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== Wesley Warren == | |||
Thanks for your support in the AfD - I added another source which is the interview from Surface Magazine - http://www.wesleywarren.com/Surface_Article.jpg <br /> | |||
If you feel this is a viable source then perhaps you will consider your offer: | |||
:"I for one may consider changing my !vote" | |||
I would appreciate the support http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Wesley_Warren <br /> | |||
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== Lesser jihad false== | ||
That article is a complete and utter mess. My edit was a careful and earnest attempt to fix a ~90KB long monstrosity. The majority of material removed was uncited and probably biased interpretation. If you wish to be a helpful editor, please take charge of a major cleanup on that article, otherwise let the edit stand. ] (]) 00:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
I have discussed with users. they have told me that i should get references which i have. there is false information on wikiepdia. and people are making it out to be true. | |||
== i don't appreciate your action == | |||
They say our prophet said something he DID not. i am just telling people alternate views. At least help me improve it. what should i do? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 14:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
on the osama bin laden talk page you deleted all of my comments indiscriminately, and further made the accusation that my comments were "Rv and borderline trolling." one of them was to point out a typo - but you deleted that one. | |||
Please go back and undo your revert, in the case of the pointed out typo, at least. Also, it is just your own opinion that my comments were not for improving the article (in most cases). And why didn't you delete the comments that I was responding to, that are worse than mine? Do you just not like me, or what, because I don't see any other reason why you would delete mine and not others? like "michael's" who said "f you leroy osama is satan in the flesh"? please explain yourself, and again, please un-revert the typo quote, at the very least. That is representative of my intent, as it was my very first comment. And I would like it if you left the one about the History Channel's actions as well, since that is very encyclopedic as well. If you don't undo your last edit and leave, at the very least, the typo quote, I will report you. ] (]) 06:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
Same here; You seem to think the following is POV. | |||
"Their handiwork has given rise to an explosion of defense spending and many an actual war. Both factors contribute to the rise of the industrialized countries and the further disenfranchise of the third world. The occasional success of Lebanon has thus led to a structural polarization in what was supposed to become a global village after the fall of the Berlin Wall. | |||
It is believed that once in the after life, the martyr receives one thousand virgins of his liking.The whole world now suffers under these misguided believers ( some of them children under the overpowering influence of older men: a form of pedophilia ) who actively seek death to declare their Faith, instead of encountering death as an unwilled side effect ("incidental cost") of their verbal declarations of their belief and refusals to recant. This is the case of the Christian martyr. The Roman Catholic Church beatifies martyrs, but holds no beliefs as to how their live in the wold to come is, or will be. Other Christian denominations also hold such martyrs in high regard. Amongst the modern ones are those who opposed Nazism in Germany and occupied countries. However, all those who used violence in doing so are never considered martyrs. Christianity has always chosen life over death, as witness its stance against abortion and what is so wrongfully called 'euthanasia' nowadays. | |||
Thus, the Muslem shaheed must never be confused with the Christian martyr." | |||
And your editing is not POV? You clearly know very little of Christianity or modern history. Have you ever seen the film of the poor little boy that stood for hours at an IDF checkpoint? What would you call that? Please answer me and all of us! | |||
I don't mind edits, but be more specific next time, will you please? | |||
] (]) 17:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Hello, Dchall1! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be. | |||
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==Ratko Mladic== | |||
what the hell? the ratko mladic thing is a FACT why are you removing it? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 20:29, 23 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
yes i have a news source. http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/1200538922.55/ | |||
thank you a lot for embarrasing me when i was right <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 16:38, 28 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Jan 2008 == | |||
I am aware of NPOV. My edits were as such.] (]) 06:48, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
:OK. We can remove "col-blooded" and retain the rest of the facts <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:00, 26 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Well, yHupchick is a Professor in Balkanology from US. Maybe u should look him up. Any way , i'd behappy to rework some of the content. I understand its a contentious isssue, but what i have writtedn certainly is not fabricated ] (]) 07:12, 26 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== My Rfa == | |||
Well, not this time anyway it seems...] was unsuccessful, but your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!--] 07:20, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Kosovo paragraph == | |||
The paragraph isn't controversial at all and there are sources over at the ] article, but is totally unnecessary for the main article. --] (]) 19:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Invitation == | |||
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== ] == | |||
Hi there. Thanks for the note. Yes, this article was created by a banned editor and has now been deleted as well as the various accounts having been blocked. Thank you for infoming me - ] <sup>]</sup> 07:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for pointing out the article to an admin. I had reported the user last week for biased edits to Ayaan's main article (see:) and you should have seen the talk page before it was cleared of the conversations he/she had led. POV to the tenth power. Take care.--] (]) 09:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
==AfD nomination of Arbonne International== | |||
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I've re-listed the AfD you started, as you hadn't placed the AfD notice on the article page. <span style="font-family:serif;font-size:120%">''']''' ]</span> 06:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Please do not delete Ramashreya Jha == | |||
He is a very famous composer of Hindustani vocal classical music and deserves a wiki page for students of Hindustani classical music. I am working on this article and will continue to improve it over the next few days. ] (]) 06:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
I declined the speedy deletion of this article -- it is definitely not patent nonsense, as the text, although misguided and confused, is definitely comprehensible. If you'd like, go ahead and bring it to Afd. - ] 23:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== inuse tag == | |||
Hi, | |||
Please try to avoid editing articles that has this tag. I was editing and updating a newly created article (]) when apparently you removed my inuse tag and edited the article. Ignoring this tag can create lots of lost work and edit conflicts so please in the future refrain from editing articles with this tag. Thanks. --] (]) 06:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== guidelines for the naming of articles == | |||
Like too many other editors who have contributed to the current renaming debate at ], you claimed that what "reliable sources" call something is a consideration in choosing names for articles, despite the fact that it had already been pointed out that this was not the case. Please do not misrepresent wikipedia policy and guidelines in this way because it causes a lot of confusion. ] <small>]</small> 09:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
Hi Chris, I agree with your edits. ] (]) 18:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
I'm sorry to have to be so blunt about this. ] makes absolutely no reference whatsoever to "reliable sources". Now that this has been brought to your attention, if you continue to say that what "reliable sources" call something is a consideration in the naming of articles, you will be knowingly misrepresenting wikipedia policy. ] <small>]</small> 06:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Why i don't like you == | |||
You took off my page about djanssen25.com I own the website and i should be able to write about it people need to know about it i get many views so stop closing page for no reason you should be striped of you administrative abilities. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 17:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
