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== John Norum == | ||
You've started a war editing with no reason. John is the co-founder AND the current Europe axeman, so there's no need to edit this information. If you want to edit that page adding or modifying important informations you're free to do it, but you've also to respect others' contributions, expecially if they are checked and correct. Have a good wikitime. --MusicIsMyLove 07:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
You're welcome! Keep up the great work! Regards, <strong><font style="color: #082567">]</font>]<font style="color: #082567">]</font></strong> 14:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
: I'm not a teenager since a LOT of years, and your approach to this page written almost entirely by me was and still is really impolite. Next time, try to explain your editing avoiding offensive tones, and keeping the respect for the ones that worked hard to write a good and useful article. I can easily change the word axeman, but you'd have to keep in mind that AXEMAN is the common way to call a guitarist. --MusicIsMyLove 10:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== ] == | |||
:: English is not my first language, but I have the same right to write an article in English without asking the permission to do it. If I'm wronging, please update me. If you want to edit it because of grammar mistakes, do it, EXPLAINING the editing and keeping a polite mode. Thanks.--MusicIsMyLove 11:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
The edit I had undone had replaced the genre with the phrase "Crap Metal". This is clear vandalism. (] (]) 17:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)) | |||
:I just saw where you edit blanked 4 citations, which shows up as vandalism also in a popup window. I have replaced them (twice) along with the correct link which avoid the re-direct. ] <small> (])</small> 17:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: I totally agree with you when you state that the most important thing here is to have good articles, correctly written and respectful of the Wiki rules. And it's my aim to do my best with my contributions. It's the way you persist considering it "horribly written", "childish", "extremely poor" and so on that's offensive for the people that work at it since years. This article is here since years, a lot of people has given their contributions but you're the one and the only that has expressed a personal opinion in such bad terms. None is a teacher here, and no one could personally state if an article is good or bad, Wiki is a peer to peer community. So, each opinion will be taken in the right consideration, if expressed respectfully.--MusicIsMyLove 12:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Bon Jovi == | |||
Got your message. Will gladly help. The article had more issues than just that poorly written lead. All the text is a copyvio cut/paste from an external website. I will alert an admin friend as to what has happened and see what he thinks should be done. ] (]) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Update. It's a copy/paste ] issue. Most/all of the text will have to be removed. If you need resources to try and build the article back up I am a librarian and can likely find some pro publications in our database that I can link to you for some decent content. have a nice day! ] (]) 14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: Someone here tried to delete this article writing that it was a copy/past of the content of another website. Well, I've written most of the parts of this article, and I've taken some of the content from a website dedicated to John Norum. I'm the administrator of that website, I have no problem in giving the authorization to use that content. Since I've checked every single infos before publish them, and I've written just facts and not personal opinions, please let me know in which way it could be seen as a conflict of interests. Anyway, someone else has re-edited. Before starting a war, let's talk!--MusicIsMyLove 16:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Why do you keep deleting my addition Re: Jon Bon Jovi is the only member under contract with their current record company. The other members work for Jon. It is believed that this is the only band that has this type of arrangement.........Jon himself said this on Dateline May 18/08 | |||
That's still a ] issue and I can't help with that. The text from your website can't be added. And you can't edit the page based on anything to do with your personal website since that becomes a conflict of interest. An editor has offered an opportunity to create a referenced article using valid citations. Fansites do not meet ] and can't be used as refs. We will have to rebuild from scratch using something else. Your website is fine for your enjoyment. But it can't be used for Misplaced Pages. ] <small> (])</small> 21:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 00:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)Vanhager | |||
:Read ] and ] and ] and you'll know why. ] <small> (])</small> 00:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::It seems that's really hard for you to be a bit more polite, isn't it? You're tremendously OFFENSIVE, and you aren't able to understand that write things like "it's a poor quality article from a poor quality website" are offensive words. Who are you to judge the quality of a website? My website wasn't born "for my enjoyment" but to give CORRECT and more infos about John Norum, since at that time it was really hard to find something about him on the net. And since I'm a hard music lover and a huge Norum's admirer, I've checked every single info. I still don't understand the reason why a correct source of information as that article was (since 2 years) has been deleted and not simply edited. | |||
== Well Hello! == | |||
::I still don't think that this attitude is correct and respectful of others' contributors work. MusicIsMyLove 21:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I just call it like I see it. Sorry if you don't like a blunt opinion. I don't cow-tow around anything on Misplaced Pages. I just do what needs to be done and let the Barnstars speak for themselves. The John Norum article will be improved. But it will be improved following all ] and ]. That's the only way I know how to do it and do it properly. Read ], ] and ]. Also read ]. These are the foundations Wiki was built on. The offer for citations came from a librarian who has access to material that will meet Misplaced Pages's ] policy. It was a generous offer which I will take him up on when I have more time to apply to it. For now all I have time for is vandal hunting.(which is a non-stop need on Misplaced Pages). ] <small> (])</small> 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::You've given just your opinion. It's not my aim to start a fight, I have a life and tons of things in my life that need my attention. That's a hobby for me, not a MISSION as it seems that's for you. You've stated that the article will be improuved. Well, I hope so. And I hope that it will be re-edited in the best English ever and following all the English Wiki's rules. I'll be there to check every single info that will be written, and I'll edit all the ones that won't be correct. Work well! MusicIsMyLove 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Hey, it's great to hear from you. Yeah, I experienced some changes in my schedule as well. My Wiki-time faded away. But these days I think I should be able to squeeze in some RC patrolling and hopefully some other stuff, like the Guitarist Project. | |||
Your assistance will be appreciated. But mind Misplaced Pages's ] policy. Your "correct" must mean correct and not just POV. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. But poorly written articles can be torn down in a second. Good articles take time and patience. And ] from ]. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Thanks. I'll do my best to be helpful. "Correct" in this case meant to have checked every single info. In which way? Asking to people closely related to Mr Norum, to Mr Norum himself, checking the official website and the official bulletins on the media. Etc etc etc. Only one official biography of Mr Norum was published, it's written in Swedish language and it was in the booklet of the Swedish special edition of "Face the Truth" album. I have it and I've translated it for my site and for Wiki. No other official reliable sources. Just tons of uncorrect infos on the music related sites. So... once again, work well! Take care. MusicIsMyLove 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
We'll see. Superfluities beware. ;) Cheers! ] (]) 12:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== Wikiproject: Guitarists == | ||
Thanks for the welcome anger. Quick question for you, what is a typical "reliable" source for information regarding guitars? Manufacturers websites? Thanks ] (]) 22:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Can you explain why you have removed two references that I added to articles published relating to both Ozzy Osbourne and the film, I Am Legend? In both cases, these references enhance the overall articles. What is your problem with the references? ] (]) 17:03, 21 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:They are linking to a "who cares what he said" nobody. That's what's wrong with them. ] <small> (])</small> 21:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::They are linking to articles published in academic journals. Academic journals automatically confer authority by being peer-reviewed. Look at the links before deleting useful information. ] (]) 01:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
I don't need to look at the links. THe Wiki-link to the author is a "red link". Case closed. If they aren't notable enough to have an article on Misplaced Pages, then they aren't notable enough to have their opinion posted about a Misplaced Pages subject. ] <small> (])</small> 10:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:That is a poor argument. You are making the circular case that if its not in Misplaced Pages then its not valid, so it can't be added to Misplaced Pages. Obviously something that is being added to Misplaced Pages is not already IN Misplaced Pages. The red links are meant to indicate the NEED for an article on the given name or subject. There are lots of red links throughout Misplaced Pages. What has been added in all 3 of the cases in which you've deleted now are links to academic sources that directly relate to the subject matter of the Wiki-article in question. Simply, you cannot use Misplaced Pages as the judge for inclusion if this is used to exclude articles of interest to the reader that would in themselves enhance Misplaced Pages.] (]) 14:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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==Black Ice== | ||
I'm just glad to see I'm not the only person reverting this stuff. Cheers. ] (]) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Exactly - there's a pretty good chance that will be the right title for the album, but I want to see some decent source to prove it first. Then I'll be right there reverting myself, I guess! Anyway, I'm doing okay somehow, despite the best efforts of some people in life! Hope you're doing well too :) ] (]) 23:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks == | |||
thanks for inviting me to join the Guitar Project - i'm actually more of a Keith-Richards-Spotter and Stones History Freak than a true fully-fledged Guitar Anorak, so i'm not sure i've got the broader knowledge/reference works/resources to contribute much to the overall project beyond those particular subject areas. it's pleasant to be invited, though! so thanks - i will certainly keep on the lookout for ways to contribute even if i don't decide to sign up. | |||
, i tend to always check the history to see that i get all the vandalism but obviously i didn't do it well this time! ] (]) 01:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
one Recurring Theme i've noticed while editing guitarist-related articles is that it isn't very clear what's supposed to be in the "notable instruments" part of the info boxes. i understand that criteria for what should be in that section were hammered out in detail a long time ago, but for newer editors (like myself) it would be really helpful to have those criteria spelled out somewhere easy to find (eg on the project page?) so that a link could be given to enlighten folks when removing "wrong" stuff they've entered. one example is ], whose info box now lists "various Zemaitis instruments" (that much is clear!), "ESP signature model" (the ESPs he uses are in fact - and to me notably - outfitted with b-benders, which are not standard on the Ronnie Wood Signature ESP), and "Duesenberg signature model" (which he hardly ever uses anymore - it was seen maybe twice during the whole Bigger Bang Tour). this is just one example, of course, but it *is* difficult to understand why those are considered "notable Ronnie Wood guitars" when interesting instruments that he uses regularly (like his vintage Stratocasters, his Danelectro "sitar guitar", his beautiful Gibson J-200, etc etc) keep getting deleted when people try adding them. | |||
:No prob. For me, since I edit so many music articles I just compare the current version to the last time I edited it myself and look for the fluff. Speaking of which, that article is still loaded with it and could use some extra care if you have the time. ] <small> (])</small> 01:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== The Nobs == | |||
ahem, sorry for the excess wordiness - what i mean to say is that the existing crietria for that section of the info boxes aren't self-evident, so it would be really really helpful to me and other well-intentioned newcomers if the criteria could be written up clearly and displayed in some easy-to-locate place. | |||
The article was merged with less than 50 minutes of discussion by User:Xymmax and only one person nominating. There was no discussion of it on the article talkpage. That IMO is poor. ] (]) 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Please inform me of any other Zeppelin related AfD nominations you come across. I've kept on notify almost all of them, but not some of the peripheral ones. ] (]) 04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== is/are == | |||
:The original plan for the Guitarist project's "notable instrument" field was to be very strict. It isn't supposed to be an overall equipment list. It was originally only meant to bring attention to specific "individual" instruments (like 'Blackie' or 'First Wife' or 'Micawber') but its use has ballooned over time. I personally don't see "signature instruments" as being notable unless the guitarist themselves had some input into their design (which many of them do). Most "sigs" are just marketing. As for Woody, for me, he is the first guitarist I think of when I hear the name Zemaitis. That's just me. The other guitars in his infobox do not mean very much to me. They stretch the original intention of the field to its max. If Woody has a specific early model Strat which he has used for the bulk of his career (and I believe he has) then to me that instrument is more notable than the sig models. But being included in the infobox doesn't say much about his vintage Strat(s). For notable instruments, in the hands of notable guitarists, the article should(must) have a decently referenced "equipment section" in the main body of the article. That is my thought anyways. I would be keen to see Ronnie's infobox field cleaned up. And if you are knowledgeable on the subject then by all means do so. I am partial to Strats so I am biased. When I was a little boy my favorite guitarists were Scotty Moore and Franny Beecher.(am I dating myself?) When I was ten I asked my parents for a Kay model electric guitar out of a department store catalog. My parents, without knowing what they were doing, went to a neighboring city to a "real" music shop looking for a guitar for me. The salesman "rubed" them good. The Kay I wanted was relatively cheap. And this music store crook sold them a guitar that cost more than twice what I had wanted. And home they came to me with a brand new Fender Stratocaster! To really date myself that puts a 1962 Strat in the hands of a 10 year old. I still own it. It's seen better days but all the nicks and bumps haven't made it any less playable. When I was a teenager I saved my own money and bought an identical twin to my first '62. I still have it as well. I keep both guitars locked away at my home studio. They are worth a few pennies these days so I tend to horde them like an old miser. Feel free to do whatever you want to improve any guitar/Stones related pages. And feel free to ask me questions anytime. Cheers and have a nice day. ] <small> (])</small> 13:06, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
