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*Actually, I think a redirect to ] would be more appropriate. I'd make one, but I'm not sure how... my contributions to wikipedia have been a recent thing, so I'm still getting used to it all. Re: humor - yep, I've found several humorous articles on this web site. It's quite a fascinating bit, really. <br><br>


You have added the castle as a place in Merionethshire, but surely it was in Caernarfonshire ? ] (]) 07:52, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
Re: unknown bands... see, when I think of unknown, I think of indie - I know/know of a lot indie bands who aren't all that famous but still have a fan following. I've gotten an indie zine started and written actual articles about the bands which I attempted to add. They may be relatively obscure in the grand scheme of things, but are locally (or otherwise marginally) recognized. I do believe John has a point about the fact that what is unknown to some is obvious fact to others. However, after seeing an article about a director I've heard of land up in the deletion bin because he didn't have enough "notability", I don't feel quite so bad about my band pages getting deleted... you know? ;) Also, out of curiousity, how did you find my band contributions in the first place? Did you search for new additions, or what? <Br><br>
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The quote is found in Freedom at Midnight,a book that deals with the Indian independance movement's last moments etc. I dont remember the page etc as of now. Besides ive read it in a newpaper article as well. ]
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I have also seen Guipuscoa more often than any of the others. (In Spanish it's Guipúzcoa, and in Basque Gipuzkoa.) But, I checked Britannica, Columbia and Merriam-Webster, and "Guipúzcoa" (with the acute accent) seems to see the preferred form (see ]). On the other hand, place naming is a sensitive political issue in Spain. You are likely getting dragged into edition wars if you change the Basque name. I prefer less sensitive issues ;) ] 16:26, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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This was something to be discussed in the Basque WikiProject, though I ahve been absent from Misplaced Pages lately and I don't know what happened in the end. One strong position in this issue was that of English philologist, living in the Basque Country, ], who suggested that Guipuscoa really has no such strong tradition in English language as to support it being kept that way and that instead the official name should be used primarily. He went even further and sugegsted that Biscay should be found by Bizkaia, because Biscay is really amost only used for the sea of that name and not so commonly for the province.


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It's a similar case with Gotemburg/Göteborg... where the western Latinized name is in the end no more common than the original Swedish name. Is it Zaragoza or Saragossa in English? Obviously this may be subject to discussion and it's difficult to find the correct midpoint. My personal opinion is that unless it's a very common term in English, such as capital or other worldwide famed cities, or there's no standard native spelling, the official name should be used primarily. And that's the case for Gipuzkoa, a place that is not worldwide famed at all.
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In any case, I have nothing to do with any recent changes in that page. Yet I support the form Gipuzkoa, which is the official name, unless you can demonstrate that the Latinized form Guipuscoa is such a widely known term in English that doing otherwise would cause confussion to most users. Remember that nowadays English is not anymore just an ethnic language but the primary international language and hence these issues must have a cosmopolitan and not an Anglo-centric approach.


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The pronunciation of Gipuzkoa (Basque spelling) and Guipúzcoa (Spanish and traditional spelling) is almost the same. The name Gìpuzkoa is the only official since 1991 and the Basque institutions use it both writing in Basque and in Spanish. Guipuscoa was used in English but I think it is out of use now. The issue is political rather than linguistic. I would recommend to use Guipúzcoa in Spanish even if it is not official, and also Guipuscoa in English has it has some tradition, at least until there is some definition within the province itself (Maybe there is a political turnover and then Guipúzcoa comes back, as even if it is not official it is still widely used).


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Well, I added that a year ago. Haha. Back then the Legal Issues section was a total mess, I was thinking of cleaning it up but I didn't what should be excised and not. So I left it up to other people, I was expecting the tag to be removed sooner or later by someone, not left up an entire year. --] 19:42, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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== Hii sir add this village in Misplaced Pages ==
For quite some time now, there has been a concerted effort on the part of certain individuals to monopolize editing rights to tens of articles pertaining to Afghanistan. These individuals have continuously shown their leanings towards a subversive political philosophy which I will not go into. My point is that these articles have become nothing more than a propaganda tool through which these people spread their misinformation and slander those who they view as their opponents.


Village Name :Hayyal (B) Karnataka
All attempts that have been made to contribute to these articles have been reverted and labeled as vandalism. All sources that I and others have put forth to justify our edits have been rejected by the individuals in question, without reasonable grounds. Numerous attempts have been made to settle these disputes, but all have been ignored.
Taluka Name :Wadgera Yadgir
District : Yadgir
State : Karnataka
Pin Code:585223


The village Hayyal (B) falls in Yadgir district situated in Karnataka state, with a population 3479. The male and female populations are 1706 and 1773 respectively. The size of the area is about 22.48 square kilometer.
What, if anything, can be done about this? I am still quite new to the Misplaced Pages community, but have made every attempt to make meaningful contributions to no avail. The behavior I've described seems like it has absolutely no place here and has greatly diminished this project in my eyes. If you have a moment to spare, I would greatly appreciate any advice you would be able to offer.


Hayyal (B) Village with Census of India Village-code 621174 is located in Wadgera Taluk of Yadgir district in Karnataka, India.
Thank you. --] 02:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


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The village Hayyal (B) is located in Wadgera Yadgir Taluk of Yadgir District in the State of Karnataka in India. It is governed by Hayyal (b) Gram Panchayat. The nearest town is Shahpur, which is about 22 kilometers away from Hayyal (B).
Hi Bejnar. For reasons I outlined at ], I think it is better to separate out the material on the Maya archaeological site from the modern water theme park. Accordingly I've set up a separate article, ], for the latter. I also moved ] to ] as I find the archaeological site referred to without the hyphen more frequently in the literature.