:I agree with the user above. This administrator has no compassion for the hard work of other editors, he simply removes hours of work just like he wants, simply because "he doesn't understand why that is neceassary". If necessary I will have to collect the testimonies of users dissatisfied with this admin and forward it to the wikipedia court. Stay tuned. ] (]) 00:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Non-mystical Kaballah== | |||
Please let me know why you deleted this page. Are you contending there is no such thing as Non-mystical K------? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Dear Chris, thanks for replying on my talk page. You wrote: | |||
:I'll be honest, I tag a lot of articles for deletion and I don't remember this one in particular. I think I ran a google search and couldn't find any ] on the topic. | |||
Carlo Suarez in the author of Cabalah Trilogy and Cypher of Genesis and the only writer who writes of a non-mystical cabala. In his writing he simply writes that cabala wasn't originally mystical. He nor his school harped on the term NMK. I did to differentiate it from the "Traditional" Kabbalah. Mystical = "above the intellect." Suarez gives definitions for the Hieroglyphs in which Torah is embodied(Hebrew alphabet actually Spiritual Glyphs) and encourages us cabalists to think about them. Ask for one of the definitions. | |||
The WP Kabbalah article states that it is a "mystical" tradition. Did anyone influence you to delete this use of the term cabala that is not above the intellect? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 05:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Dear Chris, | |||
0000Carlo Suarez Published Works in French and English Library of Congress listings | |||
Sur un orgue de barbarie Librairie de France 1928 | |||
La Nouvelle Créatio Paris Edité par Au Sans Pareil 1929 | |||
Bousquet, Suares, Lamour ? Paris 1930 | |||
Krishnamurti Les Éditions Adyar 1932 | |||
La Comédie psychologique P., Chez José Corti 1932 | |||
Critique de la raison impure et les paralipomènes de la comédie psychologique: composés sous forme de dialogues avec Joé Bousquet et René Daumal Paris | |||
1935,1955 | |||
Krishnamurti and the unity of man Bombay : Chetana 1953 | |||
cuoi Israël ? (les livres de la Genèse) ? 1954? | |||
Critique de la raison impure Paris 1955 | |||
Lettre aux Juifs, aux Chetiens et aux Musulmans ? 1957 | |||
L'hyperbole chromatique ? 1957: | |||
Cahiers Internationaux de Symbolisme - 1962 | |||
La bible restituée Mont-Blanc / Sophon 1967 / 1983: | |||
Le sepher yetsira Mont-Blanc 1968 | |||
Cantique des cantiques Genève, Éditions du) Mont-Blanc 1969 | |||
The Cipher of Genesis Shambhala 1970 | |||
I Am Cain in Maitreya 2 1971 | |||
The Song of Songs Shambhala 1972 | |||
Notes on Sepher Yetsira in Tree: 2 ed. David Meltzer Summer 1972 | |||
I Am Cain II in Maitreya 3 1972 | |||
The Autiot of the Shekinah in Tree: 3 Winter 1972 | |||
Vrai mystère de la passion de Judas Paris, Éditions Caractères 1972 | |||
The Passion of Judas Shambhala 1973 | |||
The Book of Eve in Maitreya 4 1973 | |||
La Nouvelle Création Paris 1929, trans. Eduard Roditi, revised 1973 | |||
Les Abris Mensongers Paris, R. Laffont 1973 | |||
Les Spectrogrammes/Spectrograms Mont-Blanc/Fred Wolf 1973 | |||
What About "Ra"? in Tree: 4 Winter 1974 | |||
The Resurrection of the Word Shambhala 1975 | |||
Mémoire sur le retour du rabbi qu'on appelle Jésus Paris : R. Laffont 1975 | |||
Ange masqué (L'). Traité de l'intelligible et du sensible Paris 1985 | |||
The Sepher Yetsira Shambhala 1976 | |||
The Qabala Trilogy Shambhala 1985 | |||
Second Coming of Reb Yhshwh Weiser 1994 | |||
The Mind of J. Krishnamurti ed. Luis Vas (conversation w/Suares) 1997 | |||
These are books about Suarez: | |||
Ouvrages | |||
Eklectic librarie: Recherche par Auteur: carlo suares | |||
Eklectic Library: Ange masqué (L'). Traité de l'intelligible et du sensible | |||
artistesecrivainss | |||
EzoOccult - le Webzine d’Hermès v2.01 : Les Tâches Immédiates de la Pensée Révolutionnaire. | |||
Critique de la raison impure (Jean-Pierre Voyer) ref. Suares | |||
The Mind of J. Krishnamurti by Luis S R Vas | |||
Coïncidence par Carlo Suarès - Kabbale En Ligne ("L'Ange masqué") | |||
Search: suares - ARSITRA.org - Bénéficier du nécessaire. Se consacrer à l'Essentiel | |||
Tables des matières (1956-1968) | |||
A Unidade do Homem - Henry Miller | |||
Are you open to the possibility that there is a cabal to define cabala as "above the intellect" or mystical and therefore obscure revelation of the definitions of the Aleph-Tav, the little marks that embody Torah? | |||
I am not implying that you are consciously a participant in the cabal.] (]) 10:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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'''Do not make them'''. My edit summary was very clear and explanatory. ] (]) 21:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Trap Starz Clik== | |||
Regarding ], I have found that Trap Starz Clik has indeed charted on ''three'' Billboard charts. I have also added a reference from All Music Guide to the article, so you might be inclined to change your !vote. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 20:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== "Terrorism" article == | |||
Thanks for your message. I'm not able to respond properly right now, but will do so as soon as possible. | |||
Regards, | |||
] (]) 03:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
I have just attempted some further modification of the article. Whether or not you are disposed to undo this, I would appreciate your comments. | |||
Regards, | |||
IP | |||
] (]) 21:40, 21 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
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== Kosovo is Serbia == | |||
UN hasn't recognized Kosovo, only 16 stated thus far have recognized it, and Imperium Europeum changed Serbia's map by excluding Kosovo... I have undone his changes and than as you can see in "my talk" he called me Serbian Nationalist and told me that only Western Powers matter and thats why Kosovo is independante (see what he wrote by your self) and then he reported me... I'm complaining and I seek justice. --] (]) 02:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC+1) | |||
what if we can't agree on it? what then? is there someone that can decide who is right?--] (]) 02:12, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
Thanks allot Chris I really appreciate you understanding me as well as you politeness and patience... I wont start the debate cause I'm so tired of politics I don't need it here too ;) | |||
I will tho keep a watch on that article and will be patient and polite :) | |||
And that map that you mentioned will solve the "problem" IMHO.--] (]) 02:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Looks like 22 for now internationally-recognized countries and 2 not recognized recognized Kosovo so far. --] (]) 17:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Kosovo and Serbia== | |||
Hello Chris: I notice that I was reprimanded for reverting vandalism from a user trying to claim that Serbia still had authority over Kosovo. I see that you have stated on his/her discussion page that we must come to a consensus on the matter, which strikes me as a little unlikely, given the level of acrimony within the Serbian position. I know that time is on the side of rationality and reason on this matter, and that the Misplaced Pages entry will inevitably be changed in such a way to reflect the independence of Kosovo, but I'm not sure why in the meantime we—and other users, who may not be proficient in the topic at hand—should have to endure the ravings of Serbian nationalists, who seem utterly unwilling to accept the new reality. Given the fact that this is not something on which the two sides will ever be able to compromise on, what is to be done? | |||
Also, I apologise for edit warring, although I was of the belief that I was merely reverting an article to the status-quo. I think you'll find that many people before me had altered the Serbia article to include the new map (without Kosovo). Two others then continued to change it back. I would be delighted to know what Misplaced Pages policy is on these matters. Many thanks. ] (]) 13:06, 22 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== mediation == | |||
Dear Chris, | |||
on ] you cited ]. | |||
I do not believe that theories are an event. They are more close to a religion, a belief. Can I convince you to abandon this guideline , as being not applicable? — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 13:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
:''I realize that the events category does not describe this concept perfectly. However, as there is no category for beliefs or religions, I think this is the best one out there. If there's another category you think is appropriate, by all means let me know. But I'm sticking with "Events" until I see something better. // ] <sup>]•]</sup> 15:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)'' | |||
*I feel that if there is not specific sub-category applicable, we must go to the main guideline, which is ]. The theories are a phenomenon, not at all an event. — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 15:24, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
