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I am not familiar with arbitration. I dont understand what to bring up. --] 06:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


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Zeq. You found an article stating that Husseiny was an antisemite. 1 year ago, I brought 14 sources talking about that. Do you remember ?<br/>
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When you come and ask for evidences that Pappé uses Plan Daleth in his analysis it shows you never took care to try to read a minimum about the events of 1948 and what historians and scholars wrote about that. It is as if you would ask a prove that the blue star on the flag is a Magen David !!!<br/>
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I keep my mind. Read books from historains defending Zionists' point of view and come with real material you will have synthetised honnestly<br/>
Eg. : Yoav Gelber, ''Palestine 1948'', 2006<br/> <small>Yes ! He defends strongly Zionism but how could you know that</small>.
Eg. : Yoav Gelber, ''Israeli-Jordanian dialogue, 1948-1953 : cooperation, conspiray or collusion'', Sussex Academic Press, 2004<br/>
Eg. : Karsh, ''Fabricating Israeli History: The "New Historians"'', 1997<br/>
But you have also ], ], ], ], ], ], ...<br/>
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:I have tentatively removed the speedy deletion notice, although the information in the article should still be expanded on - at the moment, it is too short (with most of the information being provided by external links) to be a proper article on its own, but I am sure you will add to it. --] 06:09, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Back? ==
ehm, thanks :) --] ] 13:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

== Google ==

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http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&safe=off&rls=RNWE%2CRNWE%3A2005-06%2CRNWE%3Aen&q=%22pigs+and+apes%22

== Violations of ] ==

Please appologize for violating ]. The fact that for you the article may mean nothing is only your own POV. I created what, in my view, is a serious article. You may disagree and this is fine and we can discuss that with other editors. But don't make an assumptions about my good faith - You have no way to know. I don't doubt your edits are good faith (although I disagree with some content of your edits) . ] 08:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
:Hi Zeq,
:I don't understand what you are talking about.
:Could you explain what you mean ???
:] 13:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

== Please review ], etc ==

In the course of editing ], you addressed several comments to me that I would ask you to review carefully.
Twice you accused me of "borderline vandalism" and .

You may want to review ]. Vandalism, as the term is used on Misplaced Pages, implies intent. Making an accusation of vandalism where there is no evidence of intent, it would seem, is a violation of ]. ] are a form of incivility.

That second edit also implies that I've written a misleading edit summary to hide my intentions. Please review ].

Also on my talk page you wrote "''should you just wait for the right moment to revert it again I will ask for you to be prevented from editing the article''" . Writing that you anticipate that I will edit in bad faith is simply unacceptable. Threatening to call for administrative action against a good faith editor is also unacceptable. Please review ] as well.

By carefully reviewing and following these policies, it should become possible to collaborate effectively on articles with other editors. ] 20:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

== Please review ] ==

You seem to have ignored my request to review ] (among other pages.) Instead you've chosen to once again accuse me of actions which I am repeating my request that you review the '''vandalism''' page. In particular, please note:

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# Apparent bad-faith edits that do not make their bad-faith nature inarguably explicit are not considered vandalism at Misplaced Pages.

But my excerpts are not enough. Please read the page, as well as ], ] and the particular section on ].

Good collaboration with other editors is dependent on all of us following Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. Whether you've never read the relevant pages or just forgotten what they say, it would be a good idea to take the time now to review them. ] 23:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

:Your response falls far short of what is required. Creating your own definition of what "'''bordering on vandalism'''" vs "'''vandalism'''" means does nothing to address the ], violations of ] which you've pasted on two pages. Silence I might have construed as contrition, but there is no way to interpret your most recent comment except as an assertion that you have not understood that ] and ] might apply to you. Once more I implore you to read the policy and guideline pages I've linked for you. ] 04:43, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you for your offer to apologize on the talk page, but if you would simply strike out the accusation of vandalism, I would be happy to leave the rest behind us. ] 16:51, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

== Thank you for welcoming me back to wikipedia ==

] 13:58, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

== "Dying to kill" coverscan / fairuse / copyvio ==

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] says that book cover art can be used only for articles or large sections discussing the book in question. It gives the example that "An image of a rose, cropped from an image of a record album jacket, used to illustrate an article on roses." "would almost certainly not be fair use". Could you go back and remove the image you re-inserted, please? ] 15:04, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

