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Sicilian Baroque nominated for Featured Article Review

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Proposed deletion of And a body to remember with

The article And a body to remember with has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unsourced since 2009

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Class Editing

Hi JBmurray, I discovered another major lack of citations WP:YTCOPYRIGHT WP:RS issue with what appears to be another article being edited by your class. It’s admirable that you are taking on education on editing on Misplaced Pages, something that I believe more people should know how to do properly. Hopefully when finished with your class, the new users enjoyed the experience and continue to be active in the editor community! I removed a large section of Essay-style writing with no citations and sources despite close paraphrasing and/or quoting of books and options on Down These Mean Streets. Per WP:VER All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. And WP:COPYVIO which calls for infringing content should be removed... I have RV’d the edit until the user can provide citations and references along the Misplaced Pages guidelines. Perhaps it would be helpful as their instructor to present a lesson on WP:VER, citations, references, WP:WHYCITE and similar subjects.--Bhockey10 (talk) 02:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi User:Bhockey10 and thanks for this. We will be talking about these issues tomorrow morning. For now, let me just say that these are works in progress. We have several weeks left with this project. Your comments on talk pages are most welcome. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 07:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi JB, Thanks for your REs on the talk page. As you may have guessed, I'm an editor who highly values refs and cites and also a copyvio reverter. Those issues often hold back Misplaced Pages outside of the WP community and in academia who see it as an unreliable source. Outsiders/non-users see it a a free-for-all with no rules and regulations, when in fact the community is well structured. One of my major goals is to personally add well-referenced content as well as positively encouraging others to do the same. Hopefully your students are having a good experience and gaining valuable work to becoming well-rounded editors. I added a couple Under Construction tags to Down These Mean Streets and Gregorio Cortez If you have other pages as part of the class assignment, it might be helpful for you to add that tag to them. Hopefully that will help other editors to avoid WP:BITE and work with your student editors in an effective manner per WP:ASSIGN. Thanks again for your work and I hope they are enjoying the experience and we'll have a batch of young/eager editors who stick with the WP Community long after the project. Best Wishes! --Bhockey10 (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Great, many thanks. Yes, absolutely I want my students to learn about adding well-referenced material, using reliable sources. The other article they are working on is The House on Mango Street. I generally avoid those "under construction" templates, but I may add one there, too. :) Thanks again. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Gregorio Cortez

I added a few bullets but didn't want to overwhelm them so stopped after a few sections. Looks like some good sources and useful material; the main thing at issue is encyclopedic voice. Pier Gerlofs Donia might be a decent model for them to follow: a folk hero, not yet a GA, but the voice is right -- no drama, just the facts. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:49, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so much. Will get to this later today. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 22:33, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm happy to pick up the GA review if you want -- let me know. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

That would be cool. Frankly, myself I've been focussing on our other two articles, which need rather more work (though The House on Mango Street is pretty close; Down These Mean Streets is not). Tell me what you think! (And I promise I will get around to some reviewing myself!) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 11:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Will do. Have to work so may or may not be today; I may be taking a half-day. If not I will look tomorrow. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gregorio Cortez

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Gregorio Cortez you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 11:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Perfect, many thanks. I'm sure that @Pechodor13, Maymolina, and Chr66: will also be on the case. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 15:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

I've completed a first pass. Can I assume that you've eyeballed the source quality and reliability yourself? I've noted one or two dubious sources in the review but you'll know better than I would whether the books cited are the right sort of scholarship. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Citation style

I note that you changed the format of citation in the article on The Lady Vanishes. I also note at WP:CITEVAR it says: "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference, to make it match other articles, or without first seeking consensus for the change." - kosboot (talk) 12:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi there. Have at it. But I noticed that the combination of templates in use there wasn't working, in that clicking on the links in the footnotes wasn't directing you to the bibliography.

After a few experiments, I think that could be fixed merely by changing the "cite book" (etc.) templates to "citation." So the "harvnb" templates could be returned to the "sfn" ones. I have to admit I was unfamiliar with that template, but like its simplicity. I may use them in other articles I'm working on.

Anyhow, as I say, I'm easy. But I simply noticed that the combination in use wasn't doing what was intended. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 15:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Indeed in my early stages of editing on WP I used harv, but then I realized that SFN was created to improve upon harv and make citation work easier. I'll check to see what works & what doesn't. Thanks for your efforts. - kosboot (talk) 15:19, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gregorio Cortez

The article Gregorio Cortez you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Gregorio Cortez for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 21:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The House on Mango Street

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The House on Mango Street you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Drmies -- Drmies (talk) 21:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Excellent, many thanks! I will ensure that @Ubcstudent1234, MLTodd, and Stephjos: are alert to any revisions they need to make. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Six years!

