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	== ~~Musical help again~~ ==		== Hey ==

			What'd I miss? ] <small>]</small> 22:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
	Recently, I redirected the page ] to ], and {{user\|Bwmoll3}} has since been accusing me of "vandalism" (their words, not mine) for redirecting a non-notable song to its album. (See ] for more info.) I have tried to inform the user several times that not ''every'' song needs its own Misplaced Pages page. , I even offered what I thought was a reasonable compromise, but this user refuses to budge and has since told me that they plan to revert all my "vandalism" -- even though I've clearly informed them that I am ''not'' vandalisng, I am simply following ] guidelines. Since you've dealt with musical articles before, I figured you might be of help again. Please tell me what I can do with this stubborn, incivil user who ''insists'' on "owning" their articles. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 02:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

			==Rollback==
	::The fact remains that TenPoundHammer is not contributing anything to the Misplaced Pages community by his deletions of materiel. His statement that he is 'consolodating' rings very hollow when I don't see any consolidations by him. Indeed, if you review his talk pages you'll find that I am not the only Misplaced Pages writer which he has upset, so this is not a single isolated incident. I understand the need for editors here, however an editor is one that reviews materiel and enhances it, not willy nilly liking or not liking it and tossing the work of others into the trash can, as it appears he has done routinely to myself and others. I cleaned up his mess two months ago, and hopefully he will find himself another place in the sandbox to do whatever he wants to do, and leaves relevant material alone. The edits he made the other day have been reversed and as the policy states, if you don't like others savaging your contributions then don't contribute. I've been writing professionaly longer than TenPoundHammer has existed on this earth, so I can excuse some of his arrogance to being so young. As I remmber when I was 21 and no one could tell me I was wrong about anything. However at this point the force has been restored and there is no disturbance being caused by him any longer ] (]) 20:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
			Hey ] <small>]</small>, I wanted to ask is it necessary to inform the editor with
			the uw-vandalism1 template every time an editor rollbacks their edits?
			] (]) 06:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

			:Hey there. Generally a warning is a good idea every time, in my opinion, but I think it depends on the situation sometimes. I had an IP editor who was dropping some ] issues into an article and when I notified them would just go back and do it again. The last time I reverted, I forgot the warning, and they never came back. It's important to provide a warning most of the time, though, so other editors can see if there's a vandalism or other problem involved and escalate where needed. ] <small>]</small> 06:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
	:With all respect to you, if you look at my account you'll see that I've authored or co-authored about 1,000 wikipedia articles, and made over 20,000 edits. I'm quite accustomed to having others make changes to and enhance what I wrote. I don't consider them "my articles", although I contribute my knowledge to many of them. With regards to TenPoundHammer, I've yet to see any of his 'contributions', other than to delete articles. Perhaps if he did his consolidations and enhance articles - '''FIRST''' - then perhaps his statements may carry some validity. However given the fact that he has been less than factual in his statements to me in the past, and his use of profanity when it was totally uncalled for in the past, I find his claims of me being uncivil to him laughable. As he said to me, if I don't wish to have what I wrote edited, then I shouldn't contribute here. He should consider his own words and respect others when they change his writings as well. Now, with regards to this article in question, "Send A Message To My Heart", it seems that TenPoundHammer has made changes to the article after I restored it. I presume then that he is finished with his editing, and with that I consider this matter closed, and quite frankly, have no wish to have a dialoge with him. He can go about his buisness as I intend to go about mine, and hopefully have no more dealings with him, as for some strange reason, I haven't had any problems with any of the other editors in Misplaced Pages... Warmest regards and take care in all you do ] (]) 23:27, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
	*His accusation of swearing is inaccurate. I said "freaking" once and that was it. And no, I'm not done -- I still wish for the less-notable singles to be ''merged'' to the albums in question, not deleted. And I already ''tried'' to enhance the articles as he said; I searched for sources on most of these songs and found nothing. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 23:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*By the way, I'm horrible at dispute resolution am I not? ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 23:41, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

			== Username ==
	::With respect, how many "freakings" must I have to put up with by this obnioxious individual? And how many mistatements in trying to justify his actions must be toloratd ? And also, with respect, his opinion does not follow any established guidelines in Misplaced Pages. Opinons are just that, and his editing, in my view, consitutes vandalism by him eliminating information which it seems no one else in the Misplaced Pages community finds to be objectionable. If his '''opinion''' changes, why is that valid justification for the deletion of information he is making? ] (]) 00:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

			Hey! I noticed your username and I have to ask, did you mean to make it so similar to ]? I honestly got confused briefly because I didn't see anything on your userpage saying you were Toby Fox which made me a bit suspicious, only to realize your username is To'''n'''y Fox and not Toby Fox. ― ]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 22:31, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
	:In addition, if I don't agree with this person's '''opinion''', as a fellow Wikipedian, I have the right to revert those chagnes, as I fully intend to do if I don't agree with them. ] (]) 00:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

