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{{Nutshell|The {{tl|Centralized discussion}} template is a widely-transcluded listing of ongoing discussions, specifically those which have potentially wide-ranging impacts and therefore require input from the community at large.}}


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===Explanation===
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These discussions were introduced to reduce the post count on VfD.
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The point of these discussions is to establish consensus about a recurring theme that is related to inclusion or deletion of certain categories of articles on Misplaced Pages. If a number of related articles are nominated for VfD, the same arguments tend to be used for all of them; in that case, it would be helpful to create a centralized place for discussion. The outcome of that discussion can then be used as a guideline in the future. It can be assumed that the Wikipedian consensus holds that they hold true in the majority of situations to which they apply.


The '''{{tl|centralized discussion}} template''' (shortcut: ]) is generally used to draw attention to discussions regarding policies, guidelines or other matters that have a wide impact and on which a broad consensus is needed. It expands to the box listing with heading "Centralized Discusssion" at the top of this page, listing such discussions.
===For your attention===
These discussions are supposed to be as public as possible. If you know of an article page or WikiProject page that would be interested in any particular discussion, please create a (two-way) link between them.


There are many alternative methods of publicizing discussions. Announcements, such as for ], etc., are generally done via the ] or the ]. Discussions related to content, including use of infoboxes and templates within a specific topic area, are usually best advertised within the appropriate WikiProjects.
===New discussions===
* Anyone can add a discussion to the list. This is done by creating a page on '''Misplaced Pages:Consensus/<<enter topic here>>''', and adding it to the ''bottom'' of the list.
**Many earlier topics have their pages listed under 'deletion policy/<<topic>>', but that naming is somewhat awkward since (to some people) it implies a policy to delete all articles on the topic, which is not the case.
* Please look at existing discussions first to get an idea of layout and how to describe the discussion.
* If you create a discussion about a group of articles, please do not list those individual articles on VfD while the discussion lasts. Instead, add a link to the bottom of your article.
* If you see a VfD nomination that relates to an existing discussion here, please link both the nomination and the discussion to one another. Do not remove the nomination.


==Background==
⚫ ===Closing discussions===
] frequently discuss proposed changes to a ]; these may take the form of new proposals, amendments to existing policies or guidelines, or ]. These discussions generally take place on relevant ]. They may also occur at ].
* Discussions will be kept for at least a week, and may be kept longer if there is no clear consensus after that time. After that, they will be moved to the ] page.
* The person closing the discussion should list conclusions drawn from it, '''and''' contact some other people taking a different opinion in the discussion to verify the conclusions.


] and ] provide central areas both for giving notice of discussions elsewhere and for debate itself. Despite regular archiving, these pages tend to grow rather lengthy. It's not always easy to know what issues are active.
===General points===
* The point is to establish a consensual guideline through discussion, not to establish a rule through voting.
* As with all discussions on Misplaced Pages, be ] about it, do not make ], and uphold ].


==Listing examples==
===Reopening old discussions===
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*It is possible for consensus to change over time. Thus, it may be useful at some point to re-open some of these discussions.
Discussions listed on Cent are about matters that are significant enough to require a broad consensus. See ] for guidance on the appropriate way to gain attention.
*If so, the relevant link should be moved back to the main policy consensus page, and discussion can continue.
*However, please only re-open a discussion if, after you've asked some other user's views on the matter, it seems to no longer reflect Wikipedian consensus - do not re-open a discussion simply if you personally disagree with the outcome.


Some discussions may also be listed on ].
⚫ ]

]
'''Appropriate'''
* Discussions on existing policies, guidelines and procedures
* Discussions on proposed policies, guidelines and procedures
* Discussions on matters that have a wide impact

'''Inappropriate'''
* Announcements – see ], ], or ]
* Content disputes – see ]
* Topic-specific discussions – see ]
* Minor matters, housekeeping, article content discussions, or maintenance – see ] or ].
* General ideas or proposals, reviving dead projects, technical issues, or any other matters that would be better suited to ]

==How to list==
* To add a new item, edit ], and place the item at the top of the list.
* Link directly to the discussion. Single, unambiguous and concise links are preferred.
* Describe the matter or proposal in neutral terms. It is not necessary to label the type of discussion, e.g. "RFC".
* Add date of listing between ]: <code><nowiki><!--</nowiki></code> <code><nowiki>--></nowiki></code>.
*At the discussion itself, add {{tlxs|Notified|2=<nowiki>WP:CENT{{subst:!}}centralized discussion</nowiki>}} or similar.

==When and how to archive<span id="When_to_archive"></span>==
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Entries for inactive discussions, closed or not, should be moved to ].