- Happy Easter, or: the resurrection of loving-kindness --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Talk:Peter Wall (property developer)/GA1

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Misplaced Pages's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. AIRcorn (talk) 23:13, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Gregorio Cortez

The article Gregorio Cortez you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Gregorio Cortez for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 17:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The House on Mango Street

The article The House on Mango Street you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:The House on Mango Street for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Drmies -- Drmies (talk) 13:41, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

FAR for Mario Vargas Llosa

I have nominated Mario Vargas Llosa for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t · c) buidhe 06:56, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Missing ref from 12 years ago...

Hi, back in 2008 you added {{Harvnb|1993|p=35}} and {{Harvnb|1993|p=41}} to Domingo Faustino Sarmiento. Any recollection which source that might refer to? P.S. recommend installing a script (described at Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors) to highlight such errors in the future. Renata (talk) 02:45, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Greetings of the season

I Am Half-Sick of Shadows, Said the Lady of Shalott		Happy holidays
		Dear Jon, For you and all your loved ones, "Let there be mercy". Wishing you health, peace and happiness this holiday season and in the coming year. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:35, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

... for what you said on User talk:SlimVirgin - missing pictured on my talk, with music full of hope and reformation --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:59, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

I need help to correct the nationality of Antoni Gaudí

Hola colega:

Le escribo en español porque en su página de usuario dice que usted domina este idioma, así que imagino que entenderá lo que escribo. Soy un usuario que edita principalmente artículos de Misplaced Pages en inglés y Misplaced Pages en español, con la intención de mejorarlos. Pero ahora tengo un problema: hace algún tiempo noté que el artículo de Misplaced Pages en inglés del arquitecto español llamado "Antoni Gaudí" se refiere a él en el encabezamiento del artículo como "Catalan architect".

Por lo que yo sé, en los artículos de Misplaced Pages que son biografías se debe hacer referencia en el encabezamiento del artículo al país de ciudadanía del sujeto, no a su procedencia regional dentro de un país. Por eso edité el artículo y puse "Spanish architect", pero mi edición fué revertida y el usuario que la revirtió alegó en su explicación que mi edición era un vandalismo.

Entonces después recordé que en el caso de los políticos catalanes desde hace algún tiempo se ha llegado a un concenso en Misplaced Pages con respecto a eso: En el caso de los políticos catalanes en Misplaced Pages en inglés para lograr la neutralidad debe ponerse "Spanish politician from Catalonia". Edité nuevamente el artículo, está vez aplicando esa fórmula a Antoni Gaudí: "Spanish architect from Catalonia". Pero mi edición fué revertida una vez más con la justificación nuevamente de que era un vandalismo.

Por eso solicito, por favor, la ayuda de usted. Teniendo en cuenta que usted es administrador, tengo fé en que me pueda ayudar a corregir ese problema. Porque en mi humilde opinión eso representa una parcialización del contenido de Misplaced Pages por motivos ideológicos.

España fue unificada como un Estado centralizado en la década de 1710 por el rey Felipe V de Borbón, mediante una ley llamada "Decretos de Nueva Planta". A partir de ese momento, Cataluña dejó de ser un principado y se unificó con la Corona de Castilla y de esa unión surgió el reino de España, que es el estado actualmente existente al que pertenece Cataluña. Antoni Gaudí nació en el siglo XIX, y en ese entonces Cataluña ya era parte de España, así que lo más correcto sería referirse a Gaudí como "Spanish".

Quisiera aclararle a usted que no pretendo ser arrogante en lo absoluto, de hecho yo considero que soy un usuario que aún tiene mucho que aprender, así que si usted valora que estoy equivocado en mis puntos de vista, estoy dispuesto a ser receptivo y corregir mis puntos.

Si usted pudiera responderme, se lo agradeceré mucho. De antemano, muchas gracias. Aziyade Gil (talk) 20:06, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Hola. De hecho, personalmente no tengo ninguna preferencia. Para mí, Gaudí puede ser denominado español y/o catalán. Veo que hay poderosos argumentos, mayormente ideológicamente motivados, por los dos lados. Mientras tanto, hay precedentes para cualquiera de las soluciones posibles. Por ejemplo, hay muchas figuras escosesas a las cuales la wikipedia se refiere así, sin más: el arquitecto Charles Rennie Mackintosh, por ejemplo. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 05:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

¿Entonces usted considera que no se necesita aclarar el país de ciudadanía del sujeto para mejor entendimiento de los lectores?

Por ejemplo: "Spanish architect from Catalonia" o "Catalan architect from Spain"?

De antemano, gracias Aziyade Gil (talk) 02:27, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

No creo que haya mucha confusión sobre este punto en el artículo dado, Antoni Gaudí; tampoco en Charles Rennie Mackintosh. Los dos me parecen muy informativos. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 22:31, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled

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Always precious

Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – December 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).

Administrator changes

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• Fathoms Below
• Pppery
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• Worm That Turned

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Interface administrator changes

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Pppery

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Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Misplaced Pages:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
• Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

Technical news

• Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
• An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

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Administrators' newsletter – January 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

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Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

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Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Misplaced Pages:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

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