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Please do not post newsletters to this page; news from WikiProjects is always appreciated, but templated messages are much more likely to be ignored. ] (]) 05:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | Please do not post newsletters to this page; news from WikiProjects is always appreciated, but templated messages are much more likely to be ignored. ] (]) 05:43, 3 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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| url =http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/wikipediavision-watch-realtime.html | | url =http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/10/wikipediavision-watch-realtime.html | ||
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] 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ] 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). < |
:Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). ]] 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so! == | == Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so! == | ||
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==Pro-Israel POV group== | ==Pro-Israel POV group== | ||
With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. ] (]) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. ] (]) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the ] article about it. ] (]) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Although El Reg normally isn't a source ''Signpost'' would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. ] (]) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. ] ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as ]. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
This didn't get covered in the latest edition of ''The Misplaced Pages Signpost'', but FWIW here was the info covered in '']'' from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - ]. ] (]) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Ah, I see {{user|Ragesoss}} mentioned this below. ] (]) 17:23, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Mention in ]'s latest novel == | == Mention in ]'s latest novel == | ||
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We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). ] (]) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). ] (]) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
:What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? ''''']]''''' <small>]</small> 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | :What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? ''''']]''''' <small>]</small> 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
==Major WMF announcement: board restructuring== | |||
See http://wikimediafoundation.org/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announcement ] (]) 19:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:They seem to have some dates mixed up. Some places say Jimmy's term will expire in Dec 08 others say 09. Unfortunately there is no email address or discussion page I can edit, so I can't tell them. Very un-wiki like. Also they don't say if Jimmy's seat is re-electable or not. -] (]) | |||
::Jimmy seat expires at the end of this year, as per the email and the Board page. The page on http://wikimediafoundation.org/Board_of_Trustees/Restructure_Announcement is incorrect. I'll ping a message onto foundation-l mentioning it. ] (]) 00:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: We'll cover this. ] (]) 07:20, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
On Meta there's ] objecting to the board's failure to discuss the restructuring in advance and requesting an explanation for the change. <font face="Verdana">]</font><sup>'']''</sup> 02:58, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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|work=Marine Corps Times}} | |work=Marine Corps Times}} | ||
— ] (]) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | — ] (]) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC) | ||
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== Item for ''In the News'' == | ||
; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--] (]) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages == | |||
See , ], 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. ] (]) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) <small>Mentioned by IP editor.</small> | |||
== NYB == | |||
Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. ] (]) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate== | |||
The ''Trail Head'' campaign blog on Slate covered the , the vandalism and responses that occurred in ] after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--] (]) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
==EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed== | |||
As covered in , and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that ] protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--] (]) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. ] (]) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. ] (]) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? ]] 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. ] (]) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- ''']'''. ] (]) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at ]. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--] (]) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I see that {{user|Ral315}} deleted both ] and ] citing a ] request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. ] (]) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--] (]) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
===Sources=== | |||
Here are some sources that could be used. ] (]) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://publications.mediapost.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Articles.showArticleHomePage&art_aid=81881|title=Misplaced Pages Asks Court For Immunity From Liability For User Posts|work=MediaPost Publications|publisher=MediaPost Communications|accessdate=2008-05-05|date=2008-05-05|last=Davis|first=Wendy}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.eff.org/press/archives/2008/05/02|title=EFF and Sheppard Mullin Defend Misplaced Pages in Defamation Case: Federal Law Protects Popular User-Created Encyclopedia From Liability|work=]|publisher=www.eff.org|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080502-dumb-idea-suing-wikipedia-for-calling-you-dumb.html|title=Dumb idea: suing Misplaced Pages for calling you "dumb"|work=Ars Technica - The Art of Technology: From the News Desk|publisher=Ars Technica, LLC|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Anderson|first=Nate}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.informationweek.com/news/management/legal/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207500346|title=Misplaced Pages Battles Literary Agent Over Negative Comments: While many sites add user-generated content to enhance user experience, Misplaced Pages relies almost entirely on posts from contributors|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Jones|first=K.C.}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.p2pnet.net/story/15806|title=Misplaced Pages v literary agent Barbara Bauer|work=p2pnet news|publisher=www.p2pnet.net|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/bauer-v-wikimedia|title=Bauer v. Wikimedia|work=Citizen Media Law Project|publisher=www.citmedialaw.org, Project hosted by ]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-02|last=Bayard|first=Sam}} | |||
