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| Thanks for taking the time to post on http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2008_September_4 in reference to Jonathan Sammeroff. Please feel free to respond to my new comments on the matter (and remove this post once you have done so) :o) ] (]) 21:29, 4 September 2008 (UTC)peenapplay | |||
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| Hello! I just wanted to pass along my thanks for your support in my RfA from earlier this week. I hope I did not disappoint you. I am going on Wikibreak and I will let you know when or if I am back on the site -- I am trying to take time away to clear my thoughts and refocus on this and other priorities. Be well. ] (]) 04:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| Most IP talk pages I have seen in whcih someone posted a warning were used '''once'''; we all know that it is most likely that the vandal is just a kid who will not come back or if s/he does will use a different computer in the library or a different internet cafe. All posting these warning do is to create new talk pages. This is ine effect creating a nonsense page, and ''this'' is against policy. | |||
| The only pages I have deleted are phone user talk pages, that is, talk pages for non-existent users. | |||
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| Do people really create ''new'' pages all the time in order to post a warning to an unidentified person? Well, there was a time when no one did that. there was a time when people focused on writing articles. | |||
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| I assume good faith on the part of people who create new pages pointlessly, which is why I warn them. They take their well-intentioned zeal against vandalism one step too far. But the practice should be discouraged. ] | ] 00:58, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :I see you are a long-time editor and administrator, while I am relatively new with the mop. However, I don't see that your interpretation squares very well with consistent, established practice around here. We warn IP users '''''all the time''''' as a matter of routine course, and we block IP addresses as well. Users with named accounts can usually still edit depending on the type of block. I '''''definitely do not see''''' the purpose of blocking an editor with an account who has done nothing but warn an IP vandal, simply for creating what you are calling a nonsense page, which that is what goes on around here all day, every day. | |||
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| :I am perfectly familiar with the templates you've splashed around above, and they are perfectly appropriate in cases of repeated abuse from IP addresses (whether semi-static or dynamic). But often people think nobody is paying attention, and even a single warning is quite effective in deterring future vandalism, which is the whole point. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">] {{!}} ]</span></small> 01:06, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I didn't mean to "splash" anything - I took your comment seriously, and wanted to provide a thoughtful answer. I disagree with you. In most cases where people followed policy and tried to identify the address, it turned out to be a shared address used by the general public. if some people do this all the time, they should not. It does not deter vandalism, it does not send an effective message. What it does do is create a user talk page when there is no identifable user. ] | ] 01:12, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| I put a warning on the person's page. The person ignored the warning and continued to create new nonsense pages. I blocked the person for the minimum amount of time, fifteen minutes, to ensure s/he would read the warning. The block has expired by now. I have no doubt that this user is generally productive but at the time s/he was making a series of unproductive edits and apparently ignoring the alert at the tope of the page saying s/he had a new message. ] | ] 01:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :I saw very clearly what you did, and I questioned it. I continue to question your interpretation of a nonsense page. <small><span style="padding:2px;border:1px solid #000000">] {{!}} ]</span></small> 01:08, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| :I am sorry, I thought you wanted an explanation. If you did not, feel free to stric=ke out or delete what I wrote. ] | ] 01:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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| ... for your civility. I realize several people are upset that I blocked a user, and I acknowledge that many thought I was wrong, but I hope people understand that I do not consider blocks punitive and assume other editors understand that they are not punitive. My intention in a 15 minute block - whether one believes I was right or not - was to preventing imminent or continuing disruption to Misplaced Pages (the creation of what I view to be unnecessary and nonsense pages), and to encouraging a rapid understanding of my reasoning, and response to my notice on the user's talk page. As you pointed out, since the upset I have not done anything other to post an additional comment on that user's talk page - a comment I hoped owuld be conciliatory - and to respond to people who have posted to my user page. | |||
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| I think there is a real need for discussion about the practice of creating new pages in order to issue warnings to IP addresses. If you have any ideas about the best venue for that, I would be happy to go along. I certainly won't take any more action until there has been community discussion. This goes against my better judgement but I am happy now to defer to the judgement of several other editors who have expressed their disagreement with me. ] | ] 02:03, 6 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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