			:{{ping\|Blaze Wolf}}Nope, not at all! I've had this nick online since ... well, a long time, including here since 2006. Hey, maybe he was inspired by me! ;) ] <small>]</small> 22:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
	:: Furthermore, this statement ".... And I already tried to enhance the articles as he said; I searched for sources on most of these songs and found nothing...." is simply a justification for his... actions.. There is no attempt on his part, to do any enhancement. Also, as you've stated he works in the area of article deletion extensively, perhaps you may wish to consider moving him to another area where he can perform work without upsetting a large number of individuals. If he would explain his actions and attempt to work with other authors to address the issues he is attempting to in a manner that does not upset others, perhaps he wouldn't find so many people upset with him. However, he seems to be incapable of doing that, as the many upset indivuduals on his talk page can attest to. ] (]) 00:11, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			::Maybe. Thanks for clarifying. One letter really can make a difference. ― ]]<sub title="Discord Username" style="margin-left:-22q;">Blaze Wolf#6545</sub> 22:38, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
	:::How many upset individuals do you count? I only count one other user who had a little bit of a fight with me over ] .... but I quickly resolved that one because it was much smaller and easier to deal with. There are many other users who have ''no'' problems with my edits whatsoever. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 04:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
			:::No problem! ] <small>]</small> 22:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

			== Welcome back ==
	This discussion is a good one! Songs absolutely should be standalone researchable articles. Songs are often recorded by multiple artists, are often on multiple albums, and should NOT be redirected to one artist's album. To redirect a song article to one artist’s album basically deletes all the vitals on the song (writers, other recordings, awards, and related links). Why should a hit song (certainly any charted song) be permanently tied within to one artist, when the artist's article can clearly link to the song, broadening the benefits of research? Also, the focus on what is a "notable" song and what is not "notable" should not be for one Wikipedian to decide IF the song was a chart hit in any of the major trade magazines. One particular Wikipedian (one known for massive amounts of "deletion issues") seems to have his own subjective scale of measuring what is notable, what is a hit, what articles deserve to be redirected, etc. I say let the articles (songs and artists) always remain valuable independent sources and benefit from the existence of each...LINK THEM. Songs in many cases are bigger than the artist. Most song redirects that I have seen are deserving of protest.] (]) 22:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

			Hi Tony Fox, thanks for the civil note at ], certainly an example of the good attitude we hope editors that return after some time have! I've added ] and ] flags to your account to help you with some of the work you've already starting doing. Take a moment to ensure you are up to speed on those expectations. If you don't want these, let me know and I'll reverse. If you think you need other account flags in the meantime, stop by ]. Best regards, — ] <sup>]</sup> 17:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
	It is happening again. I have asked TenPoundHammer before to STOP destroying song articles. Here we go again. Within the last 24 hours, TenPoundHammer has again made the misguided and subjectivly independent decision that articles on two highly recognizable hit singles by the artists George Jones and Sammy Kershaw deserve to be destroyed and merged into TenPoundHammer's own articles on the artists. This is extremely questionable that TenPoundHammer continues to destroy song articles for the enhancement of his own artist articles. STOP. I have chosen to not make a quest out of reversing TenPoundHammer's mistakes, but when TenPoundHammer's mistakes effect song articles I have created, I am not going to standby, and I urge others to do the same.] (]) 17:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

			:{{ping\|Xaosflux}} Oh thank you, that's great! I really appreciate it. I'll be sure to review those before I start hitting buttons. Cheers! ] <small>]</small> 18:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
	== Feedback ==
	I've been working on the stub for ]. I'd appreciate any feedback you have as well as any suggestions for further expansion on the article. ] (]) 04:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

			Hi Tony, just wanted to chime in and give you a welcome back! I remember you from back in the day, and I think I supported your RFA, which wasn't that long after my own. Many things have changed around here, but I think the old trifecta of ]/]/] is still at the heart of what it means to edit well. As someone who also returned after a dormant spell, I think it's best to see this time not only as a time to shake off the rust, but even reinvent yourself and delve into areas that you might not have experienced before. A few places I feel like were helpful for me to gain a sense of how things have shaken up in the community were ] (some seriously fun and insightful banter here), ] (a good example of how the core has remained the same, but the details have changed), and ] (probably the most impactful en.wiki incident of all time). Best of luck! ''''']]]''''' 03:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
	==Palmer-Ridge‎==
	Hi, I noticed that you blocked the user and I thought you should know that the using of his talk page to create a page for a fictional wrestler is extremely similar to {{user\|Jeff Money}} who was a sock of {{user\|Asadaleem12@hotmail.com}}. You can find a list of some of the user talk pages Palmer-Ridge edited that makes me suspect they are socks of his ]. -- ]<sup>]</sup> 21:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

			:{{ping\|bibliomaniac15}} Hey! I recognize that username, great to hear from you. I'm definitely seeing some adjustments in the community and how things flow, but it does seem to be anchored in the same principles as always. That Fram thing, I actually caught some of while I was gone, I'm going to have to go through it more closely though - lots of people are pointing to it as an important moment. For now I'm going to be doing a lot of watching and small things as well as some content creation while I get reacquainted. Cheers! ] <small>]</small> 05:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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			== RfA ==
	Hello Tony,

			Hi Tony. I saw your post at BN. I helped shepherd Jackmcbarn's RfA (including serving as a co-nom) and have done a lot of work on the topic, including facilitating a community review of RfA last year. I suspect that the community, despite Jack's re-disappearence, that it will be fairly open to a former admin at RfA. Please feel free to reach out to me if you would like me to do an assessment after you've been here a month or two. Best, ] (]) 18:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
	You may have guessed that I am new to Misplaced Pages. Please note that I never had the intention of, as you put it, vandalising Misplaced Pages. The changes that I made are correct and can be supported by articles published in the Maltese media. Some are in English and others are in Maltese. It seems to me that people like John Dalli or those who contribute about him are only contributing the positive things. I contributed both positive and negative. Where the contributed negative points can only be verified with Maltese newspaper articles I am prepared to provide a translation. You should note that in the discussion tab I challenged John Dalli or his contributors to start legal proceedings should they wish to do so.