==] May Newsletter== | |||
The May Newsletter for ] has now been published. ] (]) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Good articles/Newsletter/May 2008}} | |||
==New magic word: PAGESIZE== | |||
A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. <code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:page name}}</nowiki></code> returns the size of the given page name (], r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example: | |||
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}</nowiki></code>" = "4,769" (default); | |||
* "<code><nowiki>{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}</nowiki></code>" = "4769" (with raw flag). | |||
—<small>{]} ] 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)</small> | |||
==National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage== | |||
<small>I thought this was worth reposting - it appeared at ]. -- <font style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:15px;">] </font> ] 22:26, 27 April 2008 (UTC) </small> | |||
The '']'' is running an by Lawrence Solomon (], author of a book and about global warming deniers) attacking ] for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy". | |||
As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the ''Post'' has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "", , and .--] (]) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
The 2008 Board election committee announces the 2008 election process. Wikimedians will have the opportunity to elect one candidate from the Wikimedia community to serve as a representative on the Board of Trustees. The successful candidate will serve a one-year term, ending in July 2009. | |||
==CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news== | |||
Candidates may nominate themselves for election between May 8 and May 22, and the voting will occur between 1 June and 21 June. For more information on the voting and candidate requirements, see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/Board_elections/2008>. | |||
Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above: | |||
The ] (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted ]) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. ''The Boston Globe'' (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, , on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian ] to expose and discredit the campaign. | |||
The voting system to be used in this election has not yet been confirmed, however voting will be by secret ballot, and confidentiality will be strictly maintained. | |||
CAMERA also published an article today, , publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the ''Boston Globe'' piece). | |||
Votes will again be cast and counted on a server owned by an independent, neutral third party, Software in the Public Interest (SPI). SPI will hold cryptographic keys and be responsible for tallying the votes and providing final vote counts to the Election Committee. SPI provided excellent help during the 2007 elections. | |||
Note that this intersects with the recent ''Wikinews'' ] (also covered by ''The Register'' and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--] (]) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
Further information can be found at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/Board_elections/2008/en>. Questions may be directed to the Election Committee at <http://meta.wikimedia.org/Talk:Board_elections/2008/en>. If you are interested in translating official election pages into your own language, please see <http://meta.wikimedia.org/Board_elections/2008/Translation>. | |||
For the election committee,<br /> | |||
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I'm curious - where are the emails published? ] (]) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== RecentChangesCamp 2008 -- May 9-11, Palo Alto, California == | |||
:... ] (]) 17:52, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
===Sources=== | |||
] is a working meeting for all wiki-involved people from around the world. Three previous events have been held in ] and ], and this year's will be in ] in the ]. Everyone involved in ] -- especially ] and other ]ns -- are invited to participate. The two-day working event is free-of-charge for all comers. The volunteer organizers sincerely request an RSVP by participants at http://rcc2008.blueoxen.net/attendees . RCC is the family reunion for the , and we don't want anyone to miss out just because they never heard of it. --] (]) 14:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. ] (]) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1485|title=CAMERA: How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages|work=CAMERA - Media Analyses|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-05-03|last=Ini|first=Gilead}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/articles/2008/05/03/war_of_the_virtual_wiki_worlds/|title=War of the virtual Wiki-worlds|work=]|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2005-05-03|last=Beam|first=Alex}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/685052/Department_of_Justice_Temp_Banned_from_Wikipedia.html|title=Department of Justice Temp Banned from Misplaced Pages|work=G4 - The Feed - The Only News You Need to Know|publisher=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-30|last=Leahy|first=Brian}} | |||
*{{cite web | |||
|url=http://en.wikinews.org/US_Dept._of_Justice_IP_address_blocked_after_%27vandalism%27_edits_to_Wikipedia|title=US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages|work=]|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-29}} | |||
*{{cite web|url=http://www.israelenews.com/view.asp?ID=1840|title=If You Don`t Want to Be Labelled a Cabal, Don`t Act Like One|work=Israel News |publisher=www.israelenews.com|accessdate=2008-05-04|date=2008-04-24|last=Weiss|first=Philip}} | |||
== Featured list director == | |||
