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| Why do you keep revereting the Stirlitz joke about oranges? It's one of the funniest and most absurd of them. It also perfectly describes the godly abilities of Stirlitz. Reply here or at the discussion page of the article. | |||
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| == Your input and participation is desired == | |||
| Hi, we haven't really crossed paths before now, but I have noticed you around the traps in the last year I have been on WP. I have made a proposal to merge several Russian related projects into ]. You can view the proposal at ]. Having seen your contributions to Russia-related articles, you would be a great addition to the project. As you are probably aware many Russia-related articles are suffering, and a lot of it has to do with a lack of co-ordination, collaboration with editors who are achieving the same goals (that being building an encyclopaedia) and "backup" from a project structure. Your input into the proposal is kindly requested, and perhaps we could get you onboard. So that all editors are reading off the same page could you please limit discussion to ]. We all look forward to your input. Cheers --] <sup>] ]</sup> 18:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Thanks for Novy Mir split == | |||
| ==Fair use rationale for Image:Ne_po_svoej.jpg== | |||
| I appreciate your taking prompt action; even though I've been here a while now, I'm still nervous about doing drastic things like that! ] (]) 17:18, 28 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| == Notability of Kage Physical Theatre == | |||
| == KPSS statutes? == | |||
| You recently tagged ] for notability. Please elaborate? The ] and the ] plus independent newspaper coverage addresses the question of notability I believe. -- ] (]) 23:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==CfD nomination of ]== | |||
| == SCIA article == | |||
| I have nominated {{lc|People by race or ethnicity}} for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at ]. Thank you. — ] <sup>]</sup> 20:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I still don't think the list of names of founders is notable but am happy to leave them there given the disagreement. | |||
| There's an opportunity for expansion and reformatting to group the history and the services info a bit better. I've made a start on this but if you'd prefer the article remained unchanged let me know and I'll leave it alone. ] (]) 23:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for the clarification. I don't believe I was being disrespectful of the founders, and in fact noted otherwise in my edit summary. I see a fair few articles with long lists of people's naames, and don't always think they need to be there (the ] article for example lists dozens of playernames as a kind of memorial). | |||
| :But this is a side issue. I'll keep working on the article and leave the founder's names where they are. ] (]) 23:29, 4 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == French identity... == | |||
| Hi, Mikkalai. Your request for SUL is done. I have freed the Mikkalai account and renamed your Mikkalai-fr in Mikkalai. ] (]) 18:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thx. `']] 18:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Your deletion of redirect back in March == | |||
| ] was deleted, even though it was a redirect. I'm checking to make sure that this was intentional, since the reason seems generic. --] (]) 19:37, 11 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Okay, I just wasn't sure if it was automated. --] (]) 00:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Human Toilet == | |||
| I saw the deletion of the above article. Frankly we could probably do without it. My concern though is that from the opinions expressed, the consensus was for keep or move, and not for delete. Is it appropriate for an admin to disregard the consensus and delete anyway? In this case, claiming that notability was not met. Apparently the people voting did not feel that was the case. I'm more interested in understanding the policy well, rather than fighting to keep that article. Thanks, ] (]) 21:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Since AFD (like all things on Misplaced Pages, for the most part) operates by ], it was a bad close. The closing admin shouldn't impose their point of view in a debate as was done here. Mikkalai, would you please reconsider your close and undelete the article? —] • ] • ] 01:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Hi Mikkalai. Looks like it was a good close. (I happen to have your talk page watchlisted for some reason, so I'm kibitzing.) It's good to see admins who haven't got the utterly mistaken impression that AfD is a vote, or that comments there are meant to be taken as 'votes'. | |||
| The lone source for the article appears to have been a now-dead dead weblink. Perhaps someone in the future will write an article that is properly sourced; in the meantime we have ample coverage of the concept in articles like ]. Cheers, ](]) 22:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| : So you tag the article requesting additional sources, you don't knee-jerk delete. At worst there was no consensus for closing, at best it was a keep given the comments made. Injecting your own opinion (and discounting opinions along the way) isn't how things work here. —] • ] • ] 01:23, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Knee-jerk? You must be kidding. The article sat there tagged as unreferenced for over a year, with no progress. As for my opinion, you probably have insufficient understanding how deletion works. It is not just counting votes: it is making judgement of arguments vs. policies, i.e., an