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As I also note on the talk page, the water park is a private commercial enterprise, and is not really a 'national park' in the formal sense. On the otherwise fine map ] that I believe you contributed, it is marked as "Xel Ha Lagoon National Park", which does not seem to be correct- do you think you'd be able to change this description on a new version of that map? Regards, --]<font color="#DAA520"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </font><small>'']''</small> 12:42, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


There is a government primary school in the village Hayyal (B).
:Hi Bejnar (re your post at my talkpg). If it were a National Park, I would expect it to have been gazetted as such, but I can't find any mention of it at the CONANP site, or see its decree as one of the areas naturales protegidas listed at CONANP's ''Sistema de Informacion Geografica'' . Mexican govt websites are usually pretty comprehensive, so its apparent omission indicates to me that it is not a NP, or at least is not one now.
There is a government High school in the village Hayyal (B)


There is a government middle school in the village Hayyal (B).
:As for that sentence, I was planning to redescribe the site's layout, so it's not that I have a problem with it, per se. Although, I think it most unlikely that the mural is a depiction of Tlaloc, who is a central Mexican not Maya deity- the sentence probably is intended to mean ], but I was going to wait until I'd found a specific description in one of the archaeological papers before restoring/updating. Regards, (also posted at ur talkpg) --]<font color="#DAA520"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </font><small>'']''</small> 08:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)


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There is a TB clinic with 1 doctors and 1 paramedical staff in the village Hayyal (B).
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There is a allopathic hospital more than 10 kms away from Hayyal (B).
Yes, Anoshirawan has been a nuisance on the ] and ] articles. His repeated insertion of the Greater Iran template on articles about the history of modern Afghanistan is clearly unjustified. He has provided no explanation for this, bar saying that "Afghanistan was created in the 19th century by the British", without giving any source for this unprecedented claim. I've reported him for violation of ] at ]. Hopefully that will get him blocked for a short time, but clearly that's not enough.
Making a Request For Comment seems to be the correct procedure, though I don't have much experience with these things... If you take it to RFC, you can count on my support. Regards. ] 18:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


There is a alternative medicine hospital more than 10 kms away from Hayyal (B).
Thank you both for helping in resolving this matter. I have not handled the situation as well as I should. Anyhow, your efforts are greatly appreciated. I'm hoping that we can bring some much needed integrity to these articles.
--] 19:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
:I would hold off on an RFC until we see if he continues. If he does continue though, RFC is the proper venue to take the issue. ~'''] (])''' 21:00, 8 August 2007 (UTC)


There is a dispensary more than 10 kms away from Hayyal (B).
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There is a veterinary hospital with 1 doctors and 1 paramedical staff in the village Hayyal (B).
I can provide a better justification for using the ''History of Greater Iran'' template. However, I'll go by the concesus. Where is this concensus? --] 21:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


There is a mobile health centre more than 10 kms away from Hayyal (B).
:What about the History of Iran? Where did this discussion take place? The History of Iran template is relevant at least.] 23:19, 9 August 2007 (UTC)


There is a family welfare centre with 0 doctors and 1 paramedical staff in the village Hayyal (B).
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I'm not sure how easily this problem is going to go away. Just about every article I've been trying to edit keeps getting reverted. The reverts are removing not only cited, verifiable information and corrections, but also restoring weakly sourced POV material aimed at slandering the subject(s) of the articles. This is a huge problem that's affecting most of the Afghanistan articles. I'm not sure how much longer I can continue, but it seems that these two individuals have devoted all of their time and effort to their misinformation campaign.


As per available data from the year 2009, 3140 persons live in 545 house holds in the village Hayyal (B). There are 1600 female individuals and 1540 male individuals in the village. Females constitute 50.96% and males constitute 49.04% of the total population.
For an example, I'd direct you to the Mohammad Zahir Shah article.


There are 525 scheduled castes persons of which 270 are females and 255 are males. Females constitute 51.43% and males constitute 48.57% of the scheduled castes population. Scheduled castes constitute 16.72% of the total population.
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There are 25 scheduled tribes persons of which 14 are females and 11 are males. Females constitute 56% and males constitute 44% of the scheduled tribes population. Scheduled tribes constitute 0.8% of the total population.
It's really no use. This RFC process is not going anywhere. Beh-nam is brutalizing the Zahir Shah article, seemingly out of spite. I give up. This isn't worth the effort anymore. Take care and thanks for helping fight the good fight.
--] 05:01, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


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This is relevant to the history of Iran. The very name Atabegs of Azerbaijan comes from the name of the Iranian region of ]. How could it not be relevant when the very name of the dynasty is Iranian.] 16:42, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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:That makes no sense. A) How do you judge which is more important, and B) the Azebaijan in the Caucasus wasnt even in existence until 1918, that template is merely titled History of Azerbaijan, but is more about the history of the region than anything.


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:::So is the history of Iran. You are probably confused about the name Azerbaijan. The name Azerbaijan in "Atabegs of Azerbaijan" refers to ], not the country now known as Azerbaijan in the Caucasus.
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::::I know. Your trying to say that the history of Iran template is not applicable and I'm saying that it is. So both templates should be shown because the Atabegs of Azerbaijan were just as much a part of Iranian history as the history of the republic of Azerbaijan.] 18:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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This is where I get confused. I dont think you know which Azerbaijan we are talking about here. The majority of the territory of the Atabegs was in Iran:


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The underlined ones are the territories that were in Iran. So how is the History of Azerbaijan more relevant than the History of Iran template? You are contradicting yourself. You are saying that the most relevant template should be used but at the same time your saying that the history of Iran template is not relevant...] 19:57, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
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:Ok, I get what your saying. Where are you from by the way? You know a lot about the region. Thanks for the talk.] 21:48, 12 August 2007 (UTC)


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== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
About the move, thanks for your note. In fact, I tried to move it, but for some reason it did not work. I appreciate your comment.


