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<big>'''Case Opened''' on 00:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)</big> <big>'''Case Opened''' on 00:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)</big>
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<div style="text-align: right;"><small><font style="background: white">Watchlist all case pages: <span class="plainlinks">, , , </span></font></small></div> <big>'''Case Amended ''' on 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)</big>
<big>'''Case amended by ]''' on 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)</big>
<div style="text-align: right;"><small><span style="background: white">Watchlist all case pages: <span class="plainlinks">, , , </span></span></small></div>


Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this case. Only add a statement here after the case has begun if you are named as a party; otherwise, your statement may be placed on the ], and will be read in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at ]. Evidence is more useful than comments. Please do not edit this page directly unless you wish to become a participant in this case. Only add a statement here after the case has begun if you are named as a party; otherwise, your statement may be placed on the ], and will be read in full. Evidence, no matter who can provide it, is very welcome at ]. Evidence is more useful than comments.
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==Remedies== ==Remedies==
===Discretionary sanctions=== ===Discretionary sanctions===
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1) Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the ] if that editor fails to adhere to the ], the ], or the ]. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; restrictions on reverts; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project. Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision.
1) <s>Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the ] if that editor fails to adhere to the ], the ], or the ]. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; restrictions on reverts; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project. Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision.</s>


:''Passed 6-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).'' :''Passed 6-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).''
::''Superseded by an ] passed 14 to 0, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)''
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===Appeal of discretionary sanctions=== ===Appeal of discretionary sanctions===
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2.1) ] imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue. The Committee will consider appropriate remedies including suspension or revocation of adminship in the event of violations.
2.1) <s>] imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue. The Committee will consider appropriate remedies including suspension or revocation of adminship in the event of violations.</s>


:''Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).'' :''Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).''
::''Superseded by an ] passed 14 to 0, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)''
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===Standard discretionary sanctions===
==Enforcement==
{{anchor|Discretionary sanctions motion (2011)}}
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3) <s>Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under ]. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an ] action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning.</s>
:''Passed 14 to 0 by <span class="plainlinks"></span>, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)''
::''Superseded by ] at 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)''
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==Amendments==
===Logging of sanctions===
=== Motion: Eastern Europe and Balkans scope (February 2019) ===
1) All sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision are to be logged at ].
{{Ivmbox|1=At ] in {{ArbCase|Eastern Europe}}, ''Eastern Europe'' is replaced as text by ''Eastern Europe or the Balkans''. ] in {{ArbCase|Macedonia}} is superseded by this amendment.}}
:''Passed 5 to 0 by ] at 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)''


==Enforcement==
:''Passed 6-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).''
{{Arbitration standard provisions}}


==Log of blocks and bans== ==Log of notifications==
{{anchor|Log of warnings}}
Log any block, ban or extension under any remedy in this decision here. Minimum information includes name of administrator, date and time, what was done and the basis for doing it.
This is an incomplete list of editors who have been notified or warned of discretionary sanctions (by means of the template {{purple|<nowiki>{{subst:alert|topic=b}}</nowiki>}} or otherwise) required for the imposition of ]. No new notifications should be listed here.


