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	Hi, I reviewed ], failed it because it had a lot of work to do before meeting standards, and then it was quickly renominated. Someone notified me that the article was nominated even before a lot of my concerns were addressed, and that's when I realized it was one of your students. I will assume that you have given the students a set of housekeeping steps before submitting GANs, but in any case, I will list a few basic ones here to reiterate:

	* Format references according to ], which especially requires that at least publisher and access dates for URLs are included. This is often overlooked but is very important.
	* Ensure that every paragraph has a reference at the end; of course, this is not a strict requirement, but it makes it a lot easier for reviewers to know that all of the information in the article is referenced to something.
	* The lead should be a ''summary'' of the entire article rather than simply an introduction.

	These are the primary points that can be done by nominators; I am more than willing to help by moving references after punctuation marks if they aren't placed properly as those are just small maintenance work, but the above points need to be done by the nominators before nominating articles. Cheers! <font face="Verdana">] (])</font> 16:40, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Hey dude! ==

	Just saw your post after peeing on a fire. Had to grin with the image of you and students! Anyhow, just saying hi! (You must be a "real bastard" to make students WRITE in the summer heat! <g>) // <b>]</b><font color="green">]</font> 07:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Battle of Saint Anne's Mountain ==

	Hi Piotrus, could you help me out with this newly created article ]? And could you possibly nominate it for DYK? Thanks. ] (]) 19:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

	== DYKs ==

	Thanks for your kind words. You can see whole list at ]. - ] (]) 21:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

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	== Class Extra Credit ==

	Hello, this is Zach from our Societies course. Here is the diff for an edit I did for an extra point. I might try to do another one before tomorrow afternoon.
	] (]) 06:40, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	Hi, I just did another edit for an extra point. The previous survey results on church attendance and religious importance were not sourced so I found a source and replaced it, adding a decent sized paragraph. Here is the diff for that edit. ] (]) 16:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


	Thanks for the pointers, I am still new to everything. I will address the things you mentioned. I will also try to make a few more edits since the deadline is extended. Thanks again. ] (]) 17:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Deleting reliably sourced information and instigating edit wars. ==

	Please do not delete reliably sourced information, as you did , simply because you don't like it. and please do not start your old tactic of instigating edit wars and baiting editors into 3RR violations, as you have dont in the past and are trying to do . . As an Misplaced Pages admin, and a college professor, please behave more professionally and honestly. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 19:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
	===and again===

	Why do you keep deleting You ''really'' need to stop this. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 19:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	== ] ==

	Just wanted to remind you to be careful about ]. — ] (] '''·''' ]) 20:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	:With respect to the Righteous in the lede of "History ...": This is an article about the ''Jews'' in Poland, not about the Poles and their role in the Holocaust. The most important points in the article should be summarized in the lede, and I don't think the number of righteous Poles is among the most important facts in Polish-Jewish history. — ] (] '''·''' ]) 21:09, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	::I deleted more from the lede than I meant to. I restored part of it, and I moved the deleted footnotes to the appropriate place in the article. Please let me know if you think I made any other mistakes. Thank you. — ] (] '''·''' ]) 22:01, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	== 3RR not an entitlement ==

	Hi Piotrus, just a friendly reminder that the 3RR is not entitlement to revert three times each day, nor does it endorse reverting as an editing technique. If there are persistent issues with ] and/or with other editors on that article, might I suggest that you ask the ] for assistance? -- ] (]) 21:26, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

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	== Star for.. ==

	] or ] 20:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)]]

	== Introducing Geog Barnstar? ==

	Do you know when this was introduced and by who, who designed the image etc (Interlingual Barnstar used then, not the current one)? ] (]) 21:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

	== Piotrus at nlwiki ==

	Hi, the account has been renamed and you can now use your global account. --] (]) 09:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

	== Students' DYKs ==

	Hi Piotrus. I just wanted to say well done on the articles you got your students to write - I hope you'll pass on my congratulations for the DYKs to them. I know I was initially dubious about bending the five-day rule for them but the points raised by you and others at the DYK suggestions page changed my mind. In the end, if this motivates even one of them to stick around and become a serious contributor then everyone will have won out - and that's what DYK's for after all. Good luck with any future teaching you do using Misplaced Pages. ] \| ] 09:58, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

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	== Your defamatory comments on 3RR ==

			== Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi ==
	You that "Boody is convinced of his own self-righteousness and that Poles are evil." You should either provide serious evidence that I am convinced that "Poles are evil" or you should immediately refrain from making such defamatory and false characterizations of other editors. Once again, this is disturbing behavior on your part (specifically, publicly defaming another editor with false accusations of bigotry as a tactic in a content dispute) which reflects badly on your status as an admin. ] <sup>'']''</sup> 15:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
	:Boodlesthecat, wasn't it you who so gladly accepted an award for ''fighting a cabal of Polish chauvinists''? ] (]) 16:12, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
	:::Exactly. The evidence is obvious (, , , , , , , ... ). In any case, I have no intention of discussing anything with an editor whose idea of civil discourse is to sent others email with "you are a dick". EOT, per ].--<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</span></sub> 16:25, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

			hello! i read through your GA review of ''ten no hate made''. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read ''versailles, claudine,'' and ''oniisama e...'' i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! ] (]) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	== Mediation Remarks ==

			:@] Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
	remarks dont make my job any easier, Dont forget that im a volunteer and that I dont have to help out, but I choose to. I would appreciate it if you played along and see where this goes. ] ] ] 16:44, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
			::no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--] (]) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::@] Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--] (]) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be '']'') then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. ] has many options, and there is also ], some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
			:::::@] A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?
			::::: https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html
			::::: https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000
			::::: https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001
			::::: https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/
			::::: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241
			::::: http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp
			::::: https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 <sub style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">]\|]</sub> 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
			::::::@] thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--] (]) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

			==DYK for Polish prisoners of war in World War II==
	: Touche ] ] 16:51, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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			==DYK for Retelling==
	:: Well, I can but I hope to finding a sollution, and fast before Boodlesthecat‎ gets himself blocked again ;-). I trust you wont edit ] untill the dispute protection is over ] ] 17:07, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

hello! i read through your GA review of ten no hate made. i don't mind assisting with some of the japanese, but i'm going in relatively blind, having only read versailles, claudine, and oniisama e... i'm a little pre-occupied right now, but if you can point me in the direction for what you need or give me some sources to work from, i'd be happy to help any way i can! Plifal (talk) 13:19, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Much appreciated. I don't know if there are any academic works mentioning this in Japanese, but I'd expect there should be at least some reviews or such? I'd be very curious if there was any commentary by Japanese reviewers on the choice of subject matter (Polish history), which is very rare in Japan, but I'll settle for just learning what the reviewers said (assuming any can be found). Versailles is pretty famous, so I'd think someone would notice that spin off... _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 13:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

no worries! a cursory google search returned mostly book shops, but i'll see if i can dig for anything more.--Plifal (talk) 15:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Based on my experience with Polish sources, a lot will be non-digitized (particularly considering the age of this). For Polish sources, I often stumble upon mentions of old reviews and such through google book snippets - then I ask a colleague in Poland to go the library and scan stuff for me. Not sure how that will work for Japanese language sources. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:55, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

ok understood, i'll do the same. i might be able to find something in the otaku district here too. i'll do my best!--Plifal (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal Thanks. I am curious to find what sources, if any exist. I'd assume there would be outlets in Japan that would publish reviews of manga; if not academic (ex. Polish equivalent would be Nowe Książki) then presumably in otaku manga magazines and fanzines, which I'd expect to be pretty popular in Japan. Category:Literary magazines published in Japan has many options, and there is also Category:Manga magazines published in Japan, some of which could publish reviews. The big issues is how digitized they are, given that most editions were published in the 1990s. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

@Plifal A collegue send me a lists of potential reviews found by an AI, although (1) I am not sure if they are reliable and (2) they probably are not the old reviews, but some new ones?

https://ameblo.jp/aisharyoko/entry-12651478782.html

https://honkuimusi.hatenablog.com/entry/2022/09/22/080000

https://booklive.jp/product/index/title_id/215654/vol_no/001

https://renta.papy.co.jp/renta/sc/frm/item/39527/

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13255241

http://blog.happyblossom.boo.jp

https://booklog.jp/item/1/4022607483 _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 01:44, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

@Piotrus thank you kindly! i'll look through these this week. i went to the otaku district here but couldn't find any old magazines carrying reviews, but did find cheap copies of the manga with some kind of accompanying text which may contain something useful.--Plifal (talk) 12:25, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Polish prisoners of war in World War II

On 19 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Polish prisoners of war in World War II, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Polish prisoners of war in World War II were held not only by Nazi Germany but also by the Soviet Union? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Polish prisoners of war in World War II. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Polish prisoners of war in World War II), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for Retelling

On 21 January 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Retelling, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the retelling of stories can focus on female characters to reflect the feminist perspective? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Retelling. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Retelling), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:02, 21 January 2025 (UTC)