hiya. | |||
::thanks for the very cool story! and i don't know about you, but for me the power & glory of growing up with that music makes me feel really blessed to be the age i am (a few years younger than you) - there aren't a lot of things that make me glad about that, so i really *really* appreciate the ones that do! | |||
::thanks too for the go-ahead to amend Ronnie's "notable instruments", but i know from experience that unless/until some clear "authoritative" criteria are outlined somewhere that i can refer people to, some other editor will just undo the changes. so it would be splendid if outlining the criteria clearly on the project page could be one of the undertakings of the revival of the Guitar Project. | |||
::as for Woody's guitars in particular: yeah his Zemaitises are THE "Ronnie guitars" for sure - but he has a pair of vintage Strats (1954 and 55) that he's been very loyal to (and vice versa) - plus that lovely Mary Kay Strat that he gave to Keith after the 1982 tour (Keith still uses it on stage). the Duesenberg was really only a one-tour phenomenon, so i'm not sure why it's mentioned; to me the Strats, the J-200 and the Danelectro "sitar guitar" are a lot more notable, distinctive, "Ronnie-esque", etc. a detailed "gear section" would certainly be a very worthy addition to his article, and could mention his clear penchant for "boutique guitars" like the Duesenberg, the ESPs, the Versouls, etc; i'll ponder what i might be able to do toward writing/referencing sections like that for both Keith and Ronnie. | |||
::meanwhile though, clear and easy-to-locate criteria for the "notable instruments" section really would be a big help to all the guitarist-related articles. thanks and swing on ] (]) 15:22, 22 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
regarding the gnr article, I know that an American band should use American English (seems fair to me) however I wasn't changing the grammar based on American/British English, I was changing it based on the rules for collective nouns, in both British and American English, we should use "are" when refering to a band name that uses plurals. check out the link on the gnr talk page if you want more info. thanks ] (]) 17:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== hey == | |||
:And after I left my post I found other similar examples of are being used for band names using plurals. Looks OK to me. By text book rules, Canadians should use British English. But due to our close proximity to the US we tend to alter our day-to-day speech/text to mimic those of our neighbour, rather than that of our British heritage. And, having finished my own education 30 years ago, I tend to forget the textbooks. Thanks for the follow up. Cheers and take care. ] <small> (])</small> 17:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: It's not a big problem - I always think people should use the grammar related to the subject in question - but in this case the grammar is the same for both American and British English... I get confused with both of them, I am British, I work abroad and use American English on a daily basis. ] (]) 18:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
metallica has sold 100 million albums..they themselves have said it in an interview and all all there sales together you will see <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 02:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:But the reference doesn't say that so it can't be changed until a new reference has been added. And Metallica saying it themselves is not a reliable source. It has to come from a third party source that is verifiable. ] <small> (])</small> 10:02, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::: I'd appreciate it if you would have not left me with a vandalism warning on my talk page, and instead, would have explained the situation to me on my talk page as you would have done to a regular contributor. Thank you. ] (]) 15:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Project== | |||
::::It wasn't a vandalism warning it was a article 'testing' reminder for ignoring ]. If you make a wrong edit your are obligated to correct your own mistake. You left the article in an incorrect "Yankee" grammar state rather than the proper British grammar wording. Just don't do it again. ] <small> (])</small> 20:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Led Zeppelin links == | |||
Hi Anger22, thanks for the invite. I've put my name down and will do my best to help where and when I can. All the best, ] (]) 18:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
Uhm, from a LZ forum I found an interesting site about Led Zeppelin discographies: . | |||
== listen up == | |||
I think it's a huge list of records / cds that it's not available anywhere else. I see that it was removed but billboard (is it a discography?!?) and Discogs (this was supposed to be interesting but now is only a waste of time) are still there. | |||
Will you let me understand better what's ok or helpful or important or interesting for you? | |||
Thanks | |||
Artemio | |||
:Read ]. Your link has been discussed by other editors and consensus is not to include it. ] <small> (])</small> 22:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Ok, I didn't understand why as well, but if this are the rules I'll understand wikipedia a little bit better. Not what is interesting but what you decide? I don't care about that site but as a Led Zeppelin addict I think is unique, isn't it? Thanks for your useless reply. Artemio | |||
You don't care about your own personal website that you have been trying to spam Misplaced Pages with for over a year? ] <small> (])</small> 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
: you're probably referring to someone else, I guess. Artemio <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 13:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Good grief. == | |||
F.Y.I. black sabbath is gothic rock or gothic metal.If you look up on wikipedia gothic metal and scroll down you'll see a picture of there album and read the text under it. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 21:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:It says they are an influence. It does not say that they play gothic metal, and rightfully do. Black Sabbath are an influence on Doom metal as well. But they have never actually played that either. Adding that genre to their infobox is as acurate as adding bluegrass or opera. ] <small> (])</small> 00:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
] (]) 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Rollback. == | |||
:Oops - forgot the body of the message - bad copy/paste job - Sorry :-) | |||
Actually, that wasn't rollback (it would be an abuse of rollback), I was reverting manually using "Removed cause of death." as the edit summary. Anyway, fixed the rest of them. Cheers, and thanks for spotting that. · ] <sup>]</sup> 19:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:But never mind, by now it's already covered om my talk page. Thanks & cheers, ] (]) 10:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:So now I'm the stalker, is that it? ;) · ] <sup>]</sup> 19:26, 24 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::In that case, good, because I've done an awful lot of it. Heh... · ] <sup>]</sup> 19:33, 24 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::My lips are sealed. ;) Well, hope to run into you again sometime. Cheers, · ] <sup>]</sup> 19:36, 24 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
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==No problem== | ||
You're welcome, and my apologies. I'll explain on the talk page in a bit. ] ] 04:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Re:Need your assistance == | |||
Why have you undon the changes I did on the Heavy Metal page with Grincore. Grindcore, though being a descendant of crust-punk, is considered a metal subcategory. If you don't change it, I'll just do it myself. (]) 19:47, 26 May 2008 (EST) | |||
:Then you will be edit warring and you will end up blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Your choice. ] <small> (])</small> 01:07, 27 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I've done quite a few research on the subject, and I can surely tell you Grindcore is part of Heavy Metal. If you need any sources , I'll give you some. Allmusic guide, which gives a clear statement about Grindcore's origins and the related styles (Death Metal/Black Metal and Speed Metal) and also the movie Metal, A Headbanger's Journey, a very reliable documentary which clearly places Grindcore as a part of the Heavy Metal tree. Now, I'm sorry to bring you back to earth, but I am right, stop destroying valuable information on Misplaced Pages, for this is almost vandalism. (]) 21:42, 27 May 2008 (EST) <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) </small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:::Perhaps you had better read ] before making accusations. And while you are at it you can read ]. It will help you understand the report to the admins concerning your use of multiple accounts/IPs to edit war on Misplaced Pages. After reading that you can read ]. And when you are done that read ] and ]. All very useful. Also, where your recent edit is concerned read ]. You will need to understand all of these policies before you continue or you time here will be a short one. If you have any questions about any of your multiple violations of Misplaced Pages policy fell free to ask and I will direct you to one of my admin friends and they will explain further. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 02:36, 28 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::I only use one account and one IP adress, and I find it offensive that you accuse me of the opposite, though I do apologies for saying what you wrote was vandalism. I did not violate the three-revert rule for I did not do more than 3 reverts in 24 hours. And I did add a link to a valuable source (Allmusic.com) in my last change. For the last thing you told me to check, which is the consensus policy, I'm just tired of writing things that have valuable sources and having people take them off. I am not trying to create any internet war, or I wouldn't have written to you in the first place to explain what I had written, I'm just trying to post facts. Grindcore had been on the Misplaced Pages Heavy Metal page for a long time, and somebody decided to take it off, I therefore wanted it back on the page. Anyways, I am simply going to debate this on the Heavy Metal talk page. Anyways, thanks for reading this, and reply to me if you want to continue this discussion. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 22:16, 28 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:::::I jsut saw what you were talking about for the sock puppet, it's 69.70.169.168, which is basically when I'm in a hurry and forget to sign in Misplaced Pages, it is the same IP adress, just to let you know, I was not assuming any other identity, it was simply that I wasn't signed in. Thank you for your comprehension. ] <small>—Preceding ] was added at 00:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Apologies, I had just gone offline when the message was left (contrary to my 'this user is online' thing...) but Journalist seems to have reverted him/herself, so you should be free to discuss the issue on the talk page now. ] (]) 11:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Support == | |||
Dear Anger22. Thank you for your support. It was most unexpected but welcome. If you need any help with anything, just let me know. ] (]) 01:21, 27 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== The Game == | |||
== Why so defensive on the list of sweep pickers? == | |||
The Queen project does not have the right to over-ride wikipeida's core policies of ] and the related guideline of ]. Please revert yourself to the version that most closely complies with these policies. -- ] 04:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
You've reverted my edit twice now. Why is this? Everyone knows, even without sources, that Steve Morse and the others I removed are not known for their sweeping; they're primarily alternate pickers, and the ones I added are indeed very well known for sweeping. If one is supposed to 'source' a song to prove the aforementioned, how on Earth is that possible? And judging by the edit history of the article, you seem to have adopted some defensive position as its chief editor or something. No-one gets a word in but you? Laughable! ] (]) 14:32, 28 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I replied on the article talk page and will wait to here from that Projects active members as to what should be done. It's simple respect. I 'have the com' on a few Wiki projects. And if someone steps in and goes against any of those Project mandates that person gets blocked for the disturbance. I am not a meber of the Queen Project. But I will respect them enough to see what they say on the matter. Misplaced Pages is a community. Not an indiviual effort. ] <small> (])</small> 04:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::If you respect Wikipeida's consensus process, you will agree that the community as a whole supports ] and its application to '''all''' articles and projects. However the Queen project decides is the best way to organize single and album discussions, they are not allowed to violate the ocmmunity's consensus that ] is allowed and all analysis must be sourced. I ask you again to return the article to a version that does not so blatantly violate these core ideals of Misplaced Pages.-- ] 04:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::And your claim that the Queen Project decided to merge all the individual song articles to the album is dated as well. Most of the songs have their own individual mostly unsourced articles. -- ] 04:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Only the single were given reprieve during their AfD process. Non-singles were merged. | |||
Keeping cruft is not a habit. I am a staunch Wiki-deletionist and I try to AfD or speedy delete massive volumes of tripe on Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. But I support a community decision. Wiki is the only place where consensus can outweigh verifiablity. And a Wiki Project took it upon itself to nominate dozens of articles covered under its own mandate. And the result of the AfD procedure, which was a full community choice, was to merge the content into the main album articles. This was done for every album from the band not just the one you have dispute with. Trust me, of English Misplaced Pages's 2.5 million articles I would gladly delete 2 million of them if I had the power. But the project is built on community so the community always wins. Jimbo's first rule of editing is to ignore all the rules. But never at the cost of the community, or its consensus as to how it is built. All in due time. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 04:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Until the '''Misplaced Pages''' community consensus decides that ] is not a policy, the policy over-rides any individual project's decision to do otherwise. The policy is clearly written | |||
Ah, scratch that. I think my page refreshes were delayed, so it looked like Gilbert/Morse/Lane/etc. had been added back on the most recent edit. I still think Impellitteri and Romeo should be on there, but I can live with how it is as long as the most obvious ALTERNATE pickers aren't on there... <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:14, 28 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
"Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material '''may be removed.'''" It does not say "must be tagged" and allowed to sit for six months. Unsourced material "may be removed." -- ] 05:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:You have to be careful about ]. Misplaced Pages isn't just a list of examples. Especially since most just tend to be POV favourite lists. As for your removals, those guitarists, skill wise, can "sweep" as well as any of the remaining players on that list. Most of them are equally adapt at alternate picking, sweep picking and hybrid picking styles. (especially players like Morse who move from one to the other effortlessly). Making lists smalled is a good thing. Your additions were "niche" additions that 99% of readers will have never heard of. So they are wp:lc entries. It's all a part of constructive encyclopedia building. ] <small> (])</small> 20:25, 28 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Please revert yourself on Neither you nor the Queen Project have the authroity to ignore ]. -- ] 03:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I did spot the 2 offending little bits in the lead. Apologies for not picking that off before. As for the merged content you must show some patience to the Project covering these pages. One day isn't patience. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. If no active members have been online to see the alert placed on their Project then we should repect them and wait. The tag which I placed to identify your concern with the page draws attention from the entire Misplaced Pages community not just the Queen project. {Original research} tags are like magnets for Wiki-cleanliness-klans. Patience and restraint. Its not too hard. ] <small> (])</small> 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::Can you point out when the merge occured? I have looked back as far as November and the only significant additions to the article are a few sentances of clearly unsourced opinion. | |||
:::And again, the Queen project does not have the authority to put Misplaced Pages policies "on hold" for an additional six months until they decide to provide sources. ] says the unsourced material should come out. At any time in the future, editors from the project are still free to add sourced analysis to the article. -- ] 03:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::Again I will ask you to revert your . While patience is a virtue, it is not a policy while ] is policy. -- ] 00:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Ah, but I didn't insert unsourced material. I simply replaced material blanked in bad faith of WP:AGF. Your 1 WP:V is trumped by WP:AGF, WP:POINT, WP:EQ etc. As I have said. I am a deletionist. I hate OR and uncited content. But I respect Misplaced Pages Project mandates. And I respect "the process". Had I been a part of the AfD's which resulted in the merged content I would've voted to delete it. But I ws not a part of that process and the process said merge. My AGF is that a Project member will respond to the challenge to either cite or remove. And my Wiki-patience (which is thin-to-none) is just courtious enough to give them more than a day. ]. It's what Misplaced Pages is all about. Chill. Go make a featured article or something. Trust me, I've done many and it's very fulfilling. ] <small> (])</small> 00:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:1) There is no difference policy-wise between insertion of unsourced material and re-insertion of unsourced material. | |||
:2) Please withdraw your accuastion of my acting in bad faith. Removal of unsourced material is fully supported by policy. -- ] 00:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Well, lets says we give them until, hmmm, Friday. And if they don't respond you can blank away. That's a good measure of AGF and gives lots of time to work on an FA somewhere. I know you just want to clean out the cruft. Which is a valid thing to want to do. I just think a little respect towards the Queen Project is a polite thing to do (seeing as how they were told by a full community AfD process to merge the song content into the article) Just about every Queen album article is in need of a good flushing. I;d say a good test of whether that project is even active would be to warn them (which has been done) that a page within the project is about to get "Hoovered" if they don't wake up. If you ask me I'd say the Project is a pretty much dormant. But I can still AGF them a little more time. Speaking of projects, do you play guitar? The guitarist project could use another dedicated editor in the ranks. You definitely seem like someone who is determined to make an reliable encyclopedia from this grand experiment. If you're interested drop by the Project page and take a look around. Feel free to contact me for more information. We'd love to have you onboard. Cheers and take care! ] <small> (])</small> 01:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== RFA thankspam == | |||
Sure, I agree about the need to avoid list crufting – everyone's seen what happens when all manner of recent players (the Suicmezes or Matt Heafys) are added just because they sweep every often on songs. But be that as it may, the players that I made it an issue to remove (specifically Morse, Gilbert, Lane and Vai) are most certainly not "known" for their sweeping. Adept or not, they haven't demonstrated any real reason to be known especially for that technique; unlike Batio, MacAlpine, Malmsteen, and many more of the obvious names. Romeo a "niche addition", though? That's rather a silly claim, considering his profound impact on the sweep-tapping technique and the fact that his name regularly gets thrown around in discussion circles whenever sweeping is mentioned. Impellitteri... granted, maybe I was overzealous there. | |||
Thanks for your support in ], which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, ]. | |||
In any case, Morse has even said himself in some old interview (iirc featured on his own site) that he prefers to use alternate picking to play lines that would otherwise be swept, i.e. Tumeni Notes; Gilbert has stated numerous times in interviews and instructional videos that he purposely crafted his skill at string-skipping just to be able to play arpeggios in a way that sounded more pleasing to his ears (whilst making a point of "messing up the timing", to quote his own words, when attempting to sweep); Lane has, at least in one tutorial, said that he too much prefers the feel of alternate picking/legato to sweeping (subsequently showing the viewer a sloppy, half-assed attempt almost on purpose); and as for Vai, I've never read or heard either in print or song that he likes to sweep to the point of being especially known for it - he leans more towards legato and alternate picking in live situations at the very least. ] (]) 20:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
Cheers! | |||
== Rainbow == | |||
]]] 20:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I'm not sure I understand what the message about my edits was about. | |||
== ] == | |||
] (]) 16:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
Why did you change Infobox Musical artist2 to Infobox Musical artist? Infobox Musical artist2 is better since it has the styles field. ] (]) 01:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Lute links == | |||
==Infobox== | |||
::Just noticing. ] which contains the rejected field and is a template not supported by WP:MUSICIAN should be speedy deleted quickly as it has already been mistakenly used on a couple of different articles. Thanks again for following up on your hasty change. Perhaps you can put it forward again another day as an option for the Musician Project to ponder. ] <small> (])</small> 00:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I've corrected the Mariah Carey article. Just to further note on how Allmusic has been rejected as a reliable source for genres; One of the listed entries in the box was adult contemporary. I am guessing this error comes from blindly using Allmusic as a cut/paste for the content of the field. But it demonstrates a key reason why the genre/style split won't work on Wiki. Adult contemporary is a radio format and not a genre or style at all. The same problem pops up often when editors mistakenly add AOR into the genre box. Again a clear radio format and not a genre or style and yet it is used incorrectly in many Allmusic articles. Misplaced Pages clearly defines these terms as radio formats and not genres so adding them into the infobox and using allmusic as a support is, in fact adding contradictory information and also blatantly false information as well. The use of "classic rock" is another example. Its a radio format and not a genre. But it gets mistakenly added as genre sometimes on Misplaced Pages, usually by new editors who don't know Wiki's accepted formats. There are still a few more pages using the test template with the rejected field. If you don't have time to correct them yourself let me know and I will correct them for you. Cheers and take care. ] <small> (])</small> 00:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::First off, ''you'' don't get to decide what works on Misplaced Pages. A discussion among five people does not dictate a binding policy on Misplaced Pages. I was told that the project may not accept the change to "their" infobox. I was not told that it was imperative that I use that particular infobox, that it is binding, or that I can't edit the way I choose. Misplaced Pages isn't a democracy. | |||
::Notice this: , the Misplaced Pages FA crtieria advised that potential featured articles "should comply with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects." That statement has now ], which may imply that it has been recognized that not everyone agrees with the various projects, and they in no way ''dictate'' how people should act. Seriously, don't overestimate your project's "jurisdiction". | |||
::Adult contemporary is a radio format according to what/who? An article that lacks any sort of inline citations and references? AC is a radio format, yes, but it also denotes . If you ask me, it's the articles within Wikiepdia that are "blatantly false" and need to be corrected and updated. Editors like you seem to esteem "consensus" (among, like, 3 people?) over Citing actual sources, which is a major reason why Misplaced Pages is falling to pieces. Cheers and take care! ] ] 01:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Hi there, | |||
:::If you need something to talk about, focus on the fact that your infobox has a field for "voice type", prompting editors to add largely subjective and unsourced info, despite the lengthy discussion and edit wars and overhaul that occurred months (probably a years ago) fighting the influx of unsourced additions regarding voice types and vocal profiles (highest notes, lowest notes, longest notes etc). ] ] 01:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Oh it isn't "my" box. :) . "My" box was the beautiful/simple ''Guitarist Infobox'' (since removed). The Guitarist Project reluctantly voted to delete our infobox in favour of the Musician Project box after they agreed to included the instrument field (which, like all of the others, get abused). We agreed with the format as it was as long as it wasn't chenged without our project being consulted. (again more towards the field we requested) I personally do not like the voice_type field. It believe the history of that one goes to the Opera WikiProject. So, even though I do not line it, I respect that wish to have it there. I also do not like the origin field as it is never used properly. It should be a "band only" field. One fundamental field that is strangely missing is a "birthplace" field. Which means 'birthplace' has to be added as a coded break entry into the birth date field.(which as mentioned earlier, is rarely done properly) I also have had a major dislike of the colour choices right from the get-go. The coloured background field was the main reason the Guitarist Project created its own box in the first place. Oh well, we live with what we live with. The battle ground over the colours in that field was so fierce that I hope it never gets revisited (even though I don't like them) just because the battle caused a lot of wheel spinning and was a road block to productivity where music related articles were concerned. Consensus within the Song and Album projects seems to come so easy. But within the Musician Project... the battle field never seem to go away. But productive debate is good. And, in the end, Misplaced Pages will be better someday. ] <small> (])</small> 02:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::::My comments to you were not meant to extract a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA from you. I was only trying to assist you where you were making an error. I can see you are dedicated to trying to improve Misplaced Pages. But your passion for your opinion and your rejection of a consensus by a very busy WikiProject is not worth being de-sysop'd over. When I receive barnstars or push article to featured status it is not with the intention of making "WIkipedia fall to pieces". I do not see where you think that is what I am doing and am confused by the attack. I would think, as I near 30000 edits, that my dedication here wouldn't be questioned. I have been asked to allow my name to stand for RfA at least 20 times since I started here. And receive at least one email a week asking me to take on the mop. But I have rejected this honour in favour of doing what I do best... simply editing based on policy, community and consensus. I know the responsibility you have taken on by accepting the toolbox. And I sincerely hope that, though proper channels withing the Musician Project that you proposal may be accepted someday. But I just wish that in the future you are a bit more polite with me when I try to help. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:::::See, this is what I'm talking about. You may have intended to be "civil" and "helpful", but I found your message deeply condescending. You state how you "corrected" my edits, call my edit(s) "contradictory", "blatant false" and practically ''ordered'' me to delete it immediately without a second thought, and now state that I may be de-sysop'd, and you expect me to be cheery? I did not attack you. I stated that people's obsession with "consensus", even when that consensus contradicts authoritative sources (a big no-no on Misplaced Pages) is a major problem within Misplaced Pages. I did not intend to say you deliberately ruin the project. ] ] 02:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I can AGF that your remarks about making Misplaced Pages fall to pieces were not directed at me personally. I would also like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatel this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. ] <small> (])</small> 02:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Just to further comment I would like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project several times... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatly this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Even ours :). I see your dedication to the Misplaced Pages Project. Hopefully you see mine a little better too. I do hope we can find a common ground and perhaps we can work together on a Featured Article someday. I've done several. But I haven't pushed an FA is quite a while. I am overdue for one. ] <small> (])</small> 02:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Sorry for the incorrect assumption. I automatically assumed this because you were the first to always contact me whenever there was concern over my actions. To tell the truth, I automatically assumed that you were an Admin. I agree with the breakdown in communication across the various projects, and hopefully that can be fixed soon. Congrats on your FA's. I've only ], a few years ago (can't find the time nor energy to do more), which has gone to hell and back a few times. It may need updating now, but I'm too lazy. Would be willing to work with you, if time permits. ] ] 02:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I have over 5000 pages on my watchlist. I am sure we will cross paths on an article of mutual interest someday. Cheers! ] <small> (])</small> 03:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
==I'm Here To Help== | |||
Can I ask why you edited away useful external links on the lute page? I added the Malcolm Prior link (I am not Prior, incidentally!) as his website is of much use to those wanting information on the lute. | |||
Hey mate, seen a lot of reversions out of you, which is great. But I happen to be a Ba:Lit grad and I was wondering if there were any projects you would like a little bit of wordy work on. Get back to me. | |||
:What is your edit interest. Lots of guitarist stubs need expansion. ] <small> (])</small> 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::I'm a drummer myself, but I like practicing my critical writing so anything is fine.] (]) 02:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Apology == | |||