===2010 notifications===
Useful user talk templates: {{tl|uw-balkans}} (assumes good faith) and {{tl|uw-balkans2}} (use after disruption)
* {{userlinks|Sulmues}} warned at by <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 06:37, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
* {{userlinks|Kedadi}} warned at by ''']<sup>See ] or ]</sup>''' 10:01, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|ZjarriRrethues}} warned at by ] (]) 10:56, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Kushtrim123}} warned at by ] (]) 18:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Piasoft}} warned at by ] (]) 18:09, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Ajdebre}}warned at ] <small>(])</small> 16:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|JorisvS}} warned at . ] 23:00, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Chipmunkdavis}} warned at . ] 23:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Yopie}} by ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 16:00, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Meeso}} warned at by ] (]) 16:37, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
*{{User|Svrznik}} warned at by ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 22:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Jack Sparrow 3}} warned at . ] 11:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Ivan Štambuk}} warned at . ] (]) 02:38, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Kubura}} warned at . ] (]) 02:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Vodomar}} warned at . ] (]) 02:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Hammer of Habsburg}} . ] (]) 03:03, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Taivo}} warned at . ] (]) 03:05, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Roberta F.}} warned at . ] (]) 03:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Antidiskriminator}} warned at . ] (]) 23:18, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|212.200.65.73}} notified and cautioned about ethnic POV-pushing regarding Serbia and Kosovo. ] (]) 05:08, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
*{{user|Pnsx}} warned . ] (]) 22:19, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
===2011 notifications===
*{{user|Makedonovlah}} warned: . --]''''']''''' 18:53, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Eddie1kanobi}} warned . ] (]) 14:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
*The human behind {{user:89.164.7.154}} warned . ] 22:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Sundostund}} warned ] <small>(])</small> 02:57, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
*{{User|VJ-Yugo}} following concerns re neutrality raised at milhist. ]<sup>]</sup> 10:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
*{{User|Scrosby85}} of ARBMAC (edit-warring re Serbian/Croatian nationality on ]) ]<sup>]</sup> 10:34, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
*{{User|Fn1m}} banned from all pages relating to the RoM, due to page-move disruption. ] (]) 13:15, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Pensionero}} notified due to an concerning ]. ] (]) 05:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|2z}} . ] (]) 14:36, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Adler87}} due to an edit-warring block concerning ]. ] (]) 23:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|John Gradwell}} 5th April 2011 for edit-warring. ] <sup><small>]</small></sup>] 12:09, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|PRODUCER}} . ] 04:50, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|FkpCascais}} . ] 04:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|VVVladimir}} ] 04:54, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|71.178.115.169}} notified.] <sup><small>]</small></sup>] 15:08, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{User|Biblbroks}} is warned for POV editing and violation of the 1RR/week restriction at ] per , after an AE discussion. ] (]) 03:50, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Davide41}} is warned for edit warring and POV-pushing at ] per , after a report at ANI. ] (]) 04:14, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Luciano di Martino}} is warned for nationalist edit warring and removal of sources at ] per . Editor has also been blocked 72 hours per a 3RR report. ] (]) 23:16, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Vujacicm}} issued ARBMAC warning and edit war warning for a slow-motion edit war with already-sanctioned {{user|WhiteWriter}} on ]. WhiteWriter also warned about edit warring. ] <small>(])</small> 01:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|FkpCascais}} placed on 1rv/48h limitation on all Yugoslavia-related articles, for revert-warring and tendentious conduct on ] . ] ] 08:25, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
* {{User|Alinor}} placed , in connection with request for enforcement. ]<small> <nowiki>]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 15:00, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
* {{User|Slovenski Volk}} was given a 0RR sanction by HJ Mitchell and was blocked 72h on Jan 30, 2011. For breaking that sanction and using an IP to continue their edits, I've Volk for 1 week. — ] <sup>]</sup> 19:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
* {{user|Macedoniarulez}} warned for POV pushing at various Macedonia-related articles: <span style="font-family: Georgia">– ] <sup>] • ]</sup></span> 07:25, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
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*{{user|Proud Serbian Chetnik}} warned for POV-pushing on articles related to Serbia . ] (]) 13:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Zeibeks}} warned, edit warring on ] ] <small>(])</small> 16:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
*<s>((User|Cplakidas}} warned, edit warring on ]</s> ] <small>(])</small> 16:57, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Krivi94}} after disruption and edit warring on ]. ] <small>(])</small> 22:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Emands}} warned, edit warring on ]. ] (]) 16:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Kebeta}} warned, edit warring on ]. ] (]) 16:39, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|SamiraJ}} warned, edit warring on ], per . ] (]) 23:49, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Wisco2000}} warned, edit warring on ] and at ], per . ] (]) 05:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Reanimated X}} notified of ARBMAC (procedural warning; no history of disruption) ]<sup>]</sup> 10:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Lunch for Two}} notified of ARBMAC and strongly warned about edit warring on ] and elsewhere. ]<sup>]</sup> 10:23, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Fry1989}} , cross-wiki edit warring regarding ] usage. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 20:42, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Majuru}} - removal of material against consensus on ]. ] <small>(])</small> 19:14, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
*{{user|Reaper7}} , for suggesting that was tainted by the ethnicity of the editors involved. Warning confirmed by me. ] (]) 23:30, 28 December 2011 (UTC)


===2012 notifications===
===December 2007 - February 2008 ===
*{{User|MarcRey}} after report to ANI regarding behavior at ]. ] <sup>]</sup> 07:55, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
*{{User|Ganderoleg}} warned for a series of highly inflammatory personal attack postings on matters of Yugoslavian history . ] ] 21:27, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
*{{User|71.178.106.120}} for ] on ]. --] (]) 17:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
*Editors of ] warned of ARBMAC discretionary sanctions related to article, notice placed on talk page. --] (]) 17:07, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
*] was {{diff|User talk:203.213.94.73|475795150|475777363|warned}} after {{diff|Talk:Srebrenica massacre|prev|475776963|inflammatory}} {{diff|Talk:Srebrenica massacre|prev|475778318|comments}} at ] and other articles in this topic area. -- ''']'''] 18:04, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
*] was after ] comments on . --] (]) 08:10, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Bakersdozen77}} warned due to heated comments at ] and excessive reverting of ] as reported at ]. ] (]) 03:48, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Bracodbk}} warned after being blocked for edit warring on ]. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> ''']'''</span> ] 14:51, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Irvi Hyka}} warned while blocked for edit warring at ]. ] (]) 03:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Artem Karimov}} warned while blocked for edit warring at ]. ] (]) 03:01, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|109.228.84.16}} (uw-balkans2) for edit-warring on ]. ''']]''' 21:57, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|109.242.108.54}} was for edit-warring on the name of Macedonia, contrary to ]. ] (]) 14:21, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|213.154.20.199}} warned - personal attack lots of edit filter log hits. ] <small>(])</small> 20:34, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Theirrulez}} warned for highly partisan edits at ] while reverting cleanup efforts by a regular editor. Also reminded that he is under a 1RR/week restriction on all Balkan-related articles. ] (]) 04:36, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Dim.vas.nikol}} was about the naming convention policy, after attempts to disrupt and start alter the reference of Macedonia to FYROM across several articles, including ], ], and ]. ]]] 14:58, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|195.47.198.7}} was after repeatedly replacing text at ], mentioning beheadings during the Srebrenica massacre, with a general overview of the Srebrenica massacre and an explanation of how this incident was a war crime (but without retaining any mention of beheadings or any of the associated sources). — ]] 22:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Ottomanist}} was after second revert in a day on 1RR per week subject ]. --<span style="text-shadow:grey 0.2em 0.2em 0.1em; class=texhtml">]<sup>]</sup></span> 19:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|46.12.192.244}} was about the naming convention policy, after altering details on ]. ]]] 19:48, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|46.12.92.124}} issued for breaching 1RR rule on ] - IP address is similar to the one directly above this, and is probably the same user. ]]] 10:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|ZjarriRrethues}} Move-warred on the article ] to ]. User cautioned. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 21:04, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Irvi Hyka}} Formal restrictions implemented (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">'''&nbsp;]&nbsp;'''</span>]) 09:27, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|23 editor}} and {{user|Navyworth}} both warned after a rather nasty bout of edit-warring at ]. (Navyworth also blocked 24hrs for edit-warring.) ] ] 11:43, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Angbent}} warned by myself. ] (]) 14:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Evlekis}} warned per an ANI complaint that he had violated 1RR at ]. ] (]) 15:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
*{{User|SkytteholmarN}} warned , after an ANI thread regarding a personal attack he made. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> ''']'''</span> ] 11:07, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
*{{User|141.237.185.88}} warned , following mass changing of "Republic of Macedonia" at ]. - ] <sub>]</sub> 02:58, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
*{{User|Snake bgd}} for edit warring on ]. ] <small>(])</small> 22:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|CrnoBelo}} for edit warring about placement of images of churches in Serbian village articles such as ], per a complaint at ]. ] (]) 01:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Sokac121}} for his part in the war over church images in ], mentioned in the above entry. This editor was previously notified of the discretionary sanctions under ]. ] (]) 01:15, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Espor}} after battleground behaviour concerning ]. ] ] 14:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|92.63.27.251}} for persistent removal of the Croatian name at ]. ] (]) 13:52, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Proudbulgarian}} warned after a 3RR block for warring about ]. ] (]) 14:43, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
*{{user| WavesSaid}} while edit warring on several ARBMAC-related articles. ] <small>(])</small> 17:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Hannover95}} had previously been over removing other editors' comments from ] and contentious editing of the article . I have now him for 48 hours for persistent removal of talk page comments, and issued a formal warning about discretionary sanctions. ] (]) 18:21, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Ivantg}} . ] <small>(])</small> 23:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|E4024}} warned of both the ] and ] decisions due to concerns about nationalist motivations for some of his edits regarding Turkey and its neighbors. For more details, see the text of the notice. ] (]) 16:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|Medvegja}} after breach of 3RR on ].--] (]) 21:45, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{user |TheMistAnchorite1}} ] about ARBMAC and blocked (non-arbmac block) after edit warring on ]. ] <small>(])</small> 00:55, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{user|IllusionFinal}} warned due to his revert warring at ] about percentage of adherents to different religions in that country. ] (]) 03:24, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
*{{IP|87.59.200.85}} warned about ARBMAC after a at ] regarding the origin of the word "Balkans". — ]] <small>''(no relation to Jimbo)''</small> 03:40, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