:What text did you want me to see?
Did you read the section of ] which I mentioned, which specifically states that fair use on cover art applies only to articles discussing the item? ] 17:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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== Problems at ] ==

I noticed that the article was just fully protected, reviewed the recent history, and was concerned about your recent editing there. I have started ] which you may like to watch or respond to. ] 01:44, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

== threat ==

Zeq, I don't appreciate your threat on my talk page. Please refrain from modyfing the article that is on a consensual version BEFORE you discuss this on the talk page. ] 10:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

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It may be best to report him to ] if he continues making personal attacks or continues to engage in other disruptive behavior. '''] ]''' 00:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
:see ]. '''] ]''' 01:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

== Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus ==

There is a discussion over whether to allow the work of ] into the ] article. You're welcome to add your comments at the relevent ]. I stress to you and to anybody else who may read this message that although I have a strong opinion on this matter, I make no plea for you to adopt my stance. --] 22:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Zeq, as I wrote on ], I prefer that you stick to the subject of the improvement of the article rather than question the motivations of particular editors. We are trying to build a consensus, not rivalries. Thank you for your cooperation. --] 18:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

==Actually Zeq==

It's you that has to explain your edit which deleted the information I restored in my edit and added a section on terrorism that is already discussed in the intercommunal relations section below. Your message on my talk page mischaracterizes the situation by claiming I added the material in question when I merely restored sourced material you deleted without explanation and deleted material I cautioned you against adding in other sections already. ] 08:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:I stand by my right to revert POV edits that ] and ]. ] 08:46, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

::You shoud explain why you think they are OR or undue on talk page. ] 08:47, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:::I already have when you tried to insert similar material previously. Please read my comments before making false accusations.

:::About your other comment regarding "stereotyping" on my user page which you claim to find offensive. Please explain what you are referring to. ] 08:51, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

:::Nazareth is my town Zeq and the Jews from Tel Aviv are tourists when they come to visit it. Sorry that you find that kind of statement offensive, but that's how I see things. Thanks for your comments. Good day sir. ] 09:06, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
== What do <b> You </b> think ? ==
I would have reverted this, but what do you think is better way: PS I wonder if <u>every </u> edit I would make to the article would be reverted... I hope not ] 04:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC) (PR says - I've lifted this from ]'s page).
:] - it might appear you were holding up progress being made on that article by Tiamut, Blessed Sins and RolandR. And your involvement must be quite questionable, I cannot imagine that editors attempting to add a "mirror equivalent" of this (badly worded) statement would be welcome in articles ] or ]: ''"Since 2000 participation some Israeli-Arabs, using their israeli ID, have been helping Palestinians caring terror against Israeli citizens - this has tainted the relations between Jews and Arabs as can be seen from the verdict in one such case"''. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 11:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
::what does "israeli jew" article has to do with what you wrote ? ] 11:38, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I'm saying that going to an article on ] and providing examples of first-class Israeli citizens screaming obscenities or blasphemies as proof that Arabs or Christians were somehow justified in not wanting them as neighbours would not be welcome. (I trust you know what I'm refering to, both examples are so outrageous and unpleasant that I hesitate to link to them). In fact, describing the incidents or putting those links into the article might very well earn me an indefinite block. If the articles of first-class Israeli citizens are protected so jealously, it's only right and proper that those of second-class Israelis get at least equal protection. We could hold this discussion on ]'s page if you prefer, since that's where you were asking whether your additions should prevail over those of three other editors. ]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 11:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

== For once... ==

you are deserving of an apology. I clicked too quickly through some links and thought that was being argued on an article talk page. once it was realized where it was, but I did leave a comment on the poem controversy afterwards. ] 14:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

==Your recent edits==
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== Blocked for 24 hours ==

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***Priot to the block, I have made this request for clarification from ArbCom: but before an answer was received I got blocked. ] 16:37, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

****In his comment to ArbCom the blocking Admin make the accuastion here that "Zeq made 5 edits to Causes of the 1948 Palestinian exodus after his suggestions on the Talk page were ignored" - <b> This is <u>incorrect</u></b>. I have made <b> only </b> two edits, (one is a group of 4 edits(3 are spelling corrections) but all done at the same time and considered one edit) and the 2nd is a smaller edit. One of my edit was accepted (at least in part) the other was reverted. None of thoese edits were the subject of the discussion on talk page that was the issue here and that discussion was actually <b>after</b> the 2 edits (on a totaly different issue).

