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My real name is Larry Pieniazek and I like ](r) Brand building elements. Feel free to mail me with comments or concerns if you don't want to post. As a note, I rarely get involved in anything any more, I confine my activity at WMF projects to a little light editing here and there, so your email is most likely to get a response on your talk page that I got it and I'm not going to do anything about it.
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* Here to leave me a message? Response time varies depending on where I'm active... Ping me if it's truly urgent, or find another admin.
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* Here about accountability? see my ] page. <br> <small>'''Note:''' The apparent listification of the category (it's back but may go away again) does not change my commitment to my recallability in any way</small>
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My real name is Larry Pieniazek and I like ](r) Brand building elements. Feel free to mail me with comments or concerns. I will archive this page if/when there is a need but will not delete comments. I reserve the right to refactor by moving comments under headings, adding headings, and so forth but will never change comment order in a way that changes meaning.

'''Note:''' I archive off RfA thank yous separately, I think they're neat!


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<small>'''Note:''' I archive off RfA thank yous separately, I think they're neat!<br />An index to all my talk page archives, automatically maintained by ] can be found at ]. </small>

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== Administrators' newsletter – January 2023 ==

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*] ] (transwikied articles) has been repealed following an ].

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* The ] has ] with many changes to the ] procedure including a change of the name to "contentious topics". The changes are being implemented over the coming month.
* The arbitration case '']'' has been closed.

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* Voting for the ] has closed and the winner is expected to be announced February to April 2023.
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== Administrators' newsletter – February 2023 ==

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*Following ], the ] now requires that prior written consent be gained from the ] to mark a block as only appealable to the committee.
*Following ], consensus has been found to impose the ] over the topic areas of ] and ].

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* The Vector 2022 skin has become the default for desktop users of the English Misplaced Pages.

] '''Arbitration'''
*The arbitration case '']'' has been opened and the proposed decision is expected 24 February 2023.
*In December, the ] was adopted which replaces the ]. The contentious topics procedure is now in effect following an initial ]. There is ] of the changes and ] for the new procedure. The arbitration clerk team are taking suggestions, concerns, and unresolved questions about this new system at ].
] '''Miscellaneous'''
*Voting in the ] will begin on 05 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2023, 21:00 (UTC). The ] of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically to vote.
* Voting in the ] will begin on 10 February 2023 and end on 24 February 2023. You can submit, discuss and revise proposals until 6 February 2023.
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== Administrators' newsletter – March 2023 ==

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*Following a ], ] (useless non-media files) has been deprecated.
*Following a ], the Portal CSD criteria (] (portal subject to CSD as an article) and ] (underpopulated portal)) have been deprecated.
*A ] is open to discuss making the ] for the ] process a guideline.

] '''Technical news'''
* The results of the ] have been ].

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* ] of the ] has ].
* The proposed decision for the ] case is expected 7 March 2023.
* A case related to the ] is expected to be opened soon.

] '''Miscellaneous'''
* The 2023 appointees for the ] are ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] and ] as regular members and ] as advisory members.
* Following the ], the following editors have been appointed as stewards: ], ], and ].
* The ] has started, which ] a {{tq|roposal for better addressing undisclosed paid editing}}. Feedback is being accepted until 24 April 2023.

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== Administrators' newsletter – April 2023 ==

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* A ] is open to discuss whether reports primarily involving ] should be referred to the ].

] '''Technical news'''
* Some older ]s will not be able to use ] on Wikimedia wikis starting this week. This mainly affects users of ]. ({{phab|T178356}})
* The ] has found no consensus to rollback to Vector legacy, but has found rough consensus to disable "limited width" mode by default.
* A link to the user's ] page will now appear in the subtitle links shown on ]. This was voted #17 in the ].

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== Administrators' newsletter – May 2023 ==

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* A ] about removing administrative privileges in specified situations is open for feedback.

] '''Technical news'''
* Progress has started on the ]. This is to address the concerns raised by the community in their ] that requested improvements be made to the tool.

] '''Arbitration'''
* The proposed decision in the ] case is expected 11 May 2023.

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== Administrators' newsletter – June 2023 ==

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* Following ], editors indefinitely site-banned by ] will now have all rights, including sysop, removed.
* As a part of the Wikimedia Foundation's ] project, a ] that governs the access to temporary account IP addresses. An ] has been created and individual communities can increase the requirements to view temporary account IP addresses.

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* Bot operators and tool maintainers should schedule time in the coming months to test and update their tools for the effects of ]. IP masking will not be deployed to any content wiki until ''at least'' October 2023 and is unlikely to be deployed to the English Misplaced Pages until some time in 2024.

] '''Arbitration'''
* The arbitration case '']'' has been closed. The topic area of Polish history during World War II (1933-1945) and the history of Jews in Poland is subject to a "reliable source consensus-required" contentious topic restriction.

] '''Miscellaneous'''
* Following ], the ] has been modified to remove the ability for users to appeal remedies to {{noping|Jimbo Wales}}.

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== Administrators' newsletter – July 2023 ==

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* Contributions to the English Misplaced Pages are now released under the ] (CC BY-SA 4.0) license instead of ]. Contributions are still also released under the ].