===2013 notifications===
*Arising from some 3RR and edit warring issues, I have placed the following users on notice of this decision and the discretionary sanctions.
*{{user|Funationalists}} following edit-warring and personal attacks on ]. ] (]) 03:35, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
**]
**] *{{user|Noarmsnolegsnolife}} notified after three reverts at ]. ] (]) 02:10, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
**] *{{user|Clarification12}} following an edit war on ]. ] <small>(])</small> 13:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
**] *{{user|Ceco31}} following an edit war on several articles related to Bulgaria. ''']''' ~ (]) 02:40, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|58.173.108.6}} per <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 13:17, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
**]
*{{user|Wikiisunbiased}} over and personal insults at ]. ] (]) 13:31, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
*The first three users are not accused of anything but their edits within the area of conflict require them, in my opinion, to be on notice of the decision. The final two users broke the 3RR and I have blocked them both for that as well as giving notice of this decision. I will be checking back to ensure that things continue to go smoothly or if not to proceed to impose the relevant sanctions. ] (]) 12:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{user|23 editor}} and {{user|Bobrayner}} warned (, ) regarding a brewing content dispute at ]. Also posted a at ]. —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 03:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
*I emphasize that these are protective notices only. ] (]) 09:13, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{ipuser|99.241.55.118}} after from a list of territories at ]. —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 04:25, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
:*I have created a user warning template, {{tl|uw-balkans}}, patterned on Stifle's warning above. ] (]) 12:05, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{ipuser|23.25.22.249}} after changing "Macedonia" to "F.Y.R.O.M." at ]. —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 00:29, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
]
*{{user|Keithstanton}} for various problematic conduct related to Serbia and Kosovo. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 21:52, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
::*I've removed this template off the main ] page until we can have some discussion on this warning first before it goes live. As it says above ''....editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process.'' the first line of this warning is ''...administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the Balkans.'' which does not look anything like the sanction statement. We do not impose sanction on ''any'' user also we already have to the warnings in pleace to deal with the three pertinant points in the sacntions and the uw-balkans warning is, in my opinion , over dramatic and reactionary, hence I would prefer to see a greater discussion. Also does this mean we are going to have a uw-kashmir, uw-northernireland, uw-armenia, uw-cyprus etc? Cheers <sup>]]</sup> 13:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{user|A Gounaris}} after the phrase ''"] - not to be confused with ]"'' after a mention of Macedonia at ]. —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 16:10, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
::**I think having that on the ] page is probably a bad idea bearing ] in mind. As to Khukri's point, are there ArbCom discretionary sanctions rulings in place on all those other matters? ] (]) 16:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{ipuser|24.57.110.189}} warned by {{u|Joy}} for persistant adding of unsourced contended text, especially names of Serbs, and for completely failing to communicate. ] (]) 15:53, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
*24 hour block of {{userlinks|Amorphisgr}} on 6 December 2007 for extensive and repeated vandalism of {{article|Flag of the Republic of Macedonia}}, {{article|Socialist Republic of Macedonia}} and {{article|Vardar Macedonia}}. -- ] (]) 05:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{user|Zetatrans}} for . <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">]</span></small> 07:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
*] has been put on notice of the discretionary sanctions, again without accusation of wrongdoing . ] (]) 16:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
*{{user|Ireland101}}, a party to this case, placed on revert parole due to recent extensive edit-warring across multiple pages: see . ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC) *{{user|Bobrayner}} for misstatement of a source and for edit warring; {{user|FkpCascais}} advised. ] (]) 09:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|212.178.236.59}} after I blocked the IP for edit warring at ] as reported at ]. The block was not an ArbCom block as there was no notice of discretionary sanctions on the talk page, nor any warning given to the IP about discretionary sanctions. I have updated the article talk page to include a discretionary sanctions notice.--] (]) 18:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Taulant23}} notified of discretionary sanctions following recent disruption. ] <sup> ]</sup> 21:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|129.12.131.100}} for changing ] to refer to the Republic of Macedonia as "Skopje". —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 02:54, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Taulant23}} placed on civility parole and banned from image uploads . ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Chronisgr}} for changing ] to refer to Macedonia as "FYR Macedonia". ]♦] 16:40, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Taulant23}} blocked for 72 hours for violation of civility parole. ] <sup> ]</sup> 13:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Megistias}} placed on supervised editing due to recent conflicts with Taulant23: see . ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:04, 21 January 2008 (UTC) * {{user|Thenazgullord}} by Future Perfect at Sunrise for edit-warring at ]. ] (]) 16:37, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|GiorgosY}} notified . ] (]) 14:23, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Albanau}} banned from editing ] for a year. He may still edit the talk page. Was warned on his IP's talk page by Future Perfect, and has a history of disruptive editing on this article dating back to 2005. ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:46, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Obozedalteima}} notified by {{user|PBS}} after edit-warring at ]. —&nbsp;]] <small>''(no&nbsp;relation to Jimbo)''</small> 06:17, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Taulant23}} blocked for a week by {{admin|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} for violation of ban from image uploads. ] <sup> ]</sup> 14:52, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user-c|Kiril Simeonovski}} warned by {{user-c|Future Perfect at Sunrise}} for edit warring at ]. &mdash;] (]) 12:34, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Albanau}} blocked for 48 hours for violation of ban from ]. Ban is therefore extended to cover ], ], and all pages and their talk pages that, reasonably speaking, relate to ]. ] <sup> ]</sup> 16:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user-c|Shokatz}} warned after edit warring at ]. &mdash;] (]) 05:54, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
*{{user|Jingiby}}, a party to this case, blocked for a month due to edit-warring on ] and banned from all articles relating to Macedonia for 3 months. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Cognoscerapo}} following a boomerang-style ANI thread. ] (]) 20:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
**Block extended to another three months for renewed block-evading IP socking ({{ipuser|82.146.18.169}}, cf. related checkuser case). ] ] 09:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Revizionist}} blocked for 48 hours due to edit-warring on ] and notified of discretionary sanctions. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|BalkanFever}} placed on supervised editing for two months due to today's big edit-war on ]: see . Note: I came back to this later to add the time-expiry: user did seem to be genuinely trying to help but fanned the flames by accident. ] <sup> ]</sup> 17:51, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|Kékrōps}} placed on revert parole for 2 months due to disruptive edit-warring on ]: see for details. ] <sup> ]</sup> 18:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|HanzoHattori}} blocked 12 days for repeated incivility and disruption by East718. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|HanzoHattori}} blocked 2 weeks by me for more disruption and incivility, . <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:35, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|HanzoHattori}} blocked indef by Keilana see talk page and ANI thread. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 04:44, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Jingiby}} banned from all articles relating to the Balkans for six months due to evasion of earlier block and topic-ban: see ]. ] <sup> ]</sup> 15:00, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|HanzoHattori}} banned from Misplaced Pages, see ]. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 13:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|Kékrōps}} blocked for 48 hours for violation of revert parole on ]: and . User has also been engaging in slow edit-warring recently over the templates in dispute. ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
* {{user|Janos Kurko}} blocked for 1 week for repeated sterile revert-warring across several articles. ] ] 06:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Megistias}} placed on 1RR for 2 months. {{user|MacedonianBoy}} notified of discretionary sanctions. ] <sup> ]</sup> 18:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Arditbido}} placed on 1RR for 2 months, after edit-warring as an IP and named user on ]. ] (]) 21:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Megistias}} and {{user|Mavronjoti}} blocked for 12h by ] for edit-warring on ]. 15 February 2008. Mavronjoti afterwards warned about possibility of further discretionary sanctions by me. ] ] 15:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Raso mk}} placed on civility parole after lifting of previous indef-block for vulgar ethnic insults, ] ] 16:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
*Revert parole for {{user|Kékrōps}} altered and extended: see . ] <sup> ]</sup> 11:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Косовска Митровица}} blocked for 24h for disruption of ] by repeatedly posting political rants unrelated to the needs of editing. -- ] (]) 11:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Vitaltrust}} blocked for 24h for page blanking vandalism. -- ] (]) 16:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Bože pravde}} banned from ] and closely related articles for one week. ] <sup> ]</sup> 19:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Ivanljig}} banned from ] and closely related articles for one week. ] <sup> ]</sup> 22:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|KosMetfan}} blocked for 24h for blanking vandalism on multiple Kosovo-related articles. -- ] (]) 20:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Taulant23}} blocked for 96 hours for violation of civility supervision: see . ] <sup> ]</sup> 09:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Dodona}}, aka {{user|PIRRO BURRI}}, blocked for 3 months for continued disruptive editing. ] <sup> ]</sup> 10:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Hereward77}} blocked for 24 hours for edit warring on ]. Article also protected while dispute is worked out (endemic POV-pushing on both sides). -- ] (]) 00:00, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Megistias}} blocked for 24 hours for edit-warring by {{admin|Rjd0060}}. Revert parole for Megistias altered and extended by self: see for details. ] <sup> ]</sup> 12:33, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Getoar}} blocked 96 hours for ] and ] per discussion on ANI . ] <sup>]</sup> 15:21, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|87.198.21.73}} blocked 48 hours for repeatedly edit warring and blanking large sections of ] despite earlier warnings. Article also semi-protected as user has utilised multiple IP addresses. -- ] (]) 01:49, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
*{{user|Dobermannp}} topic-banned from Kosovo-related articles (including all issues of Albanian/Serbian geographical names) for a month, after aggressive edit-warring on ] and similar articles. ] ] 11:27, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
**Blocked 4 days for immediate breach of topic ban. ] ] 11:48, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
**Block reset and extended to 1 week for sockpuppeting during the above block; then re-blocked for 2 months for immediate resumption of the same edit-warring after the 1 week ran out. ] ] 09:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