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I have no idea what happened here, but it should be discussed in detail just as ]'s case ]. Remember: the public has the right to know (why one of the top editors retired and the details of the wikipolitics behind this event).--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]|]</span></sub> 22:28, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I raised this earlier and got one response. Then Ral removed it with a response in the edit summary. See : ''"This issue has been duly noted, and I'm happy to discuss this via e-mail with anyone interested in this conflict."''. Ral, if you remove this section with the same rationale, you might want to leave a more visible note behind to forestall other people doing what Piotrus and I did (ie. ask the same question of whether this will be reported). Otherwise it will look bad. I suggest just a bald reporting of the departure and a full or partial quote of what Newyorkbrad said. The alternative is that those who were not following what was happening will start to second-guess things, and the rumour mill will start. Better to state something in the Signpost to quell misguided rumours, rather than stay silent. ] (]) 23:19, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::NYB said on his page that he didn't want people saying why he left in there goodbyes. An article in the signpost would only make people wonder why. It is clear he doesn't want people to know why, so an article would only raise questions he asked not to be answerd on wiki. ] (]) <sup>How's my editing? ]</sup> 23:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See ] for background/ongoing discussion, and ] for the current vote. As FA director, ] has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are ] and ]. ] (]) <small>(])</small> 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Suffice to say, this has nothing to do with any controversy about his editing or credentials. It's not a public issue.--] (]) 23:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. ] (]) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -] (]) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::: Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. ] (]) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::: So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? ] (]) <small>(])</small> 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::: I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. ] (]) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC) |
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- Note that this page dates back to 2005. Wowza! jp×g 10:21, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
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I intend this to be a sort of calendar of upcoming events, on and off Misplaced Pages (particularly non-obvious events, that might be easily missed) -- things that readers might be interested in. Anyone can add events here.
- Nothing interesting is happening.
Requests for WikiProject features
If you'd like your WikiProject featured in an upcoming WikiProject report, feel free to list it here. Note that these requests are entirely advisory, and may or may not be used in future reports. Please do not "support" or "oppose" individual requests, and keep requests short and concise. Ral315 (talk) 05:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- WP:DINO, with over 90 members, the Dinosaur WikiProject is really dedicated to dinosaur coverage. See achievements for more information. Bibliomaniac15 21:51, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- WikiProject Oregon is a lively and productive project that currently supports over 5000 articles, and has a dedicated core group of editors who work toward getting articles to GA and FA. Currently we are working on a response to the Oregon Historical Society's announcement that they are starting a collaborative encyclopedia project that will somehow be better than Misplaced Pages. Katr67 (talk) 02:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- WikiProject Saints, the only project which to my knowledge has gotten a barnstar from an outsider as a project. And, of course, considering it just declared indpendence, Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Kosovo might be the most timely. John Carter (talk) 19:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Textile Arts nearly died and came back to life. Originally begun in early 2007, by the start of December it had dwindled to just two active members. For a view of how much it's revived, here's its March newsletter (featured pictures, good articles, DYKs, and a featured portal drive). Durova 09:19, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Categories/uncategorized might be a nice success-story to include in some edition of the Signpost. Various gnomes have hacked away at this backlog ever since bots like Alaibot started populating it a year and a half ago. Of course, this is a never-ending task but it's an important one and the backlog typically hovers around 2000 articles (compared to 10 times that a year ago). Pichpich (talk) 13:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
- WikiProject Long Island. Theres tons of things that happened in WP:LINY that would be great for the signpost. Nothing444 13:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits
- Forrest, Brady (April 10, 2008). "WikiPediaVision: Watch Realtime Misplaced Pages Edits". O'Reilly Radar. Retrieved 2008-04-10.
- This looks neat. Cirt (talk) 21:28, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
http://www.lkozma.net/wpv/index.html That's the actual site, it's really interesting. Cirt (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- It's so cool. But how come 9 out of 10 anonymous edits are from U.S.? OhanaUnited 21:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
- Surely it would depend upon the time of day. The US would of course dominate during the hours when the Western hemisphere is most active. Also, the tool only tracks anonymous edits, and doesn't include IPs that can't be tied down to a single country, which may introduce unintentional biases. Still, I find this incredibly cool, and actually kind of inspiring.--Pharos (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
wikipedia and Suicide
The BMJ put wikipedia as the forth most common result of suicide releated terms and catigoriesed wikipedia as "Information site: factual"
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/336/7648/800
Geni 15:15, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note that it's not claiming any of the suicide-related articles on Misplaced Pages are factually correct, only that Misplaced Pages falls within a class of sites deemed to present fact-based information about the topic (instead of, say, promoting suicide, or offering news reports about people who committed suicide). Mindmatrix 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Is Misplaced Pages a reliable source for sources? Seems so!
