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Hi, I would appreciate if you would not insert material which is not relevant to Mali, such as an Amazon book. Misplaced Pages is not a place to ]. Thanks. ''']''' 18:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC) Hi, I would appreciate if you would not insert material which is not relevant to Mali, such as an Amazon book. Misplaced Pages is not a place to ]. Thanks. ''']''' 18:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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Re the Wikiquette alert, there appears to be a conflict of interest issue too. I've raised it at ]. Standard advice below. ] (]) 19:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC) Re the Wikiquette alert, there appears to be a conflict of interest issue too. I've raised it at ]. Standard advice below. ] (]) 19:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


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==Re: Message from Jake Sturm==
Re your message : there's no need for hassle on either side. People here are generally very sensitive about edits that look promotional. Take a less proactive approach (as I said, follow ] guidelines - declare your interest, and let others decide the suitability) and the edits are a lot more likely to stay.

By the way: it's considered poor etiquette to mark edits as minor unless they're at a level no-one could reasonably object to (e.g. correction of obvious spelling mistakes). This certainly doesn't cover adding/removing currently disputed material. See ] for guidelines. ] (]) 04:55, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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== References to www.kirasalak.com ==

I'm replacing the links to the www.kirasalk.com with links to National Geographic everywhere since we don't usually reference content in personal webspace (it is hard to verify that the information is authentic). Note that I'm not deleting any references, even where they support historical assertions for which I think the articles are an inappropriate reference. I am, however, deleting references that point to the photo section of the kirasalak website. BTW, I think you can contribute to the website whether or not you have a COI. The key is to contribute within the parameters that we have in wikipedia and those parameters are fairly commonsensical: promotional stuff is not appreciated, references should be to reliable and independent sources, and the prose should be straightforward.

Look at it like this. When you first started posting stuff about Kira Salak, I assumed that this was just another publicity exercise (because of the large scale insertion of links to kirasalak.com) over some non-notable person, which it may or may not have been. However, now that I've read some of the stuff you've inserted, I can see that she is quite a lady and is reasonably notable (if Pico Iyer talks about her, she's gotta be notable!). Tone down the prose, don't promote the books or the website, and you'll find this a rewarding exercise. My reading of Ms. Salak is that she'll do quite well by herself without having to resort to hagiographic descriptions of her work and life. --] <small>(])</small> 17:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:I responded on my talk page. BTW, ] appears to be deleting your references. Any ideas? --] <small>(])</small> 21:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The reason why your edits are not showing up is because I'm moving them from my user page to my talk page. I.e., from ] to ]. Comments should go to talk pages rather than user pages.Like I said, the fact that the article is excerpted is no reason to delete it. I should point out that the user who is deleting your references is only doing that (i.e., has no other edits at all on wikipedia). Which is why I wondered if you know who it is. --] <small>(])</small> 22:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

:(Sorry. My edit summary should have said 'response to jake re salak'.) --] <small>(])</small> 22:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

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Your Edit to Mali

Hi, I would appreciate if you would not insert material which is not relevant to Mali, such as an Amazon book. Misplaced Pages is not a place to advertise your book. Thanks. miranda 18:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

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Bhutan

Hi. I moved your response over to the Talk:Bhutan page so that others could see it as well. Hope that's ok with you. Regards. --Regents Park (sink with my stocks) 03:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

(I also popped in a welcome message above - since no one has done it as yet. Welcome! --Regents Park (sink with my stocks) 03:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thank you for the welcome message, added latest comment to Bhutan article. Didn't notice the signature mark, will include that in the future. 

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Third opinion

Hi!

You recently added a listing to WP:Third opinion regarding a dispute you are having with another editor. This listing has been removed (not by me, though I was on my way to remove it).

I'm not convinced that that WP:3O is the best place to deal with your dispute; WP:3O is really for disputes on one article, and it sounds like your dispute spans several articles?

If you haven't already, you should try discussing the matter with the other editor on their talk page.

If you've tried that, then you could maybe try Misplaced Pages:Wikiquette alerts or Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment. You might also want to have a look at Misplaced Pages:Dispute resolution to see if there are other avenues you could try. I should stress, though, that you should make every effort to try and resolve this with the other editor first.

Good luck, and feel free to talk to me if you need advice or impartial assistance.

Cheers, This flag once was reddeeds 22:34, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your post to Wikiquette alerts

When adding references to articles, you should be citing specifically the information being referenced from the source. For books, this would include adding page numbers to the pages referenced. Also, when adding books, we don't link them to sales pages, like Amazon.com. Doing such is inappropriate advertising. Including the ISBN will allow readers to locate the book themselves. General references should be avoided. Although you may think one book is a good source of information for a given topic, others may have the same opinion about other books. It would be unreasonable to have reader's favorite books listed as "references" just because they enjoyed reading them. Additionally, linking to someone's website is not an appropriate source unless it meets the requirements of a reliable source and is being used to reference specific information. Otherwise, it is just spamming. لennavecia 17:57, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

Re the Wikiquette alert, there appears to be a conflict of interest issue too. I've raised it at WP:COIN#Kira Salak. Standard advice below. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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Re: Message from Jake Sturm

Re your message : there's no need for hassle on either side. People here are generally very sensitive about edits that look promotional. Take a less proactive approach (as I said, follow WP:COI guidelines - declare your interest, and let others decide the suitability) and the edits are a lot more likely to stay.

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References to www.kirasalak.com

I'm replacing the links to the www.kirasalk.com with links to National Geographic everywhere since we don't usually reference content in personal webspace (it is hard to verify that the information is authentic). Note that I'm not deleting any references, even where they support historical assertions for which I think the articles are an inappropriate reference. I am, however, deleting references that point to the photo section of the kirasalak website. BTW, I think you can contribute to the website whether or not you have a COI. The key is to contribute within the parameters that we have in wikipedia and those parameters are fairly commonsensical: promotional stuff is not appreciated, references should be to reliable and independent sources, and the prose should be straightforward.

Look at it like this. When you first started posting stuff about Kira Salak, I assumed that this was just another publicity exercise (because of the large scale insertion of links to kirasalak.com) over some non-notable person, which it may or may not have been. However, now that I've read some of the stuff you've inserted, I can see that she is quite a lady and is reasonably notable (if Pico Iyer talks about her, she's gotta be notable!). Tone down the prose, don't promote the books or the website, and you'll find this a rewarding exercise. My reading of Ms. Salak is that she'll do quite well by herself without having to resort to hagiographic descriptions of her work and life. --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 17:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I responded on my talk page. BTW, User:Righteouscrusader appears to be deleting your references. Any ideas? --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 21:39, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

The reason why your edits are not showing up is because I'm moving them from my user page to my talk page. I.e., from User:RegentsPark to User talk:RegentsPark. Comments should go to talk pages rather than user pages.Like I said, the fact that the article is excerpted is no reason to delete it. I should point out that the user who is deleting your references is only doing that (i.e., has no other edits at all on wikipedia). Which is why I wondered if you know who it is. --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 22:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

(Sorry. My edit summary should have said 'response to jake re salak'.) --Regents Park (bail out your boat) 22:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)