Kind regards, | |||
I accidentally left you a vandalism warning after failing to pay attention to the revert order. ] (]) 16:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Henri <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:08, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I have deleted and removed the Huggle warning so you don't get accidentally blocked. ]] 16:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I quoted the policy in my edit summary. See ] and ]. ] <small> (])</small> 13:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for the message, I'm a bassist/guitarist/drummer (spit! :P), I'll check the project out. ] (]) 18:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
That is insufficient reason. The link provided is of great use to those interested in the instrument, as it shows the workshop of a craftsman and innumerable other related links. | |||
:Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions. ] <small> (])</small> 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Hi there == | |||
You are making Misplaced Pages worse by your policies of unnecessary exclusion. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Really nice to get your welcome note. Hope you can check out some articles I'm working on and give feedback. What can I do to help? ] (]) 13:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Sounds good. I will look at your articles. Let me know if you have any questions. ] <small> (])</small> 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== John Frusciante == | |||
But they are not. The guidelines allow for relevant links as we see on most pages. I think your interpretation of the guidelines is corrupt - please re-read them and re-evaluate. | |||
You must be mistaken. I don't know who Spike Wilbury is, but it was Grim-Gym and I who brought John Frusciante to Featured Status. Not this "Spike Wilbury". I am actually rather offended. It was Grim-Gym and I alone. Please get your facts straight. Second of all, I know every single thing about Frusciante. Everything. Therefore, I can tell you better than anyone else, that he's obviously a notable guitar player. The tabs in the infobox are not mandatory and adding "guitar" would not help anyone realize he's a guitarist. ] <sup>]</sup>] 03:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
It is important that an encyclopedia has a style guide and absence of falsity; however it should, by its very purpose, include all relevant material. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I'm sorry for the above comment. Haha. I read your first reply without finishing. It got me a little miffed. My apologies. Anyway, I take photographs for magazines sometimes as a side job and someone I met from a photo shoot was selling their original Strat so I bought it from them. I got the Jag in a somewhat similar situation. That's really cool that you also have a 62 Strat. I love vintage guitars. The sound that comes from them just reeks of the wisdom things are only granted with the passing of time. ] <sup>]</sup>] 03:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Also note that I am not the only one to remove the link from the project. Your first attempt was removed by a different user. So this is not just my interpretation. see ]. ] <small> (])</small> 13:45, 1 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Actually, all the fields should be filled in where possible. Hopefully not over-killed. Would you mind if it was put to a discussion on the talk page. It was granted FA status with the field filled ion so it shouldn't be too offensive to anyone. It should be a ] decision and not just one/two people calling the rules. That's a ] vio. I have owned several elderly Jags along the way. I don't have any in the boneyard right now though. I am currently on a quest for the perfect Tele. I already own 3. The oldest, a 68, is not bad but there is something missing that I just can't nail on it. The other 2 are both around the same vintage. One of them is heavily modified and is one of my main studio guitars. But I use it for mellow Jazz tones (the mods) and it does not snap and twang like a Tele should. The other 2 come close. But not quite. I will keep looking. ] <small> (])</small> 04:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== WP:GUITAR invitation == | |||
Truth is not measured by votes but by reason. | |||
Yeah, I'll join. Guitar is one of my main hobbies after all. | |||
But anyway, the previous user rightly removed it from a non-link section. He did not remove it from the link section, links all of which you swept away with little thought. | |||
Thanks! | |||
You are in the wrong here. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:No I'm not never wrong where Wiki is concerned. ] <small> (])</small> 19:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
] | ]| ] 22:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
How childish! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 15:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== British English on Led Zeppelin == | |||
==]== | |||
These edit wars over the use of singular or plural verbs in the ] article are not getting us to the point, which is producing a stellar article about a very important group. I have ] in a measured tone with an attempt to explain the situation to my American compatriots. However, I feel some further action is necessary. My suggestion is to place a disclaimer at the top of the page explaining the use of British English. It may even warrant addition to the Led Zeppelin talk page template, perhaps a separate div box with a Union Jack and some bold text. The text might actually use the comment "Please do not change this to "were", it will be reverted back quickly. Misplaced Pages is an American Website, so none of that English Proper Garbage on here." made by our Texan friend ] against him. For example, <em>"en.wikipedia.org is the English Language version of Misplaced Pages. It is not an American website"</em>, etc. The wording can be discussed and agreed to over on the project page. | |||
Hi Anger22, there is a user on the disccusion page of this article who will not accept that information in this article is unsourced. he's telling me that if I want verification of this unsourced info I have to do a LexisNexi search. When you got a minute will you please have a look. Cheers, ] (]) 00:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
I would like to know more about this situation in general. I have looked around a little but haven't found anything other than the statement on the ] page. If you know of any official stance regarding which form of English is to be used in which articles, please explain it or point me to it. This is unquestionably a tough issue to deal with - AI hasn't advanced enough to allow for robots that routinely repair misplaced subject-verb agreements in these cases. ] (]) 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Yo, about the Killing Is My Business... and Business Is Good! article == | |||
== Greetings == | |||
I think that Dave Mustaine should be listed in the credits next to Lee Hazlewood for These Boots. It's true that she originally made that song, but Dave Mustaine rewrote some of the lyrics, and he obviously wrote the guitar leads and stuff to go along with it. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 10:31, 5 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
You've been a busy lad, haven't you? What's the news? --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 17:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
ok i did not vandalize the page | |||
:Reply on your page. ] <small> (])</small> 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
when i was editing it i made a mistake and it messed up the html in the code <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:46, 7 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==] image== | |||
Hey, I'm flattered that you like the image of Rich that I contributed, but I think it is worth it to drop the old image into the spot currently occupied by the dupe of the Newport photo. Cheers, ] (]) 02:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== AC/DC album == | |||
Hey there, I don't know if you've already noticed, but the article on the new AC/DC album is up for deletion. I'm against the deletion - I don't know if you are or not, but if you're against, have your say here ]. Cheers, ] (]) 11:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
But no one ever said that Saint Anger sounded like Slayer. St. Anger was just very poorly produced, mixed, and written. I think if it was more refined, it has the outlines of what could be considered speed metal. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 01:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Rock music WikiProject == | |||
I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed ]. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Misplaced Pages that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Misplaced Pages articles. Thanks! --] (]) 09:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Talk instead of trying to block me okay == | |||
Those two projects didn't look active for me okay, sorry, i thought i was doing the best for the project okay sorry, wont happen again. --] (]) 21:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I wasn't trying to block you. But your actions were not those of a person who honours the community. They were the actions of an asshole. Sorry to be blunt. But re-directing those two project was one of the most ignorant moves I've seen on here in awhile. I was a full-time session musician and touring sidesman from 1968 to 1986. Mostly in the Rock genre. I switched careers in 1986 but still do movie/TV/commercial session part-time. I would love to take part in the Rock Project as my years of experience and my long commitment to Misplaced Pages could help the project move forward. But not if its mandate is to ignore/usurp other established projects. ] <small> (])</small> 02:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
Your probably right but. Why i did it was to give the project a better infrastructure like i did on the QotSA taskforce. But its not that importent anyway. Oh and good you became a member of the wikiproject. --] (]) 09:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== The Sweet == | |||
Quit taking metal out or ill report your for vandalism] (]) 13:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Your re-direct is being questioned == | |||
Thanks for doing it BTW. It was overdue. ] (]) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Gibson Les Paul Studio == | |||
Hey, I just wanted to drop you a line letting you know that I did some cleanup to ] and managed to get it promoted from "stub" to "c class". I have kind of found my calling as a copyeditor on wikipedia and would be happy to copyedit some more Guitar-equipment related articles if you would be kind enough to point me towards a few in need. Thanks. <span style="color:#000099;">'''Washburn'''</span><span style="color:silver;">'''''mav'''''</span> (''']''') 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:It's probably higher than a C class, I figured it was *minimum* C, so re-class as necessary. –<span style="font-family:Verdana;">] (])</span> 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Meshuggah == | |||
Good day! Can you please tell me where does ] say that sources such as are not reliable?--] <big>]</big> 02:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Key word = blog. Linking to an blog written by a nobody does not constitute a reliable source. It's an ]. ] <small> (])</small> 03:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Ok, but ] says also "''Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications.''" That material on MetalKult is produced by "a senior editor at ''Guitar World'' magazine. His writing has also appeared in the pages of ''Revolver'', ''Alternative Press'', ''Bass Guitar'', ''CMJ Monthly'', as well as on ''PaperThinWalls.com''" . Except for that, the amount and the momentousness of the information that has been take from the website is absolutely minimal - it is only two terms: ''technical metal'' and ''death-tech'' which are both mentioned once in the Meshuggah article - in a list of more than 10 genres. Nothing more. Therefore I think that the source is acceptable. --] <big>]</big> 10:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
Just finished copyediting ].Feel free to give feedback on my edits. I did some heavy reorganization and added tables to awards and the discography. I also did quite a bit of grammar/ redundancy corrections. ](''']''') 18:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I think this article should be considered for a much higher rank as well. I don't want to promote it myself due to COI but I think it could be B class or higher at this point. ](''']''') 18:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Lonnie Mack == | |||
Thanks for all your efforts and advice. I really appreciate them. Take care. ] (]) 22:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== RE: Clapton == | |||
"''It was rude of me to speak about the guitarist project and not ask if you are a guitar player yourself''" | |||
:Not rude in the least. I appreciate both of your messages. No, I am not a guitarist, just a regular guy who loves what Clapton can do with one. ] (]) 01:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Awards Box Inclusion - Music == | |||
Can you provide a reason for resisting the inclusion of awards in the Music Box? Is there a compelling reason why it should be singled out when so many other boxes have it? Examples provided on the talk page. --] (]) 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Which awards are notable enough for inclusion? Fanzine polls? Magazine "hall of fame" inclusions. The infobox is already over-populated with fields that 99% of Misplaced Pages editors have no idea how to populate correctly. Adding another will just mean more janitorial work. It's a discussion that's been beaten to death already many times over. ] <small> (])</small> 03:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] Copyedit == | |||
{{done}} | |||
:Should definitely be considered for GA and after some reference adding, FA. ](''']''') 23:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Second Opinion == | |||
Hey Anger, would you mind offering a second opinion on the Eric Clapton discussion ? Thanks. ](''']''') 05:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Adrenalize revert == | |||
Hey there. Could you point me towards the relevant rules/guidelines that led you to revert my editing the forms of participation in ]? Thanks. —] (]) 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Relevant links on how to avoid lowering Misplaced Pages into a cheap, poorly written project can be found at ]. The album cleanup falls under several policies and guidelines, beside avoiding ]. ], ] specifically ], ] etc. Aim for "encyclopedia" is the best motto. Not some poorly written amateur fansite. Too many Misplaced Pages music articles are already that way. The album project guidelines for correct formatting do not include the words "match the source album wording" anywhere. The guideline there is; clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article. Hope that helps. ] <small> (])</small> 23:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the reply. | |||
::– From ]: "It is true that things labeled fancruft are often deleted from Misplaced Pages. This is primarily due to the fact that things labeled as fancruft are often...non-neutral and contain original research, the latter two of which are valid reasons for deletion." I don't see how "the voice" and "skins" meet either criterion, seeing as how they're taken straight from the booklet. Changing them to what we think they mean would be original research, however. Granted, it's not really a leap to change them to "vocals" and "drums"...that's why they were wikilinked that way. | |||
::– I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for in ] and ]. Could you be more specific? | |||
::– ] relates to the prose, and doesn't apply here. | |||
::– ] seems to apply to the prose, as well. (We wouldn't change a song title that contains a neologism.) It's not a problem here because the info has a reference. If anything, ] is only arguing against my piped links. | |||
::– ] doesn't include the words "simplify forms of participation to the most common terms", either. Nor does it say "clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article", for that matter. | |||