From this study seems we are getting better at citing our sources. Gnangarra 01:07, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
The Internet-based encyclopædia Misplaced Pages has grown to become one of the most visited Web sites on the Internet, but critics have questioned the quality of entries. An empirical study of Misplaced Pages found errors in a 2005 sample of science entries. Biased coverage and lack of sources are among the “Misplaced Pages risks.” This paper describes a simple assessment of these aspects by examining the outbound links from Misplaced Pages articles to articles in scientific journals with a comparison against journal statistics from Journal Citation Reports such as impact factors. The results show an increasing use of structured citation markup and good agreement with citation patterns seen in the scientific literature though with a slight tendency to cite articles in high-impact journals such as Nature and Science. These results increase confidence in Misplaced Pages as a reliable information resource for science in general. Many citations also go to Australian botany journals, seemingly because of the Banksia Wikiproject that has made well-referenced articles for this genus of plants with the beautiful flowers. A number of the articles for these plants has become so-called “featured” on Misplaced Pages: Coast Banksia, (this Banksia is listed as endangered), Heath-leaved Banksia and Banksia epica.
Newspaper picks up on local vandalism
A local paper finds that some IPs have been randomly vandalizing the article on their town (see diff). Paper apparently knows nothing about Misplaced Pages, saying "Efforts to reach Misplaced Pages officials for comment Tuesday were unsuccessful." Joshdboz (talk) 16:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- True, though I think it also stems from a complete ignorance of what actually goes on here, so when they see something funny happening to an article relevant to them, it seems a lot more important than it really is. Joshdboz (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Just a personal note: did someone really take the time to write a whole article on this? Must be a slow news week. And note that a municipal department had to be "alerted" about it! --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
And another on a series of vandalism to Denshaw. Joshdboz (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
BBC TV too, item here. Mr Stephen (talk) 22:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The Daily Telegraph has also picked it up, here. Mr Stephen (talk) 13:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
And now Sky News--Anthony Nolan O'Nymous (talk) 15:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
UPI Joshdboz (talk) 21:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages, climate change, National Post and User:Tabletop
Well, well. National Post has some editorial about Misplaced Pages on climate change, and the writer does not seem to be pleased with User:Tabletop. SYSS Mouse (talk) 01:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Britannica WebShare
"Encyclopedia Britannica Now Free For Bloggers", by Michael Arrington, discusses Britannica's new widget trial program, Britannica WebShare, in which web publishers of various sorts are given free access to the full version of Britannica online, and the ability to link to individual articles for their readers to access. Most news coverage is describing this as an attempt to cope with what Misplaced Pages has done to their business model.
I suggest that the Signpost attempt to sign up as a web publisher, so that we could start a new feature of weekly in-depth comparison's of individual articles. It's a long shot whether they would accept us simply because we're part of their competition, but the Signpost would seem to fall within their definition of who is eligible for the program.--ragesoss (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- I am a bit confused why the possibility to link to a full article is being touted as news - this has already been possible for a long time, actually without the need to sign up as a web publisher. I am not sure when I saw that invitation to web masters on the EB site first, but I recall that this kind of free access had already been enabled when I made this edit in July 2007. Many Misplaced Pages articles already use this.
- By the way, last time I checked it didn't work for links on a preview page; you had to actually save the page. This probably means that they do not trust the HTTP referer alone, but check the page given there to verify that it actually links to the Britannica URL. (Or that someone at Britannica has taken some time to study MediaWiki URLs.)
- Regards, High on a tree (talk) 17:49, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the clarification. Maybe the only difference is that they are adding free 1-year subscriptions for "web publishers" to encourage more people to link to their (excessively ad-filled) articles. Some articles were describing this as part of a soft launch. In any case, now might be a good time to start a regular Signpost feature comparing specific articles.--ragesoss (talk) 19:08, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
User interface changes
Two changes were recently made:
- {{talkheader}} was changed on 8 April; it now automatically includes links to archive subpages, assuming the archive subpages are numbered in the standard manner (Archive 1, Archive 2, etc.). (Discussion.) That means it is no longer necessary to add the {{archive box}} template to a page in order to provide links to archive subpages (again, if named in the standard manner).