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* Two arbitration cases are currently open. Proposed decisions are expected 5 July 2023 for the ] case and 9 July 2023 for the ] case.

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== Administrators' newsletter – August 2023 ==

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* ] is a new tool that allows easier blocking of plain domains (and their subdomains). This is more easily searchable and is faster for the software to use than the existing ]. It does not support regex (for complex cases), URL path-matching, or the ]. ({{phab|T337431}})

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== Administrators' newsletter – September 2023 ==

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] '''Guideline and policy news'''
* Following ], ] will be automatically semi-protected the day before it is on the main page and through the day after.
* ] at ] about revision deletion and oversight for ] found that {{tq|ysops can choose to use revdel if, in their view, it's the right tool for this situation, and they need not default to oversight. But oversight could well be right where there's a particularly high risk to the person. Use your judgment}}.

] '''Technical news'''
* ] now shows the user's local edit count and the account's creation date. ({{phab|T324166}})

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* The '']'' case has closed. As part of the final decision, editors participating in ] have been reminded to be careful about forming {{tq|local consensus which may or may not reflect the broader community consensus}}. Regular closers of ] forums were also encouraged to {{tq|note when broader community discussion, or changes to policies and guidelines, would be helpful}}.

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== Administrators' newsletter – November 2023 ==

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* The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to ]. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A ] until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
* There is ] for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal ].

] '''Arbitration'''
* Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand ].
* {{noping|Xaosflux}}, {{noping|RoySmith}} and {{noping|Cyberpower678}} have been appointed to the ] for the ]. {{noping|BusterD}} is the reserve commissioner.
* Following ], the contentious topic designation of ''Prem Rawat'' has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
* Following ], multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the ''Editor conduct in e-cigs articles'', ''Liancourt Rocks'', ''Longevity'', ''Medicine'', ''September 11 conspiracy theories'', and ''Shakespeare authorship question'' cases.
* Following ], remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the ''Macedonia 2'' case have been rescinded.
* Following ], remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the ''The Troubles'' case has been amended.
* An arbitration case named '']'' has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

] '''Miscellaneous'''
* The ] is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in ]. ]
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* Following ], the ] has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
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== Administrators' newsletter – January 2024 ==

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* Following a ], the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were ].
* The arbitration case '']'' has been closed.

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* The ] is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the ]. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. ]
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Hoi Lar, could you have a look at your please? --] 03:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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:I've replied there. I will go into IRC in case we need to consult further. ++]: ]/] 03:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


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Hello, I was asked to notify you and other people that tag images, or run image tagging scripts, of this. Please check out ], which grew off of the recent AN conversation. You will be particularly interested in this section: ]. Please weigh in on the talk page there? And if possible, let me know who else should know about this? <span style="font-variant:small-caps"><font color="#800080">]</font></span> 18:31, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
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I'm not quite sure what happened there. Should I change the AfD outcome? ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 19:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
* The ] feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. ]
:Let's continue it here, I'll delete the producer page and open a DRV on myself. (The second one on me in a week, this tells me something about my closing AFDs.) It's a complete mess, I only just figured out how to fix cut/paste moves, and I have no idea what's happened at these pages. Your history seems right to me though. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 20:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::I say... Only open a DRV if you ''want'' to.. right now just deleting that (producer) page and removing it from the dab page seems to me like it would sort the whole thing. Now you know why I stay away from closing XfDs :)... it's way easier to spot other people's potential slipups than it is to get them right yourself, so don't worry, hang in there... glad someone's willing to take this on. ++]: ]/] 20:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Nah, I'm an accountability freak, so I'll open the DRV to make sure I did things right. I spent about 4-5 hours one day closing a whole bunch of AfDs, and it seems I royally screwed some of them up. Sigh. I'll learn one of these days, thanks for your help. Also, your work on the recall stuff's been superb, thank you so much. Regards, ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 20:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Thanks. Ping me when you open the DRV will ya? I want people to be clear that it's just to make double sure, not that there's an issue, ok? ++]: ]/] 20:54, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::It's right here: ]. I'd really appreciate your comments, if you could spare the time. Thanks, ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 20:57, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::I have responded there. Thanks again. ++]: ]/] 23:20, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