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However, I am stunned to hear that ''Sefid River'' is the correct version! It is definitely not. A simple comparison, like and shows this, even though the correct version of the latter should be to include all spellings. Another rule of thumb is that the ''-rud'' suffix is not used in its meaning in ], just like the city names: ] is not transcribed as ''Beh city''!!! Or like the mountain names: ] is going to be rediculeous as ''Alam mountain'' or ''mount Alam''!!!!


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== re: Muhammad Zahir Shah ==


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That is an article written by Pakistanis and ofcoarse will be pro-Zahir Shah. While a newspaper written by Canada will be neutral. With all due respect, anyone who lived in Afghanistan during those times are aware of Zahir Shah's oppressions of non-Pashtuns. The source you provided doesn't count since it is pro-Zahir Shah, please provide something neutral. --] 18:37, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


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:Who are these people that you've been speaking to? Again, provide some documentation of his oppression of Persian speakers and non-Pashtuns. This article should have absolutely nothing about politics. So how about checking your opinions at the door, and contributing information that is verifiable by the rest of us. We don't have access to these people who you claim exist. Produce something... human rights violations reports, anything. Lastly, if he oppressed speakers of Farsi, then he would have to have oppressed himself and his entire family. --] 19:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


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:''I think you could use some of your own advice and stop trying to revise history. Everyone who lived in Afghanistan knows that Zahir Shah just like his father was an ethno-fascist. Just because you are from his family doesn't mean you need to cover this up. Regardless, its sourced right there and as long as that source is there that line cannot be removed. --] 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)''


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== Louis Édouard Bureau ==

Good work, you might consider to nominate it for ]. ] <font color="green">]</font> 17:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

== Hiram I ==

Thanks for the citation regarding ] and ]. ] 13:28, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

== re: Template:reflist ==

Ok, thanks for letting me. Appreciate it. -- ] 16:09, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

== MotorcycleUSA.com ==

I guess I never saw it. Sometimes people create the same article repeatedly with slightly different names every time, and only one gets tagged for speedy deletion. If our search function was a little bit better... ] 23:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
==State geological article requests==
Hi. I honestly expected wikipedia to have full detailed articles on Geology by state e.g ] or ]. I'm not even from the States but I had fully expected a detailed article on each state. Some of the American geological articles are very poor or non existent see ]. PLease could your project aim to start these articles and develop them. All the best and thanks ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 13:05, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I guess -obviously geological landforms exist regardless of frontiers but I was also thinking in terms of soil composition , sediments etc. Surely there must be different forms in different parts. The article ] is very good -perhaps because the creator is a geologist himself from the state. I guess it would be redundant for some state articles to have an article like this but I am certain more can be done. Why is the main ] article quite basic? ]</span> <sup>]</sup> 15:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

== Hotaki dynasty ==

Persian Cromwell is more reliable because it is written during that time and written by someone who was close with him. -- ] 19:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
:The evidence is that ''Persian Cromwell'' is a work of fiction written in London. --] 16:46, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==Reply==
All the article was was a list of the top 10. There was no context, no response, so there wasn't anything TO merge. Unless, you wanted to clog the Rolling Stone page up with crufty lists. As well, Rolling Stone has done dozens of greatest lists over the years, so I fail to see why it was particularily notable. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 21:04, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

== re: User:Anoshirawan ==

Well sorry for that allegation, but this was done before where a user who has a conflict with another makes an puppet account which he sets up as the user he has the conflict with. I was very upset when that happened last time because he was a great editor, it happened to ]. So I was a little paranoid of this happening again. Sorry for that. -- ] 22:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

==Mirwais Hotaki==
Just a comment, you've changed his name from Mirwais to Mir Wais, despite other encyclopedia uses Mir Wais, the correct way to spell is Mirwais, as one word. See ]. Mirwais is a common name especially among Pashtuns and mostly all spell it with one word, regardless what the name actually stands for. thanks --] 14:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

== Bryozoan ==

{{Talkback|Justin}}

== hi ==

and where did you move it?? I couldn´t find it. But i left a text that mayne can bring some lghts on the issue.

Qurdratulla (mohammed bakir) was the name Mirwais´s father..or what do you think?? Turalai Khilji??
--] 17:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)


==Bishops==
Well, thanks, we'll see how it goes. ] 23:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

== Lucky Dube ==
Hello. I reverted your move of ] to ] per ]. He is globally known by his first and surnames only, thus can see no good reason why we would want to have his middle name included in the title. If I've missed the reasoning somewhere, do let me know. Thanks. ]<font color="black">e</font>] 23:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

== ] ==

Hi. About a year ago, you moved the article ] to ], and put in a dab page with space for his supposed son ]. But MJG's only son is named Michael A. Genovese; see details at ]. I have proposed a move back to the original title; if you have any comments, please add them to the discussion. Thanks, ] 16:40, 27 October 2007 (UTC)


I didn t deleted any ''source'' nor any text phrases <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:16, 27 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Hartal==
Click on the "Editing restrictions" on the article tag or "Final resolution" on the talk tag and you go to ]. It's covered as it's in a category named there. As long as your edits are sourced and NPOV, it should not be a problem. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 20:53, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

== Edit war on ] ==

Hi, Bejnar!