- The tab at the top of discussion pages that was labeled "+" is now labeled "new section", per this discussion. Editors who prefer the "+" label will find, at the "Gadgets" tab of "my preferences", the option (check box) that reads Change the "new section" tab text to instead display the much narrower "+", to put the tab back the way it was. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 21:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Another new change: Search now uses a suggestion drop-down— see . This can be disabled by checking:
- My Preferences → Search → Disable AJAX suggestions.
--— Gadget850 (Ed) - 18:26, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
If folks have not looked under My Preferences in a while, all sorts of options have been added in the last month or so, especially under Gadgets. See Special:Gadgets for definitions of all the installed gadgets. --— Gadget850 (Ed) - 23:24, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
Pro-Israel POV group
With all the rumors swirling around about pro-Israel cabalism taking place, possibly including some admins, this thread may be of some interest to Misplaced Pages participants . One long-time editor has already been indef blocked over it. Cla68 (talk) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- The episode has attracted press attention: . I'll try to add something to the Criticism of Misplaced Pages article about it. Cla68 (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
- Although El Reg normally isn't a source Signpost would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. Durova 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. Cla68 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- There have certainly been other instances of people attempting to manipulate content for ideological or profit motives. What I hope results from this is a realignment of the community's priorities. WP:COIN ought to be getting as many eyes and as much traffic as WP:AN. When the Wikiscanner came out last summer, three weeks of worldwide headlines proved that we weren't keeping our own house in order. That ought to have been a big eye opener; it wasn't. If it were reasonably certain that a campaign like this one would be caught - and swiftly - by Wikipedians, then this wouldn't be so much of a problem. Coordinated ideological manipulation of any sort is a direct assault on this site's credibility; our dedicated featured article writers would work in vain if the public weren't reasonably confident that most of Misplaced Pages is honest and most of the site is worth reading. Durova 18:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect that in discussions in the future about advocacy groups trying to control a subject or view in Misplaced Pages that this case will be one the examples most frequently referenced. Cla68 (talk) 00:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
- Although El Reg normally isn't a source Signpost would cite, this is currently on the front page of Slashdot. Durova 00:05, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
This didn't get covered in the latest edition of The Misplaced Pages Signpost, but FWIW here was the info covered in Wikinews from April 29 (new sources have covered it since then) - US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages. Cirt (talk) 17:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Mention in Karen Joy Fowler's latest novel
I don't know if this is the sort of thing the Signpost runs, but just in case ... Misplaced Pages plays a minor but noticeable role in Fowler's latest novel, Wit's End. The novel includes (on pages 144 to 146) the text (somewhat modified) of a real article from Misplaced Pages, Holy City, California, illustrating what the protagonist finds as she researches Holy City on Misplaced Pages. Another major character, a fictional mystery writer named A.B. Early, is involved in a minor edit war over her own article. Fowler is most notable as the author of The Jane Austen Book Club. Mike Christie (talk) 02:31, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
Mentioned in court by David Irving
David Irving, a "much-criticised historian", was recently evicted from a B&B due to his behavior. In an unsucessful breach-of-contract suit against the landlady Irving alleged that she "cooled towards him after her solicitor sent her a copy of his Misplaced Pages entry detailing his views and controversies." She denied it. The case was the written up in The Independent of London. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 10:03, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
wikipedia in mountain bike uk
wikipedia was in mountain bike uk fearuring some mountain biking terms Grandoldman (talk) 13:19, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
article 2,345,678
We announced article number 2,222,222. Do we announce 2,345,678? (I don't know which article that was). RJFJR (talk) 19:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- What's the point of looking for articles like that? I can see the importance of the 1 mill, 2 mill, and 2.5 millionth article, but what's the point? bibliomaniac15 Do I have your trust? 20:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
GA debate
I woul certainly hope that the next Signpost will include something about the rather fierce debate at WT:GA about putting the GA symbol on GA articles, similar to FAs. I have only see pros to this no cons. I would like to know if there are any cons to this. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, compared to previous discussions on the matter it's pretty tame. VanTucky 03:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
- The current count as of 19:47, 27 April 2008 (UTC) is 47 in support and 25 opposed. There is also some discussion of which symbol to use. VanTucky
- Further, I've offered a Dispatch slot to Geometry guy if he wants it, but I don't think this is yet worthy of the Signpost. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages in the News - Devil Dog article
Recent editing to theDevil Dog article (refer to the United States Marine Corps nickname) has been mentioned in the Marine Corps Times in discussing the current perception of the term amongst Marines:
- Tilghman, Andrew (April 27, 2008). "'Devil Dog' term taking a beating". Marine Corps Times. Retrieved 2008-04-27.
