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== Well Bulbapedia is useless == | ||
| This has all gone further then it should have, but harsh comments to me and extending blocks are not the answer. | |||
| I'm willing to talk to the other editors involved in a civil manner, but i request that the admins that are involved with both blocks and each other not include themselves. | |||
| I think me and Atom can make amends, and the survey to make consensus on the breast article is well underway and i will accept any out come. | |||
| There is no need for further finger pointing or harsh and uncivil comments. | |||
| I also have made it clear that i admit to war editing on the lead image for the ] article. And i did admit to calling Atom a Ass and i apologize to you Atom, and maybe like me and Artichoker are now, you and me might be able to work in a civil and all things in the past manner in the future. ] (]) 19:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| I'm doing my best to calm and cool down but for the past many days i have felt ganged up on and i feel violated by the justice system of wikipedia. | |||
| If i have gotten uncivil in the past few days i am sorry, but there is a lot of things that contributed to it. | |||
| I hope me and all the editors can work to get a consensus and change the articles for the better of the article and wikipedia. | |||
| Not to change the articles for some pride or moral stance but education and what wikipedia stands for. We all know that wikipedia isn't perfect, and we all know the attitude towards it because of the fact anyone can edit it but wikipedia has evolved since i first started editing and now people can't put a donkey on a pig article, and can't edit the Bush article to say he's a she male or trans gendered female. | |||
| Again Atom, Honeyman, Asher and who ever else on that article i hope we can work to improve it and set our feelings, pride and attitudes towards each other and ourselves aside. | |||
| I admit i once thought of Artichoker as my greatest pain in the ass, now i see and respect him as a friend who is my greatest pain in the ass lol. (that wasn't a personal attack just a joke, but he is a friend.) | |||
| Me and Artichoker have had a past and soon all of you and me will have a past. I didn't hold my past with Artichoker against him, and i doubt I'll hold it against all or any of you. ] (]) 19:56, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I seriously don't know if I can believe you Yami, it shouldn't take a 120 hour block to convince you to work with other editors.--]<sub>]</sub> 20:14, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Keep good faith. If you had bias admins against you, you'd be a little mean spirited and easily capable of getting blind with rage like i've been experiencing. | |||
| If you don't want to believe or work together in the future, i won't force you but i will try and work with the other two+ ] (]) 20:20, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Okay, I've full protected this page for a couple of hours. This is to stop you ranting against the apparent bad behaviour of the admins involved. Please '''stop''' accusing people of things that aren't real. ]] 20:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == Public complaint == | |||
| I have recently received a complaint from Yami, to the effect of the conduct of Scarian and Rlevse has been improper, and that they have, in their rôle as an administrator, endorsed one another despite a pre-existing friendship. | |||
| Naturally, it stands to reason that administrators who are friends (on- or off-Wiki) should not be acting in their capacity as an administrator, with the intention of "helping the other out": basic standards of recusal do exist. | |||
| I would be interested in receiving input on how credible this complaint is. | |||
| ]<sup>(<span style="font-size: 95%;">] ◊ ]</span>)</sub> 00:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Lets not forget Dreadstar as well. ] (]) 00:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I've unblocked Yami. AGK: Rlevse and I have had very, very little contact on Wiki (and none off-wiki). There was no secret dealings or anything like that. I was asked to review the situation which I did. Nothing underhanded occurred. ]] 00:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Scarian, I've been filled in fully on the situation, and am satisfied that the complaints have no substance. Thanks for responding. ]<sup>(<span style="font-size: 95%;">] ◊ ]</span>)</sub> 00:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| not to stir the sharks up but what about you and Dreadstar? ] (]) 00:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :There is a thin link between Dreadstar and Rlevse (they exchanged barnstars), but I am satisfied that Rlevse did not recommend to Scarian (in response to his request for input) that you have your block extended ''because'' you had been on the bad side of Dreadstar: the link is simply not that strong, and there is simply no reason to suggest this is the case. I think it's time to put this to bed now, ]<sup>(<span style="font-size: 95%;">] ◊ ]</span>)</sub> 00:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Also why am i auto blocked? ] (]) 00:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Autoblocked basically means that your username is unblocked but your IP is still blocked. Are you sure this is still occuring? ] (]) 00:49, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| The claim that I have a pre-existing friendship with Scarian is not true. I do not recall any contact with him at all prior to this case. He asked for input on my talk page and I gave it, that's all. As for Dreadstar, we'd just come out of a long dispute at the Coker article about one day prior I gave him a barnstar, and also gave one to Avruch and Elonka the same day. That this occurred about the time of this block is sheer coincidence. I saw Yami's thread on Dread's page and that's how I came here. That thread was started before I posted the barnstar and before I did the block. I have recused myself before and do so when need be, such as an arb case, the Coker issue, and an SSP case where I had prior dealings with someone. <span style="font-family: verdana;"> — ] • ] • </span> 00:42, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Thanks for responding, Rlevse: much appreciated. ]<sup>(<span style="font-size: 95%;">] ◊ ]</span>)</sub> 00:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| There was no undue collusion between Rlevse, Scarian and myself; and a lot of editors have my talk page watchlisted. ] <small>]</small> 00:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :You hit the nail on the head there, Dreadstar: no undue collusion is a perfect summary of my conclusion to the complaint. Thanks for your input, ]<sup>(<span style="font-size: 95%;">] ◊ ]</span>)</sub> 00:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| "Hallå, Dreadstar and I were discussing whether it'd be appropriate to extend Yami's block. Would you be partial to this? He does appear to be refusing to abide by our policies. Or would you be more inclined to let the block lift naturally and see if that sets him straight? I'm okay with either, but he does seem unrelenting, to be honest. Wondered what your opinion was. Thanks. Hejdu! ScarianCall me Pat! 14:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)" | |||
