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== Article improvement ==
I feel, one of the key article of this wikiproject, ] needs a good revision and copy edit. I would love to help in the process as much as viable. Being a civil engineering student I am unknown of some key terms. In addition, i see the need of forming a new article ] much famous in South asian countries including ] and ] to flourish the information regarding the subject and make the area of study open to fellow readers.] (])

== EV battery suppliers added to WikiProject? ==

Automotive suppliers such as ] and ] are part of the Automotive WikiProject, despite not producing cars themselves. Should battery companies like ], which are most prominent for their supply of automotive battery cells and technologies, also be added to this WikiProject? Additionally, should companies like ], ], and ], who are not primarily based in EV battery supply but are still major players in the space, also be added to the WikiProject? ] (]) 18:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

:In my opinion they should be added, does anyone have any objections? ] (]) 18:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
::Seems to be a no-brainer with no downside. ] (]) 16:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

== Requested move at ] ==
] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 22:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 03:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

== Two articles with the same scope ==

Just wondering, why do we have two articles about the list of automobile manufacturers in China: ] and ]? Should we merge it? Pinging {{ping|Infinty 0}} as the creator of the latter article.

A little bit context by the way, ] is apparently a spin-off of ] after these sections were due to " citation and improper synthesis", can't see why it should be an own article if it was apparently not proper enough to be in an article. ] (]) 16:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

:I think one can be deleted or merged. ]] 17:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Agree, merge. ] (]) 18:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Oppose.
:The article of ] is more about the development of China's automobile industry at the macro perspective, focusing more on China's industry policies, development status and history in chronological order.
:The article of ] is more about the current situation of Chinese manufacturers at more micro perspective. China is different from most countries in the world which has the world's largest automobile industry and market (larger than the United States and Europe combined), and more than 10 major manufacturers and more than 140 automobile brands as numerous as the stars, which deserves the spotlight. The two articles have different perspectives, themes, and logic, so the spin-off is necessary.
:As for the problem of citations, it has been updated in the ]. It is welcome for anyone who disagrees to challenge it at the specific description.
:The article of ] is even more different. It is a list-type article, which is more about listing the facts as briefly and completely as possible. There should be an article to depict a more detailed and focused portrait of Chinese automobile manufacturers, like the general introductions, their positions in the landscape of automobile market, and conclusion of their different characteristics, which is exactly the purpose of the article of ]. ] (]) 00:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::If each of the manufacturers and/or brands are notable, they should have their own articles. ] (]) 13:17, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Not each, but major ones. There are 12 major manufacturers in China, each with an annual production of more than 500,000 units, and four of them are above 2 million unit per year, and they do need a overview information to help readers understand the current layout and landscape of Chinese auto market. ] (]) 13:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
::::'''Merge''', no real difference in scope. <span style="background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;">]]</span> 16:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

== Good article reassessment for ] ==
] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the ]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. ] (]) 22:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


==Datsun 510==
I nominated this ], on the clear grounds that the title doesn't meet the guidelines for cars sold internationally under a wide range of names. Calling it Datsun 510 is americentric and also leads to confusion since the "510" name was also used on the Violet/Stanza (A10) in North America. ] should be a disambiguation page like ] and ]. Please review ] and weigh in ]. Best, <span style="background:#ff0000;font-family:Times New Roman;">]]</span> 16:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Article improvement

I feel, one of the key article of this wikiproject, Automotive engineering needs a good revision and copy edit. I would love to help in the process as much as viable. Being a civil engineering student I am unknown of some key terms. In addition, i see the need of forming a new article Automobile engineering much famous in South asian countries including Nepal and India to flourish the information regarding the subject and make the area of study open to fellow readers.Franked2004 (talk)

EV battery suppliers added to WikiProject?

Automotive suppliers such as Denso and Bosch are part of the Automotive WikiProject, despite not producing cars themselves. Should battery companies like CATL, which are most prominent for their supply of automotive battery cells and technologies, also be added to this WikiProject? Additionally, should companies like Panasonic, Samsung SDI, and EVE Energy, who are not primarily based in EV battery supply but are still major players in the space, also be added to the WikiProject? Needlesballoon (talk) 18:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion they should be added, does anyone have any objections? Needlesballoon (talk) 18:41, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
Seems to be a no-brainer with no downside. Andra Febrian (talk) 16:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Trim level (automotive)#Requested move 28 November 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Trim level (automotive)#Requested move 28 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Raladic (talk) 22:19, 28 November 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for American automobile industry in the 1950s

American automobile industry in the 1950s has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 03:25, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Two articles with the same scope

Just wondering, why do we have two articles about the list of automobile manufacturers in China: List of automobile manufacturers of China and Automobile manufacturers and brands of China? Should we merge it? Pinging @Infinty 0: as the creator of the latter article.

A little bit context by the way, Automobile manufacturers and brands of China is apparently a spin-off of Automotive industry in China after these sections were purged due to " citation and improper synthesis", can't see why it should be an own article if it was apparently not proper enough to be in an article. Andra Febrian (talk) 16:22, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I think one can be deleted or merged. 750h+ 17:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Agree, merge. Rally Wonk (talk) 18:18, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Oppose.
The article of Automotive industry in China is more about the development of China's automobile industry at the macro perspective, focusing more on China's industry policies, development status and history in chronological order.
The article of Automobile manufacturers and brands of China is more about the current situation of Chinese manufacturers at more micro perspective. China is different from most countries in the world which has the world's largest automobile industry and market (larger than the United States and Europe combined), and more than 10 major manufacturers and more than 140 automobile brands as numerous as the stars, which deserves the spotlight. The two articles have different perspectives, themes, and logic, so the spin-off is necessary.
As for the problem of citations, it has been updated in the Automobile manufacturers and brands of China. It is welcome for anyone who disagrees to challenge it at the specific description.
The article of List of automobile manufacturers of China is even more different. It is a list-type article, which is more about listing the facts as briefly and completely as possible. There should be an article to depict a more detailed and focused portrait of Chinese automobile manufacturers, like the general introductions, their positions in the landscape of automobile market, and conclusion of their different characteristics, which is exactly the purpose of the article of Automobile manufacturers and brands of China. Infinty 0 (talk) 00:20, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
If each of the manufacturers and/or brands are notable, they should have their own articles. Rally Wonk (talk) 13:17, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Not each, but major ones. There are 12 major manufacturers in China, each with an annual production of more than 500,000 units, and four of them are above 2 million unit per year, and they do need a overview information to help readers understand the current layout and landscape of Chinese auto market. Infinty 0 (talk) 13:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Merge, no real difference in scope.  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Electric vehicle warning sounds

Electric vehicle warning sounds has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)


Datsun 510

I nominated this for a move, on the clear grounds that the title doesn't meet the guidelines for cars sold internationally under a wide range of names. Calling it Datsun 510 is americentric and also leads to confusion since the "510" name was also used on the Violet/Stanza (A10) in North America. Datsun 510 should be a disambiguation page like Datsun 810 and Datsun 210. Please review WP:CARNAMES and weigh in here. Best,  Mr.choppers | ✎  16:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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