Please refrain from reverting Anoshirawan's . Instead you might rather wait for what comes out of . Just keep cool, and thanks for your positive reaction on my page :-) -- ] ] 05:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

==Hotaki dynasty==
Hi, I'm informing you that the person who is vandalising ] is the banned ], using anon IPs from Germany. Any IP starting with 8xxxxx and vandalising Afghanistan related articles is him. See here for solid evidence , where he signed his name by mistake. Take the time to make a full report to administrators and they will block his IPs and also ask for page protection (]) to every article in which he is vandalising. He is also the same person as ] and ]. He's the only person that has been saying that there was no Afghanistan before 1919 since October 2006.--] 09:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


:Hi, this is Kavaiyan. I wanted to follow up this stuff - I hate Misplaced Pages being used by people to promote their own ideological or nationalist (or whatever) agenda. However, extreme RL work pressure got in my way - c'est la vie. Looks not like it's going to get better. My didn't work out with the Admins - probably no one felt like touching that on these two days, and then it all got archived.

:1) Thanks for not continuing that edit war. Patience is always a sign of seriosity (if I may say so). That user who is trying to push through his agenda called you a liar . Please keep cool about that, you may feel free to use it later on, as it's a clear breach of etiquette. He shot himself in the foot.

:2) As you already asked me for advice: I think you can now proceed directly to ]. You already had a tedious exercise requesting comments from him, and he showed himself not to be constructive in the least - like he did on my talk page. On these grounds, the admins may decide either not to mediate at all, or to shorten the process - and just block that guy and all his sock puppets & his range of IPs. I mean, he obviously edit-wars & vandalizes a number of articles, doesn't he? He seems to think he's the only one whose opinion counts, and if the admins allow such people to get through with that, WP would go downhill. You may refer to , to the (non-)discussion on the , to your and his comments on , and you may also bring forward ] evidence produced above.

:3) I only have some superficial knowledge about your region, but I assume the situation is like this (I mean this as a question, I'm really interested!): either a) that guy is Irani and has a kind of Greater-Iran-attitude towards Afghanistan and Dari-speakers; or b) it's a bit different: during decades of war, cultural production in Dari suffered very much, and for this reason nowadays the cultural influences of Iranian Persian are very strong. Maybe a knowledge (or self-identification) with Irani Persian culture gives a higher self-esteem to many Dari speakers (in order to, like, "culturally compete" with Usbeks etc.); and apart from that (or even because of that), literate people's Dari became more and more "standardized" along the model of Iranian Persian during this time. And that guy may just belong to that fold of Dari-speaking Afghans.
: Well, that's what I would expect; if you like, you may illuminate me on this point. In any way, "sit it out", be patient, you've got the better position. Don't let these people tell the world how the "real Afghanistan" is like, and don't expose yourself by reacting rashly to some troll's provocation.

:By the way: his remarks on German (, before I reverted that rubbish) show me that this guy (wherever he comes from) may live in Germany, but only has a very sub-standard knowledge of the language. In the end it may well turn out that it's the same with his Dari ... Greetings! -- ] ] 16:17, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

:PS. I just realized from GingizKhan's remarks that he called one of his (already blocked) sock puppets Tajik. Maybe really one of those Arianist Greater-Persia guys, who knows ... I guess that between Iraq & Tajikistan / China, there are enough of them around. Let him argue his points properly; if he won't, make him stop filling Misplaced Pages with his pamphlet wisdom. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 16:38, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==Blancan==
Thanks for the correction. I had left the dates as I found them. Geo When has a list of references dating up to 2001 which seem to be the source for their "followed by E Pleisto" dating. Adjust the dating as you see fit. I mainly have to do with earlier Blancan stuff ("middle Plio" of older authors like Wetmore etc) right now. It is good that you told me before I delied on the disputed info. ] 01:06, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Magdalena ==

According to the Census Bureau, Magdalena is a . You'll have to prove that the Census is wrong. ] 22:28, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
:I don't care what size it is; you'll have to give me a reference that says that the Census is wrong. By the way, the previous link was wrong: is what I meant. I don't know what size municipalities have to be to be cities or towns or villages in New Mexico, but I know that the Census Bureau is considered a reliable source, more than other sources. Note that ] says that US Census figures are the only things to be used in the Demographics sections: if you say in the intro that it's a town, then we have a discrepancy in the article, and if you change it in the Demographics also, that's not what's wanted here. ] 22:43, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
::I don't want an edit war either. You're the one prompting the changes, and I'm seeking to keep it in line with our ]. If you don't want an edit war, then don't violate the consensus that the US Census data is to be followed. ] 22:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

==Re: Ohio State Route 571==

Thank you very much for making the ] page easier for the reader to understand! I'm not the best at wording the sentences right, but I will get better in time. I have good ideas, but sometimes it takes someone else to make them great. I definitely wouldn't mind re-creating the ] and ] pages. I am very familiar with them both, especially 202. I would like to get all of the Western Ohio highways up to par in the near future. You will never get in an edit war with me, I appreciate the help very much! Thank you again!
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== Pridoli ==

There are plenty of instances in the scientific literature, I'll dig some examples out when I get the chance.
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== Pancha Carrasco (DYK nom) ==

Hi. I've nominated ], an article you worked on, for consideration to appear on the Main Page as part of ]. You can see the hook for the article at ], where you can improve it if you see fit. &mdash;&nbsp;]&nbsp;<sup>]</sup> @ 15:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