administraive opinion; otherwise the job of deletion closure could have been done by a 'bot. `']] 08:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::Unreferenced or not, the consensus was that the subject was notable (which was the cause for the AFD). Strangely, some of the articles you removed this page from would have helped serve as sources for notability (one was a book author, IIRC, who apparently used the act in his writings). —] • ] • ] 13:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::Notability must be provable. While it looks like you are a relatively mature wikipedian, I encourage you to let yourself re-read and really understand the core wikipedia policy, ]. Let me also remind you that nothing cast in stone in wikipedia, and the article may be rewritten, and it will stay, if it will follow core wikipedia rules: you have to have ] from experts in ] or ]s which attest the significant usage of the term, not just in a couple of books which try to scandalize and make money in this way. I may list several dozens of names of weird sex games, most of which are most probably invented for the sole purpose of making fun of those who enrich their knowledge from ]. `']] 16:16, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::Right, but it's not your place to decide what is and isn't notable, it's your place (in the context of AFD) to determine consensus only. The consensus at that debate leaned towards the subject being notable for inclusion. While you may not have approved of (or agreed with) the opinions presented, it's irrelevant if the community (as represented by those participating at that debate) believes otherwise. —] • ] • ] 23:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::Nope. Once again, AfD is not voting. And it is exactly my place to evaluate arguments pro/contra. And I didn't decide whether it is notable and I didn't write that I decided it. I wrote: ''"Notability must be provable"'' - I cannot take word of 2-3 or even 15 wikipedians. For the umpth's time, colleague, please show me ''']''' where experts in sexology discuss the subject. I completely agree with those who think that such stuff must be included in wikipedia: after all, this is one thing which distinguishes wikipedia from Encarta or Encyclopedia Britannica. But at the same time we do have a certain threshold for inclusion, to separate kinky jokers from something more material. And this threshold is?.... Shall I repeat again? I know, it sucks sometimes, but nothing better suggested and agreed upon yet. `']] 01:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::::You've been here much longer than I have, so I feel like I'm being a dick by pointing you to this, but I really don't see an alternative: ]. Please, I implore you to read that page. Above all else, Misplaced Pages operates through consensus decision making. When you decided to impose your own personal interpretation of the AFD discussion you basically threw aside the other editors involved in the discussion and told them they were wrong. That's not your place. —] • ] • ] 02:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::::There are certain fundamental policies which cannot be superseded by any local random consensus of 4 wikipedians, because they have been created and accepted with mucho blood, sweat and flame. ] is one of them. And as a closing admin I am entitled to my personal interpretation of how the AfD discussion agrees with the fundamental wikipedia policies. Otherwise one can easily shop internet forums and create fake "consensuses" or "consensa" ;-) in AfD discussions. Yes, I've been here much longer, and we saw that happen in these olden days when wikipedia policies were lame and lax, and trolls were happily prancing around sticking their long noses in all possible loopholes. and when it was next to impossible to fully formally delete on spot articles with content, like, "Tom Mahoney is a guy with the longest ...er... thumb in the whole Montana." Quite a notable person this Tom, what you think? `']] 02:55, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Hi, we haven't really crossed paths before now, but I have noticed you around the traps in the last year I have been on WP. I have made a proposal to merge several Russian related projects into WP:RUSSIA. You can view the proposal at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Russia#Proposal_for_overhaul_and_creation_of_a_single_WP:RUSSIA_project. Having seen your contributions to Russia-related articles, you would be a great addition to the project. As you are probably aware many Russia-related articles are suffering, and a lot of it has to do with a lack of co-ordination, collaboration with editors who are achieving the same goals (that being building an encyclopaedia) and "backup" from a project structure. Your input into the proposal is kindly requested, and perhaps we could get you onboard. So that all editors are reading off the same page could you please limit discussion to Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Russia/Proposal. We all look forward to your input. Cheers --Russavia 18:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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Notability of Kage Physical Theatre
You recently tagged Kage Physical Theatre for notability. Please elaborate? The Australian Dance Award and the Green Room Awards plus independent newspaper coverage addresses the question of notability I believe. -- Paul foord (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
CfD nomination of Category:People by race or ethnicity
I have nominated Category:People by race or ethnicity (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. — Coren 20:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)