****The blocking admin made a claim that actually has no connection to how the issue has transpired. The simple solution was first to ask me or to let me a chance to respond. Since I am blocked I can not respond to the accusation made by the blocking admin but anyone who would bother to check the history pages and times of edits will see that his accusation is false. I therefor asked that since he completly misunderstood the situation I will be unblocked.

****I have already mention in my request for ArbCom to clarify the issue, that I will <b>not</b> edit the article until they rule if that article is or is not included in my ban. Therefor since locks are preventive not punative there is no reason for this block. Thank You.

{{unblock reviewed|1=see comments above Zeq 17:45, 22 October 2007 (UTC)|decline=It is not unreasonable to construe your block to extend to forks of the article you are banned from. — ] 18:51, 22 October 2007 (UTC)}}

As I stated above: I did not know at the time of the edit that it is a fork. It is a new article and that is the way I understood it. ]

:(e.c.) I agree with your point, however, that since you had already declared that you do not intend to edit that article any more, the block is needless. I will ask the blocking admin to unblock you. ] 18:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

::Thank you. Please in any case keep visiting this page as this is the only place I can comunicate. I will in any case avoid any article editing in the next 24 hours as I have learned before that even if I get blocked by error it is a indication for myself that I got into too much trouble and should scale back. I will continue to comunicate on this (and maybe other) talk pages for the next 24 hours. Tnx. ] 18:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::I will remove the block provided you agree to abide by both the letter and the '''spirit''' of the ArbCom probation. ] 20:32, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

::::Of course. I had this ban for two years. Never violated it and you know it since you had an exchange on this issue, . If I would have known the ban apply I would not edit the article - I am not stupid and not looking for trouble. I am mearly trying to keep this project NPOV as it should. ] 20:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
:::::Your plea of ignorance is unconvincing. Might I suggest reading ]. Regardless, I will remove the block for now, pending discussion at the administrator's noticeboard. ] 21:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

::::::Kaldari, what you have done, while you knew the issue is pending, was not right. In your edit here you presented me as only editing wikipedia to Push a POV - this is far from the truth as I am here to improve the project.

::::::Further more, since you had an exchange few month ago in which the argument was about the fact that I never got blocked for a violation of my probation article ban the speed in which you jumped to block me, your description of my edit as 5 (although you know very well there were only 2) and the story you presented (that I edited after my comments on talk were rejected) - where did you got that ? If these are facts - Please check the history log, look at time stemps and issue a correction to facts where appropriate and too my good faith as editor wehre appropriate. Thank You. ] 21:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

I am deeply insolted by being described as POV pusher - what POV exactly am I "pushing" here ? The POV that sais that both sides need to be represnted ? In most of my dealing in wikipedia I accept one POV and just try to present the 2nd one when others are pushing it out. This is not pushing POV this is working toward NPOV. please apply ]. And I have a better Idea - come edit tough and controversial articles and make sure they are NPOV. This is much harder task than issuing blocks in 5 minutes. ] 21:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

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== Official ban against editing ] ==

Hey Zeq, I have been informed that it would be best for me to officially declare the ban against editing ], rather than relying on it being an obvious extension of the ban against editing ]. As such, I have recorded the ban ]. Let me know if you have any questions about this. ] 19:49, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

== Copy/paste move ==

Hi, I've reverted your copy/paste move of ]. I don't have a preference about what name to use, but if you move it, please don't copy/paste since that destroys the history of the article. If you still want to move it, discuss it and establish consensus first. Best wishes/ ] 21:28, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

that article was deleted via ], so the links were removed as well. The guy isn't notable really aside from the one incident so no need to encourage a re-creation. ] (]) 16:43, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

== Please add your comments to the new thread on the Mufti ==

If we can whittle the disputes down to specific textual issues, we might make some progress toward removing the POV tag.

