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== degree at Yale == |
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<ref>]</ref>Jodie Foster graduated Calhoun College (now Hopper College) at Yale College with a B.A. in Comparative Literature. Note, undergraduates from Yale graduate from both their residential college and Yale college. There are 2 separate ceremonies, and one receives a diploma at each. The Master of each residential college speaks at the ceremony at the residential college. In Foster's case, this person would have been the Reverend David Napier, who was the well-liked Master of Calhoun College(now Hopper College.) I do not have a referenCe for that, but I'm sure Yale, Hopper College, and/or Yale Alumni OrganiZation has those, if anyone cares. What is more important is that I very rarely see Foster's degree correctly described. It's described as English quite often, and here it is described as Literature. The Literature Major (which no longer exists at Yale College,) was a separate major, with separate, different requirements, and many more courses in continental philosophy. While there is some literary criticism in Comparative Literature, there is not much. There was much in The Literature Major. There were few required courses in The Literature Major, and it was truly interdisciplinary. As long as your "focus" was approved, late in your sophomore or early in your junior year, you could take many courses from various departments, as long as you were able to relate them to your focus. So you could take courses in Art History, Archeology, Anthropology, History, English, written texts in various languages or translated from various languages (and if they weren't offered, you could often finagle a tutorial,) etc. Then your senior essay encompasses 1-2 semesters (likely depending on length) and related to your focus. Comparative Literature, on the other hand, required more courses of texts written in the foreign language of the student's choice, in various other disciplines, as well as courses in various disciplines translated from that language. (This was usually only one language, and since Foster was only fluent in French, I assume this is what she used. Although I knew her, we shared no classes, and she was actually at Yale very little, but off acting in films and television after finishing the semester's work early.) |
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So, I have seen Foster's major listed as Literature (there wasn't even a major called "Literature" then, and there is not one now; it was named "The Literature Major," and I happen to know as it was my major, as well as the major of several other people more well-known and more intelligent than I.) Nor did Foster major in African-American Studies, as is stated in the Misplaced Pages article about Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Yes, he was her advisor, and he taught a course in the Women's Studies Department (which has since been renamed twice since it was founded in 1979,) called "African American Women and Their Fictions." So that article merits correction as well. |
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== GA / FA drive == |
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https://complit.yale.edu/ |
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Notes / questions before submitting for GA / FA: |
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* There are three super-huge tables at the end of the article - do we need all three? |
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* I'm thinking of trimming half of the second paragraph of the lede and removing the "Midas touch" statement - thoughts? |
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* Where are citations needed? I'm pretty good at finding them. |
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* Andy's book? |
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-- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 19:47, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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:Should the controversy regarding John Hinkley, Jr. be a part of her personal life? Right now the article is separated in decades. I foresee an FA reviewer suggesting it be given thematic headings, such as "Child star", "Film career", "Oscar roles" (subheading), and "Personal life" where Hinkley and her brother's book would be addressed. --] (]) 20:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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::Hm - thematic headings is probably better than time headings. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] | ])</small></span> 22:38, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Foster is mentioned as a "famous comparatist" in this blurb from The Department of Comparative Literature at Indiana U. |
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== mother supported her by being a producer or ''working for a producer''? == |
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I think this statement was copied wrongly from the Internet. If her mother was a producer then she would have her own entry in Misplaced Pages and an IMDB page. If she worked for a producer which one? --] (]) 21:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC) |
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https://comparativeliterature.indiana.edu/undergraduate/whycomplit.shtml |
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Uh, yeah, Foster is indeed and in fact a homosexual. Openly gay actor ] said so as he criticized her for not being out earlier and not helping other LGBT come out as well. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Someone wrote about this at afterellen.com. . --] (]) 16:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==Jodie Foster's command of the French language== |
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== Semi-protected edit request on 6 January 2025 == |
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A few weeks back, I edited out mentions that Jodie Foster dubs herself in the french-language versions of her films, as I had heard her dubbed by another actress in several movies (in "Silence of the Lambs", she was dubbed by someone else). Actually, I could see yesterday "Panic Room" on a French Channel and she definitely dubbed herself, so I guess she has been dubbing herself for a few years now (I should have checked before, as I tend to watch movies with subtitles and not dubbed) : I put back the info. I also added links to videos of her speaking French in an interview, and singing a song in French in the 1970s. ] (]) 09:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:Thanks! :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] / ])</small></span> 15:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC) |
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::FYI, Foster's French is simply amazing, I'd even say she puts some French people to shame. She speaks the language with a peculiar, nasal, pronunciation, which often does not sound like a foreign accent at all : she only reverts to actual American accent when using English names or words. Hearing her speak, one may think that she is either Swiss, Belgian, or from the Far East of France. It is only when you hear her speak for about five minutes that you realize that she is Anglo-saxon (but she still sounds like she spent the last 25 years living in France full time). While dubbing herself in French, she manages, through acting skills, to sound even less foreign, with only occasional word pronunciations reminding you that she is not French, and that is only if you pay attention closely. In "A very long engagement", she was supposed to play a foreigner, so she did not restrain her accent; I even think that she made it sound stronger (still not sounding American, as she was playing a Polish woman, if memory helps). ] (]) 21:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC) |
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== Mensa == |
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As of 1/6/25, Jodie Foster has been nominated for 10 Golden Globes and has won 5 Golden Globes per the Golden Globe TV broadcast airing 1/6/25. ] (]) 03:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC) |
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Is that really a ]? It looks like an Op/Ed piece. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] / ])</small></span> 16:00, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