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== Outside opinion of Dari ==

Hi Bejnar - I've added my two cents to the talk page of ], though whether it'll do any good or not is another matter. I'd suggest contacting one of the wikipedians in ] - then know a bit more about resolving disputes like this than I do. Oh and yes, thanks, the exhibition went well! Not as many sales as I hoped, but good reviewsd and lots of good comments about my work. ]...''<small><font color="#008822">]</font></small>'' 04:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

== Afghani & Afghanistani ==

Just because Afghan is more commonly used, '''does not''' mean it is more correct. Have you ever heard of ]? Besides, it is sourced by Princeton's ], so all three denonyms should be mentioned since all three are used. For instance, Afghani is used '''exclusively''' by our neighboring countries of Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, and other languages in the region... Arabs call us Afghani. Keep that in mind please. -- ] (]) 04:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

: And stop bringing past discussions into this. We now have different sources and it's totally new discussion. Delete that please. -- ] (]) 04:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::I am sorry, but I don't see that the extensive discussion of last July is passé. If you mean by new sources the ones listed by ], I do not find them very convincing. Yes some English speakers do use Afghani, even fewer use Afghanistani, but by far and away the most common usage is Afghan, and by that as English speakers we do not mean Pashtun, even if Persian speakers do. When we say Afghan it includes Tajiks and Uzbeks and even Hazaras. --] (]) 04:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

::: In that particular Category move I '''did not''' have these two sources I have (] and American Heritage Dictionary. Actually I barely gave an argument for that move. So please don't try to manipulate things. -- ] (]) 04:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::I did not participate in that July discussion. ''Manipulation'' is such an interesting word. If you mean that I try to make the Misplaced Pages as objective and accurate as possible, then by all means use the word manipulate. If you mean that I intend some kind of deception, I don't see how, it is all here in front of us, and anyone else who wants to read it. --] (]) 04:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

::::: I know it's '''currently''' the most commonnly used, but it is not the most corret. Well it's a ] then. By the way, we are '''not''' saying that Afghan should be taken out. As you can see we have listed all three with an '''or''' meaning '''anyone of them''' ''can'' be used. And no that discussion was not extensive. I let that one go and I did not give enough arguments at that time. I just gave it as a suggestion and I did not even attempt to convince those admins. So please take that out. Thanks. -- ] (]) 04:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::::::I am not particularly fond of the American expression "out-of-pocket" used to mean unavailable, but my own dislike of that usage doesn't change English usage. --] (]) 04:46, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

This is an academic encyclepedia and we provide what is true and right. If English speakers use Afghan for non pashtuns then they are making a mistake and it should be corrected.Anoshirawan 04:50, 26 November 2007 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) {{{2|}}}</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Anoshirawan, I think we should include '''all three'''. That is the best solution I think. -- ] (]) 05:04, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

==Karpinsky==
Actually, I was not the one who categorized this article as a stub; I merely moved the stub notice further down without giving it much thought. Looking at the article a bit closer, I agree that it may or may not be categorized as a stub depending on the criteria one is using. I have no strong opinion about this particular article (in my view, it is in the gray area between stub and start), so if you feel that the stub notice should be removed, go right ahead; I sure ain't gonna be complaining about that :) You may also want to review the ] guideline, which is vague but occasionally helpful. Best,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); 18:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

==Article titles==
Regarding and other similar recent edits of yours, please note that romanization of Russian names should be done in accordance with ]. Also, titles should not contain patronymics unless a name is ambiguous. Please move the article accordingly (to ]) and revert your changes. Sincerely,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); 21:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks! Much appreciated.—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); 21:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks for the update. By the way, if you are planning to work on Russia-related articles in the future, you might find ] to be of interest, as it directly deals with the kind of the questions you raised above. It is still in the voting phase, but by the looks of it it will pass. Cheers,—]&nbsp;•&nbsp;(]); 22:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

==Dari and Parsi-Dari==
Hello. Sorry for replying a bit late. I made my comments in the Discussion of ]. I have suggested not to use Parsi-Dari for Gabri/Yazdi/Dari of Zoroastrians or for the Parsi of India, please refer to my comments for further explanations/sources. Thank you. ] 11:46, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:I made my last comments and edit. In fact it has been a while that I stopped contributing in wikipedia. But since I came across a point which was not supported in any reliable Persian source, I was obliged to present my point of views. Still if you're not convinced, please refer to the ] article and then to its Template. Your point is neglected there. In my point of view, it is such an important point that must be discussed and resolved. So please refer to that article and present your point of views and sources, in order to add "Parsi-Dari" in the list. I cannot frequently contribute to wikipedia, but I think in there, there are lots of contributors from the ] than can help resolve this disagreement. Thank you. ] 12:00, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

== Cordillera Oriental ==

Hi. Since you started a discussion here back in April, could you take some time add comments to a merger proposal at ]? Thanks. ]<sup> </sup><sup> ]</sup> 14:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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== please stop the Afghan nationalism ==

Do you understand no one will ever even see these terms were you've put them? Do you understand you're removing sourced content based on your own idea that it's not "preferred"? You do. But you are an Afghan nationalist and according to you people any denonym other than Afghan is against "Afghan unity" and is a threat to Pashtun domination of the country. So you have to hide these referenced terms. Misplaced Pages is not here to promote Afghan unity or Afghan nationalism and is not here to take sides. So please stop this. --<small>The preceding comment was added by IP editor ], removed by ], and restored by IP editor ] all on 9 December 2007.</small>
:I am neither an Afghan, nor a Pashtun, nor living in Asia. I am not a nationalist of any nation. I believe in objective standards for Misplaced Pages articles. I did not remove sourced content, I kept it in a footnote. The terms Afghani and Afghanistani are occasionally used, but they are not the terms preferred by Misplaced Pages editors, see the ], or general English speakers at large. Yes, I do have a preference for using the generally used and understood expressions ''in English''. --] (]) 21:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