			:{{ping\|Barkeep49}} Thank you very much! I appreciate that. I will definitely touch base when I feel that I've reached a point when I'm ready to move forward. ] <small>]</small> 18:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
	I guess that you are in the USA. If that is the case I am sure that you have never followed Maltese politics and the political corruption that has existed for many years. So much so that Transparency International downgraded Malta to the level of Lagos and other countries in that group.
			::Welcome back! I recall you as an excellent (and relatively uncontroversial) admin, and we can always use more of those. Good luck with the process—I'd be happy to re-nominate you myself, but frankly my support is more likely to lose you !votes than it is to help. :P In any case, glad you're back. ''']''' <sup>]</sup> 18:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
			:::{{ping\|MastCell}} Thank you! It's really nice to know that I made a good impression last time around. "Uncontroversial" is kind of my brand, so I'll keep working towards avoiding it, or when necessary, sticking my nose in and mediating it away where I can. I appreciate the support! ] <small>]</small> 18:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

	I am also prepared to provide affidavits to verify my contributions. As in the case of r past politicians that had a questionable past the whole truth should be contributed to Misplaced Pages, otherwise there is no point in providing this service.

			== Hi ==
	As you seem to be the judge and jury on this dispute I hope that you will do your research well and be impartial in the process. Do not be intimidated by the fact that John Dalli is a Maltese Government Minister. I look forward to a favourable result if not I intend to dispute it.
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			:Oh.
	:Replied at ]. ] <small>]</small> 16:21, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
			:my god.
			:how will I ever live with myself. ] <small>]</small> 01:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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	Hey, just letting you know that ] passed WP:GA. Woo-hoo. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 02:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

			Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited ], you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page ]<!-- ( \| )-->. Such links are ], since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. <small>(Read the ]{{*}} Join us at the ].)</small>
	==Wynonna==
	Do you think it would be a good idea to move ] back to just ], seeing as she's most commonly referred to as just Wynonna? I've taken up this issue on the talk page. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
	*I think I've found some pretty conclusive evidence: ''All'' of her chart singles are credited as just Wynonna, from onward. She's also credited as just Wynonna on . Therefore, I feel that "only if the single name is used as a true artist's name (stage name, pseudonym,...)" (per ]) applies. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 19:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*Just letting you know that I filed a request for pagemove at ]. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:09, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

			It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these ]. Thanks, ] (]) 06:00, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
	== Indef protection ==

			== Re ] ==
	Nope - was too busy with my block-hammer to wield the protection, erm, chisel...I've got them in my contribs, though, so can see that there's been no activity on any of them so far...would the autoblock on one account have caught the others? Not hugely clear on how these things work...<sub>]</sub><sup>]/]</sup> 20:58, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
	:One of the socks has since blanked (but nothing else) its talk page (]) so I've protected it and tagged it. <sub>]</sub><sup>]/]</sup> 06:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

			Hi Tony Fox -- It's my understanding that simple list entries aren't copyrightable, so I've declined this and revdeleted the infringing text. However it doesn't look all that notable to me -- I don't think dissertation awards are often notable -- so could potentially be redirected. Cheers, ] <small>(])</small> 02:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
	== Vancouver meetup ==

			:{{ping\|Espresso Addict}} Thanks for the heads-up. With the entire article being a cut-and-paste from the originating website, I expected that it was a full-on copyvio. I will take another look and redirect it to the association page. Cheers. ] <small>]</small> 02:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
	Greetings. Plans for a Vancouver meetup are in the works here: ]. The more the merrier, so please drop by if you're interested! Cheers, ] (] \| ]) 07:50, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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	Hey again. If it's helpful in creating a stub for an entry on Stardoll, I found the following links that I think demonstrate notability: , , , , , . Some other notable facts about Stardoll: they are backed by venture capital firms and who have invested in other leading web 2.0 sites like Skype, Last.fm, Skype and Apple, Google, Paypal, respectively. Also, CNET awarded them a Webware 100 award last year in the entertainment category: . And Alexa measures them within the top 1000 sites: . Just a few things here--happy to find more supporting materials if they're helpful. Thanks!
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	:Note to self that it's at ]. ] <small>]</small> 07:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


	Hey there, just got your note about the page. Sorry it took a month to look over! Think it's quite balanced and seems all accurate. Thanks for taking the time. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 13:58, 6 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Jeff T. Kane AFD ==
	Hey, there's something wrong with the template on the article page. It doesn't link to the AFD page, it's redlinked. I can't figure out what's wrong with it though. ] (]) 17:20, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
	:Never mind I fixed it. ] (]) 17:47, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

	== Vandalism ==

	Hi, please stop posting vandalism on the main page. Thank you!!!! -] (]) 02:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

	:Righty-o, then! ... ] <small>]</small> 03:23, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

	== Song help again ==

	I may need your intervention again. See ] and ]. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 16:47, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