--] (]) 14:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

::You pointed out on my talk page that the tag is not critical. Of course it isn't, but it would be nice if we could reach some agreement on the points of contention. Despite the frequent baring of teeth on the talk page, we don't seem too far apart on the substance of the issues.

::(How sad and appropriate that there should be so much rancor on the Mufti's talk page - I'm sure the Mufti himself would be pleased. Reaching an agreement on the Mufti's biography would be a real blow to his whole ideology.) --] (]) 18:55, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Please post your responses on your talk page instead of mine. That way we will have it all in one place.

You wrote to me:

his role as a leader. his innovations in religion. his participation in Nazi plans - all these are missing now. Just look at the sources I have listed on the now archived talk page.

His role as a leader: do you mean it is missing from the lead, or from the article? What, specifically, do you think is missing or underemphasized?

Innovations in religion: I am guessing that you are referring to the thread about his overall lack of religion, the fact that he supported the bombing of Jerusalem, etc.

Participation in Nazi plans: There is quite a bit of stuff on this, though it is not included in the lead - is that what you are referring to? Also, there is no citation of the testimony from the Eichmann trial - is that also an issue?

I would add to your list: there is no mention of the Mufti's brutal suppression of Palestinian opposition to his leadership during the 1930's, the assassinations and so forth.

I think that if there is a clear statement of the differences, we will at least know where we stand, and maybe we can make some progress. --] (]) 06:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

== Merry Christmas ==

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<center>''Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.'' Matthew 10:34 KJV</center>
<br> Dear {{BASEPAGENAME}}, at this season of THE WINTER SOLSTICE, may reason prevail. There are no gods, no devils, no angels, no heaven, no hell. There is only the natural world. Religion is but myth and superstition that harden hearts and enslaves minds. </br>

Kirbytime sen't me this a year ago, and I liked it, so Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Hanukkah, or whatever else you celebrate, and see you next year. '''] ]''' 00:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
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== Input with Saudi Arabian Jewish history ==

Hi Zeq, hope all goes well. Maybe you can help improve the ] article. It links to smaller articles about Jewish tribes in the areas of present-day Saudi Arabia, such as ], ], ], ], ], ] and they all cited sources. Now ] is requesting "sources" for the same information about the tribes in the ] article, as well as making other requests for sources and whatnot. (If you like, and have a minute or two, see the discussions that have been taking place at ].) Please help out in the ] article. Thanks, ] (]) 14:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Thanks. ==

Thanks for your note, I'll take a look. ]<sup><small><font color="DarkGreen">]</font></small></sup> 03:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

==Please use the talk page==

At ], I took the trouble to explain the changes I made. I'd appreciate it if you would take the trouble to respond, before you make edits to the mainspace. Thanks. ] 17:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
:I share her mind. ] (]) 17:35, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


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== right of return ==

Hi,<br/>
I have reverted you. If you don't agree with the content, discuss first and suggest, like Tiamut does.<br/>
] (]) 09:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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== replying ==
Greetings, Zeq. You wrote, "Can you e-mail me?" I prefer to make contact here. How may I help you? ] (]) 16:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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==Please focus on content, not editor's motivations==

Dear Zeq,

For some time now at the ] article, your responses to my edits and comments there have tended to focus not on content itself, but on my alleged POV editing or failure to understand NPOV. I addressed you regarding this on the talk page, in this . Subsequently, you made this where you accuse me of having an "emotional reaction". I would appreciate it deeply if in the future, you could refrain from speculating as to motivations and focus on the content itself. It would greatly facilitate the reaching of a compromise formulation there, if that indeed were the case. Thanks for your patience and understanding in advance. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Dear Zeq,

"but I can't take this point seriously at all" does not mean "I can't take you seriously at all". I'm sorry if you interpreted the comment that way and I'll try to be more sensitive in the future. All I was trying to convey was that I didn't find the objection you raised to that information's inclusion to be based in any relevant policy. I was not emotional at the time, that's your bad faith assumption regarding my comment. Can you please concede that, pledge to change your commentary to respect the concerns I've raised, and then, can we move on? Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks Zeq. Yes, I hurt my elbow quite badly after falling on the stairs in my house. It's a bit better now. Thanks for the good wishes. ]<sup>]</sup> 17:37, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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