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I thought you were just making things unnecessarily complicated Lar ;) However, it turns out that ] (the dab page) has no real edit history. That's at ], deleted. The easiest way to solve this (without going through all the edits one by one, yuck) would be restore the producer page, move it to ] (delete to make way for move), delete the redirect left behind at the producer page, and restore any post 27 Dec edits at ]. ]'s edits at ] are a cut and paste job, probably the cause of all this, and can stay deleted; indeed his edits at the producer article could probably stay deleted too.
* The arbitration case '']'' has been closed.
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Now, you up for all that or do you want me to do it? Doesn't seem worth discussing as a deletion review, there was nothing wrong with the closure just a bit of a mess to be fixed in the edit histories... --] (]) 00:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC) . I've looked in more detail and it seems to me all his edits can stay deleted as they're covered by the AfD or they're copyvio. --] (]) 00:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
* WikiProject Reliability's ] is happening in June 2024 to replace {{tl|citation needed}} tags with references! ''']'''
:I've not a very dab hand (grins, ducks) with delete/restore/merge/unmerge magic so if you're up for it that would be awesome. It sounds like you've investigated the histories of the bits well enough to get it all sorted out at last and I'm thinking you're the man for the job. Please do it. (I expect Keilana will feel the same way) ++]: ]/] 00:45, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::Indeed, I am much less experienced than you. ]<sup>]</sup><sub>]</sub> 00:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Righto. Deep breath. --] (]) 01:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Do let us know how it goes, eh mate? :) ++]: ]/] 01:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Done, and I need a drink! :) I think it's all in good order now. /dev/null would be a good place to notify me at if it isn't ;) Nite mate. --] (]) 01:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Put it on my tab. When we finally meet we are both going to be stonkered after we get done with all the drinks we owe each other, I suspect. ++]: ]/] 17:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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Which featured articles/candidates are you referring to? To my knowledge I haven't edited any in the past month aside from the Lawson one - though I may have done so in passing, and I'm now curious to see what I did to them that has caused you such concern. I appreciate that not all my edits are done with sparkling readability in mind - but I aint a complete dunce when it comes to writing. I am a published writer. I have earned a living from writing and editing at various points in my life, as well as some modest acclaim and a couple of modest awards! In my day I even had my ten minutes of fame on BBC2! ;-) <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">''']''' *]</span> 01:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:Take a look at ]... My mistake, ] wasn't an FA. It just reads like it OUGHT to be an FA... At least it used to, anyway. No offense, but a fair bit of your recent contribution history looks like you were going around editing articles that were primarily Giano's work, and making changes that don't necessarily improve things. I am not the only person to have noticed that, I don't think. I guess either you really like Giano's style, or you really don't. Me, I'm in the camp that really does. ++]: ]/] 02:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
:: Hmmm. I started doing some work on ], and thought I'd do a section on architecture. So I looked at other city articles which had an architecture section - such as ], and ] and found my way to ] which - no matter how much you admire Giano's style - was, its original form, the sort of article that the policies and guidelines of Wiki state we should not have. It stunned me, to be honest. I could see the merits of it, but also the flaw of ]. I set out to correct the flaws because there is much in there to admire. I did that in good faith following the principle of Misplaced Pages. Then, as is the way with Wiki, a link from Aylesbury led to Robert Lawson where I made just a couple of edits and listed it for discussion because of my concerns. I then left things alone.
:: I do feel that I am being grossly misunderstood by people in this case. I don't see how working on two articles (one fairly briefly) then moving off to work on Hampstead Heath and Brussels can be a fair accusation of "a fair bit of your recent contribution history looks like you were going around editing articles that were primarily Giano's work" - and as the Lawson article is the only FA I have edited would you amend that comment you made on the FARC? I kinda thought we had come to an understanding, and that you were giving me the benefit of the doubt. I had enjoyed our conversation and thought we might work together. I am saddened by the position you have taken here, and the view you clearly hold of me as demonstrated by your comments that I am going around damaging FAs, that I am stalking Giano, and that I am the one who should get ticked off for undoing a revert. Was that conversation we had for nothing - did I create an enemy the day I crossed you so that you will forever see me as the bad guy? I have stood up for the principles of Wiki, I get attacked for doing it, but I maintain good faith and a sense of humour, then you come along - someone who knows a bit of my history, and - I thought - knows that I have good intent at heart, and you muddy the waters further with some very strong and unfounded comments.
::Can you see how this is looking from my point of view?
::I am staying away from the Lawson article. What happens there will happen there. I will check back on the FARC out of curiosity. I won't kick up a fuss if it gets buried, though I will of course be very disappointed.
::I've just noticed some recent comments at Aylesbury- which I had checked on while writing this note to you. I'll leave a note there, and then also walk away. I hope good sense will prevail on both articles. Wiki should not be the place for people to be publishing their original views and research. You DO know that - and you DO know that the original version of Architecture of Aylesbury was unsound.
::I'm making these comments and then backing away from the whole thing. I hope that I'm wrong about you harbouring bad feelings from our encounter, and that we can work together in a spirit of harmony and friendship. With regards <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">''']''' *]</span> 03:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


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With that as context, I don't think I bear you any particular ill will, or see you as a bad guy, or that our first meeting has to colour how we perceive each other forever more (an aside, one of the admins I admire the very most here, had a quite unproductive initial relationship with me, and I spoke out strongly against his adminship at the time of his RfA... we both changed and learned and I think he now thinks of me pretty highly too... it was because of what he and I did, what he and I said, what actions he and I took as we moved forward, not what had happened in the past, that changed our views.) I do think that you and I can and will work together productively and harmoniously in future if you wish it. I never want anything other than that in my relationships with other editors.
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2) On '''Original Research versus "synthesis"'''... You are absolutely right when you say that this project is no place for Original Research. But I want to talk to you about something I call "synthesis" (and others call "engaging the reader"). I am not a very good writer, so this example will suffer for that, but I know my own work best so it's where I draw from. I think every good article should do more than recite facts, it should tell a story that makes the reader want to read to the very end. Things often are more than just the sum of the facts about them, after all. Consider an article I myself hope will be an FA someday, ]. I could have just recited all the facts about her, given a few pictures, and been done. But there's a story behind that article, the story of a man, a prolific inventor, an immigrant to our country, who invented something quite odd, and in the teeth of derision and ridicule, made a minor success of it, changing nautical engineering for the better. The 'Chris' was part of that. Over her lifetime she carried 2 million people. I'm not sure I told the whole story successfully yet, the article peters out at the end, but consider this bit from the middle:
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::''McDougall was quoted as having said to McArthur, "There is your steamboat; take her down to Chicago and make a success of her."
::''McArthur did just that.'' (the paragraph goes on to relate praise from contemporary reviewers and statistics on people carried, she carried 1.7M people the year of the fair, in one summer)
I didn't have to use that quote. In fact some might argue that it's unencyclopedic, and that I shouldn't have said that the captain "did just that", as I don't really know for sure. But it's an example of synthesis. I drew the conclusion, from the statistics and contemporary accounts that McArthur presided over a smashing success, and it's an obvious conclusion. And further, it's short, powerful phrasing, designed to engage the reader and make him or her want to find out how the story comes out (it actually has a tragic ending, the whalebacks were ultimately a failure, and 'chris' died under the scrappers torch in 1936 but that wasn't how it looked in 1893).