	Tony...thank you for your attention to the two "here" and "here" issues that TenPoundHammer refers to above. With regard to my choice of the word "destructive", TenPoundHammer's complete redirect of a HIT song article into an album article totally obliterates the song article and the researchable data within that article (the writers, links to artists who have recorded it, cummulative chart data related to the song, awards the song has won, links to websites about the song, links to references, etc). Such actions by TenPoundHammer can hardly be called "collaborative editing", and cause extreme loss of researchable data. If the word "destructive" doesn't apply, I'm not sure what else to call it. It certainly isn't "collaboratve editing" when ONE person subjectively decides what is notable, ONE person subjectively decides what articles contain reasonable references, ONE person subjectively decides to delete others' work on chart HIT song articles by redirecting them to his own articles on artists. These kinds of unilateral, wildly independent decisions on deletions must be stopped. ] (]) 12:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

	==You know what?==
	I hereby declare you my WikiMentor™. You're really an editor I can look up to. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

	:Yesssss... come to the dark side, and together we shall rule this Wiki... ...

	:ahem

	:I'm glad to help, Hammer. You're a solid editor already - if I can help with sorting anything out for you, just let me know. =) ] <small>]</small> 19:08, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*To quote Bill Engvall, "I snotted Coke out my nose." Anyway, I've noticed that on ], someone else is finally agreeing with me. What do you think we should do with the articles? Should I ]ly merge/redirect the content of the lower peaking songs' articles, and maybe ask for the redirects to be protected? ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 11:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

	That is a boldly collusive proposal TenPoundHammer. The discussion of song re-directs is for the enhancement of policy so that policy is not abused, and when you propose to another Wikipedian something like you have suggested above, it is highly questionable. I don't think anyone on Misplaced Pages has ever proposed that song re-directs should be abolished. Re-directs should be more carefully used and applied in cases where the song article in question is clearly one with unverified sources, where the song is clearly not a hit, etc. So, before you enjoin with statements like "come to the dark side, and together we shall rule this Wiki", try to understand that the discussion of song re-directs is a healthy one, the discussion is not without consideration to varied situations where you can make less subjective decisions. The discussion needs time to come to constructive conclusions. I wouldn't advise plotting anything that shortens the time needed to discuss all this.] (]) 12:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	*I don't see how it can get any more conclusive than "there are ''no sources about the song(s) in question''". ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 12:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

	In those cases, you are applying objective evaluation, rather than subjective evaluation, and rightfully so. My argument has never been to stop you from making song re-directs in general. My argument has only been to try to get you to be more careful with re-directs, ones that you have sometimes applied to HIT song articles, articles that DO contain verifiable sources, and articles that HAVE reasonable content. You haven't always kept to reasonable standards, and seem especially reckless in cases where you have applied these song article re-directs into larger articles (on artists) that you have written or are contributing to. Perhaps this is the best place to just ask you to just know that song articles can be valuable resources, leading researchers to vast amounts of other information. All I ask is that you don't always unsheath your sword everytime you see a song article.] (]) 13:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

	I must reference something you said above....Quote: "What do you think we should do with the articles? Should I WP:BOLDly merge/redirect the content of the lower peaking songs' articles, and maybe ask for the redirects to be protected?" What you have suggested here is that YOU shall decide what is a "lower peaking" song (what is a lower peaking song?), then have your decision (in the form of a Re-direct) PROTECTED. This is abusive use of the system TPH. With all the negative commentary concerning your deletion issues and redirects, your decisions should absolutely not be PROTECTED. Protection is used more against vandalism. Something seems askew with your thinking here, especially now that you are taking this behind the scenes approach to gain support. If you really want to ad credibility to your editing, allow the discussion to continue, don't assume that ALL song articles are created by unqualified people, and control your subjective thinking. This is all a good discussion, but will only benefit from a concensus of opinions.] (]) 14:23, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

	:Please stop claiming that what TPH is doing or proposing is abusive. IT IS NOT ABUSIVE. If you look at the discussion at ] and the comments of everyone but you and Bwmoll3 at the above talk page, the redirects are supported for those songs that are not likely to ever grow. Nobody but you and Bwmoll3 are saying that what TPH is doing is abusive or disruptive. Please stop claiming such. At present, the indication is that those songs with no reliable sources and no likely expectation to expand out of stub status should be merged and redirected. I agree that there's no need to protect the redirects, however. ] <small>]</small> 15:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*What do you think I should do then? If I redirect them, either Bwmoll3 or Wikibones is gonna call me a vandal and undo the redirects, and then the chain will keep going. Maybe if I ask ''politely'' that the redirects not be undone ''unless'' the editor actually creates a decent, well-sourced article on the individual songs in question (this also applies to Politics, Religion and Her, and a couple other songs). ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 16:50, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::That's probably the best route. One would hope that as a consensus develops indicating that the current phrasing of WP:MUSIC's section on songs is the appropriate guideline to apply, the editors would turn their efforts to developing a well-sourced article. That's really what we should be doing here in any case - finding sources and expanding where possible, and where not possible, doing something to ensure the subject is covered in some way (in this case by redirecting to the album and including what information is applicable) so we've at least got it covered. ] <small>]</small> 17:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	::::Where do you think I should draw the line? I have a feeling that 99% of the Top 20 hits will ''probably'' contain at least one source. Also, you can probably help me merge some of the content if you want, and remove redirecting links. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:19, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	:::::I'd say if it's top 20 and there's at least one source discussing it, it's probably okay. Anything outside the top 20 is probably getting just a bit iffy. What I might do is do some additional Googling and see if you can find other sources for those marginal ones - if it's easy to pull another source, then do that and leave the article. You might want to bring this up at ] as well, see what the thoughts there are... I'd be happy to help out (though I really should be doing other things right now, and will be through the day, probably). ] <small>]</small> 18:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	I got some redirected already; I'd do more now but I have to go to the drugstore. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*Done. I kept all the Top 20s and a couple near-misses. I also kept the Vince Gill duet because I found a source for it. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 19:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