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:{{Not done}}: please provide ] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> ] (]) 04:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:I wouldn't take it as a reliable source since it's in an editorial, but I might be able to find another one that's better. --] (]) 16:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==A few months== |
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The statement that Lucius left the family "a few months" before Jodie was born is not actually a quote from the article cited. The article merely implies that the parents had already seperated or divorced. It does not imply when this occurred. Buddy Foster's book states that they divorced *in* 1959 and that Jodie's conception happened much later, during one of their mother's visits to get child-support payments.] (]) 23:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC) |
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==Interpreted== |
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I put back one part where we had previously said that the press "reacted to it as if she had come out", and now I've stated it that the press "interpreted" it as if she had come out. I didn't really like the "reacted" word as it seemed sort of stand-offish. "Interpreted" seems much more direct and explicit regarding the press' reaction to her comments. ] (]) 23:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC) |
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== foster's sexuality == |
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as the article states, she is intensely private, and has not "come out". until she comes out, it's inappropriate to add her to the categories "Lesbian Actresses" and "LGBT people from the United States". her sexuality is ''her'' business, not yours, or ours. show respect for ''her'' choice not to share the intimate details of her life with the public. it is for her to state "i am a lesbian" if and when she should choose to do so. until that time - and until a ] publishes that statement - it's inappropraite to push one's assumptions onto the article, and list her as something she has not chosen to identify herself as. there's no value judgement in it on my part, i'd be just as delighted if she were listed in those categories as not - but only on the basis of whether '''she''' has chosen to make that identification. on the other hand, if user AMK1211 has a ] to back up the claim that she's come out - please provide it. until then, please stop. ] (]) 08:51, 25 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:To follow up on that, to say that "the press" interpreted her statement as coming out is vague at best. Are there references or examples of "the press" making this assumption? Was it the blogosphere, the tabloids, the NY Post?? Makes a difference. -] (]) 19:05, 25 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:First of all, I would like to know who you are, Anastrophe, to determine what is and is not a "reliable source." New York Times? Washington Post? Reuters? They rarely cover the personal lives of celebrities. And if I come in here and cite a thousand sources like or or or you'll just shoot them down saying they're too gossippy or not mainstream enough or have a "gay bias" or something absurd. My next point is, why must she use the words "I am a lesbian" in public for it to "count," why can't she say something like, oh I don't know, ''"I'm not sure I've managed to deserve the family of friends that surrounds me...my beautiful Cydney who sticks with me through all the rotten and the bliss, here we all are, after so many years, getting older together, staying young together; thank you all for holding me and being in this together." '' She's a private person and this is ''her'' way of saying "I am a lesbian." Also, why doesn't, say, Nicole Kidman need to say "I am a heterosexual" before anyone else is allowed to acknowledge it? Additionally, it's not as if this is a case of alleging someone like Tom Cruise (for example) is gay, when it's pretty obvious he likes women because he lives with a woman and has a kid with her. Oh wait, Jodie lives with a woman (for '''''14 years''''') and raises ''two'' kids with her...''']'''<sup>]</sup> 04:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::AMK, before you get too upset at one editor, you might want to review the talk page here. We've been over this several times already. Consensus (and ]) says that she's not a lesbian until she says she is. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] / ])</small></span> 04:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
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:::OK, I get what you're saying and I respect that, but things have changed since consensus was reached on this issue. She ''has'' said it. |
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:::Also, the Guardian article was used as a reference before I started pissing y'all off yesterday. It says she lives with Bernard, and it says she came out. Why can you use the article to verify one fact but not the other? ''']'''<sup>]</sup> 04:29, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
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::::Really? Can you point out to me where in the Guardian article, or in fact any other article, there's a quote from Foster where she says "I'm a lesbian"? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">] <small>(] / ])</small></span> 04:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
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Jodie Foster graduated Calhoun College (now Hopper College) at Yale College with a B.A. in Comparative Literature. Note, undergraduates from Yale graduate from both their residential college and Yale college. There are 2 separate ceremonies, and one receives a diploma at each. The Master of each residential college speaks at the ceremony at the residential college. In Foster's case, this person would have been the Reverend David Napier, who was the well-liked Master of Calhoun College(now Hopper College.) I do not have a referenCe for that, but I'm sure Yale, Hopper College, and/or Yale Alumni OrganiZation has those, if anyone cares. What is more important is that I very rarely see Foster's degree correctly described. It's described as English quite often, and here it is described as Literature. The Literature Major (which no longer exists at Yale College,) was a separate major, with separate, different requirements, and many more courses in continental philosophy. While there is some literary criticism in Comparative Literature, there is not much. There was much in The Literature Major. There were few required courses in The Literature Major, and it was truly interdisciplinary. As long as your "focus" was approved, late in your sophomore or early in your junior year, you could take many courses from various departments, as long as you were able to relate them to your focus. So you could take courses in Art History, Archeology, Anthropology, History, English, written texts in various languages or translated from various languages (and if they weren't offered, you could often finagle a tutorial,) etc. Then your senior essay encompasses 1-2 semesters (likely depending on length) and related to your focus. Comparative Literature, on the other hand, required more courses of texts written in the foreign language of the student's choice, in various other disciplines, as well as courses in various disciplines translated from that language. (This was usually only one language, and since Foster was only fluent in French, I assume this is what she used. Although I knew her, we shared no classes, and she was actually at Yale very little, but off acting in films and television after finishing the semester's work early.)
So, I have seen Foster's major listed as Literature (there wasn't even a major called "Literature" then, and there is not one now; it was named "The Literature Major," and I happen to know as it was my major, as well as the major of several other people more well-known and more intelligent than I.) Nor did Foster major in African-American Studies, as is stated in the Misplaced Pages article about Henry Louis Gates, Jr. Yes, he was her advisor, and he taught a course in the Women's Studies Department (which has since been renamed twice since it was founded in 1979,) called "African American Women and Their Fictions." So that article merits correction as well.
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Ultraodan (talk) 04:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)