| That is off Rlevse talk page. Plus you two were working on the Coke article and awarded eachother the same day i got blocked. I also called you bias, reported you and asked you to not contact me multiple times. | |||
| You repeatably came back to hound me about me being uncivil and not indenting when it wasn't even a rule breaker. | |||
| Well that's why I don't use Bulbapedia. | |||
| lets not forget that you have a editorial history on the breast article which this all started with. ] (]) 00:54, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Anyways, I haven't done much work to '']'' because frankly there isn't a lot to work on until the game is release. Also I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages lately. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 15:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Also Scarian where were you and Dreadstar talking? i don't see anything on your talk pages. ] (]) 01:01, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :I don't know much about Bulbapedia, but it seems they only have about 30 admins and they are a very tight group. ] (]) 15:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| =="Please?"== | |||
| :I've cleared your autoblock, you should be able to edit freely now. ] <small>]</small> 01:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| You said on my talk page, "And given the past with Atom i wonder why or how he even came to the article for Please." Well, it could be a simple coincidence that he went to the ] article. Or it could be that he happened to stumble upon the conversation on ] and then naturally went to the ] article. Or it could be that he is watching your contributions. Or it could be something else entirely. I have no idea how he came to make the edit you referenced on my talk page. Perhaps ask him what led him there. ] (]) 02:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
| == January 2009 == | |||
| thank you ] (]) 01:53, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Thank you for your recent contributions to {{#if:List of Dragon Ball characters|the ] article|Misplaced Pages}}. While the Misplaced Pages community appreciates your efforts to increase the amount of information on the site, we cannot accept sources that appear to be the ] of the editor. If the material you added can be attributed to a ], you may add it back if you ]. This increases the reputation of Misplaced Pages as a whole and aids in the ] of the article.<!-- Template:OR-note --> ] <small>(] • ])</small> 16:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == re:hey friend == | |||
| :Just because other areas of Misplaced Pages need work, does not precedent that one can add unsourced content wherever they like. Either cite that data with reliable references (i.e., the Viz manga), or keep it off of there. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 19:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::Again, because something isn't cited elsewhere doesn't mean one can ignore policies. It's like suggesting it's okay to vandalize just because there is vandalism out there. Both methods are unconstructive, and just as ''']'''. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 19:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::: So its alright to keep info that isn't cited, but its not ok to add info that isn't cited. ] (]) 19:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| That's all good, and please try to stay unblocked =P. As for the cheatmonkey thing, I went back in and adding information to the references. I checked the site and it said the author's name was cheatmonkey, so I added that. However, I still don't believe that site is reliable and it may contain user-submitted content. In any case, I'm glad to see some rationality in your statement that it can be removed; I'll look into the matter. Happy editing, <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 02:51, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::: If you REALLY wanna know about citations and when to actually source things, ask ]. She's more of an expert at this kind of stuff than I (though I doubt she'll tell you anything different). ] <small>(] • ])</small> 19:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Well i was told the site itself was reliable and what not, but wikipedia policies are so confusing sometimes. I know half the policies seem like they take you in a circle. I'd find the policy but my patience with finding policies has been lessened in the past week or so. I think it was a user on that artile's talk page that mentions game sites like that being creditable. ] (]) 03:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::::I'm still looking into the situation fully, but here's what I've got so far. Based on ], "Any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." Now, obviously the content that Yami added has been "challenged", but I'm wondering about the "likely to be challenged". There's a ton of unsourced material in that article that seems to be equally "likely to be challenged". However, it is up to the person who added the content to source it. But, on the other hand, sufficient time should be given to find a source before outright removing the content (with the exception of negative unsourced content on BLP). However, I'm wondering why Sesshomaru . ] (]) 20:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::I couldn't rv the edits with the undo feature without having to get to that first. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == re:Wow i can be uncivil == | |||
| :::::::Fair enough. ] (]) 21:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::well i can't guess why, but there is not one thing even cited in the 17 portion, yet he removed my addition. I would like to say Wiki own here, but last time i said that was against a article/person i wound up banned. | |||