	==New section==
	By the way, what's up with ]? It's still telling me that all of her other albums link to ] instead of ] (via the template) ''even though'' I've changed ''EVERY'' link I can find (even the template links) to point to the latter link. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 12:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	*Never mind, job queue. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 13:09, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	:*An interesting case where a song article needs to be standalone, not only because it was a hit, but because it relates to more than one artist. To re-direct the song into one artist or the other wouldn't be right.] (]) 13:22, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
	::*Exactly. It was a Top Ten for two different artists, so it's ''very'' likely to have been the subject of multiple reliable sources. A #47 from 1992, however, is very ''un''likely to grow beyond a stub. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 16:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


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	== ] ==

	Since I saw that you blocked ] and ], take a look at ]. Is there somewhere where all this is listed? -- ] (]) 23:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

	: He's been . -- ] (]) 00:20, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

	::This guy is really getting on my nerves. Check out the ] - it looks like Palmer-Bears got missed in the checkuser. I'll maybe ask Thatcher to take another look with that one... yeesh. Get a Tripod page or something... ] <small>]</small> 01:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

	==Collin Raye==
	Hmm, maybe ] wasn't wrong after all... () ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 11:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

	:I noticed that those dates were all over the damn place... in a case like that, I guess the best route to go is to follow the majority, but your compromise with the ref note works as well. ] <small>]</small> 15:40, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

	==] maintenance needed==
	Please comment with specific points on the article's talk page about what wikification and cleanup you would like to see, because I'm not seeing major problems. Obviously is could be improved to make it GA/FA, but I don't think the prose is horrible. The refimprove is obvious. '''<font color="#000000">]</font><font color="#FFCC00">]</font>''' 13:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

	== Prof.Carlos Nemer ==

	Dear Tony.
	This is not what seems,
	to me.
	The article was on line for more than 3 years,
	why this so much worry now?
	Misplaced Pages has no owner, as far as I understood.
	The attitude of mr Orange is as if the hole system belonged to him.
	As an extreme authoritarianism example he deleted an article of a person from the third world without leting it express its relevance.
	every value of western civilization was completely and unscrupulously overrun by this strange character dressed in orange suit.
	What´s the reason for that ?
	I can´t figure out.
	Mr Nemer studied for 31 years of his life.
	He deserves his place and given enopugh time
	I will insert the so much needed justification.
	Best regards,
	I say leave the article on the air to show the world there is somebody
	up to the first world.
	Carlos <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 06:54, 3 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

	== Clarifying my comment on ANI ==

	My point was I was not trying to sound snotty so I refrained from making the joke. I hope that came through - I have no intent of being disrespectful towards you in any way. Cheers. ] <small>(])</small> 08:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	I redirected ], a page on a non-notable George Jones song, to ], the album. Note, however, that both the album and song title have a hyphen in them (even though the album's page is mistakenly spelled without a hyphen). Can you please move the non-hyphenated album page to the correct hyphenated title for me? Thanks. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 23:07, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

	:So you're asking for the article on the album to be moved to the spot where the redirect from the song is? I may be able to put that together, but I'll have to see... I'm on the road right now and don't know how much time I'll have to fiddle with it before Friday... ] <small>]</small> 04:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
	::Yeah, that's what I'm going for. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 18:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::Hey, I've been looking at this and I'm not entirely sure I can manage it without screwing everything up. I'm going to call for another admin to take a look and help out, and hopefully let me know the best way to manage it. I'm still kind of new at this stuff, y'know? =P ] <small>]</small> 06:11, 11 May 2008 (UTC)



	== Upping 1 day block to indef block on ] ==

	Hi Tony,

	i just noticed that the above user has likely created a sock/meatpuppet (Exact same vandalizing text) called ] to resume his vandalism. As this sock has been indef blocked, its perhaps appropriate to do so on the main account, since its a persistent vandal? ]</font><sup> (],])</sup> 22:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

	{{done}} ] <small>]</small> 15:51, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	== Conflict ==

	See ] Once again UWMSports' roommate is adding his comments on article deletion pages, as they agreed not to do. --] (]) 00:11, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	:Where??? I haven't bothered you since. I am purposely staying clear of contact with you. I've only weighed in on AfDs pertaining to pages I have interest in. If you are involved in those so be it, but I haven't gone after your work. Just because some of them didn't go your way doesn't give you the right to go after me.-] (]) 03:02, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	::That is still not an excuse to not follow the agreement you made. --] (]) 13:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	:Okay, having had the chance to look at this, UWMSports, I did ask you and SlipperyPete411 (your roommate, as you stated previously) to avoid "voting" on the same topics, to avoid the potential accusations of sockpuppetry that were lodged in the past. You both "voted" on the ] AFD. That's not kosher. Please be sure that you two don't do this again, otherwise there might be some issues with ] raised that could end up in one or both of you being blocked. As for the AFD itself, it looks like the decision would have been made with or without one of the two opinions. ] <small>]</small> 15:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	::Please Josh, don't act like the victim here just because a page you created got merged. I also defended you recently on your ] page. I'm trying to be fair. And I have followed my agreement. Pete posted after I did. I can't control if my roommate crosses my path once in 4 months! I will tell him to go do his own thing again, but if we ever happen to vote on the same issue again just combine our votes. Or I will make a comment in the discussion not to count one of our votes. Again, I have acknowledged from the beginning I know Pete. Therefore there is no puppertry going on here. -] (]) 16:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::I am not acting like a victim. I am just pointing out that a rule was broken at all. Furthermore, I did appreciate your defending me on the Drake Bulldogs article. It is also good to know what since UWM is done with classes today, this should not be an issue again until August.--] (]) 16:45, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