=== March 2008 - May 2008 === ===2014 notifications===
*{{ip|46.65.39.85}} after possible linguistic hijacking operation of ]. ] (]) 04:20, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
*{{IP|85.72.37.46}} after edit warring on ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 14:25, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Vetemekenshkodran}} after a complaint at AN3 about edit warring on football articles about players' nationality. ] (]) 20:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Логаритам}} following a nationalist dispute and . ] (]) 16:18, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Ivan VA}} for renaming Ferizaj, amid concerns about a dispute from other wikis spilling onto en.wiki. ] (]) 04:14, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|IJA}} after edit warring on ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 11:54, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Malbin210}} by ] after editing warring at ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Astarti34}} by ] after editing warring at ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{IP|77.49.58.129}} by ] after editing warring at ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{IP|54.193.96.247}} by ] after editing warring at ]. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:38, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{user|Здраво свијете!}} after edit warring on multiple articles. <b>]</b> (] • ] • ]) 12:47, 14 February 2014 (UTC). <small> the next day as a sockpuppet of ].</small>
*{{user|AlbertBikaj}}, warned for edit-warring, tendentious editing and copyright violation/plagiarism on ]. . ] ] 20:08, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
*{{User|Aleksa Lukic}} , after canvassing for another of ]. ] (]) 23:44, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
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Case Opened on 00:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Case Closed on 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Case Amended by motion on 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Case amended by motion on 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Involved parties