*:''if you want to do that, it seems that this is the applicable rule: ''Generally, article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature''. Are you sure you want to go there? // ] <sup>]•]</sup> 15:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)'' | |||
*::I will go whereever policy leads us! ♥<BR>We must however read the entire policy, which also states <sup>]</sup>:<BR>'' Where articles have descriptive names, the given name must be neutrally worded and must not carry POV implications.'' — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 15:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Comment on Talk:Kosovo == | |||
You deleted a comment I posted on Talk:Kosovo. ("Term PARTIALLY RECOGNIZED is factually wrong" part)If you would give me an explanation, I would be grateful. Much obliged, ] (]) 17:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Albanians == | |||
Looks like that's been done already. We need to be careful with the Kosovo article because of the contested declaration of independence. Personally, I think if there is a significant change in the proportion between the regions, an article may be warranted. ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 12:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Er . . . Twin Ponies? == | |||
I think we just made an AFD nomination of the same article at roughly the same time. -]] 05:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:It would seem so. At least it wasn't as messy as the time I couldn't figure out how to merge afds. :) -]] 05:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== I dont get it... == | |||
I am adding a page and it is a band of NOTABLE, wikipedia- sourced musicians. What did I do wrong? Why was it deleted?? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 04:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Charyn == | |||
Hi. I got your post. I really don't know how to respond. Could you please tell me what were the main specifics that caused you to pull the post? Was it tone, or mechanics? Both. I followed the link you sent, but it seems all rather imposing.... | |||
Jerome asked me to put this in for him.... | |||
Ibhope this is not too much trouble. I just don't know what you had in mind... | |||
Vielen Dank! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 20:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Arbitration == | |||
I have named you as an involved party at ]. ] (]) 22:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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''For the Arbitration Committee'', <span style="font-family:verdana">] ]</span> 19:25, 19 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Roma people== | |||
Hi. Thanks for pointing out ] at ]. However, I thought a vote was necessary because the discussion was clearly going nowhere and a small group of editors will never accept arguments against the move. They also claim to be acting on behalf of a majority, so my intention was to see if that is really the case. ] (]) 19:56, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for the reply. You might also want to keep an eye on ] because they've also tried to edit the Roma recommendation out of that. ] (]) 20:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Don't give me false warnings == | |||
what edit war , don't invent things and don't warn me without reasons.... consider this as a warning ] (]) 23:18, 23 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
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FUCK OFF KID {{unsigned|Da Mighty Doorman|23:48, 24 March 2008}} | |||
== Albanians == | |||
I did suggest to you something along the lines that, if the proportion is vastly different between regions, it may warrant a sub-region article. What I suggest is that they could both be merged, or ] can be made into a summary article about both Serbia and Kosovo. I don't know, it's a bit complicated. The gypsy thing was clear cut, though. I've opposed a move to "Gypsy" because it's more synonymous these days with Irish travellers. ''']''' <sup>(])</sup> 03:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Please send me a copy of Steven Willner Article== | |||
Please send me a copy of the Steven Willner article that was deleted because it did not conform to Misplaced Pages's policies of speedy deletion. | |||
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== article marked as a press release == | |||
Thank you for your assistance and patience as I am a new user. Please check state of article ] now. If it continues to seem like an advertisement, please refer to ] as a similar article. Your feedback would be helpful. ] (]) 15:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)Kerfl772 11:01 4 April 2008 | |||
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Could you please review the article for ]? I would appreciate your input in the discussion as to its status as an advertisement. ] (]) 19:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Dragons (band) == | |||
What is problem with my first created page ? ] ? | |||
They have an album, and yes you can find it on | |||
] (]) 15:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ICTY edit == | |||
Why did you change my edit to Ratko Mladic so the link wouldn't work, only to change back into the right form after I had corrected it? <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 00:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== ] == | |||
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. Further to this, any uninvolved administrator may, on his or her own discretion, "impose sanctions on any editor working in the area of conflict (defined as articles which relate to the events of September 11, broadly interpreted) if, despite being warned, that editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process." The full remedy is located ]. | |||
For the Arbitration Committee, ] 15:50, 8 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*Hi, Chris, when you look at the definition of vandalism, you can see that were not vandalism. You might disagree with them, and even be partially correct, but vandalism has the intention to do harm. Accusing editors wrongly of vandalising disrupts wikipedia. Warning ] In a 2008 ] administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user working on articles concerning the ]. If you engage in further inappropriate behaviour in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you.<!-- {{Uw-9/112}} --> — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 21:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::''I'm sorry, but I don't see how that revert was anything but removing vandalism. Three paragraphs of conspiracy theories dumped into the middle of the article are not helpful. If you want to take this to arbitration enforcement, be my guest. // ] <sup>]•]</sup> 22:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)'' | |||
:::It was just a warning to help you stay out of trouble... You don't even need to read the entire ], the first 4 lines suffice: | |||
::::''Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Misplaced Pages. The most common types of vandalism include the addition of obscenities or crude humor, page blanking, or the insertion of nonsense into articles.<BR>Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, '''even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism.''' '' (emph. added, -X) | |||
:::Would you confirm when you understand it now? — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 22:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
*I am referring to your Twinkle edit comment: ''Reverted 3 edits by Jhon1000 identified as vandalism to last revision by Dchall1. (TW))'' — <small>] ♫☺♥♪ ]</small> 22:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
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==Revert war at ]== | |||
You seem like a knowledgable wikipeidan. Is there anything we can do about editors like AlborzTaha and Tib72 who don't explain or even talk, but just keep ? | |||
:Thanks. In the meantime I'll try to watch them and keep rvting --] (]) 20:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== LoL == | |||
You're talking to me about vandalism? Man you're known in Serbian wikipedia as one of the biggest nazists and vandals. Anyway you wrote that "Kurac Liberation Army" fought for freedom that is worse than telling Hitler is Jesus. I removed it cuz it's a lie, fascism and POV. You put it back with no proof? Remove it! <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (]) 22:03, 9 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Meriwether (band)== | |||
You forgot to place the AfD tag on the article itself. Fixed. ] <small>and his otters</small> • <sup>(]•])</sup> 01:18, 12 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Re: fringe noticeboard == | |||
Sorry, i was on a antivandillism program and accidently reverted it.--<font face="Curlz MT" size="3"> ] </font><font face="Goudy Old Style" size="2"><sup>(]) '''\'_'/''' </sup> </font> 22:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== The Naysayer == | |||
Hi Chris. | |||