	::::I also have reason to believe that ] is also a sockpuppet of UWMSports. --] (]) 05:12, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::::Can't we all just get along? Yeesh. I've asked them all to avoid a) editing with one another, and b) editing the same articles as you. ] <small>]</small> 05:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::::: If you could also add in C. Avoid nominating my articles for deletion that would be appreciated. The only thing he has contributed to wikipedia has been to nominate my articles for deletion (see ]). If you look at the list ], ], ], those are all articles I have created and spent a great deal of time on. Also if you would please note that those edits are basically the only things he has done since April 28th, 2008 on Misplaced Pages. I left him a message, asking that he please cease and desist from doing so. --] (]) 16:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::::::Then you need to stop reporting me just because I disagree with your opinions in a AfDs. You need to understand Misplaced Pages is owned by everyone. You're articles are not yours alone. You have, understandably, major conflict of interests about your work. I was only trying to help before and for the most part I've stayed out of your work these last few months. I felt the ] page needed to be merged or deleted when it was brought up again by a DIFFERENT USER! The only article I've nominated of yours in the last 4 months is ]. Anyone can see why I brought that there, as in fact most people have voted for delete. However, I've also defended you a couple times too. I'm being fair! Also, I do not know FancyMustard. I would admit if I did as I did with SlipperyPete. Again, I apologize for that, I have instructed him to go away otherwise we both face penalties. -] (]) 18:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	==]==
	I've closed the DRV as allowing recreation based on your draft. Would you like me to move the relevant revisions from your sandbox, or would you rather recreate it by copying and pasting the content? <font face="Verdana">]]</font> 16:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

	== Waterloo Hawks ==

	Please take note of the consensus that was come to. . Yet ] decided to go ahead an merge it anyway. I feel this is against the consensus that was reached. So I edited the content he moved back into the correct place. Thought I should make note of this with an admin. Furthermore I feel GoHuskies9904 should be notified that this is not the appropriate action to take in those types of situations. --] (]) 16:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:May I ask why the all-time roster is already on the ] page then a link to the all-time roster that says the exact same thing on a different page? I was being ] as directed to be by many people in the deletion discussion. -] (]) 18:03, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:If you disagree with the merge, go to ] or ask for an ]. I'd personally agree with the merge; I don't see the value of having a long list of mostly red links. ] <small>]</small> 20:21, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	::SportsMaster has been reverting my merger edits. I put a Merger proposal tag up. If you could give the opinion you gave here that would be great. I will honor whatever decision comes from this merger discussion, and I hope Master does as well. Discuss here ] -] (]) 22:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	:::I have no problem with the merger, except that you (GoHuskies9904) did NOT merge it, as a massive amount of the information was not merged into the article.--] (]) 22:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

	What are you talking about? Look at what I initally merged the first time. Everything is there except for the lead paragraph which would be redundant to merge over since its already written!!! It's called a selective merge! --] (]) 00:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

	By the way this discussion should be on the ], not Tony Fox's talk page. -] (]) 04:01, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

	== User:Nationalism ==

	Thanks for notifying Nationalism. One thing though, having a ] isn't a valid reason for blocking, as it sounds like you might be implying there. Being disruptive (as with trolling), however, is. -] (]) 20:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

	== exactly how do I make a meter that shows how angry or stressed I am? ==

	Please tell me (go to my user page) one more thing how do I make userboxes?--] (]) 22:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

	== Personal Attacks ==

	I meant every word I've said, but in the interst of keeping the peace, I edited it. Still it doesn't stop the poo throwers from antagonizing the rest of us, if no one stands up to them.--] - ] 03:41, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

	== Zippy again ==

	I'm on my way out the door but I thought I'd pass along this: for your continued ...um, lulz? :) ] 15:52, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

	== how do I fight vandalism ==

	How do I know if someone or something is being vandalized?--] (]) 03:17, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

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	== ] see also addition ==

	I wrote an explanation on the talk page. I should have explained it better, sorry for that. --] (]) 01:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

	:Lol..... I just noticed that the link to your talk page is "arf!".... and the "fox" on your name... :) and then I saw the userbox :) Well, I removed the link. I was convinced that ED had organized at least one of those protests, so I thought that there was a stronger link there. --] (]) 01:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

	::LOL, yeah, when there are ] it's always best to let other people decide the removal :) --] (]) 02:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

	== edits ==

	I done 12 edits so far! (thank you for your friendly messages!:) How many edits should I have before June 14th 20 edits or 30 edits or etc.?--] (]) 23:34, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