== Help on ] ==

There is a dispute as for whether Afghanistan and Balochistan are fair game to be considered part of the Indosphere. A ] insists that it is not, making the absurd claim that it has not been, or only minorly been, influenced by (the rest of) South Asia. Considering that you RfC'd ] I am requesting that that you put in your input on the matter. Thank you, ] (]) 03:22, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


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==Categorizing with two sort keys==
Hi, Bejnar. It does no good to add a category twice, with two different sort keys, as you did at ]. Only the last one is used. Earlier ones are ignored.

Furthermore, what shows up in the category is still the article's name. Even if it did work, what you would have ended up with is a strange, unexplained "Fred Grossinger" in the listings under H.

Since ] was already a redirect, I have created a new redirect from ] and categorized that. Check out how that works, in case you want to use it in the future. (you won't have to create a new redirect if what you want to categorize already redirects to the article rather than being a disambiguation page. ] (]) 17:02, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

== RE: Sanyi, Miaoli ==

I fixed it. Thanks for the comment.--] 16:06, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

== Anwar ul Haw Ahadi ==

You should not use his book as a reference. He is the head the ] party so he is not reliable.

Iranica, Britannica, Encyclopedia of Islam... those are reliable sources.

Please revert your edits, supporting Ahadi, the head of the Afghan nationalist article... is really starting to show that you support Afghan nationalism yourself. If as you claim you do not support Afghan nationalism, then remove Ahadi as a reference. ] (]) 18:15, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:I have not edited the article on ]. My edits to ] did not include any book by Ahadi. In the article ], I did cite a 1995 article, not a book, by him that appeared in ''Asian Review'' for the limited purpose regarding actual usage in an academic publication of the word "Pashtun" to refer to the Pashtun people. I don't see how that is unreliable. --] (]) 18:48, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

== re: Edit wars ==

Again, you show that you either are an Afghan nationalist or you support Afghan nationalism. I have provided a reference for Farhad Darya being half Tajik. He keeps removing it. Do you understand that that is vandalism? There is little doubt in my mind now that you are indeed an Afghan nationalist.
By the way, that user is the sockpuppet of ]. You probably knew that though but chose to help out your fellow Afghan nationalists instead. ] (]) 18:34, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:I warned ] against edit warring, and suggested that he be civil, polite and cite reliable sources. I will give you the same advice. The ] is the place to work out issues like that, not an edit war. --] (]) 18:58, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

:: There is nothing to discuss when it is ALREADY REFERENCED! You can go look it up in the Gale Virtual Reference Library yourself and that's what it says. ] (]) 19:01, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

== revert your edits ==

Please revert all your edits on the ] article. Your edits make no sense. First of all that is a disambiguation page and you do not need to mention the transliterations for Pashtun. They can find those on the ] article. Secondly you are using weasel words.

Really poor edits. I would RV them but I don't have enough edits just yet, so you should listen to this advice and RV it yourself back to the previous version. ] (]) 23:56, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
:The points is that ''ethnologically'' the Pashtun people are ''not'' referred to as Afghans. That is purely a Persian or Farsi (and Persian or Farsi derived) usage, and neither the English nor the Ethnological usage. It is important to make that distinction, since a number of editors don't understand it, and to footnote it for the same reason. --] (]) 15:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

:: Your edit really does not make sense, because the the previous version was based on the ], the most authoritative source on Iranian studies. It says:
::*''From a more limited, ethnological point of view, "Afghān" is the term by which the Persian-speakers of Afghanistan (and the non-Paštō-speaking ethnic groups generally) designate the Paštūn. The equation Afghan Paštūn has been propagated all the more, both in and beyond Afghanistan, because the Paštūn tribal confederation is by far the most important in the country, numerically and politically. The term "Afghān" has probably designated the Paštūn since ancient times. Under the form Avagānā, this ethnic group is first mentioned by the Indian astronomer Varāha Mihira in the beginning of the 6th century CE in his Brihat-samhita.'' ( "Afghan" (with ref. to "Afghanistan: iv. Ethnography") by Ch. M. Kieffer, Encyclopaedia Iranica Online Edition 2006)
:: The ] says:
::*''"Afghānistān has borne that name only since the middle of the 18th century, when the supremacy of the Afghan race (Pashtuns) became assured: previously various districts bore distinct apellations, but the country was not a definite political unit, and its component parts were not bound together by any identity of race or language. The earlier meaning of the word was simply “the land of the Afghans”, a limited territory which did not include many parts of the present state but did comprise large districts now either independent or within the boundary of Pakistan."'' (M. Longworth Dames, G. Morgenstierne, R. Ghirshman, "Afghānistān", in Encyclopaedia of Islam, Online Edition)
:: ], Pashto's most famous poet, writes:
::*''Pull out your sword and slay any one, that says Pashton and Afghan are not one! Arabs know this and so do Romans: Afghans are Pashtons, Pashtons are Afghans!'' (extract from "Passion of the Afghan" by Khushal Khan Khattak; translated by C. Biddulph in "Afghan Poetry Of The 17th Century: Selections from the Poems of Khushal Khan Khattak", London, 1890)
:: It is indeed who you who got the wrong impression that "Afghan" has not an ethnological meaning. In fact, it does and it is still used as such. In video of former Afghan president, ] (himself an Ahmadzai Pashtun), you can see that he refers to Pashtuns as "Afghan", while he calls the other ethnic groups by their names (i.e. Tahik, Hazara, etc). For the disambiguation page it's totally enough to say that "Afghan" is used by Persian-speakers mainly (that's indeed what the page was saying before you changed it). "Pathan" is only used by Indians and is even more uncommon than "Afghan".