Statement by Fut.Perf.

The next big nationalism case after Azerbaijan-Armenia, Eastern Europe etc. There are three main disputes between four neighbouring nations here:

The players in this edit war are a relatively small number of established ringleaders, plus a large and volatile group of short-lived accounts. The balances of edit-warring firepower are such that the four nations involved have established a local pecking order of POV-pushing: Greek tendentious editing can generally get away with murder; Bulgarian tendentious editing will have its way as long as it's not against the Greeks; Albanian editors get their way because Greeks and Bulgarians come to their aid just to annoy the Macedonians; and most Macedonian editors are immobilized to such a degree they can hardly get an edit through without having it reverted immediately - leading to predictable outbreaks of sock attacks and other forms of retaliatory disruption from their side.

We need topic bans for a couple of ringleaders and revert paroles for at least a dozen others, plus administrative carte blanche for dealing with new disruption, à la Armenia-Azerbaijan.

Fut.Perf. 09:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by User:Kékrōps

User:Future Perfect at Sunrise's claim that "Greek tendentious editing can generally get away with murder" is baffling, given that the "fragile consensus" he mentions has been struck at the expense of the Greek position, and any dissent is immediately censored. The name Macedonia is used throughout Misplaced Pages in a way that is highly offensive to Greeks, especially Macedonians; see Macedonia naming dispute for further information. Furthermore, his portrayal of one side as the perennial victims is unhelpful in a complicated dispute of this nature. User:Kékrōps 10:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Avg

It is true that this is a very sensitive issue to all parties involved. However, being sensitive does not equal being nationalistic. The recent surge in edit warring occurs because tensions are extremely heightened outside Misplaced Pages. These weeks or even days are a turning point in the Macedonia naming dispute, since UN is drafting a final plan to be accepted by both RoM and Greece before RoM's entry to NATO. Apart from that, I'm disappointed that User:Future Perfect at Sunrise is clearly taking sides in this dispute. Perhaps he's been long enough to these topics to have lost the balance he should have as an administrator? As a Greek I feel insulted by the use of an expression such as "Greeks can get away with murder", especially without any diff supporting it. So I certainly support this is escalated, in order for ArbCom to establish some guidelines for both editors and admins. --Avg 14:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Francis Tyers

I concur with the point of view of Fut.Perf. In areas such as this, uninvolved admins need more leeway to forcefully arbitrate disputes and get rid of obvious trolls. Part of the problem comes from demographics and wealth, there are more Greeks, and more Bulgarians on the internet than Macedonians. This follows through to Misplaced Pages. There is a tendency for both Bulgarians and Greeks to "gang up" on Macedonians as Fut. Perf. describes.

Talk pages also generally get filled with nationalist rubbish and personal attacks / comments, one example of the off-topic stuff that goes on in most pages here. Fortunately Fut. Perf. had the good sense to remove this particular lot, but there is so much more.

Topic and article bans would be very welcome for the more disruptive users. Particularly those found engaging in "tag-team" reverting to avoid the 3RR.