So I posted 5 albums by the artist with links to one notable label, and I still got deleted. Do I just need to do that along with a link to outside press, like allmusicguide or elsewhere? What's the secret? I've done my reading and I still can't figure out where the line is. Any help appreciated. Thanks, ] (]) 01:34, 21 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
==PMOI and Tib72 == | |||
Made a request in Tib72's talk page. I will be out of Misplaced Pages for at least two weeks starting next week in case you wonder where I went. --] (]) 18:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
: Now we got ] ???? --] (]) 00:50, 23 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
::This may be my last day of posts for quite a while. Good luck with Tib and Tom and the rest. --] (]) 15:04, 26 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Roma people of Hungary == | |||
Dear Chris, | |||
Thank you for your comments concerning http://en.wikipedia.org/Roma_people_of_Hungary | |||
I have never used Wiki’s talk feature, I hope this is the way to reflect to your post/actions. Said article is quite offending towards both Hungarian and Roma people and I think I can honestly say it is nowhere near professional or neutral. This comes from a person with no Hungarian but quite some gipsy ancestors. I tried to edit it to my best knowledge, but in fact I find it so judgmental, biased and full of misinformation that I honestly believe it should be rewritten totally from scrap. I am quite surprised that none of my ten or so edits meet Wiki’s requirements. Not even the description of the photo on the page, where anybody who lives here in this region can see it is quite false. Romas living in Hungary aren’t good enough to illustrate this article? You have to pose some Romanians as Hungarians? For what reason? It would be really sad for me to see such great initiative as Misplaced Pages turn into another tool of oppression and misinformation. If you do care for Romas, Hungarians or this region of the world, as it would seem from you profile, I strongly believe you should help decreasing hatred, misunderstanding and discrimination and not the opposite. | |||
Thank you, best regards | |||
Zoltán <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:36, 28 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Chris! | |||
You aren't Hungarian, you don't live in Hungary, so you don't know Gypsies. Gypsy mobs terrorize the Hungarian | |||
people in Budapest's streets. Police don't do anything because political correctness. ] <small>—Preceding ] was added at 22:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
Hello! Thank you for your refactoring of my Talk on Nuclear Models of 28/April. I have updated same and hope you are interested in the subject matter. Maybe you you can help me (a fellow alumnus) get the attention of whoever is in control of the subcategories of information capable of being included in this section. I dont seem to be having any luck. WFPM] (]) 20:01, 30 April 2008 (UTC) | |||
== ] == | |||
I believe you are correct, but for now I'm letting it pass with a warning. See my suggestion at ]. ] (] • ]) 04:41, 9 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Revert war at ]== | |||
I'm quite busy these days but will try to follow the dispute with Davy and assist you. --] (]) 16:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
:dispute certified --] (]) 15:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== NCRI == | |||
] suffers from the same POV issues as the main MKO page. It's been taken over by the supporters of that organization, and is far from NPOV.--] (]) 08:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
: The page still has major POV issues, it reads like a MKO pamphlet. --] (]) 08:36, 13 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== my RfA - Ta! == | |||
] (]) 01:11, 25 May 2008 (UTC) ]] | |||
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== tom Davy RFC == | |||
Just letting you know I moved it to the active list, as it has two signatures within 48 hours of creation. ] (]) 04:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Speedy deletion warnings == | |||
Please only put speedy deletion warnings on the originial authors page. Any other deletion warning (AfD or Prod) is okay to put on every authors' page.--] (]) 15:00, 7 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
{{talkback|Justpassin}} | |||
== um, what? == | |||
you just sent me a message, unfortunately i have no idea how to respond to messages on here. furthermore i have no idea what you are talking about. sorry if i mess your page up, i am new here. --] <small>—Preceding ] was added at 05:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
==AfD nomination of Victoria Manor== | |||
]I have nominated ], an article you created, for ]. I do not feel that this article satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at ]. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. <small>Do you want to ] of receiving this notice?</small><!-- Template:AFDWarning --> // ] <sup>]•]</sup> 02:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
This page is more relevant than most pages about nothing on Misplaced Pages. Their are pages about administrators which no one knows about. If an encyclopedia tells people about past events let this one be told instead of trying to delete it. This is NOT a "sand box" project or irrelevant page. Please leave this page along. Wikiedia would not be what it is if you kept deleting pages out of it. <small>—Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 02:19, 24 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Note for Chris regarding PMOI == | |||
You may know that PMOI was finally removed from the British terror list yesterday (24 June 2008) | |||
Both Houses of UK Parliament voted unanimously on Monday to lift the ban on PMOI. This followed a ruling by the Lord Chief Justice at the Court of Appeal which described as "perverse" the Home Secretary's refusal to remove the PMOI from the terrorist list. As of today, the PMOI was no longer listed in the Home Office's blacklist. | |||
They are now challenging the EU and US lists since the UK courts rejected all those allegations, originally from Tehran, against PMOI. | |||
My point to you, with all respect, is that, reading your comments and editorials in sympathy with some pro regime (or if you prefer : anti PMOI) users, you easily filed a complaint against my contributions and edits to the PMOI page. May be since I was a new user, I was not such an expert like you with Misplaced Pages, but I wander why you never seem to show any such sensitivity about the pro regime edits by people like CreazySuit, BoogaLouie,... who keep deleting my (and other) contributions ? The same goes with the pages about Rajavi. | |||
People can not be indifferent in politics; You can not keep claiming that you are neutral but in practice you were clearly taking sides by trying to keep our mouths shut. Regards, ] (]) 15:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Undoing another users edit == | |||
Hi Chris, I 'undid' an edit for an external spam link on the ] article as I thought after reading ]it was the correct thing to do followed by placing a warning on ] talk page. However, when I checked the user's talk page I noticed you had left a message stating it had been tagged for speedy deletion. Apologies for that, but so it doesn't happen again was there something I missed during the revert that should have alerted me that you had tagged it? Cheers ] (]) 01:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Estonia == | |||
Hi, Chris. There's actually a very good reason I've been more patient with Victor. That's because I believe he is sincere when he expresses his concerns about Russia's image and his desire to help improve it on Misplaced Pages. I can fault Russia's government for propagating the lie of liberating the Baltics in the Great Patriotic War, but I can't fault Victor for his being caught up in that collective memory. That said, there are other editors who I believe know better--with whom I tend to be less indulgent! —] (]) 00:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Don't== | |||
I don't know wether you lack compassion or what, but the reader needs (and most want) graphical explainations of examples, to get a serious grip and understand of the extent of inhumanity. The example is merely used for this crucial purpous. An encyclopedic article is the border between fact and literature, it must be dynamic. ] (]) 00:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I got a little overheated by the situation, but give me a couple of days to finish my section and you will notice the logics of the final result. ] (]) 08:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
I agree on the removal of the detailed section, and have now moved it to the main article (which I wasn't aware of earlier actually). Cheers ] (]) 23:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Fury of Five == | |||
Hey Dchall, I saw that you reverted edit as vandalism. I read the talk page of the article and understand the conflict over the singer's supposed academic credentials; however, this does not classify the IP's edits as vandalism. Just wanted to ask you to please be more clear with your edit summaries. Thanks. ]''']''' 17:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Hello== | |||