	== Copyright on publications ==

	Thank you Tony for the information. I'm new to all this since I just got involved with WikipediA on April 19, and now working with the creator of the Article, also a WikipediA Administrator, to make it the page with most hits in the history of this site. The Plains of Abraham are mentioned in the Discussion section of the article.

	http://en.wikipedia.org/Ray_Joseph_Cormier
	] (]) 16:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

	* Thank you.
	] (]) 17:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

	I wish to dispute your speedy deletion of the article on the band ]. The band is notable, and I was planning to add information to the article today. ] (]) 13:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

	When ] begins putting out albums they may be notable? Although they have not been signed by a major label as of yet, they have released two very good CDs on their own. I have both of them, and play their music on my ] radio show, as well as my ] radio station.] (]) 08:05, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

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	==Recrudescence==
	Kipling wrote a ghost story titled "The Recrudescence of Imray." I've long considered the word apt to describe the reappearance of a blocked user in a different guise. ] (]) 18:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

	== check it out! ==

	I finaaly starting to make my userpage look cool you can check it any time you want since I will be updating it! How should I earn my first barnstar?--] (]) 18:37, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

	== Clamp information? ==

	Hi,

	Just wondering if your friends were able to help with the ] information. ^_^ thanks again for the help. I haven't heard from the IP in question so I'll probably be putting the "all-female" part back by the end of the week. ] (]) 14:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

			:@] Why thank you! Been a while since I got one of these! And hey, it's a team effort. I see you all over RC tidying up, you do a great job as well. ] <small>]</small> 22:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
			::Agreed! Thanks for the compliment. ] (] and ] Fan) 22:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

	== ~~Zachary~~ ~~Jaydon~~ ==		== Billy Bragg ==

			Just a heads up that when Billy Bragg's page was vandalised calling him cis, it's because he's a trans ally: https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1537403855822012419 That vandalism counts as transphobia - not just normal vandalism - so I thought you should know that if you have to deal with his page being vandalised again. ] (]) 12:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
	There seems to be confusion as to the relation between Jaydon D. Paull & Zachary Jaydon. They are one in the same. A large percentage of performers/artists don't go by their legal name. Any notability no matter which of the two names they are credited under are still assertions of nobility under either or both. Many people are eliminating anything that can be user uploaded or changed. I agree with the principle of this in general, however, videos, magazine scans and the such are irrefutable proof of events or facts no matter where they came from. If there is a video of Mr. Jaydon playing with a National Rock Band, you can't say that because it was put up by a "user" that the fact doesn't remain.

			:Under ], this vandalism would be indefinitely blocked on sight since it's discriminatory against trans people. I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job, I'm just saying to keep in mind that this wasn't an ordinary incident. ] (]) 12:56, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
	While every sentence of this Wiki Article isn't strongly sourced, it doesn't mean he doesn't meat notability requirements for an article. I have scanned and uploaded quite a few of my sources at: http://zacharyjaydonwiki.blogspot.com/
			::Thanks for the heads-up. I can't currently do much more than report vandalism when it crops up, but if I see it on that page again I'll be sure to make that point when reporting. ] <small>]</small> 16:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
			:::Yw, and tyvm! ] (]) 16:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

			== Simmtronics ==
	Also, the following was taken directly from ]:

			There are tons of issues with the Simmtronics Infotech article as it stands right now. First of all, a ton of statements in the article concern an entirely different company. ] (]) 23:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
	Criteria for composers and lyricists

			:@] Looks like you have a reasonable start on cleaning it up - it still looks like an ad at this point and could use some editing there, so if you do that and make sure to get some good sources, it should be fine. ] <small>]</small> 17:06, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
	For composers, songwriters, librettists or lyricists:

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	Jaydon has written material on several Multi-Platinum records, including *NSYNC, Craig David, Ryan Cabrera and others. These WERE songs that were included on these albums. They weren't scrapped, or obscure B-Sides. These were songs included on official releases by MAJOR artists. He obviously has notable talent if these artists are choosing to work with him. This is obviously an arguable issue, but given the success of the albums his work has been featured on, it seems at the VERY least, notable. These credits are easily verifiable here:
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	The 3 above sources are all from www.ASCAP.com which is one of the most trusted sources used on Wiki for Songwriter Credit Verification.

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	() also shows from a VERY large, Fortune 500 companies website with information on Close To Home and confirming Mr. Jaydon's Songwriting Credits. This website would be considered reliable on any front, and also independent of the subject himself.
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What'd I miss? Tony Fox (arf!) 22:34, 25 February 2022 (UTC)

Rollback

Hey Tony Fox (arf!), I wanted to ask is it necessary to inform the editor with the uw-vandalism1 template every time an editor rollbacks their edits? Emir Shane (talk) 06:37, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Hey there. Generally a warning is a good idea every time, in my opinion, but I think it depends on the situation sometimes. I had an IP editor who was dropping some WP:BLP issues into an article and when I notified them would just go back and do it again. The last time I reverted, I forgot the warning, and they never came back. It's important to provide a warning most of the time, though, so other editors can see if there's a vandalism or other problem involved and escalate where needed. Tony Fox (arf!) 06:41, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Username

Hey! I noticed your username and I have to ask, did you mean to make it so similar to Toby Fox? I honestly got confused briefly because I didn't see anything on your userpage saying you were Toby Fox which made me a bit suspicious, only to realize your username is Tony Fox and not Toby Fox. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:31, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