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Consider another article which I also hope, maybe someday, could be an FA: ]. It's a dam built in 1907 across a river most would view as fairly minor, generating not a lot of electricity. Pretty ho hum stuff. Except in fact there's a story behind it... When it was built, the power was transmitted over 50 miles away, at over 100,000 volts. Those were both huge technical breakthroughs at the time. Further it was a key milestone in the industrial development of a region, and part of a series of ever larger and more ambitious projects carried out by the Foote brothers in their building of Consumers Power, now part of a very large electric power company. And it turned 100 this year and is still in use, generating electricity. All that won't come out from a dry recitation of facts. It needs synthesis. Again, maybe I'm not all the way there, but that's what I want the reader to come away with. More than just facts, a sense of wonder at the history of the place.
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What Giano and his collaborators did in ], and in ] is just that. Synthesis. The cites give evidence, but not the story. The article is drawing the reader to the obvious conclusions. Obvious to someone who knows their stuff, that is, but not necessarily obvious to the uninformed reader. And Giano knows his stuff when we're talking about architectural history, and knows how to tell an engaging tale. With Aylesbury, the synthesis is around English market town architecture and trends and how Aylesbury fits in to that overall story and how it's a good example of market towns, county seats and the like. That is not original research. It's leading the reader on to conclusions that the bare facts, recited dryly, might not have led him to. But it's not OR. Similarly with Robert Lawson, the bare facts do not themselves lead to the conclusion that Lawson had a huge impact on the overall architecture of NZ unless you do some synthesis. But the conclusion is inescapable and presenting the material in a way that leads the reader to it is not OR. It is instead, great writing.
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3) '''On collaborating'''... I think where you went off the rails in your recent encounters with Giano is in how you approached collaboration. Every encyclopedia article that has more than one user's edits to it is, to a greater or lesser extent, a collaboration. Some successful, some not so much, but they are. To successfully collaborate, you need to get in the right mindset. You need to approach an article, especially one that is mostly the work of one person, and try to figure out what the writer is trying to achieve. I know what ] says, but it's a pride of craftsmanship thing. If you don't agree, the talk page is the place to start. Propose changes there and defend your thesis, defend why you don't think the article should be telling the story it is. But to come up to an article and start blithely ripping up what was done, even if you are absolutely certain that policy supports you, that's not collaboration. That's an adversarial relationship and you are not going to be received well even by the most friendly and calmest editor out there. If at Lawson you had instead of ripping out stuff and replacing it with your cite from an NZ 'pedia, brought forth the idea, on the talk page, that perhaps not everyone sees Lawson in the same way, and could the article be enhanced to bring that out? You could well have edited that section to include the notion that there are differing views of Lawson's influence, and present some of them, using your material as cites. That would have been received much more graciously I would think. Similarly with Aylesbury, instead of ripping out everything that wasn't inline cited (which policy may support you on, or may well not, it's not open and shut), you could have identified a few things you had doubts about, done some of the research yourself, worked to enhance the cites yourself and showed that you cared about collaborating with those there already.