I'm a Serb. I probably see the world opposite as you might. I'm interested to hear what you might think about a documentary called "The preventable war". The documentary basically follows the conflicts in the former yugoslavia one by one. Here is the website (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGZNrxSsVns&feature=related), where you can find the documentary. | |||
I'm vacationing in Europe and will be coming back to Canada on August 29th. won't be able to comment much since the constant travel. Hope to hear your opinion. Also, since I'm traveling my IP address is change, so please reply on this talk page.] (]) 01:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
== Kosovo war == | |||
Chris, are you just another one of those Serbo-"Yugoslav" sympathizers? Let me tell you something, whilst you got all your information from Belgrade in the censored press of that vile man Slobodan Milosevic, I was living in England and watching the free uncontrolled press of SKY News, and BBC, and everyone here knows what the Kosovo war was about. Yeah you get a few "anti-war" sissies whose opinion is not as rational as it is on some stupid principle that "war solves nothing", if we all thought that, Hitler would have controled Germany and wiped out the Jews, Milosevic would have killed all non-Serbs and people who were Muslim (see his ethnic cleansing record in Slovenia, Croatia, Kosovo, Bosnia and Macedonia), target:non-Serb species or Muslim faith people. Aim:]. Time for you to climb out of the trees, you should have free press now in Serbia and they should have told you how the Serb militias murdered millions of Albanians and kicked them out of the country, burnt their houses and took their belongings. Source: BBC, CNN. ] <small>—Preceding ] comment was added at 15:33, 22 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> | |||
== Dchall1 is a disinfo agent == | == Dchall1 is a disinfo agent == | ||
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:Re : Yup, that's him. I see you also tagged {{User|70.240.177.54}} as him, too. Same Houston, Texas DSL line. I didn't block the second IP since it hasn't been as active. -- ] (]) 05:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | :Re : Yup, that's him. I see you also tagged {{User|70.240.177.54}} as him, too. Same Houston, Texas DSL line. I didn't block the second IP since it hasn't been as active. -- ] (]) 05:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
::Re : Sorry about not getting back to you. Something off-Misplaced Pages prompted me to be away for the past few weeks. I checked both articles and I see that another admin semi-protected both of them. -- ] (]) 03:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== WikiProject banners == | |||
Hello there! I made some edits today to an article you'd prodded, ]. I was wondering if I could convince you to, in the future, add the <nowiki>{{WikiProject Ships}}</nowiki> template to the talk pages of ship articles in these situations, if it's not there already. There are several diligent WP Ships editors (not that I'm one of them) who are great at assessing newly tagged articles, so it's an easy way to call the attention of the Project to an article which may indeed be worth saving. Thanks! --] (]) 12:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC) | |||
==More ] problems== | |||
Given your previous involvement with the ] article, I thought you might want to have a look at the comments I've just posted at ]. Your views would be appreciated. -- ] (]) 00:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Albanians in Serbia == | |||
I didn't know that it was copied just a year ago. I figured that they both started that way or it was copied from Albanians in Serbia and made into a new article. In that case I think we should shorten the section on the Albanians in Serbia article. Maybe just have a couple of paragraphs that summarize and have a See Also link to Albanians in Kosovo. --] 22:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Barnstar == | |||
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Congrats ] ] ] ] 08:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Darko Trifunovic == | |||
Thanks for the heads-up. I've replied on AN/I. I'd be interested to know what you make of it all! -- ] (]) 19:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
Things really seem to have got out of hand now (check the latest edits). I've raised the issue and presented some diffs at ] - your views would be appreciated, as you've been watching the article for a long time. -- ] (]) 00:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Darko Trifunović again == | |||
The article has been stubbed by another editor. Please see the comments (and my response) at ] - your views would be welcome. -- ] (]) 16:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Your very quick reversal of my edit == | |||
I realise that it is a very controversial topic, as explained on the talk page this is a non-proven statement which is written as a fact. How would you propose putting it? ]<sup>]</sup> 11:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:My point here is that while there has been a discussion on the talk page for a while, I have not seen any arguments against this edit. Wouldn't that count as general consensus? I'm just trying to understand why you reversed it, not trying to criticise you. ]<sup>]</sup> 11:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
::Alright then, I'll leave it at that, thanks for the explanation. ]<sup>]</sup> 12:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Chetniks == | |||
I understand your argumentation about the "Instrukcije" and won´t change it until I have sources. | |||
But regarding the collaboration, the burden of proof should be at the one who states that all chetniks were collaborators.] (]) 13:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Question about disruptive edits== | |||
Hope you have time to check this out. I'm in a ruckus with one KneeJuan. Do the edits in the post linked below look like they are violating wikirules about .... doing something you shouldn't do? | |||
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:KneeJuan&diff=289507550&oldid=288953482 | |||
If so, what can I do about it? With the exception of ] this just a dispute between him and me, so perhaps ] won't work. | |||
(P.S., Another issue may be that most of his April edits are of articles he had no history of editing but I did http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/KneeJuan ) | |||
I hope this isn't "canvassing" but I need the advise of someone more knowledgable than me. Thanks in advance if you have time to look at this. --] (]) 18:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Persoan attack == | |||
This comment about my character is considered a personal attack. Please read ] and comment on the content, not the contributor. I have a given a rational for all my edits. Just because something is "sourced", is doesn't mean it belongs on Misplaced Pages. There are various policies that deal with these issues, which I have cited here . So I would strongly advise you, to ], before jumping to conclusions and pledging to to edit-war on behalf the other editor who has a history of POV-pushing. --] (]) 00:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
: I do, however, understand how my edits may come across as more problematic than his, to someone like you who is not too familiar with the topics, just because I am "removing stuff", and he is "adding stuff". But you don't have to take my word on BoogaLouie's misuse of "sources", just take a look at what several administrators had say about his "well-sourced" article here], so that you can realize the extent of the problem for yourself. As you can see, he is a sophisticated ideological editor who takes liberty with the facts, to push a point of view by selective quotation of cherry-picked "sources". --] (]) 01:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: If you are disputing an edit of mine, please go the talk page of the relevant articles and contest the rationals I have provided in my edit summaries. Blind reverting my edits with the customary "rv removal of sourced information" is not good enough. --] (]) 03:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Your accusation == | |||
Actually, if anyone is enraged in ], it's ''you'' sine you have confessed that you are monitoring my editing history , and following me around with the explicit intention of blind-reverting my edits. Unlike you, my main interest is contemporary Iranian politics and history, which explains my involvement on these pages. In addition, my involvement on these pages hasn't been limited to reverts. Furthermore, I've given a policy-based rational for each and every one of my edits. --] (]) 03:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Reverts == | |||
Before I see any more reverts from you, KneeJuan, and BoogaLouie, I want to see some serious attempts to discuss the content that is being reverted. Please see ] to understand what I'm talking about. Users may be blocked for edit warring even without technically violating the 3RR, and I am warning all three of you before this gets out of control. Please discuss your edits as opposed to reverting. Thanks, <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">]]</span> 06:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== A Reply == | |||