::– Check ] for an example of a featured article with credits that report some odd terms the artist saw fit to print. —] (]) 00:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Starcaster== | |||
OK, I see your point. We'll just have to wait until we get a free image for an original. ] 00:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Just a thought - could you look at some of the free images of guitarists known to play the Starcaster (i.e. ]) in case there's a decent free image of one there? ] 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks! ] 00:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
== My Edit == | |||
On August 8 2008 you removed the external link to my Charvel site, www.charvels.com. | |||
Any particular reason? | |||
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== RE: Userpage and stuff == | |||
Hey there dude! Yeah, I'd be happy to try out something on your userpage. It'd probably end up looking similar to mine because I've forgotten almost everything I learned before so would just have to mash my design together and hope it looks ok here. Or I could hunt down something new and exciting. But whatever the means, I could probably help you out, provided, that is, I have enough time... last year of highschool is a biznatch. Hope you're doing well old friend, ] ] 01:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] FAR opened == | |||
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== Hey!! == | |||
Hey!! What sights are ya seeing? This better be a metalhead pilgrimage. {{mono|1=:P}} Sorry about not getting to your userpage, by the way, pretty busy final year of high school... I'll work on it though! {{mono|:)}} Hope all is well, ] ] 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Nice! I hope that quest goes well, and you better send me a picture. I'm saving up for beauty. ] ] 02:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Oh, and not that I'll be able to get this any time soon (it costs $3000 Canadian dollars), but Gray black, too. ] ] 02:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Re:Task force == | |||
That would probably be a good idea. I'm not sure how to do it though. ] ] 17:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Remove 'Notable player' list from Hybrid Picking article? == | |||
Thanks for all your excellent guitar-related work. I've been watching ], and I propose removal of the 'Notable' list from that article and maybe moving it to a separate article. See other guitar-related 'Notable' lists like ] for (equally troublesome) examples. The list at Hybrid Picking is a magnet for repetitive fan-posts (Zakk Wylde, for example), has taken on a life of its own and is about to overshadow the main article, which is about the hybrid picking technique rather than the players. We can certainly expand the article to include notable proponents in context. Full disclosure: I added James Burton and Clarence White to the list a while back. Mea culpa. See related discussion at ], and that list was indeed deleted for the same reasons. Thanks again and best regards, ] (]) 16:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I support removing POV opinion lists from all articles like this one. The guitarist project has actually discussed this before. Several "List of" articles wre created from those talks. ] <small> (])</small> 17:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
::Thanks for the feedback, I found the old thread on Guitarist project, and have posted a proposal on the ] ]. Regards, ] (]) 07:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Alan Banks Deletion == | |||
Hello. I would like to protest the Alan Banks deletion as he meets the standards listed below: | |||
# It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable. | |||
Multiple interviews and write-ups in Classical Guitar Magazine. Classical Guitar Magazine is the central information source for news in the Classical Guitar genre. It is published and read internationally. | |||
# Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. | |||
He has made many radio and TV appearances both in Australia and overseas including live broadcasts and recordings with ABC FM and recordings for BBC Radio 3, the UK’s premiere classical music station. His 2003 recording of Peter Scullthorpe’s “Nourlangie”, with the Ulster Orchestra, is repeatedly showcased on BBC radio 3. Scullthorpe is one of the most esteemed composers in Australia. | |||
Ireland’s Frank Lyons and Australian Richard Charlton have written new works for Alan Banks. Lastly, he is a well known guitarist within the classical scene. That must count for something. Thanks. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 23:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
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== Invitation == | |||
I took a stab at composing an invitation template based on one of your messages you left for someone last year. It can be added by typing: <code><nowiki>{{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guitarists/Outreach/Invitation|~~~~}}</nowiki></code>. Feel free to edit. As I'm looking through all of our project pages, a lot of updating and editing is needed. I'd like to clean out some old stuff we never used anyway (what is the "Buckethead task force"?) and update some things to modern wikicode. --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 03:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Excellent, thanks. Now if I catch anyone " pickin' " on guitarist articles I can invite them to join. Cheers and have a nice day. ] <small> (])</small> 22:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Go Johnny Go == | |||
I ordered a few books about Chuck Berry. I want to see if I can make it a Featured Article. I'd like to see if we can really work on getting the article of influential guitarists up to a respectable standard. --] <b style="color:#000000;">♫</b> ] 03:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC) | |||
: Great, thanks for the tip on the extra materials. I have two books so far, ''Brown Eyed Handsome Man'' by Bruce Pegg and ''Chuck Berry: The Autobiography''. He apparently wrote this book himself without the use of a ghostwriter, which is quite some accomplishment. We of course have to be very selective about using material from the autobiography. I agree that the main focus should be on his music, with a much smaller personal life section. --] (]) 05:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: Okay, I'll take a look at the Page article. As long as WP exists, I suppose we will have this kind of thing happening. I've come to believe that guitarist articles are among the most contentious articles out there, because people feel so deeply about their musical heroes. It's nothing compared to editing religious or nationalistic articles, I suppose! I just created a stub on ]. I couldn't believe we didn't have an article on such a long-time and important session player and composer. We had an amusing exchange when I emailed asking for a photo, where he explained how the popular media doesn't care about session musicians. How right he is. Anyway, thanks for the help on Berry. Some of these old rock and blues players get neglected here. I'm going to take a trip to the library to see if they can dig up any old magazine and news articles. --] (]) 03:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
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John Norum
You've started a war editing with no reason. John is the co-founder AND the current Europe axeman, so there's no need to edit this information. If you want to edit that page adding or modifying important informations you're free to do it, but you've also to respect others' contributions, expecially if they are checked and correct. Have a good wikitime. --MusicIsMyLove 07:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not a teenager since a LOT of years, and your approach to this page written almost entirely by me was and still is really impolite. Next time, try to explain your editing avoiding offensive tones, and keeping the respect for the ones that worked hard to write a good and useful article. I can easily change the word axeman, but you'd have to keep in mind that AXEMAN is the common way to call a guitarist. --MusicIsMyLove 10:52, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talk • contribs)
- English is not my first language, but I have the same right to write an article in English without asking the permission to do it. If I'm wronging, please update me. If you want to edit it because of grammar mistakes, do it, EXPLAINING the editing and keeping a polite mode. Thanks.--MusicIsMyLove 11:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- I totally agree with you when you state that the most important thing here is to have good articles, correctly written and respectful of the Wiki rules. And it's my aim to do my best with my contributions. It's the way you persist considering it "horribly written", "childish", "extremely poor" and so on that's offensive for the people that work at it since years. This article is here since years, a lot of people has given their contributions but you're the one and the only that has expressed a personal opinion in such bad terms. None is a teacher here, and no one could personally state if an article is good or bad, Wiki is a peer to peer community. So, each opinion will be taken in the right consideration, if expressed respectfully.--MusicIsMyLove 12:57, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talk • contribs)
Got your message. Will gladly help. The article had more issues than just that poorly written lead. All the text is a copyvio cut/paste from an external website. I will alert an admin friend as to what has happened and see what he thinks should be done. Libs (talk) 13:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Update. It's a copy/paste WP:COI issue. Most/all of the text will have to be removed. If you need resources to try and build the article back up I am a librarian and can likely find some pro publications in our database that I can link to you for some decent content. have a nice day! Libs (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Someone here tried to delete this article writing that it was a copy/past of the content of another website. Well, I've written most of the parts of this article, and I've taken some of the content from a website dedicated to John Norum. I'm the administrator of that website, I have no problem in giving the authorization to use that content. Since I've checked every single infos before publish them, and I've written just facts and not personal opinions, please let me know in which way it could be seen as a conflict of interests. Anyway, someone else has re-edited. Before starting a war, let's talk!--MusicIsMyLove 16:10, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talk • contribs)
That's still a WP:COI issue and I can't help with that. The text from your website can't be added. And you can't edit the page based on anything to do with your personal website since that becomes a conflict of interest. An editor has offered an opportunity to create a referenced article using valid citations. Fansites do not meet WP:RS and can't be used as refs. We will have to rebuild from scratch using something else. Your website is fine for your enjoyment. But it can't be used for Misplaced Pages. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- It seems that's really hard for you to be a bit more polite, isn't it? You're tremendously OFFENSIVE, and you aren't able to understand that write things like "it's a poor quality article from a poor quality website" are offensive words. Who are you to judge the quality of a website? My website wasn't born "for my enjoyment" but to give CORRECT and more infos about John Norum, since at that time it was really hard to find something about him on the net. And since I'm a hard music lover and a huge Norum's admirer, I've checked every single info. I still don't understand the reason why a correct source of information as that article was (since 2 years) has been deleted and not simply edited.
- I still don't think that this attitude is correct and respectful of others' contributors work. MusicIsMyLove 21:41, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
I just call it like I see it. Sorry if you don't like a blunt opinion. I don't cow-tow around anything on Misplaced Pages. I just do what needs to be done and let the Barnstars speak for themselves. The John Norum article will be improved. But it will be improved following all Misplaced Pages polices and editing rules. That's the only way I know how to do it and do it properly. Read WP:CITE, WP:V and WP:RS. Also read WP:CON. These are the foundations Wiki was built on. The offer for citations came from a librarian who has access to material that will meet Misplaced Pages's WP:RS policy. It was a generous offer which I will take him up on when I have more time to apply to it. For now all I have time for is vandal hunting.(which is a non-stop need on Misplaced Pages). Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 21:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- You've given just your opinion. It's not my aim to start a fight, I have a life and tons of things in my life that need my attention. That's a hobby for me, not a MISSION as it seems that's for you. You've stated that the article will be improuved. Well, I hope so. And I hope that it will be re-edited in the best English ever and following all the English Wiki's rules. I'll be there to check every single info that will be written, and I'll edit all the ones that won't be correct. Work well! MusicIsMyLove 22:13, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talk • contribs)
Your assistance will be appreciated. But mind Misplaced Pages's WP:OWN policy. Your "correct" must mean correct and not just POV. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. But poorly written articles can be torn down in a second. Good articles take time and patience. And citations from reliable sources. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll do my best to be helpful. "Correct" in this case meant to have checked every single info. In which way? Asking to people closely related to Mr Norum, to Mr Norum himself, checking the official website and the official bulletins on the media. Etc etc etc. Only one official biography of Mr Norum was published, it's written in Swedish language and it was in the booklet of the Swedish special edition of "Face the Truth" album. I have it and I've translated it for my site and for Wiki. No other official reliable sources. Just tons of uncorrect infos on the music related sites. So... once again, work well! Take care. MusicIsMyLove 22:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MusicIsMyLove (talk • contribs)
Wikiproject: Guitarists
Thanks for the welcome anger. Quick question for you, what is a typical "reliable" source for information regarding guitars? Manufacturers websites? Thanks Washburnmav (talk) 22:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Black Ice
I'm just glad to see I'm not the only person reverting this stuff. Cheers. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:31, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly - there's a pretty good chance that will be the right title for the album, but I want to see some decent source to prove it first. Then I'll be right there reverting myself, I guess! Anyway, I'm doing okay somehow, despite the best efforts of some people in life! Hope you're doing well too :) Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Cheers for this, i tend to always check the history to see that i get all the vandalism but obviously i didn't do it well this time! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- No prob. For me, since I edit so many music articles I just compare the current version to the last time I edited it myself and look for the fluff. Speaking of which, that article is still loaded with it and could use some extra care if you have the time. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The Nobs
The article was merged with less than 50 minutes of discussion by User:Xymmax and only one person nominating. There was no discussion of it on the article talkpage. That IMO is poor. MegX (talk) 03:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please inform me of any other Zeppelin related AfD nominations you come across. I've kept on notify almost all of them, but not some of the peripheral ones. MegX (talk) 04:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
is/are
hiya.