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I urge you to try some honest and open collaboration with others on these two articles, or perhaps on some others. I think you'll find it a much more pleasant, and ultimately much more rewarding, experience, to work with others to jointly take a great article and make it even better, than to try to show that others violated some policy or another and that your rewrite is better than their version.
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::'''On friends and enemies''' I totally agree with. I am also here to build the encyclopedia and have not sought out either friends or enemies but simply working colleagues on Misplaced Pages. I have made friends via internet projects - and some of those I have known for over 5 years and become among my closest real life friends - but I am not actively engaged on Wiki for friendship. For conversations, chats and sharing everyday views via the internet I use other websites and forums.
::'''Original Research versus "synthesis"''' - I see your point, but I don't agree. What you are talking about in engaging the reader and getting the reader to see your point of view about "the story" is covered in ]. Presenting material in such a way to lead readers to a conclusion rather than allowing the reader to make their own conclusion is inappropriate for an encyclopedia as it puts a bias there and fixes the view - preventing new interpretations and inhibiting free thought and progress. Because of the danger of that, the founding principles of Misplaced Pages were created. And I don't even want to get into looking at and discussing Giano's work because I understand he is a highly regarded but very controversial chap, and the two articles I have looked at of his I have been very impressed with the writing, and as a former publisher I would certainly want to use him, but as someone who works within the guidelines of this project - well.... no, it seems he doesn't. The FA system may have been set up with the intention of creating attractively written prose where following the policies of this encyclopedia may not be a priority - I can see that, and appreciate it as a means of "generally" improving the prose throughout the project - though I would have issues with the means if they are in conflict with the policy which keeps the information on Wiki as reliable and sound and unbiased. I am considering looking at the FA process and adding my views on the process. Not that I think adding my views would change anything, but because I feel it's important for people to be able to share their views.
::'''On collaborating''' I completely take on board your comments about working in harmony with others. I have been criticised in the past for working too quickly at times. I think I may in the past have taken too literally the extortions to get involved and edit Wiki where one feels one can make an improvement! There is clearly a judgement to make where one's edit may cause a disruption, and where an edit will be accepted as good faith. Sometimes I get that judgement wrong, though this happens far less often these days as I am better able through experience to judge when an article has ownership issues. In the specific case of Aylesbury - when I started editing it the two principle editors were not active on Wiki so it was not possible to engage in a discussion with them, though I would have liked to do that. With Lawson, I did ask for other people's opinion by raising the FARC. I do collaborate and , though one can sometime be too respectful - ] - and an article can stagnate if people are talking rather more than doing, or avoiding making an edit for fear of treading on someone's toes. I understand what you are saying about the pride of craftsmanship thing, as I personally do find a blunt revert can be a shock to the system - though such pride can be a two edged sword. It's good to be proud of one's contributions as that is what keeps us working here and producing good work - but too much pride can prevent appropriate progress by not allowing other people to make changes. As you say, communication is the key. It's just finding the right balance between talk and action - and in these cases, as I say, in the first one there was no one to talk to at the time, and in the second I did raise my concerns through what I thought was the appropriate channel. I will however pay more attention to fine tuning my communication!
::Again thanks for your considered reply. It has been VERY helpful and reassuring. Warm regards <span style="border: 1px #F10; background-color:cream;">''']''' *]</span> 23:42, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


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May I ask how recent Andranikpasha's disruption on other wikis is? In terms of months, weeks, days. Your assistance here is greatly appreciated, so thank you. Cheers, ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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:Some of it, especially that done by the IP, is quite recent but a lot of it is older (months old). I'd say he's become less disruptive over time but still falls into the "let's vandalise 5 wikis to make up for one admin doing one thing to me on one wiki" pattern from time to time. Maybe he'll stop? ++]: ]/] 16:00, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
::I looked on the case made by Grandmaster, Jayvdb and you, and didnt see any "recent" vandalism by that IP of "strong technical correlation". I diff is welcomed! ] (]) 16:21, 5 January 2008 (UTC)


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:::Do you admit that you are the same user as the IP range, and as the other users named, across the many wikis that the case names off? Do you admit that you have in the past been disruptive, and have vandalised pages of admins at many wikis in retaliation for something they did to address your disruptiveness at one wiki? Let's for the sake of argument say I am only referring to things that I believe you did more than 3 months ago. Your honest answer to that question will in part determine what I do next. ++]: ]/]
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:No worries, I found it in time I think. ++]: ]/] 17:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
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:Deleted. This happens to be an image I "touched" but not one I had much of anything to actually do with. It's pretty clearly a copyvio, no permission was ever granted and it's now orphaned so... no reason to keep it. ++]: ]/] 20:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


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I responded to your comment on my talk page. And maybe when you get a chance you could stop by ]. Thanks! <span style="background:lightgrey;color:grey;border:1px solid #1E90FF"> <font face="Futura Lt BT" size="3">]</font> • <font face="Impact" size="2">]</font> |</span><span style="background:#1E90FF;border:1px solid #1E90FF;color:#1E90FF"><small>]</span></font> 20:37, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


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:Looks good! I like having the "see also" links at the bottom, which is why I templatised them. Mayhaps I should add that to mine as well... for people that stumble onto my page without having gotten there the conventional way. Thanks! ++]: ]/] 01:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)


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how we first met, your kind words mean quite a bit to me. I would say my response is a "not now" rather than a "not never". I nominated someone for adminship once (Rigadoun, co-nommed with Xoloz) and I have to say I was a nervous wreck on Rigadoun's behalf the entire week. I wouldn't be as nervous in my own request, but I fear I would be unproductive. Although the concerns I expressed to Wizardman were genuine, I also worry of disrupting my creative energy. --] (]) 04:14, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
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There are some issues surrounding ]'s article, regarding the whisper-campaign regarding his religion. edit to the forked article on the issue (as well as others by the same user) concern me greatly. S/he has also followed me to the Village Pump, where I went to solicit an outside view on the matter, and harangued me there. Any assistance/perspective you could offer would be great. Regards, ] ]] 17:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
* Following an ], there is a new ]: ], which {{tq|applies to unused maintenance categories, such as empty dated maintenance categories for dates in the past}}.
:If this is urgent I am not a good choice, I am off to my informally adopted daughter's wedding shortly, so you may want to seek someone else. If it can wait till tomorrow, I'll see what I can do. ++]: ]/] 06:50, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
* A ] is open to discuss whether ] should be adopted as a ].
==Recall of Archtransit being suggested ==
See ], last 6 sections, may be the next one, you may want to take a look. We need a Batman-like spotlight for you. Mr. Recall-man ;) ] 22:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:Hm. I did not think Archtransit was in the category in the first place. Given that the RfA was less than a week ago, an addition should have shown up here: ] ++]: ]/] 22:46, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
::I think he was still in the process of putting his recall ideas together, but that is a valid point. But then recall ultimately is a purely voluntary process at this point, whether one adds oneself to the category or not. Cheers, ] 22:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I said that before I looked into things a bit deeper, I see how that he committed he would join the category during the RfA (ask me sometime about why my view of that has changed over time, I used to ask the question, now I think asking or committing should be deprecated) but hadn't "done the paperwork" of deciding what criteria/process yet. I'll opine on his talk, because that's what I like to do. :) ++]: ]/] 22:54, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