Wikihounding is a difficult challenge. It is fully permissible to monitor someones contributions if they have a past history of disruptive activity, or have a high chance of performing disruption. | |||
Wikihounding would involve the intentional reversion of normally good edits in order to specifically create disenjoyment for the other party. | |||
As the one who might be hounded, it's often hard to prove Wikihounding - you end up needing a pretty clean closet of your own, because if Admins find one valid reason for someone to have reverted, it's ''de facto'' proof that the monitoring was required. | |||
If a good clear case is ready, I would post it ar ]. If you're not sure, I would ask a friendly admin (via their e-mail link) to have a glance at any diff's. (]<span style="border:1px solid black;">''' ] '''</span>]) 08:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Thanks for your help and == | |||
Sorry to have gotten you in this mess. I will try to do the talk page thing as demanded by Khoikhoi. Full disclosure: I have been blocked for edit warring by Khoikhoi twice and I am most definately not his favorite editor, which is why I'm trying to do this by the book .... trouble is, the book can be pretty convoluted. --] (]) 14:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Thanks for the ]. I doubt I would have ever found it otherwise. He's been absolved of wrong doing but it still seems misleading that he can clash with people like me under a different with those people being none the wiser about who they're dealing with. --] (]) 18:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:: Dear BoogaLouie, all my alternative accounts have been merged and routed to my main account now, I would also encourage you and Dchall1 to do the same with yours. As for my comment on Iran-Iraq war, I didn't "clash" with you, I simply made a comment, and the reason I did so with Sina is because I had already edited that page and its associated talk page with Sina, and did not wish for my alternative accounts to overlap with each other. I don't want to point fingers, but your various accounts actually did overlap on that particular page (, ), and you have used at least three accounts on Iran-Iraq war, which is certainly inappropriate. --] (]) 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::I've merged the accounts. In my defense they were sometimes used in the same article but seldom if ever in support of each other. --] (]) 19:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Macedonia article naming == | |||
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==Darko Trifunović problems again== | |||
I noticed you had recently reverted some vandalism at ]. Could you please take a look at ]? I think we need to get this issue sorted for good. -- ] (]) 23:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Checkuser has confirmed that DT is responsible for the IP vandalism. I've raised the matter at ]. -- ] (]) 07:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Invite to work on the SFK09 == | |||
Hello | |||
We are working on creating a workgroup for wikimedia kosovo | |||
http://sfk2009.ning.com/group/wikimediakosova | |||
and have an event on august 29/30 in Prishtina. | |||
We would like to invite you to come. | |||
http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/index.php/sfk09/call-for-papers.html | |||
Thanks, | |||
mike | |||
] (]) 11:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
== September 11 Attacks - further discussion == | |||
Thank you for your comment on my contribution to the September 11 Attacks article. I'm a senior lecturer at a university in the UK. I include a lecture on 9/11 as part of a philosophy course I lead to illustrate the contested and constructed nature of knowledge and truth. I am well aware of the key issues raised by 9/11, and the contested nature of 'truth' on this subject. The current article does not provide balanced coverage of key claims about 9/11. It is the lack of aware about the contested nature of events on September 11 that makes the current article weak. Most citations are from the press (these are poor quality when compared to peer-reviewed journal articles). My new contributions to the article are based on peer-reviewed journal articles and there cannot, therefore, be any justifiable reason for omitting them from the main article. | |||
The current set of changes, therefore, counter bias in the article and ensure that '''overall''' it is written from a neutral point of view. I have not removed any existing material to ensure that existing views remain (I'm not censoring others points of view, even though the press sources used are of low credibility). I've added well-documented perspectives, supported by the work of relevant academics, that challenge some of the claims currently made. This should not be censored. The only '''neutral''' course of action in these circumstances is to report the contested nature of claims on this subject. | |||
I assert strongly that there is no 'bias' in reporting that there are court cases and journal articles that question the version of truth presented in the current article. These are matters of fact, not opinion, and it distorts understanding to omit this fact from the article and give the impression that the statements are uncontested. No judgement is made on the which version of the truth is more 'true' - the edits simply make people aware that the events described are contested by credible contributions to the debate about September 11. | |||
I notice that many articles on Misplaced Pages are flagged for "bias". If there is a further attempt to reverse my contributions, I would like to flag the article for "bias" so other contributors can ensure it is more balanced. | |||
Best wishes | |||
Dr Rory Ridley-Duff, Sheffield Business School 19:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
Further comment: | |||
Thanks for the additional information and the discussion on sanctions. I was not part of the discussion on the use of the word "alleged" in this article. It is a shame because I would have argued strongly that "fact" in this case is highly contested and no article can reasonable be written from a NPOV if it takes for granted claims that are contested. Using words like 'hijackers', 'attack', 'collapse' shows a lack of awareness. I trust you appreciate that I am attempting to remove bias from the article, and I am acting in good faith. You may wish to see my talk page for previous apologies made by Misplaced Pages editors after they mistook my expertise in subject areas as 'bias' (i.e. the bias was from those with less knowledge in contested subjects). The article as it currently stands brings Misplaced Pages into disrepute because it states as fact matters that are not only contested, but are also sub-judice. | |||
All the best | |||
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Lesser jihad false
I have discussed with users. they have told me that i should get references which i have. there is false information on wikiepdia. and people are making it out to be true.
They say our prophet said something he DID not. i am just telling people alternate views. At least help me improve it. what should i do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Admit-the-truth (talk • contribs) 14:18, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Dchall1 is a disinfo agent
Stay away from the morality page.
You sir work for a diabolical pirate organization which hijacks dictionary definitions and I want you to be permanently removed from the Internet and put in prison, if the Pentagon finds out I work for them then you got a big problem coming in your direction.
The space aliens told me; "Jewish elites are WW-2 German Nazi familes." 04:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
If the morality & respect page doesn't work out
Then I see no use of wikipedia, shut it down down and send all wiki editors into unemployment. Either you support the morality & respect page I have created, or there's not going to be a wikipedia.
Put you guys technological back to 100 BC that's what you can expect.
If you want to antagonise me, then you got to continue what you are doing right now. This Internet site is not big enough for the both of us, either you go or I go. But if I go, then I'm coming back and I told you my affiliates. 05:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
About your comments
As you said I think WIKI must show neutral views and when I read the biography of Mr Rajavi I found it hostile and a little bit in favor of the iranian regime so I didn't found it fair and I tried to help the neutralitiy of this encycolpedia cause if not people will not trust WIKI any more and thanks for respecting this rule. (Mari2008wiki (talk) 09:42, 1 October 2008 (UTC))Mari
Tadic
Thanks I did my best! Hopefully the article can now live with small updates. It didn't pass the GA because the assessor didn't understand the article.--Avala (talk) 20:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
When I Grow Up (2008 film)
I was wondering if you could talk me through how I could make my artical When I Grow up more notabel if it is possable of if there is something missing - daryl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeness (talk • contribs) 20:28, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I belive I have added proper reliable notabel sources , I should hope I did anyway.
