! Are you still out there?
Hi JzG! I was going through some old ArbCom cases and ran into one where you had added some statements. I realized that I haven't spoken to you in quite some time, and I see that you haven't made any edits since May... That sucks! I don't want to see someone like you go! If anything, I hope that you're doing well and that you're happy and that you'll someday return here. I just wanted to leave you a message and let you know that I was thinking about you... Keep in touch. :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- I hope it goes without saying, despite the fact that I'm saying it, that many of us feel the same way. Happy new year Girth Summit (blether) 23:13, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- Lovely to hear from you! I have spent the past two-and-a-bit years working at incredibly high stress for a hospital. In that time I have retired around 80% of their legacy application and server estate, instituted architectural guidelines and piloted the process for demand review, reduced the measured risk burden by around 80%, instituted objective risk monitoring using Tenable, and I've just proposed (and had accepted) a plan to remediate or mitigate most of the rest. I have, in short, been busy in that there real life of which you read, and that really wasn't going to fit in with having to be nice to people who sincerely believe that Ashlii Babbit was the real victim of the "legitimate political discourse" on Jan 6 2020.
- I have a week's leave. I have 28 days to take before year end, having managed I think three days off this year so far (including weekends). And because I have an offshore team and an onshore customer, my working day can be 8am to 3am.
- I thought I'd drop in :-) Guy (help! - typo?) 18:44, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Yikes, sounds like, umm..., a lot of responsibility. There will be plenty for you to do here when you are free! Johnuniq (talk) 22:50, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
- Glad you dropped by! Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:19, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Glad to hear you're OK - and busy, by the sounds of things! Hope you enjoy your break. Girth Summit (blether) 11:17, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Very happy see the little JzG! bishzilla ROARR!! pocket 19:56, 27 October 2022 (UTC).
- I try never to remember people's RW names unless they are "out" on Misplaced Pages. Even when they out themselves, this has led to huge problems, e.g. with a user whose identity was revealed by accident off-wiki, showing him to be the source of fact-washing his own side in Misplaced Pages disputes via a journalist. That ended badly for everyone. Guy (help! - typo?) 16:16, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- If Guy doesn't look at Talk:Alexander technique real soon now, where Eddy is being accused of plagiarism, I may be forced to contact him on bookfarce. That would mean giving Guy my real name. He always forgets me. - Roxy the dog 16:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- Hah! Good to see you're still around! RasputinAXP 20:48, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
- This is a few months late, but welcome back! Wishing you well. starship.paint (exalt) 09:40, 12 December 2022 (UTC)
- October JzG sighting at WP:RSN. Does my heart good. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:57, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
- We didn't cross paths very often lately, JzG, but we could really use you back. If you get the urge to return, please say "Yes!" Liz 01:14, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Welcome indeed! Just came across your signature here. It's always great to run in to another 'old-timer'. Hope you're well, Arbitrarily0 11:21, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2025
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).
- Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
- A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.
- The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.
- Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.
- A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!
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