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While we wait for your unblock request to be reviewed, I don't suppose you could explain (mainly for the unblocking admin's benefit) for the rationale of ? ] ] ] 20:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
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*I will leave this for another admin to review, but I don't feel like we can take you at your word. It was nearly a year ago that you said Clearly, that was not the case. You have already had your second chance, your third chance... and so on. You want a ''ninth'' chance to prove you can exercise some self control? Do you really think it is realistic to expect that? I would suggest you consider the ] only maybe make it more like a year instead of six months. Maybe in that length of time you will learn to let go of this grudge and participate here in a way that is beneficial rather than disruptive. ] (]) 21:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
::I don't need any chances with an interaction ban. As soon as I violated it he would report me. I guess a year is not a long time in WikiTime but I think I did show a lot of self control. It took a year to get here again lol ] (]) 22:50, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
:::One way interaction bans are rarely if ever workable, and constraining another editor to avoid you would be placing an unfair restriction on their editing because of ''your'' behaviour. As such, an indefinite block (and, given , I think we can take out the "de") is the most equitable solution for Misplaced Pages. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 22:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
::::It's not just my behavior, he's just much better at wikilawyering and I'm very bad at it. If I was as well versed in digging up old stuff and citing various policies, he would have been blocked a long time ago. ] (]) 23:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
And just lost you the ability to edit this talkpage. ]&nbsp;]&zwj;] 23:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


:Yep, that pretty clearly indicated that there is no reason to continue to discuss this with you. I would repeat my suggestion to take an extended break, then try appealing to ] ] (]) 00:48, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
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Noting for the record that Degen has engaged in more tag edit-warring here while already blocked. Have blocked the IP and tried to express to him what a bad idea that was. ] (]) 19:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
Some of your comments made me think you may have misread things. There's no manhunt going on for Van der Sloot, and there's not a good chance he will ever be arrested for the murder of Natalee Holloway. DeVries really screwed everything up with the confession tapes, and, even if the tapes are 100% true, the contents aren't acceptable in court. This thing with the Thai prostitution ring is separate. If it continues to get press, I'll push for building a separate article.&mdash;](]) 12:15, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
== Blocked for sockpuppetry ==

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== Proper language ==

You, sir, are clearly a gentleman: . --]<sup><small>]</small></sup> 18:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

==Some policies to check out==
You seem to have gotten mad at me, and thus went and attacked many articles because you are unfamiliar with wiki policies. You should read up on them. First, it is allowed to cite yourself or a website you own under reasonable circumstances, ] and ], but when most of your edits are just citing theplayr.com, that goes into ] single purpose account territory. Additionally, there is no way theplayr.com is the ''best'' source for something like a European Poker Tour result, the official site or another owned by the company promoting the EPT is better for that. Third, some of theplayr.com articles are anonymous. That is obviously not as good as articles that are signed, and of course articles signed by experts are even better. ] and ] explain that the more contentious something is, the stonger source that is needed, especially for a living person ]. No fourth party source for ten million dollars worth of losses is going to cut it, short of the new York Times or something like that. So please take a deep breath and contribute to the Misplaced Pages articles in good faith, and when your website can reliably source something that isn't extremely controversial, go ahead and add it, but if someone comes along and replaces it with MSNBC or new York Times reference, don't get all bent out of shape at them. (Also, David Williams is a Magic the gathering player too, which is why his article is (card player) and not (poker player). ] (]) 00:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

:The link on the Tom Dwan article for example seems fine because it is not overly controversial. The online poker one is also okay. It would be better though if those articles were signed, and if the CNN or the Wall Street Journal reported hte same thing, it would be reasonable to change the references to those. So if you just keep any references to articles, especially signed ones, that are factual (not opinion), then you should be fine. ] (]) 01:09, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== Poker Babes ==

Before this turns into an edit war, I'm asking you, 2005, and the others involved to start discussing the Poker Babes bio's ]. This is getting ridiculous.---''']''' '']''<small>]</small> 01:14, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

== 1 hour block ==

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:I do not see the reason for removing this link, which I included as part of my original version the ] article. Please do not remove this again without consensus. I support the block. - ] <small>(])</small> 03:19, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:43, 4 January 2023

Block reinstated

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for harassing other users and violating your unblock conditions . If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  — madman 01:57, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

DegenFarang (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

As discussed at the ANI, an interaction ban accomplishes the same thing. 99% of my problems on Misplaced Pages and nearly all of my blocks are from interacting with one other editor. If we were banned from interacting, this problem would go away, and Misplaced Pages would retain a valuable editor.

Decline reason:

I have spent some long time reading through the ANI thread and your and 2005's edits. Having done so I do not believe that you will, if unblocked, be a net positive influence here.--Anthony Bradbury 21:06, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


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While we wait for your unblock request to be reviewed, I don't suppose you could explain (mainly for the unblocking admin's benefit) for the rationale of this revert? Ritchie333 20:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

I was blanking the page DegenFarang (talk) 21:27, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Seeking second opinion. You can read my reason for requesting the unblock above.

Decline reason:

Procedural. Anthony's decline above is a second opinion. You don't get to shop around until you find an admin who'll give you the response you want. Either file a better unblock request, or expect to lose your talkpage access. Yunshui  22:35, 21 February 2013 (UTC)


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I don't need any chances with an interaction ban. As soon as I violated it he would report me. I guess a year is not a long time in WikiTime but I think I did show a lot of self control. It took a year to get here again lol DegenFarang (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
One way interaction bans are rarely if ever workable, and constraining another editor to avoid you would be placing an unfair restriction on their editing because of your behaviour. As such, an indefinite block (and, given this, I think we can take out the "de") is the most equitable solution for Misplaced Pages. Yunshui  22:55, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
It's not just my behavior, he's just much better at wikilawyering and I'm very bad at it. If I was as well versed in digging up old stuff and citing various policies, he would have been blocked a long time ago. DegenFarang (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

And that just lost you the ability to edit this talkpage. Yunshui  23:39, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Yep, that pretty clearly indicated that there is no reason to continue to discuss this with you. I would repeat my suggestion to take an extended break, then try appealing to WP:BASC Beeblebrox (talk) 00:48, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

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Noting for the record that Degen has engaged in more tag edit-warring here while already blocked. Have blocked the IP and tried to express to him what a bad idea that was. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:36, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Blocked for sockpuppetry

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