-daryl —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeness (talk • contribs) 21:03, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
I am sorry but the newspaper does not have newspaper achives or artical achives on its website since it is a city newspaper but I have tried to clear up the wrinckels as much as I could would this still be okay ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eyeness (talk • contribs) 21:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
Rees Associates
Re your message: They certainly are persistent. I salted a couple of variations. Another admin got the original one. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
Joerg Haider
I have just seen your recent revert on Dr Haider's article. I have done this revert over and over again but they just never stop. Is there a way to keep the article clean for good? --Oxygen305 (talk) 02:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
Dear Chris,
i have seen you speak very well german, I have a few minutes ago tried, to add the section" Stefan Petzner" in de german version of Haider's article. but before i even finished the second sentence , i was already removed. I don't wish to have the same problems in the german version as I had in the english version. would you please help me to write the article in a proper way, so that nobody can claim, i did some 3rr or vandalism or something like that. I would realy appreciate your help.
Please let me know, if you have time for this project. Thank you for your time.--Oxygen305 (talk) 02:06, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Chris, thank you for your fast response. can I asume that the same rules apply for de.WP and en.WP ? --Oxygen305 (talk) 02:34, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
Deletion review for Allele (band)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Allele (band). Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Mgm| 10:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Gulnora Karimova barnstar
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For your excellent work in rewriting the Gulnora Karimova article. Muchness (talk) 11:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC) |
Administrators' noticeboard
Hello, Dchall1. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at WP:AN/I#Gulnora Karimova article regarding a POV dispute and edit-warring at the Gulnora Karimova article. The discussion is about the topic Gulnora Karimova. Thank you. --Muchness (talk) 12:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Re:RFPP
I have a question regarding your request. Please respond there. Regards, لennavecia 16:18, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
sig
You forgot to sign. Thanks, I do know what you mean btw :) Gwen Gale (talk) 03:57, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Re: Pushtun soapboxer
Re your message: I blocked Redneck12 and 77.241.230.242. 91.75.74.12 last edited a couple of days ago, so I let it be for now. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:30, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: Yup, that's him. I see you also tagged 70.240.177.54 (talk · contribs) as him, too. Same Houston, Texas DSL line. I didn't block the second IP since it hasn't been as active. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:29, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- Re your message: Sorry about not getting back to you. Something off-Misplaced Pages prompted me to be away for the past few weeks. I checked both articles and I see that another admin semi-protected both of them. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 03:02, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
Advice!
Please, help.
I have MASSIVE problems with this user!
He is sockpupetting the wikipedia:
He is trying to put tag Republic of Kosovo, and a lot of unproven,
nationalist ideas of Illyrian-Albanian continuity everywhere, even if it is utterly unneeded!
Tell me, can we lock the Visoki Dečani monastery for some time? Until he quits?
Talk to me, about ANY information, i am willing to understand and talk about everything!
Hoping for any news from you!
Tadija (talk) 20:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Monastery again...
Well, i understand that Serbian province is not quite good, but if we write ~disputed province of Kosovo~, then Serbian claims can be fulfilled, without only reference Kosovo.
When you see:
1. Located in Kosovo, you write it like it is a independent state, you never write in Vojvodina, or in the Kornati, you put the name of the State, but if you write it like:
2. Located in disputed province of Kosovo, it is quite different.. Every one is happy...
I would love that it is written like that.
Your opinion?
Tadija (talk) 17:42, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject banners
Hello there! I made some edits today to an article you'd prodded, Peacemaker (ship). I was wondering if I could convince you to, in the future, add the {{WikiProject Ships}} template to the talk pages of ship articles in these situations, if it's not there already. There are several diligent WP Ships editors (not that I'm one of them) who are great at assessing newly tagged articles, so it's an easy way to call the attention of the Project to an article which may indeed be worth saving. Thanks! --Fullobeans (talk) 12:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
More Darko Trifunović problems
Given your previous involvement with the Darko Trifunović article, I thought you might want to have a look at the comments I've just posted at WP:BLPN#Persistent BLP problems on Darko Trifunović. Your views would be appreciated. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:22, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Albanians in Serbia
I didn't know that it was copied just a year ago. I figured that they both started that way or it was copied from Albanians in Serbia and made into a new article. In that case I think we should shorten the section on the Albanians in Serbia article. Maybe just have a couple of paragraphs that summarize and have a See Also link to Albanians in Kosovo. --Tocino 22:20, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
Barnstar
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I Staffwaterboy hereby award Dchall1 for the very hard work that he/she put in when making edits to Indian_Point_Energy_Center and removing non npov. Staffwaterboy 08:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
Congrats Staffwaterboy 08:58, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Darko Trifunovic
Thanks for the heads-up. I've replied on AN/I. I'd be interested to know what you make of it all! -- ChrisO (talk) 19:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Things really seem to have got out of hand now (check the latest edits). I've raised the issue and presented some diffs at WP:AN/I#Darko Trifunović blanking / vandalism - your views would be appreciated, as you've been watching the article for a long time. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Darko Trifunović again
The article has been stubbed by another editor. Please see the comments (and my response) at Talk:Darko Trifunović#Stubbed - your views would be welcome. -- ChrisO (talk) 16:33, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Your very quick reversal of my edit
I realise that it is a very controversial topic, as explained on the talk page this is a non-proven statement which is written as a fact. How would you propose putting it? Arienh4 11:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- My point here is that while there has been a discussion on the talk page for a while, I have not seen any arguments against this edit. Wouldn't that count as general consensus? I'm just trying to understand why you reversed it, not trying to criticise you. Arienh4 11:53, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Alright then, I'll leave it at that, thanks for the explanation. Arienh4 12:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
Chetniks
I understand your argumentation about the "Instrukcije" and won´t change it until I have sources. But regarding the collaboration, the burden of proof should be at the one who states that all chetniks were collaborators.Kanmaur (talk) 13:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Question about disruptive edits
Hope you have time to check this out. I'm in a ruckus with one KneeJuan. Do the edits in the post linked below look like they are violating wikirules about .... doing something you shouldn't do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:KneeJuan&diff=289507550&oldid=288953482
If so, what can I do about it? With the exception of 1953 Iranian coup d'état this just a dispute between him and me, so perhaps Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents won't work.