regarding the gnr article, I know that an American band should use American English (seems fair to me) however I wasn't changing the grammar based on American/British English, I was changing it based on the rules for collective nouns, in both British and American English, we should use "are" when refering to a band name that uses plurals. check out the link on the gnr talk page if you want more info. thanks Sennen goroshi (talk) 17:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- And after I left my post I found other similar examples of are being used for band names using plurals. Looks OK to me. By text book rules, Canadians should use British English. But due to our close proximity to the US we tend to alter our day-to-day speech/text to mimic those of our neighbour, rather than that of our British heritage. And, having finished my own education 30 years ago, I tend to forget the textbooks. Thanks for the follow up. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 17:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a big problem - I always think people should use the grammar related to the subject in question - but in this case the grammar is the same for both American and British English... I get confused with both of them, I am British, I work abroad and use American English on a daily basis. Sennen goroshi (talk) 18:16, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'd appreciate it if you would have not left me with a vandalism warning on my talk page, and instead, would have explained the situation to me on my talk page as you would have done to a regular contributor. Thank you. 75.179.6.2 (talk) 15:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- It wasn't a vandalism warning it was a article 'testing' reminder for ignoring WP:ENGVAR. If you make a wrong edit your are obligated to correct your own mistake. You left the article in an incorrect "Yankee" grammar state rather than the proper British grammar wording. Just don't do it again. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 20:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'd appreciate it if you would have not left me with a vandalism warning on my talk page, and instead, would have explained the situation to me on my talk page as you would have done to a regular contributor. Thank you. 75.179.6.2 (talk) 15:53, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Led Zeppelin links
Uhm, from a LZ forum I found an interesting site about Led Zeppelin discographies: . I think it's a huge list of records / cds that it's not available anywhere else. I see that it was removed but billboard (is it a discography?!?) and Discogs (this was supposed to be interesting but now is only a waste of time) are still there. Will you let me understand better what's ok or helpful or important or interesting for you? Thanks Artemio
- Read WP:EL. Your link has been discussed by other editors and consensus is not to include it. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, I didn't understand why as well, but if this are the rules I'll understand wikipedia a little bit better. Not what is interesting but what you decide? I don't care about that site but as a Led Zeppelin addict I think is unique, isn't it? Thanks for your useless reply. Artemio
You don't care about your own personal website that you have been trying to spam Misplaced Pages with for over a year? Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 10:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- you're probably referring to someone else, I guess. Artemio —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.8.209.199 (talk) 13:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Good grief.
DVdm (talk) 21:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
- Oops - forgot the body of the message - bad copy/paste job - Sorry :-)
- But never mind, by now it's already covered om my talk page. Thanks & cheers, DVdm (talk) 10:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
No problem
You're welcome, and my apologies. I'll explain on the talk page in a bit. Orane (talk) 04:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Re:Need your assistance
Apologies, I had just gone offline when the message was left (contrary to my 'this user is online' thing...) but Journalist seems to have reverted him/herself, so you should be free to discuss the issue on the talk page now. J Milburn (talk) 11:09, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
The Game
The Queen project does not have the right to over-ride wikipeida's core policies of verifiability and the related guideline of no original research. Please revert yourself to the version that most closely complies with these policies. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- I replied on the article talk page and will wait to here from that Projects active members as to what should be done. It's simple respect. I 'have the com' on a few Wiki projects. And if someone steps in and goes against any of those Project mandates that person gets blocked for the disturbance. I am not a meber of the Queen Project. But I will respect them enough to see what they say on the matter. Misplaced Pages is a community. Not an indiviual effort. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- If you respect Wikipeida's consensus process, you will agree that the community as a whole supports verifiablity and its application to all articles and projects. However the Queen project decides is the best way to organize single and album discussions, they are not allowed to violate the ocmmunity's consensus that no origial research is allowed and all analysis must be sourced. I ask you again to return the article to a version that does not so blatantly violate these core ideals of Misplaced Pages.-- The Red Pen of Doom 04:24, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- And your claim that the Queen Project decided to merge all the individual song articles to the album is dated as well. Most of the songs have their own individual mostly unsourced articles. -- The Red Pen of Doom 04:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Only the single were given reprieve during their AfD process. Non-singles were merged.
Keeping cruft is not a habit. I am a staunch Wiki-deletionist and I try to AfD or speedy delete massive volumes of tripe on Misplaced Pages on a daily basis. But I support a community decision. Wiki is the only place where consensus can outweigh verifiablity. And a Wiki Project took it upon itself to nominate dozens of articles covered under its own mandate. And the result of the AfD procedure, which was a full community choice, was to merge the content into the main album articles. This was done for every album from the band not just the one you have dispute with. Trust me, of English Misplaced Pages's 2.5 million articles I would gladly delete 2 million of them if I had the power. But the project is built on community so the community always wins. Jimbo's first rule of editing is to ignore all the rules. But never at the cost of the community, or its consensus as to how it is built. All in due time. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Until the Misplaced Pages community consensus decides that WP:V is not a policy, the policy over-rides any individual project's decision to do otherwise. The policy is clearly written
"Editors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." It does not say "must be tagged" and allowed to sit for six months. Unsourced material "may be removed." -- The Red Pen of Doom 05:04, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please revert yourself on this edit Neither you nor the Queen Project have the authroity to ignore Misplaced Pages policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I did spot the 2 offending little bits in the lead. Apologies for not picking that off before. As for the merged content you must show some patience to the Project covering these pages. One day isn't patience. Misplaced Pages wasn't built in a day. If no active members have been online to see the alert placed on their Project then we should repect them and wait. The tag which I placed to identify your concern with the page draws attention from the entire Misplaced Pages community not just the Queen project. {Original research} tags are like magnets for Wiki-cleanliness-klans. Patience and restraint. Its not too hard. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Can you point out when the merge occured? I have looked back as far as November and the only significant additions to the article are a few sentances of clearly unsourced opinion.
- And again, the Queen project does not have the authority to put Misplaced Pages policies "on hold" for an additional six months until they decide to provide sources. Policy says the unsourced material should come out. At any time in the future, editors from the project are still free to add sourced analysis to the article. -- The Red Pen of Doom 03:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Again I will ask you to revert your insertion of unsourced material and analysis into the article. While patience is a virtue, it is not a policy while verfifiability is policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Ah, but I didn't insert unsourced material. I simply replaced material blanked in bad faith of WP:AGF. Your 1 WP:V is trumped by WP:AGF, WP:POINT, WP:EQ etc. As I have said. I am a deletionist. I hate OR and uncited content. But I respect Misplaced Pages Project mandates. And I respect "the process". Had I been a part of the AfD's which resulted in the merged content I would've voted to delete it. But I ws not a part of that process and the process said merge. My AGF is that a Project member will respond to the challenge to either cite or remove. And my Wiki-patience (which is thin-to-none) is just courtious enough to give them more than a day. Patience young grasshopper.... patience. It's what Misplaced Pages is all about. Chill. Go make a featured article or something. Trust me, I've done many and it's very fulfilling. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- 1) There is no difference policy-wise between insertion of unsourced material and re-insertion of unsourced material.
- 2) Please withdraw your accuastion of my acting in bad faith. Removal of unsourced material is fully supported by policy. -- The Red Pen of Doom 00:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Well, lets says we give them until, hmmm, Friday. And if they don't respond you can blank away. That's a good measure of AGF and gives lots of time to work on an FA somewhere. I know you just want to clean out the cruft. Which is a valid thing to want to do. I just think a little respect towards the Queen Project is a polite thing to do (seeing as how they were told by a full community AfD process to merge the song content into the article) Just about every Queen album article is in need of a good flushing. I;d say a good test of whether that project is even active would be to warn them (which has been done) that a page within the project is about to get "Hoovered" if they don't wake up. If you ask me I'd say the Project is a pretty much dormant. But I can still AGF them a little more time. Speaking of projects, do you play guitar? The guitarist project could use another dedicated editor in the ranks. You definitely seem like someone who is determined to make an reliable encyclopedia from this grand experiment. If you're interested drop by the Project page and take a look around. Feel free to contact me for more information. We'd love to have you onboard. Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 01:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
RFA thankspam
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.
Cheers!
J.delanoyadds 20:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Buckcherry
Why did you change Infobox Musical artist2 to Infobox Musical artist? Infobox Musical artist2 is better since it has the styles field. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 01:14, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Infobox
- Just noticing. Template:Infobox Musical artist2 which contains the rejected field and is a template not supported by WP:MUSICIAN should be speedy deleted quickly as it has already been mistakenly used on a couple of different articles. Thanks again for following up on your hasty change. Perhaps you can put it forward again another day as an option for the Musician Project to ponder. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:34, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I've corrected the Mariah Carey article. Just to further note on how Allmusic has been rejected as a reliable source for genres; One of the listed entries in the box was adult contemporary. I am guessing this error comes from blindly using Allmusic as a cut/paste for the content of the field. But it demonstrates a key reason why the genre/style split won't work on Wiki. Adult contemporary is a radio format and not a genre or style at all. The same problem pops up often when editors mistakenly add AOR into the genre box. Again a clear radio format and not a genre or style and yet it is used incorrectly in many Allmusic articles. Misplaced Pages clearly defines these terms as radio formats and not genres so adding them into the infobox and using allmusic as a support is, in fact adding contradictory information and also blatantly false information as well. The use of "classic rock" is another example. Its a radio format and not a genre. But it gets mistakenly added as genre sometimes on Misplaced Pages, usually by new editors who don't know Wiki's accepted formats. There are still a few more pages using the test template with the rejected field. If you don't have time to correct them yourself let me know and I will correct them for you. Cheers and take care. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 00:57, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- First off, you don't get to decide what works on Misplaced Pages. A discussion among five people does not dictate a binding policy on Misplaced Pages. I was told that the project may not accept the change to "their" infobox. I was not told that it was imperative that I use that particular infobox, that it is binding, or that I can't edit the way I choose. Misplaced Pages isn't a democracy.
- Notice this: A short while ago, the Misplaced Pages FA crtieria advised that potential featured articles "should comply with the standards set out in the style manual and relevant WikiProjects." That statement has now been removed, which may imply that it has been recognized that not everyone agrees with the various projects, and they in no way dictate how people should act. Seriously, don't overestimate your project's "jurisdiction".