== Demograohy of Afghanistan ==

While you reverted the edits of ], you also deleted the following information:

*''The term '''Afghan''', though (historically) synonymous with '''Pashtun''', is promoted as a national identity.<ref name="Iranica"> (with ref. to "Afghanistan: iv. Ethnography") by Ch. M. Kieffer, ] Online Edition 2006: ''"... The equation Afghan Paštūn has been propagated all the more, both in and beyond Afghanistan, because the Paštūn tribal confederation is by far the most important in the country, numerically and politically. ..."''</ref> As such, all constitutions drafted since the early 20th century have declared '''Afghan''' as the official nationality for all citizens of Afghanistan. However, this does not address questions of ethnicity, for ], ], ] and others still feel strong ethnic ties. In order to solve the problem, in recent years, the term '''Afghanistani'''<ref>afghanistani. Dictionary.com. ]® 3.0. ]. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/afghanistani (accessed: November 25, 2007).</ref> (analogous to ''Uzbekistani''<ref></ref>, ''Pakistani''<ref></ref>, or ''Tajikistani''<ref></ref>) has been suggested for the citizens of Afghanistan in contrast to (ethnic) Afghans who would be the Pashtuns. The idea is supported by some notable politicians within Afghanistan, for example by ].''

Please keep the information about ''Afghanistani'' and Latif Pedram. I will also add sources to it in the next few days, as well as present a news-paper article by Pedram in which he challanges the word "Afghan" and proposes a general namechange of Afghanistan to "Aryana". Thank you. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:Who is Latif Pedram, and why is he authoritative? Don't change things until you have proper reliable sources. --] (]) 02:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

:: Latif Pedram is not authoritative, but he is a politician within Afghanistan who is challenging the word "Afghan". That means that there <u>is</u> a group within Afghanistan that <u>suggests</u> the word "Afghanistani" instead of "Afghan". And ] has shown you a picture which clearly shows that "Afghanistani" <u>is</u> being used <u>within</u> Afghanistan.
:: BTW, the ] and ] '''are''' authoritative. In case of the latter, you are ignoring sources.
:::The Encyclopaedia Iranica says "AFGÚAÚN, Ch. M. Kieffer In current political usage, any citizen of Afghanistan, whatever his ethnic, tribal, or religious affiliation. According to the 1977 constitution of the Republic of Afghanistan (1973-78), all Afghans are equal in rights and obligations before the law. In an attempt to alleviate the inevitable tensions and conflicts of an ethnically diverse state, the republic discouraged reference to ethnic or tribal origin and prohibited the use of personal names that evoke an ethnic group (such as Afr^d^, Ahámadzay, OÚrmurá, Nu@rzay, Po@palzay, Wardak, etc. ..." So don't change things. --] (]) 02:41, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:::: I am not changing things but given you the complete article. The same article also says:
::::*''From a more limited, <u>ethnological</u> point of view, "Afghān" is the term by which the <u>Persian-speakers</u> of Afghanistan (<u>and the non-Paštō-speaking ethnic groups generally</u>) '''designate''' the Paštūn. The equation Afghan Paštūn has been propagated all the more, <u>both in and beyond Afghanistan</u>, because the Paštūn tribal confederation is by far the most important in the country, numerically and politically. The term "Afghān" has probably designated the Paštūn since ancient times. Under the form Avagānā, this ethnic group is first mentioned by the Indian astronomer Varāha Mihira in the beginning of the 6th century CE in his Brihat-samhita.
:::: That's exactly what the article ] said before you changed it. The different spellings of Pashtun are totally irrelevant in that page and belong to the ] article where they are already listed. Also note that the article says ''designate'' and not ''designated''.
::::The Encyc. Irania may use the word <u>ethnological</u>, but ethnologists don't use Afghan for an ethnic group. Persian speakers may use Afghan for the ethnic group, English speakers generally don't. --] (]) 02:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::: First of all, this is wrong. "Afghan" is being used as a synonym for the Pashtuns, even among scholars. And the article "Afghan" in Iranica '''is written by linguists and ethnologists'''. So you are indeed ignoring an authoritative source just to prove your own point. See for example who says: ''"Afghan nationalism is <u>essentially</u> Pashtun nationalism"''. Here are some other academic sources:
::::: Here is another very good source: . Make sure you read ALL of it! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 03:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
::::::Not proved. Just for example, ''Development and Change'' is not an ethnographic publication. --] (]) 03:44, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Bejnar, but the articles of the EI and EIr '''are''' ethnographic and written by leading linguists! So far, you have not proved your point. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== ] ==

I don't know who is Fred Grossinger and I don't know the show "Girl in My Life". And I believe the show "Girl in My Life" is '''not''' a '''game show'''. It was a non-fiction and a classic reality show. According to ]. I'm telling you it is '''not''' a '''game show'''. You're saying rude comments to me. Please do not send me a message. ] (]) 05:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
:I didn't think that I was being rude, if so I apologize. I said "You said in your edit of 3 January 2008 on the ] article that "He did not host a game show on his appearance" and removed the category "American game show hosts". However the imdb entry for "Girl in My Life" (1973) shows that he was the host of that program. Do you have a more reliable source that contradicts that? Or is your problem with the fact that "Girl in My Life" was only loosely a "game show", even though the ''contestants'' did walk away with ''prizes''?" --] (]) 05:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== Girl in My Life ==