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On this subject, take a look at and see what you think. The 30 days restriction is pretty clever, given the last few days. <sup>]]</sup> 15:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
* Following a ], ] (the topic and interaction bans on ], respectively) were repealed.
:I'm not sure I would have put that in were I he. I suspect it's not going to be received very well. ++]: ]/] 19:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
* ] of the ] ("{{noping|Cinderella157}} German history topic ban") was ] for a period of six months.
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==here's the sandbox==
* Editors can now enter into ], an alternative for informal '']'' arrangements, to have a ] reviewed in return for reviewing a different editor's nomination.
Corvus Cornix made a big issue of the recall during my RFA (and others' RFA) so I pledge to work with him/her. Add your name too and feel free to place ideas here. http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:Archtransit/sandbox2
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You've already commented at the FAR of ]. Would you take another peek at it, and slap me with a minnow (or a trout) if you think I'm being too hard on that reviewer? I had a big problem with the nomination when it popped up on my watchlist. However, I've tried to remain civil throughout. I'd appreciate your view on whether or not I've maintained that. I tend to get frustrated with the process wonkery that sometimes overwhelms the writing and editing of the project (as you know), so I'd appreciate being "pulled back from the edge" a bit, if you feel I'm approaching it. Regards, -- ] ]] 14:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
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:I'll try to comment when I get a chance. ++]: ]/] 14:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC) It should show you, gentle user, whether you are an admin and whether you have the extended confirmed flag or not. ++]: ]/] 17:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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If you have some time available can you please run a CU on ], I'm under the impression that this is a ] that I blocked yesterday for disruption, the problem is that this user's block is being discussed over and I want to know if he is related or not before shortening the block. - ] 14:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:Can you give me a rationale why you think this user is related? Some diffs showing a pattern would be good. I prefer not to run CU's just on say so because ... {{fishing}} :) ++]: ]/] 14:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


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::This user's first ever edit outside of userspace was on the blocked user's talk page , before going on a random edit pattern, he seems familiar with this case. - ] 14:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


] from the past month (September 2024).
:::Then there is the fact that the mayority of his edits were on articles that deal with actors, exactly the area of work that Samuel has. - ] 14:47, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Sorry, having mail server troubles, which took priority, but I am running the check for you now (unless the log shows you got someone else to do it)... can you point to the AN/I thread I need to visit with results? Thanks! ++]: ]/] 18:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::Please check your mail... I have mailed you something I prefer not to broadcast publicly, till more consultation happens. However, publicly, I see it as {{unlikely}} at best (more like {{unrelated}}, really...) that these two users are connected, based on CU analysis. ++]: ]/] 18:45, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


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Seeing as you participate on that talk page a bit, I've left a suggestion on it which might be of interest. I'm trying to get ] to add it: feel free to have a look at my suggestion: it's small, but may be useful. Thanks, --<font color="Green">]</font> <sup><font color="Blue">]</font></sup> 18:32, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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* Following ], the speedy deletion reason "File pages without a corresponding file" has been moved from criterion ] to ]. This does not change what can be speedily deleted.
* A ] is open to discuss whether there is a consensus to have an ] process.


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You know when you say something, and then suddenly wonder if you said it in the wrong place...? Can you have a quick look over in case it needs bringing to the attention of somebody? Cheers. ] (]) 20:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC) (I've also bought it to the attention Alison.) ] (]) 20:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
* The arbitration case '']'' has been closed.
:What sort of attention does it need, do you think? That whole thread seems a bit of silly fun and harmless. (or else I'm in trouble too!) ++]: ]/] 21:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
* An arbitration case regarding ] has been opened.
::Um... Well, it just seems that there is still a way of deleting an article with over 5000 edits - not very easy to do accidentally (but not impossible, human nature being what it is) - and, er, I just wondered if there was a venue more suitable than WR to bring it up in case someone needs to know... The only Devs I've ever known where a bunch of lads from Hounslow whose parents were originally from the Indian subcontinent, so I thought I'd bring it to the attention of the only person I know that might know someone in Misplaced Pages who might be interested in such a possibility.
* Editors are invited to ''']''' to serve on the 2024 Arbitration Committee Electoral Commission until ''23:59 October 8, 2024 (UTC)''.
::Also, since Alison may be busy I thought I'd let you know too. ;~) ] (]) 21:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