@Blaze Wolf:Nope, not at all! I've had this nick online since ... well, a long time, including here since 2006. Hey, maybe he was inspired by me! ;) Tony Fox (arf!) 22:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Maybe. Thanks for clarifying. One letter really can make a difference. ― Blaze Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 22:38, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

No problem! Tony Fox (arf!) 22:40, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back

Hi Tony Fox, thanks for the civil note at WP:BN, certainly an example of the good attitude we hope editors that return after some time have! I've added rollback and pending changes reviewer flags to your account to help you with some of the work you've already starting doing. Take a moment to ensure you are up to speed on those expectations. If you don't want these, let me know and I'll reverse. If you think you need other account flags in the meantime, stop by WP:PERM. Best regards, — xaosflux 17:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Oh thank you, that's great! I really appreciate it. I'll be sure to review those before I start hitting buttons. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 18:03, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Hi Tony, just wanted to chime in and give you a welcome back! I remember you from back in the day, and I think I supported your RFA, which wasn't that long after my own. Many things have changed around here, but I think the old trifecta of WP:AGF/WP:DICK/WP:IAR is still at the heart of what it means to edit well. As someone who also returned after a dormant spell, I think it's best to see this time not only as a time to shake off the rust, but even reinvent yourself and delve into areas that you might not have experienced before. A few places I feel like were helpful for me to gain a sense of how things have shaken up in the community were Iridescent's talk page (some seriously fun and insightful banter here), WP:BLP (a good example of how the core has remained the same, but the details have changed), and WP:FRAM (probably the most impactful en.wiki incident of all time). Best of luck! bibliomaniac 1 5 03:00, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

@Bibliomaniac15: Hey! I recognize that username, great to hear from you. I'm definitely seeing some adjustments in the community and how things flow, but it does seem to be anchored in the same principles as always. That Fram thing, I actually caught some of while I was gone, I'm going to have to go through it more closely though - lots of people are pointing to it as an important moment. For now I'm going to be doing a lot of watching and small things as well as some content creation while I get reacquainted. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 05:46, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

RfA

Hi Tony. I saw your post at BN. I helped shepherd Jackmcbarn's RfA (including serving as a co-nom) and have done a lot of work on the topic, including facilitating a community review of RfA last year. I suspect that the community, despite Jack's re-disappearence, that it will be fairly open to a former admin at RfA. Please feel free to reach out to me if you would like me to do an assessment after you've been here a month or two. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:32, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Thank you very much! I appreciate that. I will definitely touch base when I feel that I've reached a point when I'm ready to move forward. Tony Fox (arf!) 18:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Welcome back! I recall you as an excellent (and relatively uncontroversial) admin, and we can always use more of those. Good luck with the process—I'd be happy to re-nominate you myself, but frankly my support is more likely to lose you !votes than it is to help. :P In any case, glad you're back. MastCell 18:05, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

@MastCell: Thank you! It's really nice to know that I made a good impression last time around. "Uncontroversial" is kind of my brand, so I'll keep working towards avoiding it, or when necessary, sticking my nose in and mediating it away where I can. I appreciate the support! Tony Fox (arf!) 18:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

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You are a furry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.112.8.51 (talk) 23:55, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Oh.

my god.

how will I ever live with myself. Tony Fox (arf!) 01:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

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Re Heizer Award

Hi Tony Fox -- It's my understanding that simple list entries aren't copyrightable, so I've declined this and revdeleted the infringing text. However it doesn't look all that notable to me -- I don't think dissertation awards are often notable -- so could potentially be redirected. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:03, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@Espresso Addict: Thanks for the heads-up. With the entire article being a cut-and-paste from the originating website, I expected that it was a full-on copyvio. I will take another look and redirect it to the association page. Cheers. Tony Fox (arf!) 02:52, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

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		You beat me to this! No fair! Just kidding, good work cleaning up stuff, whether it's vandalism or something else. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop and My Little Pony Fan) 22:47, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

@LPS and MLP Fan Why thank you! Been a while since I got one of these! And hey, it's a team effort. I see you all over RC tidying up, you do a great job as well. Tony Fox (arf!) 22:49, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Agreed! Thanks for the compliment. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop and My Little Pony Fan) 22:53, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Billy Bragg

Just a heads up that when Billy Bragg's page was vandalised calling him cis, it's because he's a trans ally: https://twitter.com/billybragg/status/1537403855822012419 That vandalism counts as transphobia - not just normal vandalism - so I thought you should know that if you have to deal with his page being vandalised again. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 12:54, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Under WP:No Nazis, this vandalism would be indefinitely blocked on sight since it's discriminatory against trans people. I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job, I'm just saying to keep in mind that this wasn't an ordinary incident. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 12:56, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. I can't currently do much more than report vandalism when it crops up, but if I see it on that page again I'll be sure to make that point when reporting. Tony Fox (arf!) 16:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Yw, and tyvm! 92.10.13.209 (talk) 16:20, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Simmtronics

There are tons of issues with the Simmtronics Infotech article as it stands right now. First of all, a ton of statements in the article concern an entirely different company. CessnaMan1989 (talk) 23:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

@CessnaMan1989 Looks like you have a reasonable start on cleaning it up - it still looks like an ad at this point and could use some editing there, so if you do that and make sure to get some good sources, it should be fine. Tony Fox (arf!) 17:06, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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