According to another website, faqs.org, It was a '''loosely''' or a '''half''' game show. It was on "List of U.S. game shows". I apologize for my disagreement on a game show. On the previous message just ignore the previous message. So, I apologize for my disagreement. ] (]) 06:19, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

== ] & ] ==

Mea culpa. I guess that in this case it was overkill on my part. But then I see that you fixed it. ] 23:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

==Afghanistan template==

:I don't know if my suggestions were at all helpful at resolving the dispute but I support what you are trying do to the page there and people keep gutting the template. ] (]) 06:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

Thanks for the message. In following the debate around the user who is replacing Afghan with Tajik, and Dari with Persian, I've learned a bit more.
Generally, though, I don't have a dog in this fight, and just watch this cause I found this article uncatted and a mess and did some wikifing of it last year ( and again recently).
Please do what you think is best, but I would suggest that whatever it means in Afghanistan, "Afghan" is what one calls a person from there in English. I'd like to see that in the lead, as the articles from the Afghan Embassy stress this person's importance as a national symbol. I'm happy to help, but my areas of knowledge don't really cover this (which is why it's so interesting to me). Cheers, ] (]) 17:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

== Official denonym is '''Kyrgyzstsani''' ==

According to the ], '''Kyrgyzstani''' (<u>not</u> ''Kyrgyz'' is the official denonym (). This is because the government of Kyrgystan distinguishes between ethnicity and nationality (Kyrgyz is 64.9% of Kyrgystan). ] (]) 21:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

== ] ==

This user is no longer changing "Afghan" to "Afghanistani", which as I understand it was the big issue resulting in the ban. I don't know the topic well enough to be confident in blocking RealAfghan112 based on today's edits. ] (]) 05:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

== Not Turco-Mongol==
About in ] article: Hazara people arn't turk noway. your edit havn't any References. please not change again. ] (]) 10:20, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
:The references are there. --] (]) 22:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Agenda? ==

What agenda? My only goal is to provide accurate information. By looking at your contributions it is clear your agenda is anti-Tajik and anti-Persian. You clearly support both ] and Afghan-nationalism just for the sake of being anti-Persian. I'm not sure about your background. What is your background? ] (]) 23:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

== Afghanistan Demographics ==

Britannica's numbers are from the early 1900s. Iranica is the most reliable and CIA is ok too. ] (]) 02:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

:Ironically, the user that insists on Britannica's numbers from the early 1900s complains that CIA's numbers are not recent enough. ] (]) 02:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::The ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' updated their demographic figures for Afghanistan in 2006. They don't match the 1911 ones, because there were no ethnic figures for Afghanistan in the 1911 edition of the ''Encyclopedia Britannica''. So, what are you talking about? --] (]) 23:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

== Point is 2008 version says something else ==

Not 1911, but early 20th century is where these '''estimates''' are from. To read what the 2008 Britannicaa actually says :

{{cquote|<big>''... No national census has been conducted in Afghanistan since a partial count in 1979, and years of war and population dislocation have made an accurate ethnic count impossible. Current population estimates are therefore rough approximations, which show that Pashtuns comprise somewhat '''<u>less than two-fifths of the population</u>'''. The two largest Pashtun tribal groups are the Durrani and Ghilzay. Tajiks are likely to account for some <u>one-fourth</u> of Afghans and Hazara nearly </u>one-fifth</U>. Uzbeks and Chahar Aimaks each account for slightly more than 5 percent of the population and Turkmen an even smaller portion. ...''</big>}}

Even '''if''' those were 2006, 2008 version of Britannica says the above.

] (]) 23:10, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
::If you will check back, you will see that your quoted language is unchanged from the 2005 printed version of the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' (the oldest new one that I have handy), and is probably older, as, at a quick glance, the article only appears to cite up to 2001. The World Data sheet was prepared in 2006. --] (]) 23:33, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

::: They did not include it in the 2008 version so they must have thought there was something wrong it. ] (]) 01:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== Vietnamese in Thailand ==

Interesting--thanks, are you going to add them to ]? They're only in the template now. ] (]) 21:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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== I need your help ==

I need your help on the ] article. The article was nominated for good article status and it is very close to passing, but the reviewer has placed its passing on hold because first he wants some changes. He has listed the changes he wants on the talk page of the article. Please review them and fix the things that he requested. I would do it but I don't have time right now. We have 7 days to make these improvements listed. Thanks. ] (]) 22:41, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

== References/notes ==

I understand well that things should not be changed back and forth when there is no preference. However, there is a preference for community articles: the ] strongly prefer the titles that I've put in. ] (]) 15:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:Look at the ]. The guidelines are set up so that each header ("History", "Geography", "Demographics", etc.) is the actual name of a section in the article. ] (]) 17:56, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
::If you look at typical community articles, that's how it's done. The guidelines say specifically not to include anything except either <nowiki>{{reflist}} or <references/></nowiki> in those sections; that's what the further reading is for. ] (]) 18:12, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
*See full discussion at ].--] (]) 19:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm sorry, but this is the way that it's done with community articles. If you have an issue with it, you'd do better to talk with the WP:CITY people. ] (]) 05:13, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

== You failed on the ] article ==

You had a week to help the article become GA and failed. It is very disappointing. ] (]) 00:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

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-- -- SashiRolls 14:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)

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