— ERcheck (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Item for In the News
Newsweek article; Eddie Izzard discusses his use of Misplaced Pages, amongst other topics. This article also mentions that Izzard reads from (and riffs on) Misplaced Pages as part of his current stand-up tour.--Father Goose (talk) 07:38, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Technology author and blogger endorses Misplaced Pages
See Misplaced Pages's concept is proved, The News & Observer, 30 April 2008, by Paul Gilster. Carcharoth (talk) 13:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC) Mentioned previously by IP editor.
NYB
Clearly we are aware of the story by now. Please do not discuss the item any further here, per his wishes. Ral315 (talk) 16:52, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Edits of switching superdelegate's bio on Slate
The Trail Head campaign blog on Slate covered the Anatomy of a Misplaced Pages Hijacking, the vandalism and responses that occurred in Joe Andrew after Andrew announced switching his support as a superdelegate from Clinton to Obama.--ragesoss (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
EFF tries to get Misplaced Pages lawsuit dismissed
As covered in Kansas City infoZine, Ars Technica and elsewhere, the Electronic Frontier Foundation and the Sheppard Mullin Richter & Hampton law firm have filed a motion to dismiss a case brought against the Wikimedia Foundation in January. Literary agent Barbara Bauer sued over alleged defamation that occurred in the Misplaced Pages article about her (now deleted because of NPOV, BLP and reliable sourcing concerns, after a heated debate during the second deletion discussion). The EFF argues that Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act protects the WMF from liability, as an "interactive computer services" provider rather than a traditional publisher that directly controls published content. This is a test of one of the central legal issues that both directly and indirectly contributes to Misplaced Pages's handling of biographies of living people.--ragesoss (talk) 16:54, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Note that this is almost certainly the first time that the legal theory that DMCA section 230 covers the WMF has been tested in court. Raul654 (talk) 17:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mike Godwin has requested any communications about this go to him, the EFF, or James Chadwick at Sheppard Mullin. Raul654 (talk) 17:46, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? VanTucky 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- According to Mike, the declaration you're referring to - which is not yet online - was a short declaration that the Barbara Bauer article is no longer available. Raul654 (talk) 16:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- The EFF motion frequently makes reference to a declaration by Mike Godwin. Is this available to read? VanTucky 02:03, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I see that a new Misplaced Pages article has been started, focusing on the case itself -- Bauer v. Glatzer. Cirt (talk) 17:17, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Cirt. I have a draft up at User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit. One thing I'm confused about is when this lawsuit started. Several sources mention January (2008), but mention of the lawsuit (with the same docket number as listed on the motion to dismiss) first appeared in the Barbara Bauer article well before that, and the court website lists it as having been filed in early March 2007.--ragesoss (talk) 17:53, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see that Ral315 (talk · contribs) deleted both Bauer v. Glatzer and User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit citing a WP:OFFICE request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. Cirt (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mike Godwin has asked that we not publish an article on this until after the case is decided.--ragesoss (talk) 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I see that Ral315 (talk · contribs) deleted both Bauer v. Glatzer and User:Ragesoss/Bauer lawsuit citing a WP:OFFICE request. Perhaps given this new development, it would be best for any piece covering this to rely heavily, if not exclusively, on material from secondary sources, and explicitly attribute information to those sources with "According to...", etc. Cirt (talk) 17:40, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Sources
Here are some sources that could be used. Cirt (talk) 17:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Davis, Wendy (2008-05-05). "Misplaced Pages Asks Court For Immunity From Liability For User Posts". MediaPost Publications. MediaPost Communications. Retrieved 2008-05-05.