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:::The reason deleting it is a problem is it breaks the wiki - if you redirect it and salt the redirect (and why an admin would do that, I dunno) nothing is deleted, and no wikidestroying problems ensue. <sup>]]</sup> 22:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
* If you are interested in stopping spammers, please put ] and ] on your watchlist, and help out when you can.
::::There was a discussion at WikipediaReview regarding the magical 5000 edit figure making an article impossible to delete (per last night). I think I found a way of making an article appear deleted by redirecting it to another name - and then deleting that. While the edit history remains with the redirected article the access to the article appears as if it is deleted.
::::There may never be a reason for doing the above, but at least it appears possible and without the need for devs - I was simply asking where I might post this, since some poor blighted souls believe they aren't supposed to read WR (and certainly not believe anything they read there.) ] (]) 22:20, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


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:::::I don't get it - nothing is hidden by a redirect, you just click on the "Redirected from blah blah" link and look at the original article. <sup>]]</sup> 22:22, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::I'm pretty much completely lost here guys. :) If the redirect was deleted, I guess you'd have to view the deleted text and then follow that link back to the original??? But what were we talking about in the first place? I forget. ++]: ]/] 22:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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::::::::Me having inappropriate brainwaves? My point is that for the majority of editors and readers that an article, even with 5,000 edits thus making it immune to admin deletion, is rendered deleted simply by redirecting it to a new name which is then deleted per ordinary admin action - since sysops, stewpots and other encrusted editors have that facility already. ] (]) 23:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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== Thank you ==


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{{admin|Rudget}} appears to have been compromised. Can you look at the and help him please. ] <sup>]</sup> 16:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:Regarding It's all been sorted now. Thanks anyway and apologies for any inconvenience. Regards, ]] 20:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
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Just a quick question before I go. Can bureaucrats remove +sysop flag? Regards, ]] 22:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
:Not on WMF wikis (I am a crat elsewhere where it so happens I can, it's a configuration thing). For that you need a ]. See ] which is where one requests it. Read the instructions carefully and put your request in the "removal of access" section. Hope that helps (and hope this was just a curiousity thing, not that you actually want to resign) ++]: ]/] 22:32, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


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I've replied there. I respect you a great deal, but the "are fooling yourself" remark seems off the mark for me. Forgive me if I misinterpreted but could you consider rephrasing? Warm regards, ]


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Hi Lar. Are you still admin coaching. If you are, would you be willing to take on a new coachee. I know that admin coaching takes alot of effort and is totally voluntary so you can refuse. ] has asked me to find an admin coach for him. Also, I would be willing to help out where I can but obviously Im not experienced enough to do everything yet. ] has said hes happy with it as long as the coachee isn't in a rush. Thanks very much. ]<small>]</small> 17:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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:I saw your post on John's page (I think it was). I am pretty busy. Maybe you and John could take this one as a team? I'd hate to commit and not follow through. Maybe you and I take the next one? ++]: ]/] 18:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
::Sure, thats fine. I'll talk to John about it. If you don't mind, we'll probably use your template coaching page as it was an excellent base for me to work from when you and John coached me. Thanks. ]<small>]</small> 20:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
:::That would be fine. Best. ++]: ]/] 21:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


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==Question about recall from Jehochman==
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How do you feel about ]? ] <sup>]</sup> 14:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:Subject to argument and contention due to lack of clarity... what does "If evidence is provided to me via this process that I have lost the trust of the community" mean? one person? 5 persons? A simple majority? an RfA majority saying you HAVEN'T lost it? That you HAVE lost it? Way too unclear. Simple seems a good idea except that it leaves too much up in the air, in my view, which is why I went the complete opposite way, spelling everything out. ++]: ]/] 14:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::Gaa. Complexity makes me unhappy. I think I prefer default policy rather than creating new process. Will think about it more...] <sup>]</sup> 14:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::I am no fan of complexity either, but in thinking about this, I came out with what I have as the simplest possible way to implement my objectives that removed all ambiguity. ("make things as simple as possible, but no simpler" )... Why did you delete the page? Why not slap a "I'm not doing this" on it? I think being able to see what DOESN'T work is as good as seeing what DOES.
:I like the idea of a simple process. However, I agree that your process relies on you seeing things the way others do, that you see the evidence as showing that you have lost the community trust as they do. This is the issue I have been thinking about, and I have two possible ways to handle it on ]. Any old user who has 150+ edits or whatever is not necessarily qualified to make such a judgement. To me the key is finding good judges to make that decision, instead of either you or self-selected random users being the judges. I think you are getting close to coming up with a good simple process though. ] 15:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


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While I have everyone's ear, what do people think of Radiant's campaign against this idea? Seems somewhat polemical, see for instance ]. Also see the unilateral delete of ], which I restored since I think Radiant doesn't ] it, others commented too and it's of historical interest. ++]: ]/] 15:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
* Following a ], the ] proposal that went for a trial to refine the ] (RfA) process has been discontinued.
* Following a ], ] is adopted as a policy.