(P.S., Another issue may be that most of his April edits are of articles he had no history of editing but I did http://en.wikipedia.org/Special:Contributions/KneeJuan )
I hope this isn't "canvassing" but I need the advise of someone more knowledgable than me. Thanks in advance if you have time to look at this. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:01, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Persoan attack
This comment about my character is considered a personal attack. Please read WP:NPA and comment on the content, not the contributor. I have a given a rational for all my edits. Just because something is "sourced", is doesn't mean it belongs on Misplaced Pages. There are various policies that deal with these issues, which I have cited here . So I would strongly advise you, to WP:AGF, before jumping to conclusions and pledging to to edit-war on behalf the other editor who has a history of POV-pushing. --KneeJuan (talk) 00:50, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- I do, however, understand how my edits may come across as more problematic than his, to someone like you who is not too familiar with the topics, just because I am "removing stuff", and he is "adding stuff". But you don't have to take my word on BoogaLouie's misuse of "sources", just take a look at what several administrators had say about his "well-sourced" article here], so that you can realize the extent of the problem for yourself. As you can see, he is a sophisticated ideological editor who takes liberty with the facts, to push a point of view by selective quotation of cherry-picked "sources". --KneeJuan (talk) 01:49, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- If you are disputing an edit of mine, please go the talk page of the relevant articles and contest the rationals I have provided in my edit summaries. Blind reverting my edits with the customary "rv removal of sourced information" is not good enough. --KneeJuan (talk) 03:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Your accusation
Actually, if anyone is enraged in WP:HOUND, it's you sine you have confessed that you are monitoring my editing history , and following me around with the explicit intention of blind-reverting my edits. Unlike you, my main interest is contemporary Iranian politics and history, which explains my involvement on these pages. In addition, my involvement on these pages hasn't been limited to reverts. Furthermore, I've given a policy-based rational for each and every one of my edits. --KneeJuan (talk) 03:56, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Reverts
Before I see any more reverts from you, KneeJuan, and BoogaLouie, I want to see some serious attempts to discuss the content that is being reverted. Please see WP:DISPUTE to understand what I'm talking about. Users may be blocked for edit warring even without technically violating the 3RR, and I am warning all three of you before this gets out of control. Please discuss your edits as opposed to reverting. Thanks, Khoikhoi 06:07, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
A Reply
Wikihounding is a difficult challenge. It is fully permissible to monitor someones contributions if they have a past history of disruptive activity, or have a high chance of performing disruption.
Wikihounding would involve the intentional reversion of normally good edits in order to specifically create disenjoyment for the other party.
As the one who might be hounded, it's often hard to prove Wikihounding - you end up needing a pretty clean closet of your own, because if Admins find one valid reason for someone to have reverted, it's de facto proof that the monitoring was required.
If a good clear case is ready, I would post it ar WP:ANI. If you're not sure, I would ask a friendly admin (via their e-mail link) to have a glance at any diff's. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 08:35, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your help and
Sorry to have gotten you in this mess. I will try to do the talk page thing as demanded by Khoikhoi. Full disclosure: I have been blocked for edit warring by Khoikhoi twice and I am most definately not his favorite editor, which is why I'm trying to do this by the book .... trouble is, the book can be pretty convoluted. --BoogaLouie (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up. I doubt I would have ever found it otherwise. He's been absolved of wrong doing but it still seems misleading that he can clash with people like me under a different name with those people being none the wiser about who they're dealing with. --BoogaLouie (talk) 18:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Dear BoogaLouie, all my alternative accounts have been merged and routed to my main account now, I would also encourage you and Dchall1 to do the same with yours. As for my comment on Iran-Iraq war, I didn't "clash" with you, I simply made a comment, and the reason I did so with Sina is because I had already edited that page and its associated talk page with Sina, and did not wish for my alternative accounts to overlap with each other. I don't want to point fingers, but your various accounts actually did overlap on that particular page (, ), and you have used at least three accounts on Iran-Iraq war, which is certainly inappropriate. --Kurdo777 (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- I've merged the accounts. In my defense they were sometimes used in the same article but seldom if ever in support of each other. --BoogaLouie (talk) 19:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
- Dear BoogaLouie, all my alternative accounts have been merged and routed to my main account now, I would also encourage you and Dchall1 to do the same with yours. As for my comment on Iran-Iraq war, I didn't "clash" with you, I simply made a comment, and the reason I did so with Sina is because I had already edited that page and its associated talk page with Sina, and did not wish for my alternative accounts to overlap with each other. I don't want to point fingers, but your various accounts actually did overlap on that particular page (, ), and you have used at least three accounts on Iran-Iraq war, which is certainly inappropriate. --Kurdo777 (talk) 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Macedonia article naming
Since you have in the past taken part in related discussions, this comes as a notification that the Centralized discussion page set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about Macedonia-related naming practices is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
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Darko Trifunović problems again
I noticed you had recently reverted some vandalism at Darko Trifunović. Could you please take a look at WP:AN/I#Darko Trifunović? I think we need to get this issue sorted for good. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
- Checkuser has confirmed that DT is responsible for the IP vandalism. I've raised the matter at WP:AE#Darko Trifunovic. -- ChrisO (talk) 07:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Invite to work on the SFK09
Hello We are working on creating a workgroup for wikimedia kosovo http://sfk2009.ning.com/group/wikimediakosova and have an event on august 29/30 in Prishtina. We would like to invite you to come. http://www.kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/index.php/sfk09/call-for-papers.html
Thanks,
mike Mdupont (talk) 11:22, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
September 11 Attacks - further discussion
Thank you for your comment on my contribution to the September 11 Attacks article. I'm a senior lecturer at a university in the UK. I include a lecture on 9/11 as part of a philosophy course I lead to illustrate the contested and constructed nature of knowledge and truth. I am well aware of the key issues raised by 9/11, and the contested nature of 'truth' on this subject. The current article does not provide balanced coverage of key claims about 9/11. It is the lack of aware about the contested nature of events on September 11 that makes the current article weak. Most citations are from the press (these are poor quality when compared to peer-reviewed journal articles). My new contributions to the article are based on peer-reviewed journal articles and there cannot, therefore, be any justifiable reason for omitting them from the main article.
The current set of changes, therefore, counter bias in the article and ensure that overall it is written from a neutral point of view. I have not removed any existing material to ensure that existing views remain (I'm not censoring others points of view, even though the press sources used are of low credibility). I've added well-documented perspectives, supported by the work of relevant academics, that challenge some of the claims currently made. This should not be censored. The only neutral course of action in these circumstances is to report the contested nature of claims on this subject.
I assert strongly that there is no 'bias' in reporting that there are court cases and journal articles that question the version of truth presented in the current article. These are matters of fact, not opinion, and it distorts understanding to omit this fact from the article and give the impression that the statements are uncontested. No judgement is made on the which version of the truth is more 'true' - the edits simply make people aware that the events described are contested by credible contributions to the debate about September 11.
I notice that many articles on Misplaced Pages are flagged for "bias". If there is a further attempt to reverse my contributions, I would like to flag the article for "bias" so other contributors can ensure it is more balanced.
Best wishes Dr Rory Ridley-Duff, Sheffield Business School 19:07, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
Further comment:
Thanks for the additional information and the discussion on sanctions. I was not part of the discussion on the use of the word "alleged" in this article. It is a shame because I would have argued strongly that "fact" in this case is highly contested and no article can reasonable be written from a NPOV if it takes for granted claims that are contested. Using words like 'hijackers', 'attack', 'collapse' shows a lack of awareness. I trust you appreciate that I am attempting to remove bias from the article, and I am acting in good faith. You may wish to see my talk page for previous apologies made by Misplaced Pages editors after they mistook my expertise in subject areas as 'bias' (i.e. the bias was from those with less knowledge in contested subjects). The article as it currently stands brings Misplaced Pages into disrepute because it states as fact matters that are not only contested, but are also sub-judice.
All the best Dr Rory Ridley-Duff, Sheffield Business School 19:58, 21 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roryridleyduff (talk • contribs)
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Clarification motion
A case (September 11 conspiracy theories) in which you were involved has been modified by motion which changed the wording of the discretionary sanctions section to clarify that the scope applies to pages, not just articles. For the arbitration committee --S Philbrick(Talk) 19:19, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
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