- "EFF and Sheppard Mullin Defend Misplaced Pages in Defamation Case: Federal Law Protects Popular User-Created Encyclopedia From Liability". Electronic Frontier Foundation. www.eff.org. 2008-05-02. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Anderson, Nate (2008-05-02). "Dumb idea: suing Misplaced Pages for calling you "dumb"". Ars Technica - The Art of Technology: From the News Desk. Ars Technica, LLC. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Jones, K.C. (2008-05-02). "Misplaced Pages Battles Literary Agent Over Negative Comments: While many sites add user-generated content to enhance user experience, Misplaced Pages relies almost entirely on posts from contributors". InformationWeek. United Business Media. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- "Misplaced Pages v literary agent Barbara Bauer". p2pnet news. www.p2pnet.net. 2008-05-02. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Bayard, Sam (2008-05-02). "Bauer v. Wikimedia". Citizen Media Law Project. www.citmedialaw.org, Project hosted by Berkman Center for Internet & Society. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
WikiProject Good Articles May Newsletter
The May Newsletter for WikiProject Good Articles has now been published. Dr. Cash (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
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New magic word: PAGESIZE
A new magic word was recently implemented, but not covered in Misplaced Pages Signpost. {{PAGESIZE:page name}}
returns the size of the given page name (bug 12698, r33551). This contributes to a page's expensive parser function count. For example:
- "
{{PAGESIZE:Main Page}}
" = "4,769" (default); - "
{{PAGESIZE:Main Page|R}}
" = "4769" (with raw flag).
—{admin} Pathoschild 09:49:27, 03 May 2008 (UTC)
National Post attacks editor, global warming coverage
The National Post is running an opinion piece called "The opinionator" by Lawrence Solomon (User:Lawrence Solomon, author of a book and many articles about global warming deniers) attacking User:William M. Connolley for supposedly enforcing his own opinions on global warming articles and smearing prominent scientists whose views on global warming differ from "global warming orthodoxy".
As part of Solomon's extended writing on "The Deniers", the Post has been publishing a series of anti-Misplaced Pages pieces in the last several weeks. The earlier ones are "Misplaced Pages's zealots", Hide your name on Wicked Pedia, and The real climate Martians.--ragesoss (talk) 17:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
CAMERA campaign makes mainstream news
Related to "Pro-Israel POV group" above:
The Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America (CAMERA) has been engaged in a campaign (the subject of a recently accepted Arbcom case) to fight against alleged anti-Israel bias in Misplaced Pages, including attempts to install administrators who can help enforce CAMERA's viewpoint. The Boston Globe (CAMERA is based in Boston) is running an article, War of the virtual Wiki-worlds, on the CAMERA campaign and the efforts of the pro-Palestinian Electronic Intifada to expose and discredit the campaign.
CAMERA also published an article today, How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages, publicly encouraging CAMERA readers to become Misplaced Pages editors. On a quick review, I notice nothing too out-of-hand in this article (in contrast to some of the leaked correspondence described in the Boston Globe piece).
Note that this intersects with the recent Wikinews Department of Justice banning story (also covered by The Register and elsewhere); the DoJ IPs were banned for attempting to remove material from the CAMERA article.--ragesoss (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm curious - where are the emails published? Raul654 (talk) 17:51, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Sources
Here are some of the related sources covering the above-mentioned info. Cirt (talk) 17:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ini, Gilead (2008-05-03). "CAMERA: How and Why to Edit Misplaced Pages". CAMERA - Media Analyses. Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting in America. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Beam, Alex (2005-05-03). "War of the virtual Wiki-worlds". The Boston Globe. The New York Times Company. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Leahy, Brian (2008-04-30). "Department of Justice Temp Banned from Misplaced Pages". G4 - The Feed - The Only News You Need to Know. G4 TV. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- "US Dept. of Justice IP address blocked after 'vandalism' edits to Misplaced Pages". Wikinews. 2008-04-29. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
- Weiss, Philip (2008-04-24). "If You Don`t Want to Be Labelled a Cabal, Don`t Act Like One". Israel News. www.israelenews.com. Retrieved 2008-05-04.
Featured list director
There is currently a movement/vote underway to select a Featured List director (or more probably two). See Misplaced Pages talk:Featured list candidates for background/ongoing discussion, and Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/Featured list director for the current vote. As FA director, User:Raul654 has been asked (and has agreed) to close the vote and appoint the directors on 8th May. The two users with the most votes currently are User:Scorpion0422 and User:The Rambling Man. Tompw (talk) (review) 13:12, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- This will be covered in the May 12 Dispatch. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -Ravedave (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- I don't see any reason why it can't get a brief mention in News and notes. Ral315 (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- So? That isn't a reason to not mention it. I only came across the whole thing by chance - surely the more people who know, the better? Tompw (talk) (review) 15:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because ? It's announced at the Village Pump (proposals), Village Pump (policy) and all the important (i.e.; trafficed) FAC pages. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 14:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make sense to mention it before the voting closes as well? -Ravedave (talk) 14:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)