- Adult contemporary is a radio format according to what/who? An article that lacks any sort of inline citations and references? AC is a radio format, yes, but it also denotes the style of music played on said radio. If you ask me, it's the articles within Wikiepdia that are "blatantly false" and need to be corrected and updated. Editors like you seem to esteem "consensus" (among, like, 3 people?) over Citing actual sources, which is a major reason why Misplaced Pages is falling to pieces. Cheers and take care! Orane (talk) 01:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- If you need something to talk about, focus on the fact that your infobox has a field for "voice type", prompting editors to add largely subjective and unsourced info, despite the lengthy discussion and edit wars and overhaul that occurred months (probably a years ago) fighting the influx of unsourced additions regarding voice types and vocal profiles (highest notes, lowest notes, longest notes etc). Orane (talk) 01:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Adult contemporary is a radio format according to what/who? An article that lacks any sort of inline citations and references? AC is a radio format, yes, but it also denotes the style of music played on said radio. If you ask me, it's the articles within Wikiepdia that are "blatantly false" and need to be corrected and updated. Editors like you seem to esteem "consensus" (among, like, 3 people?) over Citing actual sources, which is a major reason why Misplaced Pages is falling to pieces. Cheers and take care! Orane (talk) 01:42, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh it isn't "my" box. :) . "My" box was the beautiful/simple Guitarist Infobox (since removed). The Guitarist Project reluctantly voted to delete our infobox in favour of the Musician Project box after they agreed to included the instrument field (which, like all of the others, get abused). We agreed with the format as it was as long as it wasn't chenged without our project being consulted. (again more towards the field we requested) I personally do not like the voice_type field. It believe the history of that one goes to the Opera WikiProject. So, even though I do not line it, I respect that wish to have it there. I also do not like the origin field as it is never used properly. It should be a "band only" field. One fundamental field that is strangely missing is a "birthplace" field. Which means 'birthplace' has to be added as a coded break entry into the birth date field.(which as mentioned earlier, is rarely done properly) I also have had a major dislike of the colour choices right from the get-go. The coloured background field was the main reason the Guitarist Project created its own box in the first place. Oh well, we live with what we live with. The battle ground over the colours in that field was so fierce that I hope it never gets revisited (even though I don't like them) just because the battle caused a lot of wheel spinning and was a road block to productivity where music related articles were concerned. Consensus within the Song and Album projects seems to come so easy. But within the Musician Project... the battle field never seem to go away. But productive debate is good. And, in the end, Misplaced Pages will be better someday. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:17, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- My comments to you were not meant to extract a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA from you. I was only trying to assist you where you were making an error. I can see you are dedicated to trying to improve Misplaced Pages. But your passion for your opinion and your rejection of a consensus by a very busy WikiProject is not worth being de-sysop'd over. When I receive barnstars or push article to featured status it is not with the intention of making "WIkipedia fall to pieces". I do not see where you think that is what I am doing and am confused by the attack. I would think, as I near 30000 edits, that my dedication here wouldn't be questioned. I have been asked to allow my name to stand for RfA at least 20 times since I started here. And receive at least one email a week asking me to take on the mop. But I have rejected this honour in favour of doing what I do best... simply editing based on policy, community and consensus. I know the responsibility you have taken on by accepting the toolbox. And I sincerely hope that, though proper channels withing the Musician Project that you proposal may be accepted someday. But I just wish that in the future you are a bit more polite with me when I try to help. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- See, this is what I'm talking about. You may have intended to be "civil" and "helpful", but I found your message deeply condescending. You state how you "corrected" my edits, call my edit(s) "contradictory", "blatant false" and practically ordered me to delete it immediately without a second thought, and now state that I may be de-sysop'd, and you expect me to be cheery? I did not attack you. I stated that people's obsession with "consensus", even when that consensus contradicts authoritative sources (a big no-no on Misplaced Pages) is a major problem within Misplaced Pages. I did not intend to say you deliberately ruin the project. Orane (talk) 02:20, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- My comments to you were not meant to extract a violation of WP:CIVIL or WP:NPA from you. I was only trying to assist you where you were making an error. I can see you are dedicated to trying to improve Misplaced Pages. But your passion for your opinion and your rejection of a consensus by a very busy WikiProject is not worth being de-sysop'd over. When I receive barnstars or push article to featured status it is not with the intention of making "WIkipedia fall to pieces". I do not see where you think that is what I am doing and am confused by the attack. I would think, as I near 30000 edits, that my dedication here wouldn't be questioned. I have been asked to allow my name to stand for RfA at least 20 times since I started here. And receive at least one email a week asking me to take on the mop. But I have rejected this honour in favour of doing what I do best... simply editing based on policy, community and consensus. I know the responsibility you have taken on by accepting the toolbox. And I sincerely hope that, though proper channels withing the Musician Project that you proposal may be accepted someday. But I just wish that in the future you are a bit more polite with me when I try to help. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I can AGF that your remarks about making Misplaced Pages fall to pieces were not directed at me personally. I would also like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatel this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Just to further comment I would like to note, after seeing you refer to the WikiProject Musicians as "my" project several times... I am not a member of that project. Never have been. Never will be. But I am the driving wedge for the Guitarist Project whose tagged articles cross over many of the the articles marked by the Musician Project. Since the musician Infobox is shared by numerous music projects (except the composer project who flatly rejected the entire box and do not use it) proper protocol should be that whenever a proposed change to the box is introduced an alert should be placed on on the Project "siblings" so that all can take part. Unfortunatly this doesn't happen often so each project has members who "hawk" the Musician project so that nothing slips through the cracks. We all work towards the better "wiki-good". But the communication lines could always be improved. Even ours :). I see your dedication to the Misplaced Pages Project. Hopefully you see mine a little better too. I do hope we can find a common ground and perhaps we can work together on a Featured Article someday. I've done several. But I haven't pushed an FA is quite a while. I am overdue for one. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:43, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry for the incorrect assumption. I automatically assumed this because you were the first to always contact me whenever there was concern over my actions. To tell the truth, I automatically assumed that you were an Admin. I agree with the breakdown in communication across the various projects, and hopefully that can be fixed soon. Congrats on your FA's. I've only written one, a few years ago (can't find the time nor energy to do more), which has gone to hell and back a few times. It may need updating now, but I'm too lazy. Would be willing to work with you, if time permits. Orane (talk) 02:55, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I have over 5000 pages on my watchlist. I am sure we will cross paths on an article of mutual interest someday. Cheers! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:09, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm Here To Help
Hey mate, seen a lot of reversions out of you, which is great. But I happen to be a Ba:Lit grad and I was wondering if there were any projects you would like a little bit of wordy work on. Get back to me.
- What is your edit interest. Lots of guitarist stubs need expansion. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 10:01, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm a drummer myself, but I like practicing my critical writing so anything is fine.InterislanderTom (talk) 02:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
Apology
I accidentally left you a vandalism warning after failing to pay attention to the revert order. Thedarxide (talk) 16:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have deleted and removed the Huggle warning so you don't get accidentally blocked. Scarian 16:41, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the message, I'm a bassist/guitarist/drummer (spit! :P), I'll check the project out. Thedarxide (talk) 18:39, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good. Let me know if you have any questions. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there
Really nice to get your welcome note. Hope you can check out some articles I'm working on and give feedback. What can I do to help? Black Stripe (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I will look at your articles. Let me know if you have any questions. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:12, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
John Frusciante
You must be mistaken. I don't know who Spike Wilbury is, but it was Grim-Gym and I who brought John Frusciante to Featured Status. Not this "Spike Wilbury". I am actually rather offended. It was Grim-Gym and I alone. Please get your facts straight. Second of all, I know every single thing about Frusciante. Everything. Therefore, I can tell you better than anyone else, that he's obviously a notable guitar player. The tabs in the infobox are not mandatory and adding "guitar" would not help anyone realize he's a guitarist. NSR77 C 03:50, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sorry for the above comment. Haha. I read your first reply without finishing. It got me a little miffed. My apologies. Anyway, I take photographs for magazines sometimes as a side job and someone I met from a photo shoot was selling their original Strat so I bought it from them. I got the Jag in a somewhat similar situation. That's really cool that you also have a 62 Strat. I love vintage guitars. The sound that comes from them just reeks of the wisdom things are only granted with the passing of time. NSR77 C 03:57, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, all the fields should be filled in where possible. Hopefully not over-killed. Would you mind if it was put to a discussion on the talk page. It was granted FA status with the field filled ion so it shouldn't be too offensive to anyone. It should be a consensus decision and not just one/two people calling the rules. That's a WP:OWN vio. I have owned several elderly Jags along the way. I don't have any in the boneyard right now though. I am currently on a quest for the perfect Tele. I already own 3. The oldest, a 68, is not bad but there is something missing that I just can't nail on it. The other 2 are both around the same vintage. One of them is heavily modified and is one of my main studio guitars. But I use it for mellow Jazz tones (the mods) and it does not snap and twang like a Tele should. The other 2 come close. But not quite. I will keep looking. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 04:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
WP:GUITAR invitation
Yeah, I'll join. Guitar is one of my main hobbies after all.
Thanks!
NeedNotGreed | T | C 22:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
British English on Led Zeppelin
These edit wars over the use of singular or plural verbs in the Led Zeppelin article are not getting us to the point, which is producing a stellar article about a very important group. I have commented in a measured tone with an attempt to explain the situation to my American compatriots. However, I feel some further action is necessary. My suggestion is to place a disclaimer at the top of the page explaining the use of British English. It may even warrant addition to the Led Zeppelin talk page template, perhaps a separate div box with a Union Jack and some bold text. The text might actually use the comment "Please do not change this to "were", it will be reverted back quickly. Misplaced Pages is an American Website, so none of that English Proper Garbage on here." made by our Texan friend 99.160.8.134 against him. For example, "en.wikipedia.org is the English Language version of Misplaced Pages. It is not an American website", etc. The wording can be discussed and agreed to over on the project page.