| Well I'm glad that whole drama is over in any case. As for your content on the ] article, I would like to remind you that the issue was not existence (everyone knows that Torchic does not have an active flame) but rather notability. If you have something to add then you should always back it up with reliable sourcing. This was the same ordeal we went through during the ] episode. But frankly, I think you just picked the wrong article. There was a 2/493 chance that the article you picked would be a featured (or formerly featured depending on the time you edited it) article, and therefore have a generally higher standard of inclusion. My guess is that if you had picked any other article (besides ]) you would have been able to add the information without opposition! <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 10:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::::::anyone who has seen the anime/ read the manga knows most of this material, but to please wiki we have to cite. Yet much of this is uncited, and the second i add similar info, I'm caught up into a unfair accusation of original work and told to cite. ] (]) 20:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == re:award == | |||
| :Both of you, read ]. Your contributions are not helping. ] <small>(] • ])</small> 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
| Hey man, thanks for the barnstar. I really appreciate it. But as for the '']'' article I didn't really write much of it at all; just helped save it from being merged for the time being. In any case, thanks again, and happy editing. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 02:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ==Copyright concerns== | |||
| == re:Help on List of Pokémon == | |||
| ], which you uploaded on Sunday August 3, 2008, has been speedily deleted as a ]. While it was hosted by , it was displayed with permission and is not public domain. The Wikimedia Foundation received a complaint about this image upload via e-mail from the copyright holder (OTRS agents may view this communication at ]). Please be careful with image uploads to ensure that they are free for use. Misplaced Pages takes copyright laws very seriously. --] <sup>]</sup> 13:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == Should ] be renamed into something else? == | |||
| Hey, its good to know that you are editing productively. Looking over some of your edits to ], I am seeing a lot of gamecruft and trivial material. Try not to include things such as specific moves, etc. and only add things that are definitely worth mentioning. I think you will doing more trimming than adding, but overall your grammar is looking good. Just remember to proofread. Also, adding some reliable sources would be pretty awesome. Happy editing, <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 20:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :Actually I think less is better than more if the "more" happens to be gamecruft. And one way to make the various Pokémon exert notability is to add reliable sources. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 20:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| ::Awesome. And you are absolutely correct about that; they are hard to find. Especially these ones, focusing on individual and minor Pokémon. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 21:05, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| :::My guess is yes, that is a reliable source. Keep up the good work, <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 23:23, 13 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| That is the question that is repeated again here: ]. Since you are not an involved editor, would it be possible for you to provide an input? Thank you in advance for your time! --] (]) 18:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC) | |||
| == re:I'm gettign no where with these guys == | |||
| == Main Image of ] Article == | |||
| Well it's good that you aren't edit warring. As for the content dispute, I am sorry but I just don't have enough time to get involved in one. Also, it's not a topic I'm really interested in; but let it be known that I do support the removal of the video. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 02:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| What do you think about changing opening picture of the ] article? Your ]. Thanks! ] (]) 08:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == re:No one can win with this atom guy == | |||
| == Photo request == | |||
| Well it seems that discussion is still going on, so we'll wait and see what happens. Sorry I couldn't participate more in the whole thing, it's just that I really don't have time right now. I'm thinking about going on a ]. <span style="padding-left:2px;padding-right:2px;background-color:#f5faff;border:#cedff2 1px solid">]'''<nowiki>]'''<nowiki>]</nowiki>'''</span> 00:47, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| Since you are from the Cincinnati area, if you want, would you mind photographing the corporate headquarters of ]? They are on Comair Boulevard at Cincinatti Airport. ] (]) 23:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC) | |||
| == You have new message == | |||
| ==Breast talk== | |||
| There is clearly no ] for your proposed change to the lead image in the ] article; and at this point you are being ] and ] by repeating the same argument over and over again without persuading people, and are making ] of article ownership and "misrepresenting" consensus . I strongly recommend you step back, relax, and ], or you risk being blocked. ] <small>]</small> 01:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
| {{talkback|Talk:Rob Paulsen#Mr. Weed}} | |||
| :Even if ] were a strictly numerical vote, 5/4 would still ''not'' make a consensus, as other editors have pointed out - 75 to 80 percent is the minimum standard for a passing percentage on Wikipeida, 5/4 is only 55.6%. On top of this lack of a numerical percentage, ], and we do not use a ]. It takes more than just a certain percentage of "support" or "oppose" votes to create a true consensus. And no, I am certainly not "obligated to maintain a distance and not interact or persuade others to interact for me" with you, your characterization of my interactions with you are highly flawed, and I see you've made the same false accusations of bias against others who have warned you. ] <small>]</small> 02:03, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Welcome to my talk page
I only ask you be civil and start a new line for each post signed with the ~~~~ It keeps things from getting confusing @_@
thank you ^_^ Yami (talk) 05:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Well Bulbapedia is useless
Well that's why I don't use Bulbapedia.