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:Personally, I think that admins can and should find ways to be accountable, and the accountability alliance was one of those ways (and an interesting idea). People also should be allowed to have their own opinions of it, and that seems to be the case with Radiant. Just my opinion. ]|<sup>]</sup> 15:21, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
* Mass deletions done with the ] tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. {{phab|T366068}}


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:I guess you can see what I think of it from that RfA, although I'm not an admin so maybe what I think isn't relevant. People come up with processes in good faith - there is no set process, and no public consensus as to the best format, so folks wing it. An attacking oppose based on a particular formulation is a mistake, in my mind, as it doesn't contribute to any goal in a meaningful way. <sup>]]</sup> 15:24, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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:Pardon the butting in.. but along those lines- I've tried to convince crats to play a similar role a time or two, with no success at all. They're (understandably) reluctant to expand crat power that way. It's unfortunate- I personally think we should give the crats a clear mandate to go ahead and correct mistaken promotions, whenever they are identified as a mistake. It's rather bizarre (and has harmful effects) that in this ONE case, we make it easy to do something without making it similarly easy to ''undo''. The entire rest of the Wiki depends on the idea that mistakes aren't usually very bad, because what's easily done can be easily undone. And, surprisingly enough, this approach works out fine on most of the wiki. Why do we see promotions as a completely different animal? ] ] 15:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::No problem, Friday. Lar, what would you recommend? Having a clerk do it? ]|<sup>]</sup> 15:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Well I would say that the idea of a pre-appointed "council" or "jury" (selected in advance is important I think) might be a way to have a way to decide. Or the clerk if the clerk is sufficiently highly regarded as impartial. ++]: ]/] 15:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::Wait a sec, should my side of the "board" (per se) be preselected? ]|<sup>]</sup> 15:22, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::Even a random jury might work. Select random admins from the active admin list and ask them to serve. As long as you get about 5 or more to say yes, you would have an adequate jury to decide if the complaint is worthy of starting a formal recall process or not. ] 15:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


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::::Really - do you want to create a trial system? You're basically making an add-hoc recall ArbCom. We already have RfAs - its purpose is to determine the trust of the community. If some evidence is demonstrated that the trust may be gone, run through an additional RfA. <sup>]]</sup> 15:42, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::The jury is only to decide if the petitioner is bringing valid and significant enough complaints (to decide if it is a "good-faith request" as Keilana says above). If they say yes, then you start an RfC open to the community to decide the issue, or else the admin resigns and does an RfA. ] 15:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::Personally, I prefer having a neutral, trusted clerk to determine such things. Who should probably be asked ahead of time. Thoughts? ]|<sup>]</sup> 15:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


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I agree. Except that my neutral may be your hopelessly biased and vice versa. It may be an insoluble problem. ++]: ]/] 17:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


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:Sounds reasonable. I see no need for any different action... ++]: ]/] 19:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)


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:I just wrote out a quickie summary of all 3 attempts, would you take a look, please? ]<nowiki>|</nowiki><sup>]</sup> 00:25, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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::I did... I noticed nits of differing capitalization etc, and maybe the close dates might be good to add (like when Dreadstar deleted one, etc) but in general, good stuff. The less said the better. (Piotrus II is a model of how much detail NOT to go into :) ) ++]: ]/] 01:13, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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I wasn't trying to make a ], but I thought the process should be deprecated, as all too often it becomes an excuse to criticize the admin (not ]). Anyway, apologies for that.. and I haven't edited the page since. --] (]) 23:42, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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:You certainly gave every appearance of POINTy behaviour... why on earth would you go round and mark a bunch of pages instead of discussing the matter? If it was a terrifically bad process (as so many people ''not in the category'' seem to think) it wouldn't have about 10% adherence. It's not for everyone but the process works. Proof is to be found on the ] page. It's not perfect but by and large the trollish requests result in nothing bad happening. Where it has more trouble is with admins who get recalled for serious reasons but who have trouble during the process for one reason or another. Accountability is important. ++]: ]/] 23:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Lar, would you be kind enough to checkuser ], an obvious sock trying to cause even more trouble at this very late stage of what has been a very distressing time. It would be a shame if he were to cause the ] to roam Misplaced Pages, just as I'm getting them back into their stables. ] (]) 11:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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:Very likely sock of {{user14|Fratboy101}} who is an indef blocked vandalistic user. Blcoked indef and tagged. ++]: ]/] 12:10, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


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Administrators' newsletter – June 2023

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Administrators' newsletter – September 2023

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  • Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
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Nomination for deletion of Template:Merge-Class

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Precious anniversary

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Thanks!!! ++Lar: t/c 05:04, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

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  • Pages that use the JSON contentmodel will now use tabs instead of spaces for auto-indentation. This will significantly reduce the page size. (T326065)

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Cool gadget!

You are not logged in, so you are not extended confirmed. Your account is extended confirmed.does not have the extended confirmed flag, but you are an administrator, so your account is extended confirmed by default.

It should show you, gentle user, whether you are an admin and whether you have the extended confirmed flag or not. ++Lar: t/c 17:56, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

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  • Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

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BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 00:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

I did. It was interesting. ++Lar: t/c 22:38, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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This was a cover from 2005. I see the article The Week has been updated to use a much more recent cover. I have no issue whatever with deletion of this image, it served its purpose and has been obsoleted. ++Lar: t/c 22:36, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

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