I would like to know more about this situation in general. I have looked around a little but haven't found anything other than the statement on the WP:Led Zeppelin page. If you know of any official stance regarding which form of English is to be used in which articles, please explain it or point me to it. This is unquestionably a tough issue to deal with - AI hasn't advanced enough to allow for robots that routinely repair misplaced subject-verb agreements in these cases. Sswonk (talk) 17:00, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Greetings
You've been a busy lad, haven't you? What's the news? --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 17:21, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
- Reply on your page. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 20:53, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Rich Robinson image
Hey, I'm flattered that you like the image of Rich that I contributed, but I think it is worth it to drop the old image into the spot currently occupied by the dupe of the Newport photo. Cheers, DickClarkMises (talk) 02:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
AC/DC album
Hey there, I don't know if you've already noticed, but the article on the new AC/DC album is up for deletion. I'm against the deletion - I don't know if you are or not, but if you're against, have your say here here. Cheers, Bretonbanquet (talk) 11:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
But no one ever said that Saint Anger sounded like Slayer. St. Anger was just very poorly produced, mixed, and written. I think if it was more refined, it has the outlines of what could be considered speed metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kgardner1123 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Rock music WikiProject
I'd like to invite you to join the newly-formed Rock music WikiProject. There's alot of Rock-related articles on Misplaced Pages that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help us get this project off the ground and a few Rock music pages into the front ranks of Misplaced Pages articles. Thanks! --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Talk instead of trying to block me okay
Those two projects didn't look active for me okay, sorry, i thought i was doing the best for the project okay sorry, wont happen again. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
- I wasn't trying to block you. But your actions were not those of a person who honours the community. They were the actions of an asshole. Sorry to be blunt. But re-directing those two project was one of the most ignorant moves I've seen on here in awhile. I was a full-time session musician and touring sidesman from 1968 to 1986. Mostly in the Rock genre. I switched careers in 1986 but still do movie/TV/commercial session part-time. I would love to take part in the Rock Project as my years of experience and my long commitment to Misplaced Pages could help the project move forward. But not if its mandate is to ignore/usurp other established projects. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:15, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Your probably right but. Why i did it was to give the project a better infrastructure like i did on the QotSA taskforce. But its not that importent anyway. Oh and good you became a member of the wikiproject. --Be Black Hole Sun (talk) 09:24, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
The Sweet
Quit taking metal out or ill report your for vandalismZakkman (talk) 13:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Your re-direct is being questioned
Here Thanks for doing it BTW. It was overdue. Libs (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Gibson Les Paul Studio
Hey, I just wanted to drop you a line letting you know that I did some cleanup to Gibson Les Paul Studio and managed to get it promoted from "stub" to "c class". I have kind of found my calling as a copyeditor on wikipedia and would be happy to copyedit some more Guitar-equipment related articles if you would be kind enough to point me towards a few in need. Thanks. Washburnmav (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's probably higher than a C class, I figured it was *minimum* C, so re-class as necessary. –xeno (talk) 23:06, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Meshuggah
Good day! Can you please tell me where does WP:RS say that sources such as this one are not reliable?-- LYKANTROP ✉ 02:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Key word = blog. Linking to an blog written by a nobody does not constitute a reliable source. It's an sps. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:15, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, but WP:SPS says also "Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications." That material on MetalKult is produced by "a senior editor at Guitar World magazine. His writing has also appeared in the pages of Revolver, Alternative Press, Bass Guitar, CMJ Monthly, as well as on PaperThinWalls.com" . Except for that, the amount and the momentousness of the information that has been take from the website is absolutely minimal - it is only two terms: technical metal and death-tech which are both mentioned once in the Meshuggah article - in a list of more than 10 genres. Nothing more. Therefore I think that the source is acceptable. -- LYKANTROP ✉ 10:22, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Lonnie Mack
Just finished copyediting Lonnie Mack.Feel free to give feedback on my edits. I did some heavy reorganization and added tables to awards and the discography. I also did quite a bit of grammar/ redundancy corrections. Washburnmav (talk) 18:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I think this article should be considered for a much higher rank as well. I don't want to promote it myself due to COI but I think it could be B class or higher at this point. Washburnmav (talk) 18:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Lonnie Mack
Thanks for all your efforts and advice. I really appreciate them. Take care. Dr.K. (talk) 22:08, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
RE: Clapton
"It was rude of me to speak about the guitarist project and not ask if you are a guitar player yourself"
- Not rude in the least. I appreciate both of your messages. No, I am not a guitarist, just a regular guy who loves what Clapton can do with one. Ward3001 (talk) 01:41, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Awards Box Inclusion - Music
Can you provide a reason for resisting the inclusion of awards in the Music Box? Is there a compelling reason why it should be singled out when so many other boxes have it? Examples provided on the talk page. --FilmFan69 (talk) 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Which awards are notable enough for inclusion? Fanzine polls? Magazine "hall of fame" inclusions. The infobox is already over-populated with fields that 99% of Misplaced Pages editors have no idea how to populate correctly. Adding another will just mean more janitorial work. It's a discussion that's been beaten to death already many times over. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 03:48, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Eric Clapton Copyedit
Done
- Should definitely be considered for GA and after some reference adding, FA. Washburnmav (talk) 23:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Second Opinion
Hey Anger, would you mind offering a second opinion on the Eric Clapton discussion here? Thanks. Washburnmav (talk) 05:22, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Adrenalize revert
Hey there. Could you point me towards the relevant rules/guidelines that led you to revert my editing the forms of participation in Adrenalize? Thanks. —Zeagler (talk) 23:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Relevant links on how to avoid lowering Misplaced Pages into a cheap, poorly written project can be found at WP:CRUFT. The album cleanup falls under several policies and guidelines, beside avoiding WP:CRUFT. WP:NOT, WP:MOS specifically WP:TONE, WP:NEO etc. Aim for "encyclopedia" is the best motto. Not some poorly written amateur fansite. Too many Misplaced Pages music articles are already that way. The album project guidelines for correct formatting do not include the words "match the source album wording" anywhere. The guideline there is; clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article. Hope that helps. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 23:51, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply.
- – From WP:CRUFT: "It is true that things labeled fancruft are often deleted from Misplaced Pages. This is primarily due to the fact that things labeled as fancruft are often...non-neutral and contain original research, the latter two of which are valid reasons for deletion." I don't see how "the voice" and "skins" meet either criterion, seeing as how they're taken straight from the booklet. Changing them to what we think they mean would be original research, however. Granted, it's not really a leap to change them to "vocals" and "drums"...that's why they were wikilinked that way.
- – I don't know what I'm supposed to be looking for in WP:NOT and WP:MOS. Could you be more specific?
- – WP:TONE relates to the prose, and doesn't apply here.
- – WP:NEO seems to apply to the prose, as well. (We wouldn't change a song title that contains a neologism.) It's not a problem here because the info has a reference. If anything, WP:NEO is only arguing against my piped links.
- – WP:ALBUM doesn't include the words "simplify forms of participation to the most common terms", either. Nor does it say "clear direct links that do not duplicate anywhere else in the article", for that matter.
- – Check Freak Out! for an example of a featured article with credits that report some odd terms the artist saw fit to print. —Zeagler (talk) 00:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Starcaster
OK, I see your point. We'll just have to wait until we get a free image for an original. Black Kite 00:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
- Just a thought - could you look at some of the free images of guitarists known to play the Starcaster (i.e. Image:Radiohead-Jonny.jpg) in case there's a decent free image of one there? Black Kite 00:36, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
My Edit
On August 8 2008 you removed the external link to my Charvel site, www.charvels.com.
Any particular reason?
SW
Shawn@charvels.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.185.217.9 (talk) 03:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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RE: Userpage and stuff
Hey there dude! Yeah, I'd be happy to try out something on your userpage. It'd probably end up looking similar to mine because I've forgotten almost everything I learned before so would just have to mash my design together and hope it looks ok here. Or I could hunt down something new and exciting. But whatever the means, I could probably help you out, provided, that is, I have enough time... last year of highschool is a biznatch. Hope you're doing well old friend, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 01:38, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Battle of the Bulge FAR opened
Hey, you apparently have 33 edits in the Battle of the Bulge article, which has just been placed through a featured article review. Your input, if any, would be quite welcomed! Thank you. JonCatalán 20:41, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject Rock music Newsletter for October 2008
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Hey!!
Hey!! What sights are ya seeing? This better be a metalhead pilgrimage. :P Sorry about not getting to your userpage, by the way, pretty busy final year of high school... I'll work on it though! :) Hope all is well, Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 01:49, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Nice! I hope that quest goes well, and you better send me a picture. I'm saving up for this beauty. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 02:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
- Oh, and not that I'll be able to get this any time soon (it costs $3000 Canadian dollars), but how. Sexy. Is. That. Gray black, too. Master of Puppets Call me MoP! :) 02:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Re:Task force
That would probably be a good idea. I'm not sure how to do it though. Izzy007 Talk 17:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Remove 'Notable player' list from Hybrid Picking article?
Thanks for all your excellent guitar-related work. I've been watching Hybrid picking, and I propose removal of the 'Notable' list from that article and maybe moving it to a separate article. See other guitar-related 'Notable' lists like Telecaster players for (equally troublesome) examples. The list at Hybrid Picking is a magnet for repetitive fan-posts (Zakk Wylde, for example), has taken on a life of its own and is about to overshadow the main article, which is about the hybrid picking technique rather than the players. We can certainly expand the article to include notable proponents in context. Full disclosure: I added James Burton and Clarence White to the list a while back. Mea culpa. See related discussion at Talk:Fingerstyle guitar#Let's just delete the list of fingerstyle players, and that list was indeed deleted for the same reasons. Thanks again and best regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 16:31, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
- I support removing POV opinion lists from all articles like this one. The guitarist project has actually discussed this before. Several "List of" articles wre created from those talks. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 17:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for the feedback, I found the old thread on Guitarist project, and have posted a proposal on the Hybrid picking talk page. Regards, Chuckiesdad (talk) 07:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Alan Banks Deletion
Hello. I would like to protest the Alan Banks deletion as he meets the standards listed below:
- It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable.
Multiple interviews and write-ups in Classical Guitar Magazine. Classical Guitar Magazine is the central information source for news in the Classical Guitar genre. It is published and read internationally.
- Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
He has made many radio and TV appearances both in Australia and overseas including live broadcasts and recordings with ABC FM and recordings for BBC Radio 3, the UK’s premiere classical music station. His 2003 recording of Peter Scullthorpe’s “Nourlangie”, with the Ulster Orchestra, is repeatedly showcased on BBC radio 3. Scullthorpe is one of the most esteemed composers in Australia.
Ireland’s Frank Lyons and Australian Richard Charlton have written new works for Alan Banks. Lastly, he is a well known guitarist within the classical scene. That must count for something. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.185.29.99 (talk) 23:26, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Buckethead task force?
Hi there! I'm trying to install a task force under the Guitarists Project. Would you like to join? --HexaChord (talk) 21:06, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
Spider-Man
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pink floyd far
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This is a dynamic IP address... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.136.10 (talk) 17:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
Invitation
I took a stab at composing an invitation template based on one of your messages you left for someone last year. It can be added by typing: {{Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Guitarists/Outreach/Invitation|~~~~}}
. Feel free to edit. As I'm looking through all of our project pages, a lot of updating and editing is needed. I'd like to clean out some old stuff we never used anyway (what is the "Buckethead task force"?) and update some things to modern wikicode. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 03:20, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
- Excellent, thanks. Now if I catch anyone " pickin' " on guitarist articles I can invite them to join. Cheers and have a nice day. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 22:33, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Go Johnny Go
I ordered a few books about Chuck Berry. I want to see if I can make it a Featured Article. I'd like to see if we can really work on getting the article of influential guitarists up to a respectable standard. --Spike Wilbury ♫ talk 03:26, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Great, thanks for the tip on the extra materials. I have two books so far, Brown Eyed Handsome Man by Bruce Pegg and Chuck Berry: The Autobiography. He apparently wrote this book himself without the use of a ghostwriter, which is quite some accomplishment. We of course have to be very selective about using material from the autobiography. I agree that the main focus should be on his music, with a much smaller personal life section. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 05:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
- Okay, I'll take a look at the Page article. As long as WP exists, I suppose we will have this kind of thing happening. I've come to believe that guitarist articles are among the most contentious articles out there, because people feel so deeply about their musical heroes. It's nothing compared to editing religious or nationalistic articles, I suppose! I just created a stub on Bruce Gaitsch. I couldn't believe we didn't have an article on such a long-time and important session player and composer. We had an amusing exchange when I emailed asking for a photo, where he explained how the popular media doesn't care about session musicians. How right he is. Anyway, thanks for the help on Berry. Some of these old rock and blues players get neglected here. I'm going to take a trip to the library to see if they can dig up any old magazine and news articles. --Spike Wilbury (talk) 03:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
Talk:Pink Floyd/GA1
Hi Anger22. Pink Floyd has been nominated for GA status. As you are a significant contributor you may wish to take part. Regards SilkTork * 13:50, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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- I had forgot about creating that article? I travel extensively for work and my time on Misplaced Pages has been very sporadic. If I have time I will review the page at a later date. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 02:15, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
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- My edit count with regards to this article is insignificant as most of my edits were reversions of vandalism. I am not sure what input I could provide that would be helpful. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 19:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
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Good day, friend
Nice to hear from you, and glad to hear you were able to get the "plumbing" cleared up without too much trouble. I (clearly) haven't been very active in the project - a lot going on in my world. I've been obsessing a bit lately about building a respectable home studio; I've splurged on some Mackie gear, experimented with a few different software solutions and finally settled on an app called Mixcraft. It's decent for my purposes and under $100. Nowhere near the bloatware that is Cakewalk or other major players. Take care! --Spike Wilbury (talk) 19:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
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