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Your kinda new here so I will give you a break. Any massages you give a person has to be on their talkpage, not userpage. Also, I gave you a welcome at the top of the page. Welcome!--<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> 08:22, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:Oh, your not new. Looking at your archives, your really not new.--<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> 08:23, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::It's OK with me. If your not new, why didn't you create full userpage for yourself? Right now, there are only 3 barnstars on your page. --<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> 08:32, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
:::I suggest recreating it. It looks kinda empty. Don't forget to sign my ].--<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> 08:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
::::OK, talk to you tommorrow, er, today I guess.--<font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> <font face="Edwardian Script ITC" size="3">]</font> 08:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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=== Yep ===
About the deletion of the subpages of the template 10^, i didnt realize they were actually used by the 10^ template. So i took them off the TFD page. (I forgot to take off the tags...) <font face="terminal">]]<sup>]</sup></font> 11:51, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
:That had been my guess. I should probably add a bit of documentation to them. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 01:24, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== Just a quession... ==
Do you edit yourself out of your own talk page, or do you really not respond to posts here? I find your talk page a bit confusticating. Didn't come here to complain about anything, I just find it unusual. — <b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;">]</span></b> &#91;]&#93; &#91;]&#93; <b>‹(-¿-)›</b> 10:59, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
:I tend to respond on the talk pages of those who post here. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 11:57, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

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== In case you're not watching this page ==
Your addition to {{tl|ScientificValue/units}} has a problem, see ] for details.<br />-- ] (]) 10:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
:Thanx. fixt. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 16:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

== auto templates ==

Is there a documented discussion showing not to use the auto templates or is this just your preference? ''']''' <small>(])</small> 16:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

:Replying ]. ''']''' <small>(])</small> 18:22, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

==Not talking over the head of the readership==
Jimp: Here’s another important issue we’re (list of “we” ]) trying to address: An article on advanced programming for software developers might best use “kibibytes” (KiB) whereas general-interest articles should adhere to the more familiar "kilobyte” (KB) to avoid confusion (see ] (scroll down) and ]). And also these:
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== Metrication Articles ==
JIMP Do not edit out my edits unless you can provided evidence i.e citation that they are wrong <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:29, 16 April 2008</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->

:58.87.8.23, my friend, it's up to you to provide citation that they are right. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 08:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

I can but can provide any citation of the existing text? If not leave it alone or the article is not correct or balanced in view <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:31, 18 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Lane Cove National Park, Parks, Infoboxes, Hectares ==
::''My reply is at ]''
Section title just about covers it. Hi JimP. I noticed your recent edits to ]. It really needed an infobox didn't it? Your edits have raised several issues or projects that I had put on the way-backburner, hence this section name. I'll just run over them to let you know some the directions I think some of them should take.

There are a lot of Australian and NSW National Park (protected area) articles that could use some love and attention (Lane Cove was an obvious example). Is there a project somewhere that you know of that is doing this?

I noticed that you used '''{{tl|Infobox park}}'''. Have you seen '''{{tl|Geobox/type/nature}}'''? I had actually been playing with it using Lane Cove as a test in my ]. Note that some the parameters there are garbage. I think the box looks pretty cool. '''Geobox|Protected Area''' is fairly widely used. Is there some wikiconvention that would break? I am still a bit of a noob.


Next beef. Hectares. I had tried to edit an article on a park in the US. The area was given in acres and square kilometres. I changed the conversion from square kilometres to hectares and was roundly smacked. I was informed that hectares were "deprecated" and not to be used in WP. After a long laugh and several hearty discussions I managed to turn three contributors around to see that hectares are perfectly valid units for land measurement. Then I thought only a couple of million other US contributors to go and rightly put that fight on the backburner. In my robust discussions on the matter I came across a now disappeared user (Bobblewik) who took it upon himself to "excise" hectares from WP. ] was one such article. The original text was hectares and were converted to square kilometres in hard text. Most if not all NSW national park articles have received the same treatment. In some cases there has been a loss of significant digit information due to rounding. Note that most park administrators (NSWPWS, Victoria, SA, etc) list hectares and would be used as source for many articles. If you get into infoboxing park articles could you bear this in mind. When I have enough wikitime I would like to address national park articles to make sure listed areas reflect sources with respect to units and values of their areas.

Random musings. Feedback appreciated. ] (]) 05:40, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

:Thanks for the reply. Short on time this weekend. When I have more of it (time) I will do some work on NSW national parks to the extent I can. <br />The hectares thing has really surprised me. Here is a recent that shows that there are <s>many </s>some editors who still avoid hectares. Where I came across the belief that hectares shouldn't be used in WP was a similar situation. The article used acres first and converted to sqkm for metric users. I find that generally, wherever acres are used, hectares is logical unit to use for conversion. Then there is the slightly different question of where the article would normally use metric units first and may not even have a non-metric conversion. This is where I would expect to see hectares used for managed land area - afterall the managers almost always use hectares. I was fully stunned at the extent to which hectares have been removed in this situation. The subject has been touched on by editors asking the question, but no consensus was achieved or recorded. I had noticed the work you linked to on ''MOSNUM follow the current literature''. I had backed away from it in fright not too long ago. I will have another read next week. Also have a look at recent I made to the ] article. There is a long story that helps to explain why hectares got such a bad wrap, both NIST & BIPM are involved. The edits partially reflect the story. I can dig up the rest next week. A lot of this is or should be self-evident and shouldn't really need to be spelt out in MoS, but otherwise, where else? ] (]) 13:44, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

== Using policy pages as scratchpads ==
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The stuff that is going on at wp:mosnum bothers me. Surely policies should only go live when reasonably well formed and agreed. At least I thought that was what we required of other editors. What are your thoughts on this? ] (]) 22:33, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
:It is certainly not the standard way of going about things. A note on the page alerting people to the fact that discussions related to the particular section in question are in progress would be a useful thing to have but spelling a proposal out in full is likely to cause confusion. My thoughts on this really haven't changed since 9:06 am GMT 18 April 2008 when ] of the removal of the proposal (then in the guise of policy) by you & Thunderbird2. My preference would have been to have had it removed again but, not wanting an edit war, I thought that by labelling it as a proposed guideline a compromise might be reached. Still, I feel that we might be setting a dangerous precident here. I'd not want to see this kind of approach taken again. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 01:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
::A slower approach to change on style guidelines pages was what I was asking for at ]; all I could get there was a lack of direct opposition to the idea of posting a notice that changes sometimes happen slower on style guidelines pages. Kim made a pretty solid point that no one can ever say "you can't do things that way", and he indicated the same consensus had been reached over and over, and no one on WP:VPP disagreed. I really am hopeful that the monthly summaries will smooth out the wrinkles.
::I came over to ask: Jimp, what did you mean when you said a few hours ago that the proposal is "gone"? Isn't it there on the protected page under "follow current literature"? (Feel free to reply here) - Dan ] (])(]) 01:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
:::I missed it. I was looking for the green box where it had been living. <span title="Representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA)" class="IPA">]<small><code>]</code><span class="Unicode">]</span></small>]</span> 02:19, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

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:There are currently 3 of them showing up in the speedy deletion category - you may want to fix those before they get deleted again ;) ] (]) 06:17, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

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