I'd like to add that it isn't all users, many Greek, Macedonian and Bulgarian users manage to work on articles together perfectly well (see for example Macedonia (terminology) as suggested by Niko below). I'd like to add that not "practically adopting" the Greek position does not mean the same thing as "practically adopting" the ethnic Macedonian position.

Statement by Ireland101

I fully agree with the comments of Fut.Perf. The whole issue with Macedonian related articles has gone too far. As mentioned before the fact that members of the other ethnic groups gang up or "tag-team" against the edits of Macedonian users is quite apparent and troubling. This has gone so far that I have even seen ethnic Macedonian users leave Misplaced Pages because of this sort of injustice. Although some Greek users may not agree Fut.Perf is correct when stating that Greek users can get away with almost anything. The edits speak for themselves as in almost any conflict the Greek side has won. The several users that push the Bulgarian POV are quite successful mainly due to their organization. It is rare that I see edits from Macedonians that aren't reverted within 10 minutes. Besides the fact that it is proven that many of these users use socks I think some more investigation needs to be done as I suspect multiple users may be using those accounts to achive what they have. And as Fut.Perf also mentioned it is quite disappointing to see these users supporting the Albanians just to annoy the Macedonians. A solution must be found for this. Ireland101 21:26, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Li4kata

All people in Macedonia have a origin ethnic and this ethnic must be clearly showed. E.g. many Bulgarian revolutionaries are considered like ethnic Macedonian in Republic Macedonia. One of discussed people is Boris Sarafov. He is regular Bulgarian military officer, born in Region of Macedonia (present-day in Bulgaria). Some notes:

1. Boris Sarafov in your Memoirs he defined himself like ethnic Bulgarian. Boris Sarafov heve never defined like other ethnic.

2. In Republic of Macedonia defined ethnic origin according to born places. E.g. all members of Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization, born in Region of Macedonia are defined like Macedonians (ethnic) and this members born in North Bulgaria or Adrianople Thrace like Bulgarians. Art. 1 from Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization Regulation says, that in organization can member Bulgarians only. For more information see IMRO.

3. Boris Sarafov's brother Krastyo Sarofov is one of most popular and favorite Bulgarian theter actors. In Bulgaria Krastyo Sarafov National Academy for Theatre and Film Arts is the only one Theatre and Film Arts institution of higher education for all Bulgaria.

4. In Bulgarian SS. Cyril and Methodius National Library are preserved a lot of IMRO documents and personal correspondence of Boris Sarafov and all Bulgarian national heros from Macedonia, where they many times are defined themself like ethic Bulgarians. I see that for some of Bulgarians national heros there are already for several sources proved them ethnicity. What is need number sources, which put finish of this madness, to be defined some for ethic Macedonian, after he defined himself like Bulgarians! --Li4kata 10:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Jingiby

I will answer to Future with citations from two persons.

- The first one is from Krste Misirkov, the most prominent figure of the ethnic Macedonian national awakening and as he was proclamed from Macedonian Academy of Sciences and Arts - Macedonian #1 of 20th Century. The citatation is from his mostly known work "On the Macedonian Matters" from 1903, were the central issue was - the existence, or not, of a Macedonian nation distinct from the Bulgarian nation.

"...We spokе Bulgarian language and we believed with Bulgarians is our strong power...The future of Macedonia was in the spiritual union of the Bulgarians in Macedonia... The Macedonian Slavs ware called Bulgarians...The biggest part of the population ware called Bulgarians... All spoke that Macedonians are Bulgarians...".

- The second one is from the former Vice-President and Premier of Republic of Macedonia and now Bulgarian citizen Ljubčo Georgievski.In late summer of 2007 Georgievski published his book "Facing the truth" in Bulgaria. In it he reveals his attitude to Macedonian identity and Bulgarian past in the Republic of Macedonia:

"Why are we ashamed and flee from the truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionaries traditions comes exactly from Bulgarian Exarchate's part of Macedonian people. We shall not say a new truth if we mention the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Giorche Petrov, Pere Toshev - must I list and count all of them - were Bulgarian Exarchate's teachers in Macedonia."

And now we have to change their ethnicity, or what?Jingby 15:51, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Alex (202.10.89.28)

I agree with Future Perfect. The fact that there is a pecking order disgusts me and this issue needs to be resolved. I am not saying Macedonians are always the victims but on Misplaced Pages it seems to be the case.

While Greeks take offense at hearing the name Macedonian referring to the ethnic Macedonians, ethnic Macedonians take offense in not being called Macedonians. The Greeks have the identifier "Greek" and some of them use "Macedonian", the Macedonians only have "Macedonian" and that is where the problem lies. But my question is, why did Greece not have a problem with the Socialist Republic of Macedonia? They used the name Macedonia (not Currently Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia) yet Greece and Greeks did not care. And from the official codification (not invention) in 1944 of the Macedonian language up until Macedonian independence, there was no protest from the Greek side. It all happened after independence, when the Greek Government stated that Macedonia is Greek and Greeks started claiming that the use of "Macedonian" in connection with the newly independent country was offensive. After a while, what you claim and what you think can become the same. This may have happened with Skopjan and Slavomacedonian on the other side. Problem is, we can't change anything in terms of what is offensive now.

But in other parts of the world (even Melbourne, which has the most Greeks outside Athens), everybody knows what people mean when saying Macedonia. I went to a school where 1/3 of students were Greek and 1/3 were Macedonian - we learned our respective languages in the school, and no Greek (student, teacher or parent) referred to Macedonians as Slavs or Skopjans, but simply Macedonians. If you ask any Greek, regardless of geographical region, where they come from, they will say Greece, not Macedonia, not Thessaly but Greece. The ones that say Macedonia refer to the country, and even Greeks know this. I have even seen nationalist (or maybe just racist) Greeks saying "Macedonians Suck" - and that is a partial resolution (Greeks can hate Macedonians, yet call them by their name).