Anyways, I haven't done much work to Pokémon Platinum because frankly there isn't a lot to work on until the game is release. Also I haven't been very active on Misplaced Pages lately. Artichoker 15:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know much about Bulbapedia, but it seems they only have about 30 admins and they are a very tight group. Useight (talk) 15:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
"Please?"
You said on my talk page, "And given the past with Atom i wonder why or how he even came to the article for Please." Well, it could be a simple coincidence that he went to the Please article. Or it could be that he happened to stumble upon the conversation on Talk:Cincinnati, Ohio and then naturally went to the Please article. Or it could be that he is watching your contributions. Or it could be something else entirely. I have no idea how he came to make the edit you referenced on my talk page. Perhaps ask him what led him there. Useight (talk) 02:26, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
January 2009
Thank you for your recent contributions to the List of Dragon Ball characters article. While the Misplaced Pages community appreciates your efforts to increase the amount of information on the site, we cannot accept sources that appear to be the original work of the editor. If the material you added can be attributed to a reliable source, you may add it back if you cite it. This increases the reputation of Misplaced Pages as a whole and aids in the verifiability of the article. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- Just because other areas of Misplaced Pages need work, does not precedent that one can add unsourced content wherever they like. Either cite that data with reliable references (i.e., the Viz manga), or keep it off of there. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Again, because something isn't cited elsewhere doesn't mean one can ignore policies. It's like suggesting it's okay to vandalize just because there is vandalism out there. Both methods are unconstructive, and just as blockable. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:48, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- So its alright to keep info that isn't cited, but its not ok to add info that isn't cited. Yami (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- If you REALLY wanna know about citations and when to actually source things, ask User:Collectonian. She's more of an expert at this kind of stuff than I (though I doubt she'll tell you anything different). Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm still looking into the situation fully, but here's what I've got so far. Based on WP:BURDEN, "Any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation." Now, obviously the content that Yami added has been "challenged", but I'm wondering about the "likely to be challenged". There's a ton of unsourced material in that article that seems to be equally "likely to be challenged". However, it is up to the person who added the content to source it. But, on the other hand, sufficient time should be given to find a source before outright removing the content (with the exception of negative unsourced content on BLP). However, I'm wondering why Sesshomaru undid this edit. Useight (talk) 20:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- If you REALLY wanna know about citations and when to actually source things, ask User:Collectonian. She's more of an expert at this kind of stuff than I (though I doubt she'll tell you anything different). Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:58, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- I couldn't rv the edits with the undo feature without having to get to that first. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Useight (talk) 21:49, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- I couldn't rv the edits with the undo feature without having to get to that first. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
- well i can't guess why, but there is not one thing even cited in the 17 portion, yet he removed my addition. I would like to say Wiki own here, but last time i said that was against a article/person i wound up banned.
- anyone who has seen the anime/ read the manga knows most of this material, but to please wiki we have to cite. Yet much of this is uncited, and the second i add similar info, I'm caught up into a unfair accusation of original work and told to cite. Yami (talk) 20:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
- Both of you, read User talk:Collectonian#List of Dragon Ball characters. Your contributions are not helping. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Copyright concerns
File:Breast.jpg, which you uploaded on Sunday August 3, 2008, has been speedily deleted as a copyright violation. While it was hosted by the National Cancer Institute, it was displayed with permission and is not public domain. The Wikimedia Foundation received a complaint about this image upload via e-mail from the copyright holder (OTRS agents may view this communication at Ticket:2009090410024907). Please be careful with image uploads to ensure that they are free for use. Misplaced Pages takes copyright laws very seriously. --Moonriddengirl 13:27, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Should Persecution of Falun Gong be renamed into something else?
That is the question that is repeated again here: Talk:Persecution of Falun Gong#Requesting Move. Since you are not an involved editor, would it be possible for you to provide an input? Thank you in advance for your time! --HappyInGeneral (talk) 18:28, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
Main Image of Penis Article
What do you think about changing opening picture of the Penis article? Your opinion needed. Thanks! Yestadae (talk) 08:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Photo request
Since you are from the Cincinnati area, if you want, would you mind photographing the corporate headquarters of Comair? They are on Comair Boulevard at Cincinatti Airport. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:05, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
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