==Cautions==
Like any tool, this may be ]. Kindly exercise restraint, ], and allow process to take its course. Please don't add new policy ideas indiscriminately; trial balloons are better floated at ]. This template should be reserved for ongoing discussions. Remember, its usefulness is in inverse proportion to its size.

Before joining a debate, it might be wise to gather some background, especially on complex or long-standing issues. Please be courteous to your fellow editors and {{strong|read}} existing discussion before adding your own comment. It's hoped that {{tl|centralized discussion}} will contribute to the opening of policy debate and the broadening of ]; but of course no good purpose is served by uninformed comment. {{strong|].}}

==Documentation==
* This page is for explanation of how {{tl|centralized discussion}} is used.
* ] is for any discussion about this process.
* ] contains the actual box content of ongoing policy issues. It should be edited to stay current at all times.
* ] contains technical documentation of the template.
* ] redirects to ].
* You may create any page of the form ] if it does not appear that any particular existing talk page is the correct place for a policy-related discussion. Please note that there are a great many talk pages; a very large number of discussions are ongoing. Before creating yet another debate page, check to see that the topic is not already under discussion elsewhere. Search the project for keywords related to the topic in question.
* Links are stored at ].

==See also==
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ]
* ] ↔ ] & ]
⚫ * ]
* ] – informations on current elections, votings, polls and centralized discussions.
* ] – a show-hide box that can be added to user pages, etc.
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"WP:CD" redirects here. For other uses, see WP:CD (disambiguation). For the template itself, see Template:Centralized discussion. Misplaced Pages information page
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It is not an encyclopedic article, nor one of Misplaced Pages's policies or guidelines; rather, its purpose is to explain certain aspects of Misplaced Pages's norms, customs, technicalities, or practices. It may reflect differing levels of consensus and vetting.		Shortcuts
This page in a nutshell: The {{Centralized discussion}} template is a widely-transcluded listing of ongoing discussions, specifically those which have potentially wide-ranging impacts and therefore require input from the community at large.
Centralized discussion
Village pumps
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For a listing of ongoing discussions, see the dashboard.

The {{centralized discussion}} template (shortcut: T:CENT) is generally used to draw attention to discussions regarding policies, guidelines or other matters that have a wide impact and on which a broad consensus is needed. It expands to the box listing with heading "Centralized Discusssion" at the top of this page, listing such discussions.

There are many alternative methods of publicizing discussions. Announcements, such as for ArbCom elections, etc., are generally done via the Watchlist notice or the Sitenotice. Discussions related to content, including use of infoboxes and templates within a specific topic area, are usually best advertised within the appropriate WikiProjects.

Background

Wikipedians frequently discuss proposed changes to a Misplaced Pages policy or guideline; these may take the form of new proposals, amendments to existing policies or guidelines, or requests for comments. These discussions generally take place on relevant talk pages. They may also occur at Meta-Wiki.

Misplaced Pages:Village pump (policy) and Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals) provide central areas both for giving notice of discussions elsewhere and for debate itself. Despite regular archiving, these pages tend to grow rather lengthy. It's not always easy to know what issues are active.

Listing examples

Shortcut

Discussions listed on Cent are about matters that are significant enough to require a broad consensus. See Misplaced Pages:Canvassing for guidance on the appropriate way to gain attention.

Some discussions may also be listed on Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment.

Appropriate

  • Discussions on existing policies, guidelines and procedures
  • Discussions on proposed policies, guidelines and procedures
  • Discussions on matters that have a wide impact

Inappropriate

How to list

  • To add a new item, edit Template:Centralized discussion, and place the item at the top of the list.
  • Link directly to the discussion. Single, unambiguous and concise links are preferred.
  • Describe the matter or proposal in neutral terms. It is not necessary to label the type of discussion, e.g. "RFC".
  • Add date of listing between hide brackets: <!-- -->.
  • At the discussion itself, add {{subst:Notified|WP:CENT{{subst:!}}centralized discussion}} or similar.

When and how to archive

Entries for inactive discussions, closed or not, should be moved to Misplaced Pages:Centralized discussion/Archive.

Cautions

Like any tool, this may be misused. Kindly exercise restraint, assume good faith, and allow process to take its course. Please don't add new policy ideas indiscriminately; trial balloons are better floated at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals). This template should be reserved for ongoing discussions. Remember, its usefulness is in inverse proportion to its size.

Before joining a debate, it might be wise to gather some background, especially on complex or long-standing issues. Please be courteous to your fellow editors and read existing discussion before adding your own comment. It's hoped that {{centralized discussion}} will contribute to the opening of policy debate and the broadening of consensus; but of course no good purpose is served by uninformed comment. Stay cool.

Documentation

See also

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