The Bulgarian users like to edit everything to do with Macedonians - even indisputably non-Bulgarian things like the SR Macedonia/SFR Yugoslavia place of birth thing. That is another problem.

And Future Perfect is not taking sides - many Macedonians find many articles unsatisfactory. Unfortunately, if Bulgarians and Greeks find articles unsatisfactory, they have the power in numbers to change them in the long run. Alex 202.10.89.28 07:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by strich3D

I can agree with Future Perfect. Macedonian editors are immobilized because they are in much smaller number than Bulgarian and Greek editors and have worse organisation. For example Bulgairan editors- in fact one account: ForeignerFromTheEast which is controlled by more people and is 24h ON. An answer for Jingiby, quote from foreword from Krste Misirkov's book "On Macedonian matters": " As a succesor of idea for full separation of our concerns from concerns of the other Balkan nations and for fully indpendent national and cultural evolution, I wrote this book on macedonian central dialect which from now will be Macedonian literary language". strich3D

Statement by HxSeek

I praise FuturePerf's righteous actions regarding the state opf this article. He is coorect, as it is very obvious, that there is an heirarchy of collaboration, if you will, between editors of different ethnic affiliations. It seems that our Bulgarian fellows seem to have hijacked the articles. Especially ethnic macedonians article, it is full of Bulgarian history and reads like some kind of nationalist newspaper article trying to convince masses as to how obvious it is that Macedonians are Bulgarians. One might even accuse them of sheer arrogance, placing edits such as "Macedonians are ethnopolitically disoriented Bulgarians". Now, I have always maintained respect for the regular Bulgarian editors, Jingiby, etc, etc. They are certainly knowledgeable and raise good points, but a line is crossed when the intentionally steer the article into their own agenda. Eg [http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Macedonians_%28ethnic_group%29&oldid=167334772#World_War_I}

As for the Greek position, their focus is on the anything referring to the name and history of macedonia. I have already attempted to outline fallabilities in their whole arguement in the naming dispute article. Initially, the Slav Macedonian perspective section was a mere 2 lines, versus pages of greek perspective. I elaborated. To my surprise, it was not mass reverted, albeit it was certainly watered down to suit a more Greek-acceptable position, whilst the Greek perspective remains 100% pro-Greek and un-diluted.

This issue needs to be resolved. The whole ethnicity and historical debate has many facts which can be interpreted many ways. I am keen on working cooperatively and do not deny other perspectives, but the Greek and Bulgarian editors need to allow a Slav macedonian perspective to be heard without labelling it 'nationalist' or 'pseudoscience', becuase that's just a case of the pot calling the kettle black. Yes, there are some Macedonian editors who exxagerate, etc, but i see mysel to be conservative and factual. Hxseek 22:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Statement by Dzole

Im with FutPerf on this, I explained my pov on the Incident Page but I'll repeat some points that I find very important:

the Bulgarian editors listed above (some are missing actually), beside their tendentious behaviour, insist on keeping highly questionable sources:

There are several other examples scattered throughout Misplaced Pages. By allowing the use of such sources, Misplaced Pages is ruining its own credibility. I vote that Misplaced Pages's BOTs should be programmed to automaticaly consider such links as spam and to subsequently remove them.

Regarding the behaviour of the Greek editors: a personal Greek user page on Misplaced Pages that can be considered as contentious and provokative: User:Asteraki. Quote: This user is able to contribute with an Intermediate level of Bulgarian southwestern dialect of FYROM.(end of quote) Refers to the Macedonian language as to Bulgarian language. Also the user had a sub-page which seemed to be a political pamphlet at User:Asteraki/VARDARSKA-(FYROM) (refering to Republic of Macedonia as Vardarska Banovina etc.). See this also. Despite all, the user remains active on Misplaced Pages.

I tried not to get involved in any edit-warring recently until this problem is solved, but my inactivity is abused by User: Jingiby who continues agenda pushing and adding questionable sources for example to Mala Prespa and Golo Brdo (also see the Talk page).

P.S. A notable problem is the article National Liberation War of Macedonia where the Bulgarian editors have tried to add very contentious statements which are almost near to neo-nazism, such as that the Bulgarian Axis-allied army was greeted as a liberator in Macedonia during the WWII. They supported their statement with a WWII Bulgarian source published in 1941 (МАКЕДОНИЯ 1941, "Възкресението" - С. Нанев, 1941 г.) ---- Dzole (talk) 21:05, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Preliminary decisions

Arbitrators' opinion on hearing this matter (4/0/0/0)

Final decision

Principles

Purpose of Misplaced Pages

1) Misplaced Pages is a project to create a neutral encyclopedia. Use of the site for other purposes—including, but not limited to, advocacy, propaganda, furtherance of outside conflicts, and political or ideological struggle—is prohibited.

Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).

Decorum

3) Misplaced Pages users are expected to behave reasonably and calmly in their interactions with other users, to keep their cool when editing, and to avoid acting in a manner that brings the project into disrepute. Unseemly conduct—including, but not limited to, personal attacks, incivility, assumptions of bad faith, trolling, harassment, and gaming the system—is prohibited. Users should not respond to such behavior in kind; concerns regarding the actions of other users should be brought up in the appropriate forums.

Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).

Editorial process

4) Misplaced Pages works by building consensus through the use of polite discussion. The dispute resolution process is designed to assist consensus-building when normal talk page communication has not worked. Sustained editorial conflict is not an appropriate method of resolving disputes.

Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).

Findings of fact

Area of conflict

1) The disputes presented in this case, while focusing specifically on issues related to Macedonia, are part of a broader set of conflicts prevalent over the entire range of articles concerning the Balkans; see, for example, the Dalmatia case and the Kosovo case. Many of these conflicts are grounded in matters external to Misplaced Pages, including long-standing historical, national, and ethnic disputes in the region. The area of conflict in this case shall therefore be considered to be the entire set of Balkan-related articles, broadly interpreted.

Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).

Remedies

Discretionary sanctions

Superseded

1) Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict if that editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process. The sanctions imposed may include blocks of up to one year in length; bans from editing any page or set of pages within the area of conflict; restrictions on reverts; or any other measures which the imposing administrator believes are reasonably necessary to ensure the smooth functioning of the project. Prior to any sanctions being imposed, the editor in question shall be given a warning with a link to this decision.

Passed 6-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
Superseded by an alternate sanction passed 14 to 0, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Appeal of discretionary sanctions

Superseded

2.1) Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. Administrators are cautioned not to reverse such sanctions without familiarizing themselves with the full facts of the matter and engaging in extensive discussion and consensus building at the administrators' noticeboard or another suitable on-wiki venue. The Committee will consider appropriate remedies including suspension or revocation of adminship in the event of violations.

Passed 7-0 at 02:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC).
Superseded by an alternate sanction passed 14 to 0, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Standard discretionary sanctions

Superseded

3) Topics related to the Balkans, broadly interpreted, are placed under discretionary sanctions. Any uninvolved administrator may levy restrictions as an arbitration enforcement action on users editing in this topic area, after an initial warning.

Passed 14 to 0 by motion, 14:32, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
Superseded by motion at 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Amendments

Motion: Eastern Europe and Balkans scope (February 2019)

At Amendment II in Eastern Europe, Eastern Europe is replaced as text by Eastern Europe or the Balkans. Remedy 3 in Macedonia is superseded by this amendment.

Passed 5 to 0 by motion at 23:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

Enforcement

Enforcement of restrictions

0) Should any user subject to a restriction in this case violate that restriction, that user may be blocked, initially for up to one month, and then with blocks increasing in duration to a maximum of one year.

In accordance with the procedure for the standard enforcement provision adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.

Appeals and modifications

0) Appeals and modifications

This procedure applies to appeals related to, and modifications of, actions taken by administrators to enforce the Committee's remedies. It does not apply to appeals related to the remedies directly enacted by the Committee.

Appeals by sanctioned editors

Appeals may be made only by the editor under sanction and only for a currently active sanction. Requests for modification of page restrictions may be made by any editor. The process has three possible stages (see "Important notes" below). The editor may:

  1. ask the enforcing administrator to reconsider their original decision;
  2. request review at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard ("AE") or at the administrators’ noticeboard ("AN"); and
  3. submit a request for amendment at "ARCA". If the editor is blocked, the appeal may be made by email through Special:EmailUser/Arbitration Committee (or, if email access is revoked, to arbcom-en@wikimedia.org).
Modifications by administrators

No administrator may modify or remove a sanction placed by another administrator without:

  1. the explicit prior affirmative consent of the enforcing administrator; or
  2. prior affirmative agreement for the modification at (a) AE or (b) AN or (c) ARCA (see "Important notes" below).

Administrators modifying sanctions out of process may at the discretion of the committee be desysopped.

Nothing in this section prevents an administrator from replacing an existing sanction issued by another administrator with a new sanction if fresh misconduct has taken place after the existing sanction was applied.

Administrators are free to modify sanctions placed by former administrators – that is, editors who do not have the administrator permission enabled (due to a temporary or permanent relinquishment or desysop) – without regard to the requirements of this section. If an administrator modifies a sanction placed by a former administrator, the administrator who made the modification becomes the "enforcing administrator". If a former administrator regains the tools, the provisions of this section again apply to their unmodified enforcement actions.

Important notes:

  1. For a request to succeed, either
(i) the clear and substantial consensus of (a) uninvolved administrators at AE or (b) uninvolved editors at AN or
(ii) a passing motion of arbitrators at ARCA
is required. If consensus at AE or AN is unclear, the status quo prevails.
  1. While asking the enforcing administrator and seeking reviews at AN or AE are not mandatory prior to seeking a decision from the committee, once the committee has reviewed a request, further substantive review at any forum is barred. The sole exception is editors under an active sanction who may still request an easing or removal of the sanction on the grounds that said sanction is no longer needed, but such requests may only be made once every six months, or whatever longer period the committee may specify.
  2. These provisions apply only to contentious topics placed by administrators and to blocks placed by administrators to enforce arbitration case decisions. They do not apply to sanctions directly authorised by the committee, and enacted either by arbitrators or by arbitration clerks, or to special functionary blocks of whatever nature.
  3. All actions designated as arbitration enforcement actions, including those alleged to be out of process or against existing policy, must first be appealed following arbitration enforcement procedures to establish if such enforcement is inappropriate before the action may be reversed or formally discussed at another venue.
In accordance with the procedure for the standard appeals and modifications provision adopted 3 May 2014, this provision did not require a vote.

Log of notifications

This is an incomplete list of editors who have been notified or warned of discretionary sanctions (by means of the template {{subst:alert|topic=b}} or otherwise) required for the imposition of discretionary sanctions. No new notifications should be listed here.

2010 notifications

2011 notifications

2012 notifications

2013 notifications

2014 notifications

Log of blocks and bans

All sanctions issued pursuant to a discretionary sanctions remedy must be logged at Misplaced Pages:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions/Log.